Projecto Venus (1996) (Brazilian)

Marces Birro Calisto presents the Venus Project on Caval 25. Aug. 26, 1996

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... charging, and the phone there is 201 5583.

Calling there is only talk to Geraldo or Estéfano.

Now, we're going to work.

Given the recadinhos, I'll have a chat here with Marcos Birro Calixto now.

He is representative of the Venus Project.

Marcos, good morning. Good morning. Thank you for being here.

I want you to explain to me, and explain to people at home,

what is this Venus Project.

Is the Venus Project, is when Adriana asked me to talk about the inversion of values,

I found it interesting, I was very pleased because I,

is a way I can put here, the meaning of the Venus Project,

that is proposing, exactly, the change in values.

Is the Venus Project, he proposes a total reconstruction of civilization.

In all directions in all figures.

From what, how, let's see here, as it emerged that?

What, where this idea came from?

Okay. The idea is as follows. Yeah, I'm going to spend, do a quick history here.

Yeah, there are 500 thousand years before Christ came a, civilizations began to emerge.

This step was, is, what we call the first wave,

is not, what is the meaning of agriculture.

The civilization was facing similar values of agriculture.

And this has generated, is, people in the field,

is, small towns, limited trade, manufacturing.

And it got to the middle ages, with the industrial revolution.

In the industrial revolution, it generated otherwise.

It was a mass was a serial production.

It is, marriage is, people around major centers, is not it?

Has an output, is in series.

And this created several problems, is social.

Even where that sociologists say,

that really began the issue of poverty.

Because the accumulation of capital, he started this, this industrial revolution.

And we now arriving here that, at the turn of the century,

and we are experiencing a moment,

it seems that people do not understand well what is

and people are lost.

And after that, I also consider myself well,

I tried that and study, and I got to the Venus Project,

and he proposes, and said the following.

It is that we are now in a change of mode of production,

and we are now working with information.

Masse with no more product in the industry.

It says the following. It is what it causes,

what are the consequences of this process of giving information.

It causes a personal service not massified.

So everything else, is running, is not

is behind a sense massified now is individual.

And, we do not have, is that more, that whole economy geared to meet is, millions of people.

We now have an economy facing, increasingly,

geared to meet a person.

And that is creating this chaos in general.

Well, then what do you propose? As it is, like, what the bill proposes?

How to work, how to live?

The project, he proposes a change, is in production mode, and that would be what?

Is proposed a resource-based economy.

What would that be? Today we have an economy based on money, is not it?

And a resource-based economy, it proposes the following. One example.

If we have a systems analyst, and we have a computer,

nothing prevents him that he do something,

a system to produce an effect.

In this economy based on values, resources,

there is the money factor, isn’t it?

These variables that we have here today doesn’t exist.

The market. It's worth putting a product,

produce anything else, it's worth taking?

No. In resource-based economy produces as much as you need

for people to have a high standard of living. Not?

That's the big change in, in terms of values.

I mean, that would eliminate the money. Eliminate money.

Well, let's clarify this before continuing,

a question from Luisa, who is here in the square Rosinha Cadar.

Luisa. Good morning Marcos, thank you for your participation here with us.

Well, today we live the reality of economic globalization,

I mean, I understand I did not get much

when you say that the market trend would be the production,

not for mass but for the individual in the face of globalization.

I wanted you to explain this to people.

And we live in the third, we call the third industrial revolution, is not it?

With the trend in automation and computerization.

I am not able to understand where,

how that reality would fit this new context,

this new project. Explains to us.

Well, the first would be the following. The issue of mass,

she had, it would be more the consequences of this mass that brought,

for example, people from the countryside to the city.

Yeah, what happened very well, is

farmers, they were, is uprooted from the property,

and there he created a, a, a, up to a sentence that I found interesting,

that invited here, Ana (?) is, she said,

Hannah said the following, which is the economy,

the economy is already socialized to work, people already socialized to work.

I mean, this is included in the people,

it was placed people, and this is not so.

So, actually, you have to produce to a welfare,

you do not have to produce to generate capital gains, to generate the economy,

and to generate this economy that is in the hand of few today.

Yeah, the question is, personal care,

not, it is in no mass, is as follows.

A, we're seeing his, mass unemployment,

is, and the trend of increasingly it happen.

And we can not see the future.

For anyone, when we ask today is,

where we're going, what is our future tomorrow?

We can not see.

And companies are taking a stance of such despair,

they run for a personal service in terms of a structure,

a mega structure such as the one we are living today.

Globalization, it is helping businesses meet these people personally.

One example of this. Is being created,

I even attended an event last week, called Call Center.

What's this? It's all a control that companies have,

from care when you request a service,

even when you return, you receive a service,

a call, or something similar,

the company, saying how you were treated.

And this is happening in large companies,

style, for example, a Ford, a Volkswagen.

So, hey, you buy a car,

passes, is, one, two weeks that you requested a service,

and you get, for example, a phone call asking how you were well attended,

how did you met, your opinion.

So, I mean, what is desmassificado care.

Meanwhile, we are creating a society completely apart, excluded

that is, or rather, they are people who are in this situation of job loss today

it seems that we do not, I mean, people are not seeing,

not want to see this big problem that is being generated there.

And I think that is, is up to the intellectuals,

they are expecting an uprising, a revolution these classes,

to point a path.

And in fact, what The Venus Project proposes

that is, those people who hold power today one of, thought,

of working information, it now proposes to change.

Do not expect that this revolution is, that can not happen.

Happen. Well, one more question for you Louise. Luisa.

Marcos, how is the role of the state, the government, faced with this project?

Okay. Here comes a serious problem, which is as follows.

The Venus Project, he proposes, is, with this economy desmassificada,

him, he asks a question now.

It is, for what we have in government today, okay?

This happens, is much in the work environment,

that people asks, heck,

if they had not regulating my money in the sinking fund,

if they had not regulating my security system,

I would even realize it.

Then the Venus Project proposes

not only the withdrawal based economy, financial cost, is not it?

As he proposes, is administrative cores. Small administrative centers.

They do not pose a federal system of government.

You have, for example, a congress,

you, you do not have this structure there today.

Okay, well, one more question then, from Luísa.

Then I want to show a little bit here

what already exists in this project, is not it? C'mon, Luisa.

Marcos, I just wanted to lighten it a little.

Well, in, is, like, from what you said, then, is, what,

all the solutions government would be privatized? Was that it?

It is not, is not the case of being privatized.

She will be absorbed by, for that core.

Not? We will go here soon.

It would be a core of communities?

Exactly. It is what sociologists have been saying today, they are predicting, is as follows.

Several, is something similar to (súlvios?) That happened in, in the Soviet Union,

is not, of proletarian revolution that is happening now.

For example, are emerging, is multicore,

themselves and realize itself. They themselves govern.

So is not the question of privatizing.

There is what to buy something.

You simply is work for you to have some, something.

For example, I know how to do programs, not of computers.

So I'll do the program, and gives a computer,

and make programs, those that will be used by the company.

In exchange, it is, I will receive a service, eg a doctor,

being simply providing a service.

Then there is the question of someone managing someone.

The very core, it is, is administered.

What is given is manageable, is not it?

Now, whoever manages this core, is as follows,

is that there is great detail.

We place great is technology, great information, the service of these nuclei.

We do not work against the robot,

we do not work against computerization.

Yeah, every day, we're working with here you will see in the photos,

for the houses, so that all services are fully automated.

So people can, is, receive and have a standard of living is high,

without, for example, having collection services.

These services crop will be completely automated.

Service production control, some, some system

He also fully automated.

And it all worked out in the form of exchanges.

I do it, and I get this in return

or because I pay my service, and in exchange I get other services?

Look, I is not, I would not want to put not so well.

I would like to put it this way.

I do a service for the welfare of my community, right?

Yes, and then, the community also provides other services ranging,

it will be good for me, for my neighbor. Exactly.

I mean, everything works as an exchange like, circular no money, no, is not it?

Exactly. I, today for example, we have here the first nucleus that is there in Florida.

He is now real, and we use this core to do the tests already with these technologies.

And, no, I think we better move here, is not it? To take a look.

Louise, there is one more question of the square?

It has more a question of Luisa. Luisa, let’s go.

Let me just finish this idea.

Well, yeah, you said that the trend

is, the information is somehow leading to this project, is not it?

The worldwide trend is the same.

Let's think about this in terms of Brazilian reality.

We live a social and economic reality discrepant.

We have slum side of people very rich.

When you speak to information and technology is going to lead this project,

how it will be, is such, how is this society,

This class does not have access, which has no chance and contact

with this information and with this technology?

Well, the answer is education. Simply education.

It is precisely because it is, I should think from that class of people, that claim,

to bring, to rescue those who are being excluded in society.

It is the intent is precisely this,

to bring these people to a class, the standard of living is

he can really, is to live, not simply live.

Do not get that margin, the margin as it is today.

Well then there is already a core working, is it?

This one for example, you brought for us to see.

Okay. Therefore, there is a core of tests,

where we're doing in Florida, yeah, some already are, is, homes,

and they are intelligent, and where such proposals are put there,

is at least part of the information.

Here, look, shown here, look, what's there, and he is focusing on, this is a house here.

This is a house in Florida already.

He even has a format, is that.

Can you show the design here, here, look, that.

It has a format, here, for example, in that it is harmonic with with the environment.

Another thing is the following.

All technology used for this, for that, for them, for this project, for these houses,

they are, is totally clean, they are not clean, okay?

They do not use, they use technology to produce electricity, wind,

is, whatever that is not polluting.

Oh, and here, look there. Here also a house would be, is not it?

It would be virtually the same place is the kitchen.

This is actually where the directors who are living there at the Venus Project Florida, which is the ...

He comes from there this project?

He comes from there. Yeah, I brought this project over the internet.

Here, for example, think it would be interesting, would be the core of this project nervous, okay?

Here you have an idea of the city. She would have a circular shape, right?

Where each is, that represent a unit circle.

For example, a unit of planting, a unit of education,

and this would be the center down here, where we call it, which is the core nervous.

Where this is fully automated, and uses the process in Brazil is not widespread,

What is cybernation, which is Cybernation such, these technologies.

I mean, intelligent electronics controlling machines,

performing a service for the population. Right.

This here for example, would have one of the projects, and this is as follows.

We have here, is this is a mockup,

no, this boat does not actually exist today, but the design of this boat already exists.

That's important.

The design of the energy captured by solar energy, it already exists.

Now, why it is not implemented today?

Why it is not economically viable for the economy, is that there is today.

But for a market-based economy in resource-based

not economically viable factor ceases to exist.

It can be produced here because we'll get a team of people capable of building,

and we build the boat.

One, the raw material we have on the planet. Just that we work well,

in order to live or live in coexistence with the ecosystem.

Right. Let's keep going.

Meanwhile, there's more a question of Luisa, there Rosinha Cadar the square. Luisa, you can talk.

Luisa? Thank you, Márcia. It took a little while to get the picture.

Our technology. Let’s go.

Marcos is, you spoke of the nuclei, is not it?

Yeah, and those who administer brains, how does this work?

Who are these brains?

And who administer, and who would manage these cores?

Okay. It is these nuclei, they are managed by a team,

is, or persons, is, that would be, as he says,

I could tell elected? I do not know. Chosen?

It is chosen, right? It is in the process to manage.

In fact, be technicians.

Because that here there is no need for you to have one person managing it.

I'll give an example here, for example, is

suppose a person wanted to, is working with photographs.

Work does not have a holiday with pictures.

He goes to the place. Yeah, where are these that is, material and equipment,

and he just picks up the equipment,

uses time as needed, and then returns.

So there has to be administered.

The control on the other side would be really mechanical,

or rather, is computerized, is not it?

Plus, is there then a an important factor,

it has no way we put so.

Heck, from tomorrow we'll be in this economy? No.

It is a process that the entire planet are these budding consciences.

Not only is the Venus Project that is thinking that way.

Several are several others, is, cultures,

and each with its peculiarities,

But walking into this, for this aspect.

Now, there is the education factor.

There's no way we catch a slum today, for example,

and bring to live in this culture.

And you do not even have to get a person a millionaire,

for example, a culture and bring this.

We have to keep working it slowly

and that is the proposal of the Venus Project. Many education.

I mean, besides education, a total change of mindset. Right.

Overall, do you? Well, more a question of Luisa. Let’s go, Luisa.

Well, yeah, these technicians, they would not have access to different information,

I mean, more advantageous than others,

and it could not generate a dangerous kind of power?

Yes, yes it could. It is a careful we have to take,

because otherwise there'd seen George Orwell, is not it? It is, in Animal Farm.

And that really is a careful we have, but

is, once we take the economic factor

where that person can seobrepor if ... Taking advantage?

Yeah, take advantage of others, is, in effect, at least economically.

It is this factor disappears.

What we would have to work would

is the consciousness level of the people living in the community,

for the community to have a future.

What is interesting that we see today,

that there is in the United States, where Jacque and Roxanne, they give several lectures there,

are not poor people, nor is it, who are interested in the projects.

It is people, it is, of all social classes.

Because the big question is this. What is our future?

If we stop to ask what is our future, do not exist.

We are heading towards chaos.

We are heading for total destruction.

That's all for greed.

Yeah, well, so here is what?

This would be a model city while a ...

Come back to the model here please. Around here, the model for this.

This one would be the model city,

where the center would be down here, and here the circles.

Circle of education, leisure.

Now, this here is a mockup, not necessarily this would happen this way.

I'll show another here, a little more, is here is here. Please.

Here, for example, would center down here several projects.

Even here we have a project of a spaceship, a space station,

It is a very bold design, right?

It is here would be, for example, a circle.

In circles circles here we would have water.

In addition to transport it to serve irrigation.

It is totally well planned.

Here would be really, what a city is.

A coexistence, for example, with several circles here

but not necessarily in that order, so, is not it?

Yeah, Luisa are wanting to do one more question for you. Luisa.

Marcos, you're, you propose these new models of city

who live with you spoke with the environment in a different way,

and offers a better quality of life.

In part, this idea is very interesting.

Now, where is that would be the old cities? They would be destroyed?

In terms of the world, how would?

This is a change that was happening slowly.

Yeah, just like those cities, is

I did not even say, hey, what would a building?

No, this building can be used.

Since he is not, mug nature somehow.

We here, for example, some ...

Look, this here, this here we go, I think it would be interesting.

I am going here real quick. Here, ready. Beauty.

This one, for example, would be one, some model,

in areas wholly is shown here, it is here that area, totally dry. Okay?

Why? There would be a core, for example, a nucleus here.

Ah, then I want to live in, in Florida. I want to live in Rio de Janeiro.

Not? So would not it.

We have nuclei that were scattered throughout the world.

And the most interesting. This, this, this technology is that it is built, already 22 years ago in Florida,

she will not be sold. There is that aspect.

When a group, eg solve this mounting unit in Africa

technology would simply be passed on,

for them to adapt that technology to its culture and its region

and implemented the way they see fit,

this is not necessary, not necessarily in this way.

But that would be necessary here. The way to capture energy.

It is the technology that they have, and they will need.

Alright. I wish you leave your phone contact here,

for those interested in further clarification

and more detailed, even more details of this project.

As he is already working, it already has some units,

and as it is here in Brazil.

Because these units are in Florida, is not the United States.

How is this happening here in Brazil.

So can it be? Leave your contact phone number?

Yes What happens here is the Venus Project, it needs to be disclosed.

The more people know the existence of this project,

this process is that it begins to happen.

It means of this program, for example, this opportunity,

that people will look for me, and we'll talk

Look, we have to build a structure here to change people.

It is the easiest place to find the Venus Project is the Internet, right?

You simply do an internet search on the Venus Project,

and you will fall here on my site, here in Brazil,

where have all the information there, and you will be able to browse,

and research every project there in Florida, both here in Florida,

Therefore, it is not, no, you will be able to go.

It is the contact phone number is 223 2707.

This is my home phone, is

The Venus Project, I repeat here, he has no economic purpose.

It is not my project, it is good to be clear.

It is a project, is the planet's civilization.

And simply, it is an idea that I had with me a long time ago,

and when I discovered the project, I decided to put into practice. Not?

Here. Here in Brazil. Alright. I'll chase it.

It is 223 2707 is the phone Birro Marcos Calixto,

and contacting him, he may give further clarification,

even say the address on the internet, is not

that the person can contact the internet.

Marcos, thank you, thank you for presence,

participation by, and for the clarification. Is that okay?

Thank you, and I hope I get

enough phone calls to participate in the project.

It will be very important to our civilization.

That’s nice, thanks. A brief respite, but Profissão Mulher will be back right now.