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My wish: Help me stop pandemics

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    I'm the luckiest guy in the world.
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    I got to see the last case
    of killer smallpox in the world.
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    I was in India this past year,
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    and I may have seen
    the last cases of polio in the world.
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    There's nothing that makes
    you feel more --
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    the blessing and the honor
    of working in a program like that --
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    than to know that something
    that horrible no longer exists.
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    So I'm going to tell you --
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    (Applause)
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    so I'm going to show you
    some dirty pictures.
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    They are difficult to watch,
    but you should look at them with optimism,
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    because the horror
    of these pictures will be matched
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    by the uplifting quality of knowing
    that they no longer exist.
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    But first, I'm going to tell you
    a little bit about my own journey.
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    My background is not exactly
    the conventional medical education
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    that you might expect.
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    When I was an intern in San Francisco,
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    I heard about a group of Native Americans
    who had taken over Alcatraz Island,
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    and a Native American
    who wanted to give birth on that island,
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    and no other doctor wanted
    to go and help her give birth.
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    I went out to Alcatraz, and I lived
    on the island for several weeks.
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    She gave birth; I caught
    the baby; I got off the island;
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    I landed in San Francisco;
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    and all the press wanted to talk to me,
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    because my three weeks on the island
    made me an expert in Indian affairs.
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    (Laughter)
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    I wound up on every television show.
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    Someone saw me on television;
    they called me up; and they asked me
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    if I'd like to be in a movie
    and to play a young doctor
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    for a bunch of rock and roll stars
    who were traveling in a bus ride
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    from San Francisco to England.
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    And I said, yes, I would do that,
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    so I became the doctor
    in an absolutely awful movie
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    called "Medicine Ball Caravan."
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    (Laughter)
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    Now, you know from the '60s,
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    you're either on the bus
    or you're off the bus; I was on the bus.
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    My wife of 37 years and I joined the bus.
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    Our bus ride took us
    from San Francisco to London,
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    then we switched buses at the big pond.
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    We then got on two more buses
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    and we drove through Turkey
    and Iran, Afghanistan,
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    over the Khyber Pass into Pakistan,
    like every other young doctor.
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    This is us at the Khyber Pass,
    and that's our bus.
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    We had some difficulty getting
    over the Khyber Pass.
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    But we wound up in India.
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    And then, like everyone else
    in our generation,
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    we went to live in a Himalayan monastery.
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    (Laughter)
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    This is just like a residency program,
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    for those of you
    that are in medical school.
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    (Laughter)
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    And we studied with a wise man,
    a guru named Karoli Baba,
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    who then told me to get rid of the dress,
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    put on a three-piece suit,
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    go join the United Nations as a diplomat
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    and work for the World
    Health Organization.
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    And he made an outrageous prediction
    that smallpox would be eradicated,
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    and that this was God's gift to humanity,
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    because of the hard work
    of dedicated scientists.
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    And that prediction came true.
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    This little girl is Rahima Banu,
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    and she was the last case
    of killer smallpox in the world.
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    And this document is the certificate
    that the global commission signed,
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    certifying the world to have eradicated
    the first disease in history.
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    The key to eradicating smallpox
    was early detection, early response.
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    I'm going to ask you to repeat that:
    early detection, early response.
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    Can you say that?
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    Audience: Early detection, early response.
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    Larry Brilliant: Smallpox
    was the worst disease in history.
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    It killed more people
    than all the wars in history.
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    In the last century,
    it killed 500 million people.
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    You're reading about Larry Page already.
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    Somebody reads very fast.
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    (Laughter)
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    In the year that Larry Page
    and Sergey Brin --
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    with whom I have a certain affection
    and a new affiliation --
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    in the year in which they were born,
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    two million people died of smallpox.
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    We declared smallpox eradicated in 1980.
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    This is the most important slide
    that I've ever seen in public health,
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    [Sovereigns killed by smallpox]
    because it shows you
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    to be the richest and the strongest,
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    and to be kings and queens of the world,
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    did not protect you
    from dying of smallpox.
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    Never can you doubt
    that we are all in this together.
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    But to see smallpox
    from the perspective of a sovereign
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    is the wrong perspective.
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    You should see it
    from the perspective of a mother,
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    watching her child develop
    this disease and standing by helplessly.
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    Day one, day two, day three,
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    day four, day five, day six.
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    You're a mother and you're
    watching your child,
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    and on day six, you see
    pustules that become hard.
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    Day seven, they show the classic scars
    of smallpox umbilication.
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    Day eight.
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    And Al Gore said earlier
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    that the most photographed
    image in the world,
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    the most printed image in the world,
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    was that of the Earth.
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    But this was in 1974,
    and as of that moment,
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    this photograph was the photograph
    that was the most widely printed,
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    because we printed two billion copies
    of this photograph,
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    and we took them
    hand to hand, door to door,
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    to show people and ask them
    if there was smallpox in their house,
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    because that was our surveillance system.
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    We didn't have Google,
    we didn't have web crawlers,
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    we didn't have computers.
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    By day nine -- you look at this picture
    and you're horrified;
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    I look at this picture
    and I say, "Thank God,"
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    because it's clear that this is only
    an ordinary case of smallpox,
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    and I know this child will live.
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    And by day 13, the lesions
    are scabbing, his eyelids are swollen,
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    but you know this child has
    no other secondary infection.
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    And by day 20, while he will be
    scarred for life, he will live.
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    There are other kinds of smallpox
    that are not like that.
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    This is confluent smallpox,
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    in which there isn't a single place
    on the body where you could put a finger
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    and not be covered by lesions.
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    Flat smallpox, which killed 100 percent
    of people who got it.
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    And hemorrhagic smallpox,
    the most cruel of all,
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    which had a predilection
    for pregnant women.
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    I've probably had 50 women die.
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    They all had hemorrhagic smallpox.
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    I've never seen anybody die from it
    who wasn't a pregnant woman.
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    In 1967, the WHO embarked
    on what was an outrageous program
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    to eradicate a disease.
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    In that year, there were 34 countries
    affected with smallpox.
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    By 1970, we were down to 18 countries.
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    1974, we were down to five countries.
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    But in that year,
    smallpox exploded throughout India.
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    And India was the place
    where smallpox made its last stand.
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    In 1974, India had
    a population of 600 million.
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    There are 21 linguistic states in India,
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    which is like saying
    21 different countries.
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    There are 20 million people
    on the road at any time,
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    in buses and trains, walking;
    500,000 villages, 120 million households,
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    and none of them wanted to report
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    if they had a case
    of smallpox in their house,
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    because they thought that smallpox
    was the visitation of a deity,
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    Shitala Mata, the cooling mother,
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    and it was wrong to bring
    strangers into your house
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    when the deity was in the house.
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    No incentive to report smallpox.
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    It wasn't just India
    that had smallpox deities;
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    smallpox deities were
    prevalent all over the world.
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    So, how we eradicated smallpox was --
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    mass vaccination wouldn't work.
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    You could vaccinate everybody in India,
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    but one year later there'd be
    21 million new babies,
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    which was then the population of Canada.
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    It wouldn't do just to vaccinate everyone.
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    You had to find every single
    case of smallpox in the world
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    at the same time, and draw
    a circle of immunity around it.
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    And that's what we did.
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    In India alone, my 150,000 best friends
    and I went door to door,
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    with that same picture,
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    to every single house in India.
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    We made over one billion house calls.
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    And in the process,
    I learned something very important.
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    Every time we did a house-to-house search,
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    we had a spike in the number
    of reports of smallpox.
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    When we didn't search, we had
    the illusion that there was no disease.
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    When we did search, we had the illusion
    that there was more disease.
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    A surveillance system was necessary,
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    because what we needed
    was early detection, early response.
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    So we searched and we searched,
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    and we found every case
    of smallpox in India.
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    We had a reward. We raised the reward.
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    We continued to increase the reward.
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    We had a scorecard
    that we wrote on every house.
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    And as we did that,
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    the number of reported cases
    in the world dropped to zero.
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    And in 1980, we declared the globe
    free of smallpox.
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    It was the largest campaign
    in United Nations history,
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    until the Iraq war.
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    150,000 people from all over the world --
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    doctors of every race,
    religion, culture and nation,
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    who fought side by side,
    brothers and sisters,
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    with each other, not against each other,
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    in a common cause
    to make the world better.
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    But smallpox was the fourth disease
    that was intended for eradication.
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    We failed three other times.
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    We failed against malaria,
    yellow fever and yaws.
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    But soon we may see polio eradicated.
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    But the key to eradicating polio
    is early detection, early response.
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    This may be the year we eradicate polio.
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    That will make it
    the second disease in history.
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    And David Heymann, who's watching
    this on the webcast --
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    David, keep on going. We're close!
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    We're down to four countries.
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    (Applause)
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    I feel like Hank Aaron.
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    Barry Bonds can replace me any time.
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    Let's get another disease off the list
    of terrible things to worry about.
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    I was just in India working on
    the polio program.
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    The polio surveillance program
    is four million people going door to door.
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    That is the surveillance system.
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    But we need to have
    early detection, early response.
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    Blindness, the same thing.
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    The key to discovering blindness
    is doing epidemiological surveys
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    and finding out the causes of blindness,
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    so you can mount the correct response.
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    The Seva Foundation
    was started by a group of alumni
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    of the Smallpox Eradication Programme,
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    who, having climbed the highest mountain,
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    tasted the elixir of the success
    of eradicating a disease,
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    wanted to do it again.
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    And over the last 27 years,
    Seva's programs in 15 countries
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    have given back sight
    to more than two million blind people.
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    Seva got started because we wanted
    to apply these lessons
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    of surveillance and epidemiology
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    to something which nobody else
    was looking at as a public health issue:
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    blindness, which heretofore had been
    thought of only as a clinical disease.
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    In 1980, Steve Jobs gave me
    that computer, which is Apple number 12,
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    and it's still in Kathmandu,
    and it's still working,
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    and we ought to go get it and auction
    it off and make more money for Seva.
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    And we conducted the first Nepal survey
    ever done for health,
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    and the first nationwide
    blindness survey ever done,
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    and we had astonishing results.
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    Instead of finding out
    what we thought was the case --
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    that blindness was caused mostly
    by glaucoma and trachoma --
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    we were astounded to find out
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    that blindness was caused
    instead by cataract.
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    You can't cure or prevent
    what you don't know is there.
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    In your TED packages
    there's a DVD, "Infinite Vision,"
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    about Dr. V and the Aravind Eye Hospital.
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    I hope that you will take a look at it.
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    Aravind, which started as a Seva project,
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    is now the world's largest
    and best eye hospital.
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    This year, that one hospital
    will give back sight
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    to more than 300,000 people
    in Tamil Nadu, India.
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    (Applause)
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    Bird flu.
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    I stand here as a representative
    of all terrible things --
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    this might be the worst.
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    The key to preventing
    or mitigating pandemic bird flu
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    is early detection and rapid response.
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    We will not have a vaccine
    or adequate supplies of an antiviral
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    to combat bird flu if it occurs
    in the next three years.
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    WHO stages the progress of a pandemic.
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    We are now at stage three
    on the pandemic alert stage,
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    with just a little bit
    of human-to-human transmission,
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    but no human-to-human-to-human
    sustained transmission.
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    The moment WHO says
    we've moved to category four --
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    this will not be like Katrina.
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    The world as we know it will stop.
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    There'll be no airplanes flying.
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    Would you get in an airplane
    with 250 people you didn't know,
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    coughing and sneezing,
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    when you knew that some of them
    might carry a disease that could kill you,
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    for which you had
    no antivirals or vaccine?
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    I did a study of the top epidemiologists
    in the world in October.
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    I asked them -- these are all fluologists
    and specialists in influenza --
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    and I asked them the questions
    you'd like to ask them:
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    What do you think the likelihood
    is that there'll be a pandemic?
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    If it happens, how bad
    do you think it will be?
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    Fifteen percent said they thought
    there'd be a pandemic within three years.
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    But much worse than that,
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    90 percent said they thought
    there'd be a pandemic
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    within your children
    or your grandchildren's lifetime.
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    And they thought
    that if there was a pandemic,
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    a billion people would get sick.
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    As many as 165 million people would die.
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    There would be a global
    recession and depression
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    as our just-in-time inventory system
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    and the tight rubber band
    of globalization broke,
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    and the cost to our economy
    of one to three trillion dollars
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    would be far worse for everyone
    than merely 100 million people dying,
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    because so many more people
    would lose their job
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    and their healthcare benefits,
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    that the consequences
    are almost unthinkable.
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    And it's getting worse,
    because travel is getting so much better.
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    Let me show you a simulation
    of what a pandemic looks like.
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    So we know what we're talking about.
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    Let's assume, for example,
    that the first case occurs in South Asia.
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    It initially goes quite slowly.
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    You get two or three discrete locations.
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    Then there'll be secondary outbreaks,
    and the disease will spread
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    from country to country so fast
    that you won't know what hit you.
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    Within three weeks
    it will be everywhere in the world.
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    Now, if we had an "undo" button,
    and we could go back and isolate it
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    and grab it when it first started --
    if we could find it early,
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    and we had early detection
    and early response,
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    and we could put each one
    of those viruses in jail --
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    that's the only way to deal with
    something like a pandemic.
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    And let me show you why that is.
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    We have a joke.
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    This is an epidemic curve,
    and everyone in medicine,
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    I think, ultimately gets
    to know what it is.
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    But the joke is,
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    an epidemiologist likes to arrive
    at an epidemic right here
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    and ride to glory on the downhill curve.
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    (Laughter)
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    But you don't get to do that usually.
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    You usually arrive right about here.
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    What we really want is to arrive
    right here, so we can stop the epidemic.
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    But you can't always do that.
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    But there's an organization
    that has been able to find a way
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    to learn when the first cases occur,
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    and that is called GPHIN;
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    it's the Global Public Health
    Information Network.
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    And that simulation that I showed you
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    that you thought
    was bird flu -- that was SARS.
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    And SARS is the pandemic
    that did not occur.
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    And it didn't occur
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    because GPHIN found
    the pandemic-to-be of SARS
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    three months before WHO actually
    announced it, and because of that,
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    we were able to stop the SARS pandemic.
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    And I think we owe
    a great debt of gratitude
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    to GPHIN and to Ron St. John,
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    who I hope is in the audience
    some place -- over there --
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    who's the founder of GPHIN.
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    (Applause)
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    Hello, Ron!
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    (Applause)
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    And TED has flown Ron here
    from Ottawa, where GPHIN is located,
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    because not only
    did GPHIN find SARS early,
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    but you may have seen last week
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    that Iran announced
    that they had bird flu in Iran,
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    but GPHIN found the bird flu
    in Iran not February 14 --
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    but last September.
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    We need an early-warning system
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    to protect us against the things
    that are humanity's worst nightmare.
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    And so my TED wish is based on
    the common denominator
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    of these experiences.
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    Smallpox -- early detection,
    early response.
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    Blindness, polio --
    early detection, early response.
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    Pandemic bird flu --
    early detection, early response.
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    It is a litany.
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    It is so obvious that our only way
    of dealing with these new diseases
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    is to find them early
    and to kill them before they spread.
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    So, my TED wish is for you
    to help build a global system --
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    an early-warning system --
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    to protect us against
    humanity's worst nightmares.
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    And what I thought I would call it
    is "Early Detection,"
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    But it should really be called ...
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    "Total Early Detection."
    [TED]
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    (Laughter)
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    What?
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    (Applause)
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    What?
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    (Applause)
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    But in all seriousness,
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    because this idea is birthed in TED,
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    I would like it to be
    a legacy of TED, and I'd like to call it
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    the "International System for Total
    Early Disease Detection."
  • 19:22 - 19:23
    [INSTEDD]
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    And INSTEDD then becomes our mantra.
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    So instead of a hidden
    pandemic of bird flu,
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    we find it and immediately contain it.
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    Instead of a novel virus
    caused by bio-terror or bio-error,
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    or shift or drift,
    we find it and we contain it.
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    Instead of industrial
    accidents like oil spills
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    or the catastrophe in Bhopal,
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    we find them, and we respond to them.
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    Instead of famine,
    hidden until it is too late,
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    we detect it, and we respond.
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    And instead of a system
    which is owned by a government,
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    and hidden in the bowels of government,
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    let's build an early detection system
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    that's freely available to anyone
    in the world in their own language.
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    Let's make it transparent,
    non-governmental,
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    not owned by any single
    country or company,
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    housed in a neutral country,
    with redundant backup
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    in a different time zone
    and a different continent.
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    And let's build it on GPHIN.
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    Let's start with GPHIN.
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    Let's increase the websites
    that they crawl
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    from 20,000 to 20 million.
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    Let's increase the languages they crawl
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    from seven to 70, or more.
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    Let's build in outbound
    confirmation messages,
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    using text messages or SMS
    or instant messaging
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    to find out from people
    who are within 100 meters
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    of the rumor that you hear,
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    if it is, in fact, valid.
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    And let's add satellite confirmation.
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    And we'll add Gapminder's
    amazing graphics to the front end.
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    And we'll grow it
    as a moral force in the world,
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    finding out those terrible things
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    before anybody else knows about them,
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    and sending our response to them,
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    so that next year,
    instead of us meeting here,
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    lamenting how many terrible things
    there are in the world,
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    we will have pulled together,
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    used the unique skills
    and the magic of this community,
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    and be proud that we have done
    everything we can to stop pandemics,
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    other catastrophes, and change
    the world, beginning right now.
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    (Applause)
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    Chris Anderson: An amazing presentation.
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    First of all, just so
    everyone understands:
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    you're saying that
    by creating web crawlers,
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    looking on the Internet for patterns,
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    they can detect something suspicious
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    before WHO, before anyone else can see it?
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    Give an example of how
    that could possibly be true.
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    Larry Brilliant: You're not mad
    about the copyright violation?
  • 22:26 - 22:27
    CA: No. I love it.
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    (Laughter)
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    LB: Well, as Ron St. John --
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    I hope you'll go and meet him
    in the dinner afterwards and talk to him.
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    When he started GPHIN --
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    In 1997, there was an outbreak
    of bird flu -- H5N1.
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    It was in Hong Kong.
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    And a remarkable doctor in Hong Kong
    responded immediately,
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    by slaughtering 1.5 million
    chickens and birds,
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    and they stopped
    that outbreak in its tracks.
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    Immediate detection, immediate response.
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    Then a number of years went by,
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    and there were a lot
    of rumors about bird flu.
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    Ron and his team in Ottawa
    began to crawl the web --
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    only crawling 20,000 different websites,
    mostly periodicals --
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    and they read about
    and heard about a concern,
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    of a lot of children who had high fever
    and symptoms of bird flu.
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    They reported this to WHO.
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    WHO took a little while taking action,
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    because WHO will only receive
    a report from a government,
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    because it's the United Nations.
  • 23:29 - 23:33
    But they were able to point
    to WHO and let them know
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    that there was this surprising
    and unexplained cluster of illnesses
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    that looked like bird flu.
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    That turned out to be SARS.
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    That's how the world found out about SARS.
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    And because of that,
    we were able to stop SARS.
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    Now, what's really important is that,
    before there was GPHIN,
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    100 percent of all the world's
    reports of bad things --
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    whether you're talking about famine
  • 23:56 - 23:59
    or you're talking about bird flu
    or you're talking about Ebola --
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    100 percent of all those reports
    came from nations.
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    The moment these guys in Ottawa --
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    on a budget of 800,000 dollars
    a year -- got cracking,
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    75 percent of all the reports
    in the world came from GPHIN,
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    25 percent of all the reports in the world
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    came from all the other 180 nations.
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    Now, here's what's really interesting:
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    after they'd been working
    for a couple years,
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    what do you think happened
    to those nations?
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    They felt pretty stupid.
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    So they started sending in
    their reports early.
  • 24:29 - 24:33
    And now, their reporting percentage
    is down to 50 percent,
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    because other nations
    have started to report.
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    So, can you find diseases
    early by crawling the web?
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    Of course you can.
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    Can you find it even earlier
    than GPHIN does now?
  • 24:44 - 24:45
    Of course you can.
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    You saw that they found SARS
    using their Chinese web crawler
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    a full six weeks before they found it
    using their English web crawler.
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    Well, they're only crawling
    in seven languages.
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    These bad viruses really
    don't have any intention
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    of showing up first in English
    or Spanish or French.
  • 25:02 - 25:04
    (Laughter)
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    So yes, I want to take GPHIN,
    I want to build on it.
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    I want to add all the languages
    of the world that we possibly can.
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    I want to make this open to everybody,
  • 25:15 - 25:18
    so that the health officer
    in Nairobi or in Patna, Bihar
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    will have as much access to it
    as the folks in Ottawa or in CDC.
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    And I want to make it part of our culture
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    that there is a community of people
    who are watching out
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    for the worst nightmares of humanity,
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    and that it's accessible to everyone.
Title:
My wish: Help me stop pandemics
Speaker:
Larry Brilliant
Description:

Accepting the 2006 TED Prize, Dr. Larry Brilliant talks about how smallpox was eradicated from the planet, and calls for a new global system that can identify and contain pandemics before they spread.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
25:33
  • The English transcript was updated on October 8, 2015.

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