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Mental Disorders as Brain Disorders: Thomas Insel at TEDxCaltech

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    This is the first time I've ever
    followed Pinky the Mouse.
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    (Laughter)
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    If nothing else should tell you
    that science can be fun,
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    science can be counter-intuitive,
    science can blow your mind,
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    and what I'm going to do
    in the next few minutes
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    is to tell you
    that science can also save lives.
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    So let's start with some good news.
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    And the good news has to do with
    what we know based on biomedical research
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    that actually has changed the outcomes
    for many very serious diseases.
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    Start with Leukemia,
    acute lymphoblastic leukemia, ALL,
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    the most common cancer of children.
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    When I was a student,
    the mortality rate was about 95%.
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    Today, some 25, 30 years later,
    we are talking about
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    a mortality rate is reduced by 85%.
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    Six thousand children each year
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    who would have previously
    died of this disease are cured.
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    If you want the really big numbers,
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    look at the numbers for heart disease.
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    Heart disease used to be
    the biggest killer
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    particularly men in their 40s.
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    Today we've seen a 63% reduction
    in mortality from heart disease.
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    Remarkably 1.1 million deaths
    averted every year.
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    AIDS, incredibly
    has just been named
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    in the past month a chronic disease,
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    meaning that a 20 years old
    who becomes infected with HIV
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    is expected not to live weeks,
    months or a couple of years,
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    as we said only a decade ago,
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    but is thought to live for decades,
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    probably to die in his 60s or 70s
    from other causes altogether.
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    These are just remarkable,
    remarkable changes,
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    in the outlook of some
    of the biggest killers.
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    One in particular that
    you probably wouldn't know about,
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    stroke, which has been,
    along with heart disease,
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    one of the biggest killers in the country
    along with cancer,
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    is a disease we know now
    if you can get people into the hospital,
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    into the emergency room
    within three hours of the onset,
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    some 30% of them will leave the hospital
    without any disabilities whatsoever.
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    Remarkable stories, good news stories,
    all of which boil down to
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    understanding something about the diseases
    that has allowed us
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    to detect early and intervene early.
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    Early detection and early intervention.
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    That's the story for these successes
    across the board.
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    And it tells you how biomedical research
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    can really change the picture
    for millions and millions of people.
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    Unfortunately the news is not all good.
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    Let's talk about one other story
    which has to do with suicide.
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    Now this is of course
    not a disease per se.
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    It's a condition or a situation
    that leads to mortality.
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    Which you may not realize
    is how prevalent it is today.
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    There are 38,000 suicides each year
    in the United States.
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    That means one in about 15 minutes.
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    The third most common cause of death
    among people between ages of 15 and 25.
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    It's kind of an extraordinary story
    when you realize
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    that this is twice as common as homicide,
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    and actually more common
    as a source of death
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    than traffic fatalities in this country.
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    Now when we talk about suicide,
    there is also a medical contribution here.
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    Because 90% of suicides
    are related to a mental illness,
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    depression, bipolar disorder,
    schizophrenia,
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    anorexia, borderline personality,
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    there's a long list of disorders
    that contribute,
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    and as I mentioned before,
    often early in life.
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    And it's not just the mortality
    from these disorders.
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    It's also morbidity.
    If you look at disability,
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    here as measured
    by the World Health Organization,
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    something they called
    "Disability Adjusted Life Years."
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    It's kind of a metric
    that nobody would think of
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    except an economist.
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    Except it's one way
    of trying to capture what is lost
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    in terms of disability
    from medical causes.
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    And as you can see virtually 30%
    of all disabilities
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    from all medical causes
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    can be attributed to mental disorders
    or neuro psychiatric syndromes.
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    You're probably thinking
    that doesn't make any sense.
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    I mean cancer seems far more serious.
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    Heart disease seems far more serious.
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    But you can see actually they're
    further down this list.
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    That is because
    we are talking about disability.
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    What drives disability
    for these disorders like
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    schizophrenia and
    bipolar disorder and depression?
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    Why are they number one here?
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    Probably there are three reasons.
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    One is that they're highly prevalent.
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    About one in five people will suffer
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    from one of these disorders
    in the course of their life time.
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    The second of course is that
    for some people
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    these become truly disabling.
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    It's about 4 to 5%,
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    that's one in 20, are truly disabled
    by one of these illnesses.
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    But what really drives these numbers,
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    this high morbidity and
    to some extent the high mortality,
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    is the fact that
    these start very early in life.
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    Fifty percent will have onset
    by age 14, 75% by age 24.
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    A picture that is very different
    from that what one would see
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    if we are talking about cancer
    or heart disease, diabetes, hypertension,
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    most of the major illnesses
    that we think about,
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    as being sources
    of mobility and mortality.
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    These are indeed the chronic disorders
    of young people.
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    Now I started by telling you
    that there are some good news stories.
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    This is obviously not one of them.
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    This is the part of what is,
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    perhaps the most difficult since
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    this is kind of confession for me.
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    My job is to actually make sure
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    that we make progress
    on all of these disorders,
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    because I work for the Federal Government.
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    I actually work for you.
    You pay my salary.
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    Maybe at this point,
    when you know what I do
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    or maybe what I've failed to do,
    you'll think I probably ought to be fired.
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    I could certainly understand that.
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    But what I want to suggest,
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    and the reason I am here is to tell you
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    that I think we are about to be
    in a very different world
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    as we think about these illnesses.
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    And that is, to some extent,
    going to be dependent
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    on the work you'll hear about today.
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    That's going to be really exciting,
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    technically truly transformative.
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    But the point I want to make is that
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    the most important transformation here
    is a conceptual one.
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    What I've been
    talking to you about so far
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    is mental disorders, diseases of the mind.
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    That's actually becoming a rather
    unpopular term these days.
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    And people feel that,
    for whatever the reason,
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    it's politically better to use the term
    "behavioral disorders",
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    and to talk about these
    as disorders of behavior.
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    Fair enough,
    they are disorders of behavior
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    and they are disorders of the mind.
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    But what I want to suggest to you
    is that both of those terms
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    which have been in play
    for a century or more,
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    are actually now
    impediments to progress.
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    That what we need conceptually
    to make a progress here
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    is to rethink these disorders
    as brain disorders.
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    Now some of you are going to say,
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    "Oh my goodness. Here we go again,
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    We are going to hear about
    biochemical imbalance.
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    We are going to hear about drugs.
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    We are going to hear about
    some very simplistic notion,
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    that will take our subjective experience
    and turn it into molecules,
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    or maybe into some sort of very flat
    uni-dimensional understanding
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    of what it is to have
    depression or schizophrenia."
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    Over the course of the day
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    you are going to hear
    that when we talk about the brain
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    it is anything but uni-dimensional,
    or simplistic or reductionistic.
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    It depends, of course, on what scale
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    or what scope you think about.
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    But this is an organ
    of surreal complexity.
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    And we are just beginning to understand,
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    how to even study it,
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    whether you are thinking about
    a hundred billion neurons in the cortex
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    or a hundred trillion synapses
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    that make up all the connections.
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    We have just begun to try to figure out
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    how we take this very complex machine
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    that does extraordinary kinds
    of information processing
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    and use our own minds
    to understand the very complex brain
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    that supports it,
    that supports our own mind.
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    It's actually kind of cruel
    trick of evolution
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    that we simply don't have a brain
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    that seems to be wired well enough
    to understand itself.
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    But we are making progress,
    and because of some of the technologies
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    you hear about today,
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    we are actually able to begin
    to string this together.
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    In a sense it actually makes you feel that
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    when you are in a safe zone studying
    behavior and cognition,
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    something you can observe,
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    that in a way feels
    more simplistic and reductionistic
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    than trying to engage this very complex
    and mysterious organ
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    that we are beginning
    to try to understand.
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    Now already in a case
    of the brain disorders
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    that I've been talking to you about,
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    depression, obsessive compulsive disorder,
    post traumatic stress disorder,
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    we don't have an in-depth understanding
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    of how they are abnormally processed
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    or what the brain is doing
    in those illnesses.
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    We've been able to already identify
    some of the connectional differences.
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    Some of the ways of which
    the circuitry is different
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    for people who have these disorders.
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    We call this the "Human Connectome."
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    You can think about Connectome,
    as the wiring diagram of the brain.
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    You'll hear more about it
    in a few minutes.
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    The important piece here is
    that as you begin to look
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    at people who have these disorders,
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    the one in five of us
    who struggle in some way,
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    you'll find that there's
    a lot of variation
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    in the way the brain is wired
    but there are some predictable patterns.
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    Those patterns are risk factors
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    for developing one of these disorders.
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    It's a little different than
    the way we think about brain disorders
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    like Huntington's, Parkinson’s
    or Alzheimer's disease
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    where you have a bombed out
    part of your cortex.
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    Here we are talking about traffic jams
    or sometimes detours
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    or sometimes problems with
    just the way things are connected
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    and the way the brain functions,
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    you could if you want
    compare this to,
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    on the one hand,
    a myocardial infarction - a heart attack
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    where you have dead tissue in the heart
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    versus arrhythmia where
    the organ simply isn't functioning
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    because of the communication problems
    within it.
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    Either one would kill you,
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    and in only one of them
    will you find a major lesion.
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    As we think about this,
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    maybe it's better to actually go
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    a little deeper
    into one particular disorder.
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    That would be schizophrenia.
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    I think that's a good case
    for helping to understand
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    why thinking of this
    as a brain disorder matters.
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    Schizophrenia is a disorder
    that generally comes on by
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    in terms of the psychotic symptoms,
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    which is the way we diagnose it,
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    delusions, hallucination,
    problems with thinking
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    problems with attention,
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    generally around age of 18 to 22, 23, 24.
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    These are scans from Judie Rapoport
    and her colleagues
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    at the National Institute
    of Mental Health,
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    in which they studied children
    with very early onset schizophrenia.
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    And you can see already
    in the top there are areas
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    that are red, orange and yellow,
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    there's places with less gray matter.
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    And as they follow them over 5 years
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    comparing them
    to age-match controls,
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    you can see that, particularly in areas
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    like the dorsal lateral prefrontal cortex
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    or the superior temporal gyrus,
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    there is a profound loss of gray matter.
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    This is important.
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    It's important if you try to model this.
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    You can think about
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    normal development
    as a loss of cortical mass,
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    loss of cortical gray matter.
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    What's happening in schizophrenia
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    is that you overshoot that mark
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    and at some point
    when you overshoot
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    you cross a threshold,
    and it's that threshold
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    where we say
    this is a person who has this disease
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    because they have the behavioral symptoms,
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    of hallucinations and delusions.
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    That's something we can observe.
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    But look at this closely.
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    You can see that actually
    they've crossed a different threshold.
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    They crossed a brain threshold
    much earlier.
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    That perhaps not at the age 22 or 20
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    but even by age 15 or 16,
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    you can begin to see that the trajectory
    for development is quite different
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    at the level of the brain
    not at the level of behavior.
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    Why does this matter?
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    Well first because for brain disorders,
    behavior is the last thing to change.
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    We know that for Alzheimer's,
    Parkinson's, for Huntington's.
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    There are changes in the brain
    a decade or more
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    before you see the first signs
    of a behavioral change.
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    The tools we have, and you'll hear
    much more about this
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    in the course of the day,
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    they are getting better every year,
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    now allow us to detect
    these brain changes much earlier,
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    long before the symptoms emerge.
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    But most importantly,
    go back to where we started.
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    The good news stories in medicine
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    are early detection, early intervention.
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    If we waited until the heart attack
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    we would be sacrificing 1.1 million lives
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    every year in this country
    to heart disease.
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    That is precisely what we do today.
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    When we decide that everybody
    with one of these brain disorders,
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    brain circuit disorders,
    has a behavioral disorder
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    we wait until the behavior
    becomes manifest.
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    That's not early detection.
    That's not early intervention.
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    Now to be clear,
    we are not quite ready to do this.
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    We don't have all the facts.
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    We don't actually even know
    what the tools would be
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    nor what to precisely look for
    in every case.
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    to be able to get there
    before the behavior emerges as different.
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    But this tells us how we need
    to think about it and where we need to go.
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    Are we going to be there soon?
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    I think that this is something
    that will happen
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    over the course of the next few years
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    but I'd like to finish with the quote
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    about trying to predict
    how this will happen,
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    by somebody who's thought a lot
    about changes
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    in concepts
    and changes in technology.
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    "We always overestimate the change
    that will occur in the next two years
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    and underestimate the change
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    that will occur in the next ten." Bill Gates.
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    Thanks very much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Mental Disorders as Brain Disorders: Thomas Insel at TEDxCaltech
Description:

Thomas Insel M.D. tells us in this talk that we need to change how we view mental illnesses and the earlier preventive treatments, before brain disorders manifest as psychiatric disorders, could be used to save the lives of people with mental illnesses.

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15:06
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