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How to expose the corrupt

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    I am going to speak about corruption,
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    but I would like to juxtapose
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    two different things.
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    One is the large global economy,
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    the large globalized economy,
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    and the other one is the small, and very limited,
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    capacity of our traditional governments
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    and their international institutions
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    to govern, to shape, this economy.
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    Because there is this asymmetry,
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    which creates, basically,
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    failing governance.
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    Failing governance in many areas:
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    in the area of corruption and the area of destruction of the environment,
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    in the area of exploitation of women and children,
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    in the area of climate change,
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    in all the areas in which we really need
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    a capacity to reintroduce
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    the primacy of politics
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    into the economy,
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    which is operating in a worldwide arena.
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    And I think corruption,
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    and the fight against corruption,
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    and the impact of corruption,
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    is probably one of the most interesting ways
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    to illustrate what I mean
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    with this failure of governance.
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    Let me talk about my own experience.
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    I used to work as the director
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    of the World Bank office in Nairobi
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    for East Africa.
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    At that time, I noticed
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    that corruption, that grand corruption,
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    that systematic corruption,
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    was undermining everything we were trying to do.
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    And therefore, I began
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    to not only try to protect
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    the work of the World Bank,
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    our own projects, our own programs
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    against corruption,
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    but in general, I thought, "We need a system
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    to protect the people
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    in this part of the world
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    from the ravages of corruption."
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    And as soon as I started this work,
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    I received a memorandum from the World Bank,
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    from the legal department first,
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    in which they said, "You are not allowed to do this.
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    You are meddling in the internal affairs of our partner countries.
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    This is forbidden by the charter of the World Bank,
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    so I want you to stop your doings."
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    In the meantime, I was chairing
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    donor meetings, for instance,
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    in which the various donors,
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    and many of them like to be in Nairobi --
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    it is true, it is one of the
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    unsafest cities of the world,
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    but they like to be there because the other cities
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    are even less comfortable.
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    And in these donor meetings, I noticed
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    that many of the worst projects --
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    which were put forward
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    by our clients, by the governments,
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    by promoters,
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    many of them representing
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    suppliers from the North --
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    that the worst projects
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    were realized first.
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    Let me give you an example:
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    a huge power project,
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    300 million dollars,
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    to be built smack into
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    one of the most vulnerable, and one of the most beautiful,
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    areas of western Kenya.
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    And we all noticed immediately
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    that this project had no economic benefits:
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    It had no clients, nobody would buy the electricity there,
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    nobody was interested in irrigation projects.
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    To the contrary, we knew that this project
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    would destroy the environment:
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    It would destroy riparian forests,
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    which were the basis for
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    the survival of nomadic groups,
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    the Samburu and the Turkana in this area.
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    So everybody knew this is a, not a useless project,
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    this is an absolute damaging, a terrible project --
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    not to speak about the future indebtedness of the country
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    for these hundreds of millions of dollars,
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    and the siphoning off
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    of the scarce resources of the economy
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    from much more important activities
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    like schools, like hospitals and so on.
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    And yet, we all rejected this project,
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    none of the donors was willing
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    to have their name connected with it,
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    and it was the first project to be implemented.
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    The good projects, which we as a donor community
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    would take under our wings,
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    they took years, you know,
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    you had too many studies,
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    and very often they didn't succeed.
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    But these bad projects,
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    which were absolutely damaging -- for the economy
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    for many generations, for the environment,
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    for thousands of families who had to be resettled --
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    they were suddenly put together
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    by consortia of banks,
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    of supplier agencies,
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    of insurance agencies --
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    like in Germany, Hermes, and so on --
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    and they came back very, very quickly,
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    driven by an unholy alliance
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    between the powerful elites
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    in the countries there
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    and the suppliers from the North.
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    Now, these suppliers
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    were our big companies.
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    They were the actors of this global market,
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    which I mentioned in the beginning.
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    They were the Siemenses of this world,
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    coming from France, from the UK, from Japan,
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    from Canada, from Germany,
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    and they were systematically driven
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    by systematic, large-scale corruption.
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    We are not talking about
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    50,000 dollars here,
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    or 100,000 dollars there, or one million dollars there.
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    No, we are talking about 10 million, 20 million dollars
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    on the Swiss bank accounts,
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    on the bank accounts of Liechtenstein,
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    of the president's ministers,
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    the high officials in the para-statal sectors.
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    This was the reality which I saw,
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    and not only one project like that:
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    I saw, I would say,
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    over the years I worked in Africa,
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    I saw hundreds of projects like this.
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    And so, I became convinced
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    that it is this systematic corruption
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    which is perverting economic policy-making in these countries,
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    which is the main reason
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    for the misery, for the poverty,
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    for the conflicts, for the violence,
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    for the desperation
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    in many of these countries.
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    That we have today
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    more than a billion people below the absolute poverty line,
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    that we have more than a billion people
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    without proper drinking water in the world,
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    twice that number,
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    more than two billion people
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    without sanitation and so on,
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    and the consequent illnesses
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    of mothers and children,
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    still, child mortality of more than
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    10 million people every year,
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    children dying before they are five years old:
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    The cause of this is, to a large extent,
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    grand corruption.
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    Now, why did the World Bank
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    not let me do this work?
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    I found out afterwards,
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    after I left, under a big fight, the World Bank.
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    The reason was that the members of the World Bank
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    thought that foreign bribery was okay,
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    including Germany.
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    In Germany, foreign bribery was allowed.
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    It was even tax-deductible.
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    No wonder that most of the most important
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    international operators in Germany,
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    but also in France and the UK
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    and Scandinavia, everywhere, systematically bribed.
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    Not all of them, but most of them.
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    And this is the phenomenon
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    which I call failing governance,
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    because when I then came to Germany
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    and started this little NGO
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    here in Berlin, at the Villa Borsig,
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    we were told, "You cannot stop
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    our German exporters from bribing,
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    because we will lose our contracts.
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    We will lose to the French,
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    we will lose to the Swedes, we'll lose to the Japanese."
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    And therefore, there was a indeed a prisoner's dilemma,
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    which made it very difficult
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    for an individual company,
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    an individual exporting country
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    to say, "We are not going to
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    continue this deadly, disastrous
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    habit of large companies to bribe."
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    So this is what I mean
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    with a failing governance structure,
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    because even the powerful government,
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    which we have in Germany, comparatively,
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    was not able to say,
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    "We will not allow our companies to bribe abroad."
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    They needed help,
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    and the large companies themselves
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    have this dilemma.
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    Many of them didn't want to bribe.
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    Many of the German companies, for instance,
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    believe that they are really
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    producing a high-quality product
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    at a good price, so they are very competitive.
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    They are not as good at bribing
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    as many of their international competitors are,
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    but they were not allowed
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    to show their strengths,
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    because the world was eaten up
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    by grand corruption.
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    And this is why I'm telling you this:
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    Civil society rose to the occasion.
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    We had this small NGO,
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    Transparency International.
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    They began to think of
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    an escape route from this prisoner's dilemma,
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    and we developed concepts
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    of collective action,
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    basically trying to bring various competitors
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    together around the table,
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    explaining to all of them
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    how much it would be in their interests
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    if they simultaneously would stop bribing,
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    and to make a long story short,
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    we managed to eventually
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    get Germany to sign
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    together with the other OECD countries
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    and a few other exporters.
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    In 1997, a convention,
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    under the auspices of the OECD,
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    which obliged everybody
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    to change their laws
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    and criminalize foreign bribery.
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    (Applause)
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    Well, thank you. I mean, it's interesting,
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    in doing this,
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    we had to sit together with the companies.
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    We had here in Berlin, at the Aspen Institute on the Wannsee,
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    we had sessions with about
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    20 captains of industry,
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    and we discussed with them
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    what to do about international bribery.
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    In the first session -- we had three sessions
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    over the course of two years.
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    And President von Weizsäcker, by the way,
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    chaired one of the sessions, the first one,
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    to take the fear away
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    from the entrepreneurs,
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    who were not used to deal
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    with non-governmental organizations.
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    And in the first session, they all said,
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    "This is not bribery, what we are doing." This is customary there.
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    This is what these other cultures demand.
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    They even applaud it.
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    In fact, [unclear]
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    still says this today.
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    And so there are still a lot of people
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    who are not convinced that you have to stop bribing.
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    But in the second session,
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    they admitted already that they would never do this,
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    what they are doing in these other countries,
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    here in Germany, or in the U.K., and so on.
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    Cabinet ministers would admit this.
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    And in the final session, at the Aspen Institute,
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    we had them all sign an open letter
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    to the Kohl government, at the time,
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    requesting that they
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    participate in the OECD convention.
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    And this is, in my opinion,
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    an example of soft power,
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    because we were able to convince them
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    that they had to go with us.
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    We had a longer-term time perspective.
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    We had a broader,
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    geographically much wider,
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    constituency we were trying to defend.
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    And that's why the law has changed.
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    That's why Siemens is now in the trouble they are in
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    and that's why MIN is in the trouble they are in.
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    In some other countries, the OECD convention
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    is not yet properly enforced.
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    And, again, civil societies
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    breathing down the neck of the establishment.
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    In London, for instance,
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    where the BAE got away
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    with a huge corruption case,
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    which the Serious Fraud Office tried to prosecute,
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    100 million British pounds,
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    every year for ten years,
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    to one particular official of one particular friendly country,
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    who then bought for
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    44 billion pounds of military equipment.
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    This case, they are not prosecuting in the UK.
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    Why? Because they consider this
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    as contrary to the security interest
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    of the people of Great Britain.
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    Civil society is pushing, civil society
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    is trying to get a solution to this problem,
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    also in the U.K.,
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    and also in Japan, which is not properly enforcing,
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    and so on.
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    In Germany, we are pushing
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    the ratification of the UN convention,
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    which is a subsequent convention.
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    We are, Germany, is not ratifying.
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    Why? Because it would make it necessary
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    to criminalize the corruption
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    of deputies.
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    In Germany, we have a system where
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    you are not allowed to bribe a civil servant,
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    but you are allowed to bribe a deputy.
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    This is, under German law, allowed,
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    and the members of our parliament don't want to change this,
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    and this is why they can't sign
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    the U.N. convention against foreign bribery --
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    one of they very, very few countries
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    which is preaching honesty and good governance everywhere in the world,
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    but not able to ratify the convention,
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    which we managed to get on the books
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    with about 160 countries all over the world.
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    I see my time is ticking.
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    Let me just try to
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    draw some conclusions from what has happened.
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    I believe that what we managed to achieve
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    in fighting corruption,
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    one can also achieve
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    in other areas of failing governance.
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    By now, the United Nations
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    is totally on our side.
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    The World Bank has turned from Saulus to Paulus; under Wolfensohn,
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    they became, I would say, the strongest
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    anti-corruption agency in the world.
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    Most of the large companies
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    are now totally convinced
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    that they have to put in place
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    very strong policies
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    against bribery and so on.
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    And this is possible because civil society
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    joined the companies
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    and joined the government
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    in the analysis of the problem,
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    in the development of remedies,
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    in the implementation of reforms,
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    and then later, in the monitoring of reforms.
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    Of course, if civil society organizations
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    want to play that role,
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    they have to grow into this responsibility.
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    Not all civil society organizations are good.
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    The Ku Klux Klan is an NGO.
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    So, we must be aware
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    that civil society
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    has to shape up itself.
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    They have to have a much more
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    transparent financial governance.
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    They have to have a much more participatory governance
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    in many civil society organizations.
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    We also need much more competence of civil society leaders.
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    This is why we have set up the governance school
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    and the Center for Civil Society here in Berlin,
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    because we believe most of our educational
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    and research institutions in Germany
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    and continental Europe in general,
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    do not focus enough, yet,
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    on empowering civil society
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    and training the leadership of civil society.
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    But what I'm saying from my very practical experience:
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    If civil society does it right
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    and joins the other actors --
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    in particular, governments,
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    governments and their international institutions,
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    but also large international actors,
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    in particular those which have committed themselves
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    to corporate social responsibility --
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    then in this magical triangle
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    between civil society,
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    government and private sector,
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    there is a tremendous chance
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    for all of us to create a better world.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How to expose the corrupt
Speaker:
Peter Eigen
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Some of the world's most baffling social problems, says Peter Eigen, can be traced to systematic, pervasive government corruption, hand-in-glove with global companies. At TEDxBerlin, Eigen describes the thrilling counter-attack led by his organization Transparency International.

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Video Language:
English
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closed TED
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TEDTalks
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15:52
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