How doctors can help fix the broken US asylum system
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0:01 - 0:04Several years ago a young man
came to see me in my clinic. -
0:06 - 0:08He told me he was running for his life.
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0:09 - 0:11He said that he fled his home,
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0:12 - 0:14because there, homosexuality
wasn't just illegal, -
0:14 - 0:16in some cases it was punishable by death.
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0:18 - 0:21So when his sexual
orientation was exposed, -
0:21 - 0:23his family rejected him,
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0:23 - 0:25his boss fired him
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0:25 - 0:28and angry mobs repeatedly
attacked him in the streets. -
0:30 - 0:34And each time the police
arrived only to arrest him, -
0:34 - 0:36detain and torture him further.
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0:37 - 0:41And he knew that if he couldn't
escape the cycle of violence, -
0:41 - 0:42he would surely be killed.
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0:43 - 0:46So he had to do
what he needed to do to survive. -
0:46 - 0:48He left everything behind.
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0:48 - 0:51All of his friends,
his family, his career. -
0:52 - 0:53He fled his home,
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0:53 - 0:56he escaped to the United States
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0:56 - 0:58and here he applied for asylum.
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0:59 - 1:02But like many people
fleeing this kind of persecution, -
1:02 - 1:03he couldn't carry much.
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1:03 - 1:05He had some basic ID,
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1:05 - 1:07barely any money
and a few other belongings. -
1:08 - 1:10He certainly didn't bring
official documents -
1:10 - 1:12from the police who tortured him.
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1:12 - 1:15No videos from the mob
that tried to kill him. -
1:15 - 1:18He didn't have this kind of evidence
to help support his claims, -
1:20 - 1:23yet here he was, sitting in my clinic,
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1:23 - 1:26showing me some of the most powerful
evidence of his persecution. -
1:28 - 1:31That was the physical and psychological
scars that he brought with him. -
1:33 - 1:35You see, he suffered
from chronic, debilitating pain. -
1:37 - 1:39He had severe scars
scattered over his body, -
1:39 - 1:42poorly healing wounds
that got infected over and over again. -
1:44 - 1:46He suffered from severe depression
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1:46 - 1:50and continued to have regular, paralyzing
flashbacks and nightmares from PTSD. -
1:53 - 1:54So we continued our work.
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1:54 - 1:56We met regularly for months,
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1:56 - 1:59documenting each of these pieces
of medical evidence. -
2:00 - 2:03We went over the details of every attack,
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2:03 - 2:04photographed his scars,
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2:04 - 2:06documented his injuries and wounds,
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2:06 - 2:11and we were even able to start
chronicling his slow but steady recovery -
2:11 - 2:12while under our care.
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2:14 - 2:16Working closely with his lawyers,
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2:16 - 2:18I submitted a detailed affidavit,
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2:18 - 2:22including the findings
of this forensic medical evaluation, -
2:22 - 2:25and we included it as part
of his asylum application. -
2:25 - 2:27And then we waited
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2:27 - 2:30for several long years
while he navigated the courts. -
2:31 - 2:33And then one day I got an email from him.
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2:35 - 2:37It said that he was granted asylum.
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2:38 - 2:41And everyone in the clinic was overjoyed.
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2:41 - 2:45He said in his email
that this was the first time in years -
2:45 - 2:49that he didn't fear deportation and death.
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2:49 - 2:52It was the first time in years
that he truly felt safe, -
2:52 - 2:55that he had the security
to rebuild his life all over again. -
2:57 - 3:00And it was only through this medical
and legal advocacy -
3:00 - 3:03that we were able to help restore
his legal status and his rights, -
3:03 - 3:05that he could do that,
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3:05 - 3:06all through asylum.
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3:08 - 3:10Now for many people fleeing persecution,
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3:10 - 3:12they come to programs
and clinics like this -
3:12 - 3:14telling unimaginable tales of violence
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3:14 - 3:16and different reasons
they were persecuted. -
3:16 - 3:18But one thing is always the same.
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3:19 - 3:21The violence meted against them
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3:21 - 3:24was done with complete impunity,
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3:25 - 3:28sometimes by the hands of the state
directly through police -
3:28 - 3:30or military officials.
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3:30 - 3:33In other cases,
the state just turns a blind eye -
3:33 - 3:36and condones the acts
of paramilitary groups -
3:36 - 3:38or even violent domestic partners.
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3:39 - 3:42In other cases,
state is completely powerless -
3:42 - 3:44to protect the vulnerable
from powerful gangs. -
3:46 - 3:49Now we know that social determinants
of health play a huge role -
3:49 - 3:52in determining the health
and well-being of our patients: -
3:52 - 3:55housing, income, education, race,
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3:55 - 3:56social inclusion.
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3:57 - 4:01But the same can be true
for equal protection in the law -- -
4:01 - 4:03due process.
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4:03 - 4:06Especially in societies
for the most vulnerable, -
4:06 - 4:07the marginalized
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4:07 - 4:10and even those who are actively targeted,
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4:10 - 4:12their access to these
human rights protections -
4:12 - 4:16that can mean the difference
between sickness and health, -
4:16 - 4:19and often it's the difference
between life and death. -
4:21 - 4:25And for millions of people
who endure persecution and torture, -
4:25 - 4:27the only way to heal
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4:27 - 4:31is to acknowledge the human rights
abuses that have occurred -
4:31 - 4:35and to help restore the rights
and protections that were so violated. -
4:37 - 4:39After the atrocities of World War II,
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4:39 - 4:43the asylum system was set up
as one pathway to that kind of relief. -
4:43 - 4:47But these days it seems like that pathway
has turned into an obstacle course, -
4:47 - 4:48setting people up to fail.
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4:50 - 4:52Asylum seekers oftentimes
don't know how to start, -
4:52 - 4:55let alone complete the process
that can drag on for years. -
4:55 - 4:59They're not entitled to lawyers,
so they don't know their rights. -
4:59 - 5:01Increasingly, they're even being barred
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5:01 - 5:04from setting foot
in places of potential refuge. -
5:05 - 5:07They're arrested or prosecuted,
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5:07 - 5:10even deported before they ever
get to see an asylum officer. -
5:11 - 5:13And even if they do
make it through the process, -
5:14 - 5:17asylum grant rates
can be as low as 20 percent -
5:17 - 5:19and far worse for some.
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5:19 - 5:22It's almost like the system was designed
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5:22 - 5:24to keep people
from exercising their right. -
5:27 - 5:30But there is something
that many of these people can do. -
5:30 - 5:34Something that can potentially
increase their chances of success -
5:34 - 5:36to 90 percent or more.
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5:36 - 5:38So what makes the difference?
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5:38 - 5:42Getting a lawyer
and having a medical evaluation. -
5:42 - 5:44It's as simple as that.
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5:45 - 5:48The man who came to my clinic
and won his asylum case. -
5:48 - 5:52Doctors and lawyers working together
to present all of the evidence, -
5:52 - 5:53including the medical evidence,
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5:53 - 5:55to the courts
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5:55 - 5:58allows judges to make
informed and just decisions. -
5:59 - 6:02And it's this kind
of medical-legal partnership -
6:02 - 6:04that's now more important than ever,
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6:04 - 6:07because we live in a time
of epic, forced migration -
6:07 - 6:09due to violence and conflict.
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6:10 - 6:15In 2018 there were 70 million
people worldwide forcibly displaced -
6:15 - 6:18due to war, conflict and persecution.
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6:18 - 6:20It includes 40 million
internally displaced, -
6:20 - 6:2325 million refugees
and three million asylum seekers. -
6:24 - 6:28Here in the United States,
we see the impact of escalating violence -
6:28 - 6:30in places like El Salvador,
Guatemala and Honduras, -
6:30 - 6:34where murder rates can be as high
as those in Syria and Afghanistan. -
6:36 - 6:40Where police corruption
and gang violence are on the rise, -
6:40 - 6:44where poverty and child abuse
are widespread and tolerated, -
6:44 - 6:46where basic systems of governance --
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6:46 - 6:48public safety,
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6:48 - 6:49child protection --
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6:49 - 6:51are ineffective.
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6:52 - 6:55It's no surprise then that many
of the most vulnerable -
6:55 - 6:56in some of these societies --
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6:56 - 7:00children, women
and other targeted groups -- -
7:00 - 7:02they're growing increasingly desperate
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7:02 - 7:04and fleeing in unprecedented numbers.
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7:05 - 7:07Like over the past 10 years,
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7:07 - 7:08the numbers of unaccompanied children
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7:10 - 7:12trying to seek safety
at our southwest border -
7:12 - 7:14has increased 18-fold,
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7:14 - 7:18from 3,300 in 2009
to over 62,000 this past year. -
7:20 - 7:24That's in addition to nearly half
a million people traveling as families. -
7:25 - 7:29Men, women and children
trying to seek refuge at our borders, -
7:29 - 7:32but who are stranded
in a humanitarian crisis. -
7:33 - 7:35And what makes matters worse
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7:35 - 7:38is that they're caught in this fog
of claims and counterclaims -
7:38 - 7:40about who they are,
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7:40 - 7:41what they've experienced,
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7:41 - 7:43where the proof is
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7:43 - 7:44and what they deserve.
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7:44 - 7:46Do they deserve our help?
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7:48 - 7:49Sometimes people make claims
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7:49 - 7:52that they're not fleeing
human rights abuses -
7:52 - 7:53but are simply economic migrants.
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7:53 - 7:56Others say these children
are actually being exploited -
7:56 - 7:57and trafficked by their parents.
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7:58 - 8:00Others say they're
not even children at all; -
8:00 - 8:02they're hardened criminals,
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8:02 - 8:04they're gang members
trying to infiltrate our country. -
8:05 - 8:07To cut through some of this fog,
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8:07 - 8:09my colleagues and I conducted a study.
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8:09 - 8:13We looked at data
from children seeking asylum -
8:13 - 8:14who had medical evaluations.
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8:16 - 8:18And this is what the evidence told us.
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8:20 - 8:2280 percent of these children had evidence
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8:22 - 8:25of exposure to repeated physical violence:
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8:25 - 8:26assault and torture.
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8:27 - 8:3060 percent of the girls
and at least 10 percent of the boys -
8:30 - 8:34had evidence of repeated
exposure to sexual violence. -
8:34 - 8:36One young girl, telling a story
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8:36 - 8:37and having corroborating evidence
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8:38 - 8:41of being detained, beaten and raped
over the course of three years, -
8:41 - 8:43trafficked to other men
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8:43 - 8:46and even having the threats
of the murder of her entire family -
8:46 - 8:49if she should ever escape
or try to seek help. -
8:51 - 8:5590 percent of these children
had evidence of psychological harm -
8:55 - 8:56from indirect violence,
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8:56 - 8:58including such severe threats,
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8:58 - 9:02but also witnessing untold
atrocities with their very eyes. -
9:04 - 9:10One young boy described
the terror and the grief -
9:11 - 9:12and the utter fear
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9:12 - 9:16of seeing the mutilated bodies
and faces of his younger brother, -
9:16 - 9:17his aunt,
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9:17 - 9:20his uncle, his cousin,
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9:20 - 9:25all killed in a single gang attack
meant to send the community a message. -
9:28 - 9:31And of course the psychological
toll is immense. -
9:31 - 9:3519 percent of these children
had signs of anxiety disorder; -
9:35 - 9:3741 percent, depression
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9:37 - 9:39and 64 percent, PTSD.
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9:40 - 9:4421 percent also had signs
of suicidality as children. -
9:46 - 9:49To put this into some perspective,
returning combat veterans, -
9:49 - 9:51they have PTSD on the order
of 10 to 20 percent. -
9:52 - 9:55These children at three to six times
more likely to have PTSD -
9:55 - 9:58than a soldier returning from war.
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10:01 - 10:05Now despite this burden
and despite this trauma, -
10:05 - 10:07there are many others, still.
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10:07 - 10:11Children who come to seek safety
and enter into our immigration system -
10:11 - 10:12only to find further abuse
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10:12 - 10:15and even torture reminiscent
of the places that they fled. -
10:17 - 10:19You might remember
some of those headlines, -
10:19 - 10:21some of those images this past year.
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10:22 - 10:25Children being ripped
from the arms of their parents. -
10:25 - 10:29Toddlers, infants
in cold and unsanitary cages. -
10:29 - 10:32The absence of food, water
clothing and even soap. -
10:34 - 10:37There's also increasing reports
of medical negligence, -
10:37 - 10:39preventable complications,
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10:39 - 10:40child abuse,
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10:40 - 10:42sexual abuse
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10:42 - 10:45and even child deaths in US custody.
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10:47 - 10:50Sadly, many of these abuses
and crimes aren't new. -
10:50 - 10:53Some date back many years
and even across administrations. -
10:53 - 10:54But something's changed.
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10:55 - 10:58The scope and scale
of these abuses and crimes, -
11:00 - 11:05the systematic and seemingly purposeful
endangerment of asylum seekers -
11:05 - 11:08and also the impunity
with which it's being done -
11:08 - 11:11has raised the harm
to an entirely new level. -
11:14 - 11:16It reminds me of one
of the girls in the study -
11:17 - 11:20who told us how she pleaded
with one of her attackers, -
11:20 - 11:21asking him to stop,
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11:21 - 11:23asking why she was targeted.
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11:24 - 11:26And do you what his response was?
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11:27 - 11:31He says, "We can do this, because
there's no one here to protect you." -
11:36 - 11:38We can't let this be true
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11:38 - 11:41of children and other asylum seekers
trying to find help at our borders. -
11:43 - 11:44But what do we do?
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11:46 - 11:47As a physician,
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11:47 - 11:49I'm often dealing with difficult decisions
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11:49 - 11:53with some of my sickest
and most complex patients. -
11:53 - 11:55Of course we want to keep
our focus on their health, -
11:55 - 11:57their well-being, their quality of life,
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11:57 - 12:00but sometimes it requires
a deeper exploration of their values -
12:02 - 12:04to really understand how to move forward.
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12:05 - 12:06In a similar way,
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12:06 - 12:09our nation is facing a crisis
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12:09 - 12:11with the increasing number
of asylum seekers at our borders -
12:11 - 12:13and in our communities,
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12:13 - 12:17and it compels us to re-examine
some of our own fundamental values. -
12:18 - 12:22What does it mean
when we value health and safety? -
12:22 - 12:24What does it mean when we value security,
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12:26 - 12:28life, liberty,
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12:28 - 12:30the life of children?
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12:30 - 12:31What about this one --
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12:31 - 12:34what does it mean when we say
we value law and order? -
12:35 - 12:38Does that also include respecting
due process rights for an asylum seeker? -
12:40 - 12:42Now for some, when they hear these terms
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12:42 - 12:45they immediately gravitate
towards wanting to build more walls, -
12:45 - 12:46deploying more border patrol,
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12:46 - 12:48deporting more people
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12:48 - 12:51even if it means separating
children from their families, -
12:51 - 12:53subjecting them to psychological torture
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12:54 - 12:56or deporting them to places
where they might die. -
12:57 - 13:00All in the name of security.
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13:00 - 13:01All in our name.
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13:02 - 13:03But for me and for many others,
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13:05 - 13:06when I think of these values,
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13:06 - 13:09that pushes me
in an entirely new direction -
13:09 - 13:13and renews my commitment to try
to meet the needs of these asylum seekers -
13:13 - 13:16with every tool I have at my disposal.
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13:16 - 13:19So that when we say
that we value life and liberty, -
13:19 - 13:22we'll see these people
who have taken unimaginable risks -
13:22 - 13:25to flee imminent danger and harm
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13:25 - 13:26to try to find safety.
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13:26 - 13:28We'll meet them where they are
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13:28 - 13:31and provide food, water,
shelter, clothing. -
13:31 - 13:33And we'll certainly
meet them with medical care -
13:33 - 13:35and mental health care
that they so desperately need. -
13:36 - 13:38When we say that we value the rule of law,
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13:38 - 13:42and not just the privileges
it provides a few -
13:42 - 13:45but the responsibilities
it requires of all of us, -
13:45 - 13:48we'll make sure that we have
a functioning immigration system. -
13:48 - 13:50We'll make sure that we have
trained judges. -
13:50 - 13:54We'll make sure that we're not
settling for the illusion of law and order -
13:54 - 13:58that maybe a tall wall
or a militarized border might provide us. -
13:58 - 14:00We want the real thing.
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14:00 - 14:03We want judges to be able
to evaluate the evidence, -
14:03 - 14:04including the medical evidence,
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14:04 - 14:07and we want them to administer justice ...
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14:07 - 14:09fairly.
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14:11 - 14:13When we say that we value
health and well-being, -
14:13 - 14:15that we don't want to perpetuate harm,
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14:17 - 14:20then we'll deploy
trauma-informed strategies -
14:20 - 14:22at all levels of the immigration system.
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14:22 - 14:24It might start with retraining
border patrol agents -
14:24 - 14:26or immigration officials,
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14:26 - 14:30but it needs more medical,
mental health and child welfare experts -
14:30 - 14:31across the whole system.
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14:34 - 14:37And when we say that we value justice,
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14:39 - 14:42we won't let ourselves
be turned into the torturers -
14:42 - 14:46that many of these children
and other people fled. -
14:46 - 14:48We'll open up our detention
centers and our courts -
14:48 - 14:50to experts and advocates
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14:50 - 14:52to hold ourselves accountable.
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14:52 - 14:56And we may find that we need
to shut down most of them -
14:56 - 14:57and close these camps.
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15:02 - 15:04I believe that by working
in effective partnerships -
15:04 - 15:07with lawyers, doctors,
human rights advocates -
15:07 - 15:08and many others,
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15:08 - 15:11that we can work together
to meet these asylum seekers' needs, -
15:11 - 15:13that we can meet our historical,
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15:13 - 15:15humanitarian
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15:15 - 15:17and legal obligations to them.
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15:17 - 15:19And when we do,
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15:19 - 15:21I think something powerful will unfold.
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15:21 - 15:23Not only will these asylum seekers --
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15:23 - 15:26like the man who came to my clinic
and won his asylum case, -
15:26 - 15:27like the children in the study
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15:27 - 15:31or the many thousands of others
seeking a new life, -
15:31 - 15:34they'll be able to find
that safety and security. -
15:34 - 15:36We'll recognize the abuses
that have occurred, -
15:36 - 15:39and we'll restore the rights
and protections that were lost. -
15:40 - 15:43And I think that we'll be in wonder
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15:43 - 15:45when we see them in the fullness
of their humanity. -
15:46 - 15:49Not just their strengths and weaknesses,
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15:49 - 15:50their hopes and joys,
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15:50 - 15:53not just the trauma that we acknowledge,
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15:53 - 15:55but we'll also stand with them
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15:55 - 15:58and we'll be inspired by their resilience.
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15:58 - 15:59They'll blossom,
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15:59 - 16:02and they'll add
to the richness of this nation. -
16:03 - 16:05I think by staying true
to our fundamental values -
16:05 - 16:07in the way that I've described,
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16:07 - 16:11that's how we build a sane
and humane immigration system. -
16:11 - 16:15That's how we remain the golden door.
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16:15 - 16:16And that's how it happens
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16:16 - 16:19that we remain the shining
light of the world. -
16:20 - 16:21Thank you.
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16:21 - 16:23(Applause)
- Title:
- How doctors can help fix the broken US asylum system
- Speaker:
- Joseph Shin
- Description:
-
Refugees fleeing persecution endure unimaginable hardships in search of a better life. Physician Joseph Shin explains the essential collaboration of doctors and lawyers working together to help asylum seekers in the United States, sharing promising pathways toward securing the human dignities they deserve.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 16:37
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