My father, the forgerer | Sarah Kaminsky | TEDxParis
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0:19 - 0:22Hello.
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0:22 - 0:25I am the daughter of a forgerer.
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0:25 - 0:26Not any forgerer.
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0:26 - 0:29When you hear the word "forgerer",
you often understand "mercenary", -
0:30 - 0:33you understand "forged currency",
"forged pictures". -
0:33 - 0:35My father is no such man.
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0:35 - 0:39During 30 years of his life,
he made forged documents. -
0:39 - 0:41Never for himself,
always for other people. -
0:41 - 0:45And to come to the aid
of the persecuted and the oppressed. -
0:45 - 0:48Let me introduce him.
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0:48 - 0:51Here is my father at the age of 19.
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0:51 - 0:55It all began for him during World War II,
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0:55 - 0:59when aged 17 he was catapulted
into a forged documents workshop. -
0:59 - 1:03He quickly became the forged
documents expert of the Resistance. -
1:03 - 1:05And it is no banal story,
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1:05 - 1:12for after the liberation, he continued
to make forged documents until the '70s. -
1:12 - 1:19And when I was a child
I knew nothing about this, of course. -
1:19 - 1:23This is me, in the middle,
the one who's pulling faces. -
1:23 - 1:29I grew up in the Paris suburbs
and I was the youngest of three children. -
1:29 - 1:33And I had a "normal" dad,
well, like everybody else, -
1:33 - 1:37apart from he fact
that he was 30 years older than... -
1:37 - 1:40well, he was basically, old enough
to be my grandfather. -
1:40 - 1:43Anyway, he was a photographer
and a street educator, -
1:43 - 1:46and he always taught us
to obey the law very strictly. -
1:46 - 1:50And, of course, he never talked about
his past life when he was a forgerer. -
1:50 - 1:53There was, however, an incident
I'm going to tell you about, -
1:53 - 1:56that perhaps could have made me
suspect something. -
1:56 - 2:01I was at high school and got
a bad mark, a rare event for me, -
2:01 - 2:04anyway, I decided to hide it
from my parents. -
2:04 - 2:08In order to do that, I set out
to forge their signature. -
2:08 - 2:10I started working
on my mother's signature, -
2:10 - 2:13for my father's is
absolutely impossible to forge. -
2:13 - 2:17So, I got working:
I took some sheets of paper -
2:17 - 2:19and started training,
and training and training, -
2:20 - 2:22until I reached what I thought
was a good hand, -
2:22 - 2:24and went into action.
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2:24 - 2:26Later, while checking my satchel,
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2:26 - 2:28my mother got hold
of my school assignment -
2:28 - 2:30and immediately saw
that the signature was forged. -
2:30 - 2:32She told me off like she never had,
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2:32 - 2:35I went hiding into my bedroom,
hiding under the blankets, -
2:35 - 2:38and then I waited for my father
to come back from work. -
2:38 - 2:42In a very apprehensive state
I heard him come in, -
2:42 - 2:45I remained under the blankets;
he entered my room, -
2:45 - 2:46sat on the corner of the bed,
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2:46 - 2:50and he was silent, so I pulled
the blanket from my head, -
2:50 - 2:53and when he saw me he started laughing,
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2:53 - 2:55he was laughing so hard,
he could not stop, -
2:55 - 2:57and he was holding
my assignment in his hand, -
2:57 - 2:59and then he said, "But really, Sarah,
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2:59 - 3:02you could have worked harder,
can't you see it's really too small?" -
3:02 - 3:04Indeed, it's rather small.
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3:07 - 3:09I was born in Algeria.
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3:09 - 3:12There I would hear people say
my father was a "moudjahid"; -
3:12 - 3:14it means "fighter".
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3:14 - 3:19And later on, in France, I loved
eavesdropping on grown ups' conversations, -
3:19 - 3:23and I would hear all sort of stories
on the previous life of my father, -
3:23 - 3:26and especially that he had "done"
the Second World War -
3:26 - 3:28that he had "done" the Algerian war.
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3:28 - 3:32And in my head I would be thinking
that "doing" a war meant being a soldier. -
3:32 - 3:34And knowing my father,
and that he would always be saying -
3:34 - 3:36that he was a pacifist and non-violent,
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3:36 - 3:39I found it very hard to picture him
with a helmet and a gun. -
3:39 - 3:42And indeed, I was very far from the mark.
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3:42 - 3:44One day, while my father
was working on a file -
3:44 - 3:46for us to obtain French nationality,
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3:46 - 3:50I happened to see some documents
that caught my attention. -
3:50 - 3:55These are real ones!
These are mine, I was born an Argentinian. -
3:55 - 3:58But the documents I happened to see
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3:58 - 4:00and that would help make
a case for the authorities -
4:00 - 4:02was a document from the army
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4:02 - 4:07that thanked my father for his work
on behalf of the secret services. -
4:07 - 4:11And then, suddenly, I went "wow"!
Mm... My father a secret agent? -
4:11 - 4:14It was very James Bond, really...
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4:14 - 4:18And I was pushed to ask him questions,
to which he did not answer. -
4:19 - 4:24And later, I told myself that after all
one day I would have to question him. -
4:24 - 4:27And then, time went by
and I did not ask any question. -
4:27 - 4:29And I became a mother and had a son
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4:29 - 4:33and finally decided the time was ripe,
he absolutely had to talk to us. -
4:33 - 4:37Now, I had become a mother,
and he was celebrating his 77th birthday -
4:37 - 4:39and suddenly I was very, very afraid.
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4:39 - 4:42I feared he'd go
and take his silences with him, -
4:42 - 4:45and take his secrets with him.
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4:45 - 4:47And I managed to convince him
that it was important for us -
4:47 - 4:50but possibly also for other people,
that he shared his story. -
4:50 - 4:53He resolved to tell it to me
and I made a book, -
4:53 - 4:56of which I'm going to read
some excerpts to you later. -
4:56 - 4:59Well now, his story.
My father was born in Argentina. -
4:59 - 5:02His parents were of Russian descent.
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5:02 - 5:05And the whole family came
to settle in France in the '30s. -
5:05 - 5:10His parents were Jewish,
Russian, and mainly very poor. -
5:10 - 5:13So at the age of 14,
my father had to work. -
5:13 - 5:16And with his only diploma,
and his primary education certificate, -
5:16 - 5:19he found himself working
at a dyer - dry cleaner. -
5:19 - 5:22And there is where he discovered
something wholly magic for him, -
5:22 - 5:24and when he talks about,
it it's fascinating; -
5:24 - 5:26that's the magic of dyeing chemistry.
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5:26 - 5:28In those times there was the war
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5:28 - 5:31and his mother was assassinated
when he was 15. -
5:31 - 5:33And this coincided with the time
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5:33 - 5:35when he threw himself
body and soul into chemistry, -
5:35 - 5:38for it was the only consolation
for his sadness. -
5:38 - 5:41All day he would ask plenty
of questions to his boss -
5:41 - 5:44to learn, to accumulate
more and more knowledge, -
5:44 - 5:48and at night, when no one was looking,
he'd put his experience to the test, -
5:48 - 5:52and he was mostly interested
in ink bleaching. -
5:52 - 5:58All this to tell you that if my father
became a forgerer, actually, -
5:58 - 6:01it was almost by chance.
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6:01 - 6:03They were Jewish, and hounded.
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6:03 - 6:07Finally the whole family was arrested
and taken to the Drancy camp -
6:07 - 6:10and they manged to get out in extremis
thanks to their Argentinian papers. -
6:10 - 6:13But, they were out,
but they were always in danger. -
6:13 - 6:15The big "Jew" stamp
was still on their papers. -
6:15 - 6:18It was his father who decided
they needed false documents. -
6:18 - 6:21And my father had been instilled
with such respect of the law -
6:21 - 6:25that although he was being persecuted,
he'd never thought of false papers. -
6:25 - 6:28He was the one who went
to meet the men of the Resistance. -
6:28 - 6:32In those times documents had
hard covers, they were filled in by hand, -
6:32 - 6:34and they stated your job.
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6:34 - 6:37In order to survive,
he needed to be working. -
6:37 - 6:40He asked that man to put "dyer".
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6:40 - 6:43And suddenly the man
looked very, very interested. -
6:43 - 6:47How comes "dyer", do you know
how to bleach ink marks? -
6:47 - 6:49Of course he knew.
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6:49 - 6:51And suddenly, the man starts explaining
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6:51 - 6:54how, actually, the whole Resistance
has an enormous problem: -
6:54 - 6:59for even the top experts cannot manage
to bleach an ink, called "indelible", -
6:59 - 7:02Watermann blue ink.
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7:02 - 7:06And my father immediately replies
that he knows exactly how to bleach it. -
7:06 - 7:10Now, of course, the man was
most impressed with this young man of 17 -
7:10 - 7:13who can immediately give
the formula, so he recruits him. -
7:13 - 7:17And actually, without knowing it,
my father had invented something -
7:17 - 7:20we can find in every
schoolchild's pencil case, -
7:20 - 7:22the so called "correction pen".
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7:22 - 7:25(Applause)
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7:28 - 7:30But it was only the beginning.
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7:30 - 7:32Actually,
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7:32 - 7:34- that's my father, always -
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7:34 - 7:38as soon as he got to the workshop,
and though he was the youngest, -
7:38 - 7:41he immediately saw there was a problem
with the making of forged documents. -
7:41 - 7:44All the movements stopped at forging.
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7:44 - 7:46Only the demand was ever growing
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7:46 - 7:49and it was difficult
to temper existing documents. -
7:49 - 7:51He told himself
it was necessary to make them. -
7:51 - 7:54He started the press.
He started photo-engraving. -
7:54 - 7:57He started making rubber stamps
he started inventing all kind of things, -
7:57 - 8:00with some stuff he invented
a centrifuge with a bicycle wheel. -
8:00 - 8:02Anyway, he had to do all this
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8:02 - 8:04for he was completely
obsessed with output. -
8:04 - 8:06He had made a simple calculation:
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8:06 - 8:10in 1 hour he could make
30 forged documents. -
8:10 - 8:14If he slept 1 hour, 30 people would die.
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8:14 - 8:18So much so that this
sense of responsibility -
8:18 - 8:21for other people's lives
when he was just 17, -
8:21 - 8:24and also his guilt for being a survivor,
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8:24 - 8:27since he had escaped the camp
when his friends had not, -
8:27 - 8:29is still with him.
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8:29 - 8:32And this is maybe what explains
that, for 30 years, -
8:32 - 8:33he continued to make forged documents
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8:34 - 8:37in spite of all sacrifices.
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8:37 - 8:39I would like to mention the sacrifices
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8:39 - 8:40because they were quite a few.
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8:40 - 8:43There have obviously been
economic sacrifices: -
8:43 - 8:45because he has always refused to be paid.
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8:45 - 8:47because for him getting paid
meant to be a mercenary. -
8:47 - 8:49Because if he accepted to be paid
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8:49 - 8:51he could no longer say,
"yes" or "no" -
8:51 - 8:54depending on whether the cause seemed
the right one or not. -
8:54 - 8:58So he was a photographer during the day,
and a forger at night for 30 years -
8:58 - 8:59and broke all the time.
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9:00 - 9:02And then there were the
emotional sacrifices: -
9:02 - 9:04how to live with a woman
while having so many secrets? -
9:04 - 9:07How to explain what he was going to do
in the laboratory, -
9:07 - 9:08every night?
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9:08 - 9:11Obviously, there has been
another type of sacrifice, -
9:11 - 9:15the family, and I understood that later.
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9:15 - 9:18One day my father
introduced me to my sister, -
9:18 - 9:22and besides, he also explained
to me that I had a brother too. -
9:22 - 9:26And the first time I saw them,
I was about 3-4 years, -
9:26 - 9:30they were 30 years older than I was.
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9:30 - 9:33Today, they are both in their 60s.
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9:33 - 9:39Because I was writing a book
I also interviewed my sister, -
9:39 - 9:44and I wanted to know who my father was,
who was the father she had known? -
9:44 - 9:46She explained to me
that father that she had -
9:46 - 9:51was someone who would come
to pick them for a Sunday walk. -
9:51 - 9:55they were all nicely dressed
and ready, they were waiting, -
9:55 - 9:57and that he almost never came.
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9:57 - 10:00That he would say, "I'll call you."
But that he never did. -
10:00 - 10:01And then he did not come.
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10:01 - 10:04And then one day,
he just disappeared. -
10:04 - 10:06And then time passed,
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10:06 - 10:10and they thought
that he had surely forgotten them, -
10:10 - 10:11all together.
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10:11 - 10:15And then, as time passed,
after almost two years, they thought: -
10:15 - 10:18"It’s possible that our father is dead."
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10:18 - 10:19And actually I understood
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10:19 - 10:23that I have so many questions
for my father -
10:23 - 10:26but that removing all this past
that he might not want to talk about -
10:26 - 10:27could be painful.
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10:27 - 10:32While my half-sister and my half-brother
believed themselves abandoned, -
10:32 - 10:33or maybe orphans,
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10:33 - 10:35my father was making false documents.
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10:35 - 10:39And if he did not tell them anything,
it was to protect them, the course. -
10:39 - 10:40After liberation, he forged papers
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10:41 - 10:43to allow the survivors
of the concentration camps -
10:43 - 10:46to immigrate to Palestine,
before the creation of Israel. -
10:46 - 10:48And then, as he was a staunch
anti-colonialist, -
10:48 - 10:51he forged papers for Algerians
during the Algerian war. -
10:51 - 10:53And then, after the war in Algeria,
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10:53 - 10:56within the International
Movement for Resistance -
10:56 - 10:58his name was circulating.
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10:58 - 11:01And the whole world has come
knocking at his door. -
11:01 - 11:04In Africa, there were countries
who fought for their independence. -
11:04 - 11:07Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Angola.
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11:07 - 11:11And my father had links
to Nelson Mandela's anti-apartheid party. -
11:12 - 11:14He made false papers
for the persecuted black South African. -
11:14 - 11:16There was also Latin America.
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11:16 - 11:20My father helped
resistance movements against dictatorships -
11:20 - 11:22in Santo Domingo, Haiti,
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11:22 - 11:25and then in Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela,
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11:25 - 11:29Salvador, Nicaragua,
Colombia, Peru, -
11:29 - 11:32Uruguay, Chile and Mexico.
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11:32 - 11:35And then there was the Vietnam War.
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11:35 - 11:37My father made false papers
for American deserters -
11:37 - 11:40who did not want to raise in arms
against the Vietnamese. -
11:40 - 11:42And Europe was not spared either.
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11:42 - 11:45My father made false papers for those
dissidents against Franco, in Spain, -
11:45 - 11:47against Salazar in Portugal,
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11:48 - 11:51against the dictatorship
of the colonels in Greece. -
11:51 - 11:53And even in France;
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11:53 - 11:57Only once and it was in May of '68.
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11:57 - 12:00My father watched
with good will, of course, -
12:00 - 12:04the demonstrations that took place in May,
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12:04 - 12:07but his heart was elsewhere,
and so was its time, -
12:07 - 12:10since he was to serve
more than 15 countries. -
12:10 - 12:13Once, however, he agreed
to make false papers -
12:13 - 12:15for someone you go
perhaps recognize. -
12:15 - 12:17(Laughter)
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12:18 - 12:20He was much younger then.
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12:20 - 12:22and my father accepted to forge his papers
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12:22 - 12:24to enable him to return
and speak at a meeting. -
12:24 - 12:27And he told me
that these forged papers there, -
12:27 - 12:30were the most famous ones in the media
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12:30 - 12:33but the least useful ones
that he forged in his entire life. -
12:33 - 12:34but he agreed to do so
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12:34 - 12:38although the life of Daniel Cohn-Bendit
was not in danger, -
12:38 - 12:41but because it was a great opportunity
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12:41 - 12:43to mock the authorities
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12:43 - 12:47and show them that there was nothing
more porous than borders -
12:47 - 12:51and that they had no idea about it.
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12:53 - 12:55All my childhood,
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12:55 - 12:58while the other dads told
Grimm stories to my friends, -
12:58 - 13:02my father told me
very discreet hero stories, -
13:02 - 13:05full of unshakeable utopias
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13:05 - 13:08where even wonders took place.
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13:08 - 13:12And those heroes did not need
an army behind them, -
13:12 - 13:15and in fact, not everyone would follow
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13:15 - 13:19except a handful of men and women
full of conviction and courage. -
13:19 - 13:20And I understood later on
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13:20 - 13:24that the story he was telling be before
I went to bed was his own story. -
13:24 - 13:26I asked him if, in the light
of the sacrifices he had to make, -
13:27 - 13:28he has ever had any regrets.
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13:28 - 13:29He said no.
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13:29 - 13:31He said that anyway
he would have been unable -
13:32 - 13:36to witness, or to watch injustice
happening without doing anything. -
13:36 - 13:38He was persuaded and he's still convinced
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13:38 - 13:40that another world is possible,
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13:40 - 13:43a world where nobody
would ever need a forger. -
13:43 - 13:45He's still dreaming about it.
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13:45 - 13:48My father is here today in this room.
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13:48 - 13:52His name is Adolfo Kaminsky,
and I will ask him to stand up. -
13:52 - 13:54(Applause)
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14:10 - 14:11Thank you.
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14:11 - 14:13(Applause)
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14:14 - 14:15Thank you.
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14:15 - 14:18(Applause)
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14:18 - 14:21Sit down, sit down, please take a seat.
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14:21 - 14:23(Applause)
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14:23 - 14:26(Standing ovations)
- Title:
- My father, the forgerer | Sarah Kaminsky | TEDxParis
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
Sarah Kaminsky talks about the life of his father who was a forger during and after World War II.
- Video Language:
- French
- Team:
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- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 14:46
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