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FOT21 - Tom Craig, Nuna& Robert Update on Isaiah 19 from Lebanon

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    I want to welcome you to
    this specialization, a teen
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    seminar about Lebanon. My
    name is Tom Craig, I'm the
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    Middle East coordinator with
    ice J. And we're happy to
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    have a couple friends from
    Beirut, Lebanon to share in
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    this time as we talk about
    the situation in Lebanon. So
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    I want to welcome Nuna. And
    Robert, they're good long
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    term friends that we've
    known for many years. And
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    they and their families have
    been having a great impact
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    in Lebanon in the city of
    Beirut, and along the Isaiah
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    19 Highway for many, many
    years. So I value their
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    friendship and deeply value,
    what they're going to be
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    sharing with us today to
    give us a current update on
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    what's happening in Lebanon.
    And we hope that you'll take
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    these points that we're
    going to share and talk
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    about, and turn them into
    prayer for Lebanon, because
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    it's really an a critical
    time and situation as a
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    country. And this is a great
    opportunity to hear from
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    them and turn those things
    into prayer. So welcome,
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    Nuna. And, Robert, it's
    great to have you with me on
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    this seminar today before
    the Feast of Tabernacles.
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    conference coming up. And
    yeah, welcome. Thank you.
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    Thank you. So I think what
    would be helpful is if both
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    of you could just share in
    your own way, how you view
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    Lebanon has gotten to the
    situation it's in right now
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    I know, it's probably a long
    term process that has been
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    going on. But maybe just the
    more recent history or days,
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    what are the things that
    have been happening are
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    what's led Lebanon into such
    a crisis? At this point? Can
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    you give us more background
    on on how that's happened?
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    And and kind of walk us
    through that?
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    Why have you good in
    history, so you should do
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    the history, I thought,
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    well, first of all the
    senator in some area, to all
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    of you in Jerusalem, and who
    are following the Feast of
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    Tabernacles via zoom. It's
    wonderful to be able to
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    share in this way. We there
    are many reasons to why we
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    arrived at the situation
    that we're at now. And the
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    problem is it. It may take
    too much time giving all the
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    reasons as to why we have a
    failed state. Essentially,
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    we are similar to what
    Venezuela is going through
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    right now. Banks and Lebanon
    attracted dollars by
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    offering sky high interest
    rates. So people were
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    sending their dollars to
    Lebanon, and getting very
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    high percentages that you
    couldn't find anywhere else.
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    It's called a Ponzi scheme.
    So eventually, it collapsed.
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    Now there were two things
    that I remember that led to
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    this one is September of
    2019, the prime minister who
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    had been urging this side
    hobby to tighten our fiscal
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    belts, himself was found out
    to have paid millions of
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    dollars to a South African
    lady a model to have
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    relations with her. That was
    September then in October,
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    the government said they're
    going to tax WhatsApp
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    because the government
    needed more revenue. And
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    that those two things one
    were a prime minister who's
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    telling us to tighten our
    belts financially. And then
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    the WhatsApp tax led to
    October 17 Intifada or
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    uprising Lebanese uprising.
    So that that's very talking
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    very basically very
    generally, in after the
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    uprising of October 17. We
    had the slowdown of the
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    economy which was followed
    by the collapse of the
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    Lebanese currency called the
    lira followed by COVID and
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    COVID lockdowns and then as
    you all know the explosion
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    actually there were two
    explosions of August 4 of
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    last year. 2020. So that's
    just by way of introduction,
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    events that came one after
    the other. And I think there
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    is a also an international
    feel to it. I think this all
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    spring, Arab Spring
    everywhere didn't exclude
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    Lebanon. So it's it's just a
    series of events that's
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    happening in the whole
    Middle East. It's not just
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    Lebanon, it's something that
    is that is cooked out
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    somewhere, we don't know
    where and we don't know who
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    that is cooking something in
    the Middle East to just this
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    is a, a burning pots here is
    a it's a place that could
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    explode at any moment. And
    it has been exploding. So if
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    you include what's happening
    in Syria, what's happening
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    in Jordan, what's happening
    in Iraq, in Turkey, in
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    Lebanon, in Egypt, and in
    all these regions,
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    everything happens
    simultaneously. So I think
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    it has more like an
    international feel to it
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    than just a national. So
    yes, we do have our own
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    problems and our own
    corruption and our own
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    things. But it's also bigger
    than us. And it's, it's a
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    plot to change the, the
    landscape of the Middle
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    East. I think
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    that's very interesting. So
    you see, and I would imagine
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    that you both realize that
    there's great influences
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    affecting Lebanon from other
    nations around the Middle
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    East. And this is how so
    having impact on the society
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    and the economy there.
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    Okay, do you want me to go
    into a little bit more
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    details or who should
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    know feel free?
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    Okay, I feel free. You know,
    this, the whole thing in the
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    whole Middle East is a power
    is a balance of powers. So
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    it's a Sunni Shiite power.
    So I would think that when
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    the when the sheriff power
    goes too strong, then these
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    powers that are working in
    behind the scenes are just
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    helping all the Sunni power
    to just rise stronger. And
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    when the Sunni says powers
    go stronger than we have the
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    shade power goes stronger.
    So it's always an
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    equilibrium of power. And
    this is how I see it. So I
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    see that now, when ISIS was
    there. The rise of ISIS all
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    these times, suddenly the
    shades power started to
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    rise, because the ISIS was
    too strong. The sheriff
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    power started to rise, and
    to come into the play
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    against the ISIS power. And
    it was just, you know, just
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    increasing. So it increased
    into Lebanon increase into
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    Yemen, it's increased into,
    into Iraq into Syria. So
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    it's increased. Now the
    shape power is a bit too
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    strong. So now we have a
    resurgence of the the Sunni
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    power. So it's a suddenly we
    have the Taliban we have the
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    ISIS, we have like
    everything is resurging, for
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    certain reasons. So this is
    all a game of power between
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    Sunni and Shiite, for the
    holidays. So I don't think
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    it's just 1111 on problem. I
    think it's a power or it's a
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    power struggle. I don't know
    I think be with me, but very
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    insightful.
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    I would I would say that
    Lebanon has been targeted by
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    Iran. Since Khomeini came to
    power in February of 1979.
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    You remember, he was an
    exile in France. And then he
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    flew back to Iran into power
    after the sharp fell from
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    power. That same year, the
    Iranian Revolutionary Guard
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    opened up a camp in Lebanon,
    in the Bekaa Valley and
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    bonding. So the Shia
    resurgence dates, all the
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    noonas referring to dates
    all the way back to 1979. So
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    we're talking about 42 years
    at the base here.
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    Furthermore, Israel used to
    have direct flights from Tel
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    Aviv to Tehran, there was a
    Israel interest office or
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    building into Iran. They
    were Israeli engineers and
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    scientists and teachers.
    They were all working in
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    Iran because the Shah was on
    a crusade of modernity. He
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    wanted to make Iran into a
    first world country. So the
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    Israel's closest ally was
    Iran. But when Khomeini came
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    to power that year, he
    closed the Israel office and
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    he declared the the last
    week of Ramadan to be
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    Jerusalem day so the
    committee has been using and
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    subsequent leaders in Iran
    are using Lebanon as a
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    battleship to liberate
    including Marx liberate
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    Jerusalem, for Islam. So,
    there there are many reasons
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    for the collapse that you
    asked us about. But you can
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    go back 42 years to where
    Lebanon was already being
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    targeted by Iran. And this
    is the fruit of that. And in
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    fact, there was a coup in
    May of 2008, in which his of
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    Allah, which is the Shiite
    militia, and also political
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    party, launched a coup
    against the government
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    government and arrested in
    quotation marks, government
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    leaders have put them under
    house arrest for 24 hours in
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    one day and basically said,
    we're in control now. Yeah.
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    And so we have been in a
    political gridlock. Ever
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    since 2008, we've had not
    able to make any progress.
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    Politically, we have no
    government, as you probably
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    know, because Lebanon is
    being used by Iran, as their
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    spear into into Israel.
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    That that is so helpful to
    understand and so critical
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    to be aware of, and praying
    for as believers who want to
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    stand with God's purposes
    for the nations of the
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    Middle East, including
    Lebanon, that they would be
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    delivered from this and come
    into their destiny, and
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    stand with also Israel and
    the other nations and God's
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    purposes. So thank you guys,
    I think another very
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    significant event, as I
    understand it, is what
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    happened last year, on
    August 4, I was on a zoom
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    call at that time, I think,
    Homer, you were on it as
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    well, with many other
    leaders from around the
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    world. And there was a big
    explosion in Beirut and you
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    had to excuse yourself, at
    that time, and others on the
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    call, they were from
    Lebanon, became quite
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    emotional about just how
    fearful they were over what
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    had happened in Beirut,
    because of the size of the
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    explosion and noon, I know,
    we were communicating
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    quickly, soon after that as
    well. But maybe you can just
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    describe that day and what's
    happened as well, since
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    then, in the city of Beirut
    and in Lebanon.
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    Yeah, I remember that day.
    And I think many people
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    remember that day as if it
    was yesterday. So it's not
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    something that was in the
    past. It's something that's
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    so vivid, and so present in
    our memory. And we can't, we
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    can't just live, you know,
    without remembering that
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    day. And I wrote it in one
    of my letters that it was
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    there is now before the
    October, August for and
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    after August 4, like, you
    know, there is a this this
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    thing that before it was
    this way, and now it is this
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    way. So it it's just had a
    complete transformation of
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    society, the all the trauma
    of the civil war that was in
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    Lebanon came back. So the
    people that lived that
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    moment of the explosion, and
    that felt the instruction
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    and the loss and the death
    and all these things lived
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    also not only that tragedy,
    but live back also the
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    tragedy of the war, where
    people lost also homes and
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    people they loved and like
    many things that were
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    similar,
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    so kind of re traumatize
    them or brought that all
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    back up.
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    Yes, yes. So because it was
    all always inside them, but
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    they learn to live with it.
    But now with this, now you
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    have a new fear, that is
    lingering, we will as I was
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    discussing with my son, just
    yesterday, I was discussing
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    with him and they said now
    that when they hear a plane,
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    they they feel fear. When
    they hear a plane, they feel
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    fear. And he was saying
    genoma this friend has this
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    and this friend has this and
    this friend has this. So he
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    was just naming all the
    people people like every one
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    of them had now fear when
    they hear a plane because
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    before the explosion, this
    is what we heard we heard
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    that plane and then we heard
    the explosion so so there's
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    this now unconscious fear
    that is there that I don't
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    know what will happen to me.
    Now I'm on a road and I hit
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    a plane and maybe a bomb
    will explode just next to
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    me. So something that that
    unconsciously is living the
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    living it like everyone is
    living it. So we live we're
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    working in the explosion
    area. So we have a center
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    now index function area, and
    I see all day long as you
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    see people who have lived
    this tragedy will have lost
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    homes. Some of them have not
    even finished repairing
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    their homes, because of lack
    of finances, but some of
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    them are still trying to
    Bring back a sense of
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    normalcy in, in their lives.
    But it's very hard,
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    especially for younger, the
    younger ones, the kids who
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    are afraid now to go back
    into their homes, the kids
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    who don't know what to do,
    like if they go to school,
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    they come back from school,
    or they like, what are they
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    going to find? So there's a
    this, this heavy feeling of
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    trauma and of, of
    uncertainty and fear and
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    insecurity, there's all
    over. So it's not just a, an
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    explosion that happened in
    someplace, it's the whole
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    spectrum of things that are
    before and after. So even
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    before, because of all the
    memories that came with it,
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    and after, because of all
    the things that are still
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    very much around us that we
    can see, there's so much
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    still to be repaired,
    there's so much still
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    reminding us every day of
    what happened every day, we
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    see places that have not
    been repaired yet to cars
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    that are still destroyed,
    shops that are still closed,
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    and with broken windows and
    broken shutters, and so it's
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    still there, it's still
    there around us.
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    It must be so difficult with
    what you described earlier
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    about how things just are
    not functioning with the
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    government and in the
    society in general, to have
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    such a massive, destructive
    event take place, impacting
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    the port and surrounding
    areas. They're in Beirut to
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    such a degree that you know,
    how many hundreds of 1000s
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    of people were homeless are
    affected at that time
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    100,300 to
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    300,000 people who were
    affected by that. And then a
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    year later, you're talking
    about how things are still
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    very much not remedied or
    taken care of because of the
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    situation there that you
    described earlier. And that
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    must be so difficult for you
    and all the people in
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    Lebanon just to continue to
    go through the whole process
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    of trying to make life
    better, but failing, in many
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    ways, there's a little
    progress. And it's it feels
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    hopeless, I'm sure, at
    times, but we just
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    and the government does is
    not there. So it's like
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    everything is relying on
    NGOs and international aid,
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    and through the government.
    So the people are really,
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    really relying on NGOs to to
    rebuild their lives and to
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    have what whatever kind of
    headache they can. They're
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    not relying on any
    governmental office, they're
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    not relying on the social
    affairs of the Ministry of
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    Interior, they're not
    relying of any on any of
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    these. They're just relying
    on NGOs. And that's puts a
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    really heavy load on local
    and international NGOs. And
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    do you
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    feel that those NGOs are
    getting enough resources and
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    they have enough people and
    finances to be able to to
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    continue to help in that
    situation and serve those
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    people that have needs?
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    It is going well, I think I
    think there is always this
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    the problem of the banks. So
    people who cannot retrieve
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    their money from banks. So
    some people have actually
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    money in the bank, but they
    cannot retrieve it. So
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    that's a problem. Some
    people are receiving money
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    and can retrieve it and are
    able to work with it. But
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    the need is so much greater
    than like, even if you just
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    send hundreds of millions of
    dollars. It's not enough.
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    It's not enough, because the
    problem is that people are
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    not able to it's not like
    you give one time you just
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    rebuild a life and then they
    go on you have to continue
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    because there is no work,
    there is no prospect of
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    work, there is no future
    there is no hope there is
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    nothing. So you give once
    and then you have given up
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    to give another time and
    another time and another
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    time. So even if you have a
    lot, a lot, a lot of money
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    is sustained in it for a
    long time. It's very hard.
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    Even, you know, even a
    government I don't know if
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    the government can do that.
    So, so yes, there are like
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    there is money and many NGOs
    are working and but the
  • 19:35 - 19:37
    sustaining of it is very
    hard.
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    Probably because there needs
    to be a redevelopment of
  • 19:41 - 19:46
    infrastructure in so many
    ways for things to improve.
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    So Robert, what do you feel
    I know you were greatly
  • 19:50 - 19:53
    impacted and I remember you
    going around on your
  • 19:53 - 19:56
    motorcycle and viewing
    things right down at the
  • 19:56 - 20:00
    port after it happened and
    and sharing those videos.
  • 20:00 - 20:05
    And pictures with me and
    others. But how's life been
  • 20:05 - 20:07
    since then, in your view?
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    Well, we were, as you
    mentioned, we actually were
  • 20:12 - 20:16
    on a zoom together when we
    had, I felt an earthquake,
  • 20:16 - 20:19
    and we've been overdue. A
    big earthquake since the
  • 20:19 - 20:23
    last big one, shook the
    whole region back in 1927.
  • 20:23 - 20:25
    My wife and I, we always
    talk about, hey, we're
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    overdue. Where's the
    earthquake? Because Lebanon
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    is right on the Rift Valley
    as Israel, which goes from
  • 20:31 - 20:33
    here all starts in Lebanon
    goes all the way to Kenya
  • 20:33 - 20:36
    and Africa. So I thought,
    well, here's the big one,
  • 20:36 - 20:41
    maybe this is the big
    earthquake. So I got up and,
  • 20:41 - 20:45
    and walked out to the bank,
    I excused myself from the
  • 20:45 - 20:48
    zoom call. And just as I got
    up from the couch, I heard
  • 20:48 - 20:52
    the sound. So I realize it
    was an earthquake, it was an
  • 20:52 - 20:55
    explosion. I got out to the
    balcony. Now there's nothing
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    there's no obstruction
    between the balcony and the
  • 20:58 - 20:59
    port. In other words,
    there's no buildings in
  • 20:59 - 21:02
    front of between me and the
    port, all of the port is a
  • 21:02 - 21:06
    distance away. It there's
    nothing to obstruct my view.
  • 21:06 - 21:11
    And so I was there. When the
    second explosion, that's the
  • 21:11 - 21:15
    large one went off, and it
    looked like an atomic bomb.
  • 21:15 - 21:16
    And for a split second, I
    thought, What is this an
  • 21:16 - 21:20
    atomic bomb, but I realized
    I wasn't blinded by the
  • 21:20 - 21:23
    flash. So that I really
    thought that for a second.
  • 21:23 - 21:27
    But the mushroom cloud
    disappeared in a second or
  • 21:27 - 21:30
    two it was it wasn't like
    Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So I
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    realize No, this is not at a
    time, but I didn't know what
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    it was. But it I went down
    and no cars are allowed in
  • 21:38 - 21:41
    the area. But I could get by
    my little motorcycle and
  • 21:41 - 21:43
    went down to to look at it.
    The following morning
  • 21:43 - 21:46
    explosion was 10 minutes
    past six in the evening. On
  • 21:46 - 21:48
    August the fourth, I went
    down the morning in the
  • 21:48 - 21:52
    fifth and saw the incredible
    destruction. Now I want to
  • 21:52 - 21:56
    say this about August the
    fourth August the fourth
  • 21:56 - 22:00
    created another spasm of
    fury on the part of the
  • 22:00 - 22:03
    Lebanese people against the
    government. Very similar to
  • 22:03 - 22:09
    what happened in October
    17 2019. Why? Because the
  • 22:09 - 22:12
    Lebanese discovered that
    tons of ammonium nitrate
  • 22:12 - 22:16
    nitrate, which was in a
    rusty old boat that was on
  • 22:16 - 22:19
    its way to Mozambique, had
    stopped in Beirut for some
  • 22:19 - 22:23
    repairs. And for some
    reason, the contents of the
  • 22:23 - 22:27
    ship, the small ship were
    confiscated by Lebanese
  • 22:27 - 22:32
    customs and put in a
    warehouse in 2016, if I'm
  • 22:32 - 22:37
    not mistaken, and not stored
    properly. And so when the
  • 22:37 - 22:39
    Lebanese people found out
    what are we doing,
  • 22:39 - 22:43
    confiscating this stuff, and
    putting it on our shore?
  • 22:44 - 22:48
    People were going crazy. Why
    didn't we just you know, let
  • 22:48 - 22:50
    that ship get its repairs
    and go on to Mozambique,
  • 22:50 - 22:56
    where that's where it was on
    its way to. But the it was
  • 22:56 - 23:01
    confiscated. And it led to
    this explosion which is had
  • 23:01 - 23:05
    it's a domino effect. It's
    affected so many things. In
  • 23:05 - 23:07
    addition to what I've
    already mentioned, the
  • 23:07 - 23:11
    collapse of the currency,
    slowdown of the economy and
  • 23:11 - 23:15
    so on, so forth. This is
    almost the last straw. I
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    don't know if it is the last
    straw, then it seemed like
  • 23:17 - 23:21
    the last straw. And so a
    fury has erupted in Lebanese
  • 23:21 - 23:25
    society. Because no one has
    been held accountable.
  • 23:26 - 23:28
    Immediately an investigation
    was launched, but no one has
  • 23:28 - 23:32
    been arraigned. No one has
    been brought to court, much
  • 23:32 - 23:36
    less arrested or sentenced
    to prison for this
  • 23:36 - 23:40
    explosion, which damaged
    hundreds of 1000s of
  • 23:40 - 23:43
    buildings. It's hard to
    imagine a number like that.
  • 23:43 - 23:46
    And then some buildings were
    damaged, were completely
  • 23:46 - 23:49
    destroyed. Others suffered
    superficial damage depending
  • 23:49 - 23:52
    how far away you are from
    the blast. But we're talking
  • 23:52 - 23:55
    about hundreds of 1000s of
    buildings. And this is after
  • 23:55 - 23:59
    Beirut started rebuilding
    the war ended in 1990. And I
  • 23:59 - 24:03
    would say about 93 or 94
    building started in earnest.
  • 24:03 - 24:07
    And the skyline of a mood is
    totally different than what
  • 24:07 - 24:12
    I remember when I came here
    in 1980. So all of that it
  • 24:12 - 24:16
    seemed like all of that
    progress was just destroyed.
  • 24:17 - 24:21
    And so a tremendous malaise
    has fallen on the Lebanese
  • 24:21 - 24:26
    people a disappointment, a
    discouragement. In the when
  • 24:26 - 24:29
    the war broke out and 75 the
    Civil War The second Civil
  • 24:29 - 24:32
    War first one was 1958. But
    when the second Civil War
  • 24:32 - 24:34
    broke out in 75, the
    population Lebanon was
  • 24:34 - 24:39
    around 3 million, a million
    Lebanese left after the 75
  • 24:39 - 24:44
    War. Well, they came back in
    the 1990s. And now once
  • 24:44 - 24:47
    again, we're seeing an
    exodus, a brain drain. I
  • 24:47 - 24:52
    mean, I've lost my doctor.
    I've lost my dentist. The
  • 24:52 - 24:56
    best and the brightest are
    leaving young people leaving
  • 24:56 - 24:58
    because these are their
    early years of their life.
  • 24:58 - 25:02
    They can't sit around
    waiting. So It's it's a
  • 25:02 - 25:04
    discouraging time for sure.
    Now, we're not going to
  • 25:04 - 25:10
    finish this seminar on that
    note, but I just answer your
  • 25:10 - 25:14
    question about how I view
    the explosion of August 4.
  • 25:14 - 25:17
    Well, thank you. And I
    think, you know, both of you
  • 25:17 - 25:21
    have made reference to a few
    times to the economy and how
  • 25:22 - 25:27
    it has, you know, had such a
    turn downturn, and it's in
  • 25:27 - 25:30
    really bad shape. Can you
    speak more to that before we
  • 25:30 - 25:34
    talk about the response of
    believers and the church to
  • 25:34 - 25:37
    all of this, because we do
    want to end on a hopeful
  • 25:37 - 25:40
    note of what God can do
    through all of this, but I
  • 25:40 - 25:43
    know the economy is
    suffering greatly. They're
  • 25:43 - 25:46
    in Lebanon, and many of us
    are concerned about how that
  • 25:46 - 25:51
    affects society and the
    political situation in
  • 25:51 - 25:55
    Lebanon, but also in the
    region with as the other
  • 25:56 - 25:59
    forces that work as we
    talked about earlier, so
  • 25:59 - 26:03
    what about the economy? How
    is it impacting you and your
  • 26:03 - 26:07
    families, your ministries,
    but also in general Lebanon?
  • 26:10 - 26:15
    Well, you probably know that
    the Lebanese pound has lost
  • 26:15 - 26:22
    90% of its value, which
    means that with with a $1,
  • 26:22 - 26:27
    now, you have 90% inflation,
    so you can just have for the
  • 26:27 - 26:32
    same dollar you had before
    1500, Lebanese lira, now you
  • 26:32 - 26:37
    have 20,000, Lebanese here
    for the same dollar. So this
  • 26:37 - 26:41
    means such a devaluation of
    the Lebanese pound, and the
  • 26:41 - 26:45
    power of the buying power,
    the purchasing power of the
  • 26:45 - 26:48
    remaining style is really
    nothing. So now you go to a
  • 26:48 - 26:52
    shop, and you can really buy
    nothing with what you have
  • 26:52 - 26:56
    is living these pounds. And
    many people are still
  • 26:57 - 26:59
    receiving the wages in
    Lebanese pounds, and it has
  • 26:59 - 27:05
    not even been increased. So
    they have lost 90% of their
  • 27:05 - 27:11
    salaries, which so
    everything is all the stuff
  • 27:11 - 27:13
    in the supermarket, or the
    things that you need to buy
  • 27:13 - 27:17
    even the gas, or whatever it
    is, everything has increased
  • 27:17 - 27:21
    in value, and a lot
    increased, but then they
  • 27:21 - 27:23
    don't have any more the
    purchasing power that they
  • 27:23 - 27:27
    have. So if they had money
    in the bank is stranded in
  • 27:27 - 27:29
    the bank, if they have, if
    just they're just relying on
  • 27:29 - 27:33
    their own salary, what they
    get, they're receiving only,
  • 27:33 - 27:36
    like 10% of what they used
    to receive before. So now
  • 27:36 - 27:42
    that we're the wage, the
    minimum wage is about $29
  • 27:42 - 27:45
    less than minimum wage of a
    nice person per month. And
  • 27:46 - 27:53
    it is like $29. So before it
    used to be like $600 now
  • 27:53 - 27:59
    it's, it's $29. So you can
    imagine a little bit the
  • 27:59 - 28:04
    poverty that people are
    living in the lack. So they
  • 28:04 - 28:09
    have been reduced to it to
    you know, just cut out some
  • 28:09 - 28:14
    meats or some restaurants or
    some some of the things that
  • 28:14 - 28:18
    they used to do, they have
    now to just stop it and not
  • 28:18 - 28:22
    not live the same way they
    used to live before. So and
  • 28:22 - 28:27
    many of them now are relying
    on the the aids the food
  • 28:27 - 28:30
    packages that we are sending
    or that other NGOs are
  • 28:30 - 28:33
    sending, so many of them are
    actually relying on the food
  • 28:33 - 28:38
    packages that we're sending.
    So that's much people who
  • 28:38 - 28:42
    have never, never asked for
    help are now coming and
  • 28:42 - 28:46
    knocking at our doors, which
    is for us it is a
  • 28:46 - 28:49
    catastrophe. It's really,
    really dramatic. And you
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    know what people who have
    done who are going through
  • 28:52 - 28:57
    the same thing? Yeah. So
    they now we are we are where
  • 28:57 - 29:01
    we were, we are reduced to,
    you know, to ask for help.
  • 29:02 - 29:05
    You know, not not personally
    but I mean, Lebanese people
  • 29:05 - 29:12
    are, this is the reality of
    maybe 80% of the Lebanese
  • 29:12 - 29:17
    population is a huge number.
    Not Of course, you have some
  • 29:17 - 29:22
    who are living with working
    with foreign countries, so
  • 29:22 - 29:25
    they still receive their
    wages in foreign currencies.
  • 29:25 - 29:28
    They're fine. But those who
    are receiving their wages in
  • 29:28 - 29:32
    Lebanese have been
    dramatically dramatically.
  • 29:34 - 29:36
    That's have been touched by
    that.
  • 29:37 - 29:40
    So Robert, what are you
    viewing when you see this
  • 29:40 - 29:43
    situation now with the
    economy and how it's
  • 29:43 - 29:45
    affecting people's lives?
  • 29:46 - 29:50
    Well, it's hard for me
    although I don't get my
  • 29:50 - 29:54
    salary is not in Lebanese
    lira. But it's hard for me
  • 29:54 - 29:57
    to be around such need in my
    building. We have three
  • 29:57 - 30:01
    pharmacists, one engineer
    and they need food. I never
  • 30:01 - 30:05
    thought I would see such a
    thing. When I came to
  • 30:05 - 30:08
    Lebanon for the first time
    in 1980, and then moved my
  • 30:08 - 30:12
    family here in 1982, there
    was full employment. The
  • 30:12 - 30:16
    currency was very strong.
    Lebanese was known. The
  • 30:16 - 30:19
    Lebanese currency was known
    as a very strong currency.
  • 30:19 - 30:22
    Yes. And that's how it was
    throughout the warriors.
  • 30:22 - 30:25
    Now, there wasn't security.
    There was there was work,
  • 30:25 - 30:28
    and there was food. And
    there was a strong currency.
  • 30:28 - 30:32
    But of course, there was war
    as well. We don't have war
  • 30:32 - 30:36
    now. But the situation in
    many respects is much more
  • 30:36 - 30:40
    difficult. Then it was an
    award. Here's the How do you
  • 30:40 - 30:44
    go from $600 to $29, a
    person in our church, her
  • 30:44 - 30:49
    brother had had $1,650 a
    month, which is a very good
  • 30:49 - 30:54
    salary. He has a wife and
    four children. And now he
  • 30:54 - 30:58
    has to get by on less than
    $200 a month. I mean, it's,
  • 30:58 - 31:03
    this is incredible. I have
    never seen anything like
  • 31:03 - 31:07
    this now. The Nunez husband.
    Right after the Intifada
  • 31:07 - 31:10
    started in October of 2019.
    The very next month,
  • 31:10 - 31:14
    November, he decided to
    start a food bank. And it's
  • 31:14 - 31:20
    the first congregation to do
    that. And it was so patient
  • 31:20 - 31:24
    of him to do and it's just
    amazing, because we didn't
  • 31:24 - 31:27
    realize how much people will
    be depending on this food
  • 31:27 - 31:29
    bank. And we've not only
    First of all, it was founded
  • 31:29 - 31:31
    to help the congregation,
    the members of the
  • 31:31 - 31:34
    congregation, obviously, but
    then it's spread to helping
  • 31:34 - 31:37
    other congregations. And
    then finally, Nunez has been
  • 31:37 - 31:40
    helped churches start their
    own food banks. And this
  • 31:40 - 31:44
    food bank continues to grow
    because the need continues
  • 31:44 - 31:47
    to grow. I never saw this in
    the Warriors never saw
  • 31:47 - 31:51
    anything like this before.
    So this is very impactful.
  • 31:52 - 31:57
    It's it's painful to see,
    even though I personally
  • 31:57 - 32:01
    unable to buy the food that
    I need to be around such
  • 32:01 - 32:04
    need all the time, is pretty
    discouraging.
  • 32:05 - 32:09
    I can imagine I just really
    have no idea. You know,
  • 32:09 - 32:12
    though, we've lived in
    situations where there's
  • 32:12 - 32:16
    poverty and and difficulty
    to, to make ends meet for
  • 32:16 - 32:19
    people. It's nothing like
    what you guys are
  • 32:19 - 32:23
    describing. And it's been
    going on for such a long
  • 32:23 - 32:27
    time already with, again,
    very little hope for how
  • 32:27 - 32:31
    it's going to change right
    now, politically and
  • 32:31 - 32:35
    otherwise. So I think we
    really, you know, he knew
  • 32:35 - 32:38
    need to take some time now
    before we finished to talk
  • 32:38 - 32:41
    about what the Lord's been
    doing in your hearts,
  • 32:42 - 32:46
    through all of this and how
    he's encouraged you and
  • 32:46 - 32:51
    given you hope, cuz I know
    you both are both resilient,
  • 32:52 - 32:57
    strong believers, and that
    you have great hope yet for
  • 32:57 - 33:02
    Lebanon and for Isaiah 19
    and the nations around to
  • 33:02 - 33:07
    see God's kingdom calm. So
    yeah, explain how you've
  • 33:07 - 33:09
    responded to these things,
    especially in the last
  • 33:09 - 33:12
    couple years. But over the
    last year, especially so
  • 33:12 - 33:16
    much has been happening
    noona I know your ministry
  • 33:16 - 33:20
    triumphant mercy has been
    having a great impact before
  • 33:20 - 33:25
    the explosion at the port,
    but even more so after that,
  • 33:25 - 33:28
    in many ways, and you're
    involved in a lot of
  • 33:28 - 33:31
    different outreach and
    ministry. Maybe you can
  • 33:31 - 33:34
    explain to us what you all
    got. Well, you guys are
  • 33:34 - 33:37
    doing and then as well,
    Robert, we want to hear from
  • 33:37 - 33:38
    you.
  • 33:39 - 33:43
    Yes, as transit mercy, which
    is the humanitarian branch
  • 33:43 - 33:50
    of the church, we we do have
    a big impact on the whole
  • 33:50 - 33:53
    Lebanese society. No, and
    before that we were working
  • 33:53 - 33:56
    also with refugees. So we're
    still working with refugees
  • 33:56 - 34:00
    with the Sunni refugees, but
    we have increased the work
  • 34:00 - 34:04
    with Lebanese citizens,
    especially after the crisis.
  • 34:04 - 34:09
    So with all the economic
    collapse, with all the
  • 34:09 - 34:12
    things that the Lebanon is
    going through, we have been
  • 34:12 - 34:18
    just opening our doors for
    Lebanese who are just going
  • 34:18 - 34:23
    through psychological
    problems with trauma with
  • 34:23 - 34:26
    all the things that they
    have been going through. So
  • 34:26 - 34:33
    we have had a lot of work
    with that. During after or
  • 34:33 - 34:37
    after the explosion. We had
    pre built homes. So we had
  • 34:37 - 34:40
    for two months. We were just
    on the streets. We had we
  • 34:40 - 34:43
    pitched a tent on the
    street, having a table there
  • 34:43 - 34:48
    and just mapping the region
    and and sending workers into
  • 34:48 - 34:51
    every home. So we did a lot
    a lot of homes that more
  • 34:51 - 34:55
    than 500 homes, we could
    help rebuilding and
  • 34:55 - 35:00
    repairing so we had a huge
    impact on that and I
  • 35:00 - 35:04
    remember, I remember just a
    bit after the explosion when
  • 35:04 - 35:08
    we were working on the
    streets. I remember when
  • 35:08 - 35:11
    people were coming from all
    the regions, with just
  • 35:11 - 35:15
    brooms, people wanted to do
    something, you know, people
  • 35:15 - 35:18
    could not after this
    explosion, they could not
  • 35:18 - 35:22
    just sit at home and watch
    news and not be on the
  • 35:22 - 35:25
    ground. Like they needed to
    feel useful. They needed to
  • 35:26 - 35:30
    express their anger and
    their frustration while I
  • 35:30 - 35:34
    was doing something. So we
    had with that too, because
  • 35:34 - 35:38
    we started to give them
    gloves for work, we started
  • 35:38 - 35:44
    to bring we brought brought
    lots of shovels, and, you
  • 35:44 - 35:47
    know, bags and all these
    things so that people can
  • 35:47 - 35:50
    just clean the streets and
    clean hospitals and clean
  • 35:50 - 35:55
    churches and clean homes and
    clean stairs and whatever it
  • 35:55 - 36:00
    is, so that people will just
    see people's frustration. So
  • 36:00 - 36:02
    we were able to help with
    that, to help to just
  • 36:02 - 36:06
    contain this, and to just
    bring leadership to people.
  • 36:06 - 36:09
    Really, I just see them the
    black sheep, without
  • 36:09 - 36:12
    shepherds, they had no one
    to lead them. They had no
  • 36:12 - 36:16
    one to tell them what to do,
    or how to help and what what
  • 36:16 - 36:20
    how can you just actually do
    something. So this was our
  • 36:20 - 36:23
    job just to sit there and
    just say, you go here, you
  • 36:23 - 36:26
    go here, take the shovel,
    take these, these now and
  • 36:26 - 36:29
    just bring trucks and just
    put everything in the truck
  • 36:29 - 36:32
    and take it to the garbage
    things, those small things
  • 36:32 - 36:36
    like that, that they needed
    it, it just brought so much
  • 36:36 - 36:37
    like
  • 36:38 - 36:41
    it was like a bomb on their,
    you know, on their, on their
  • 36:41 - 36:45
    frustration, just like I'm
    doing something. And this
  • 36:45 - 36:49
    has continued. So now this
    has continued is different
  • 36:49 - 36:53
    now. So most of the homes
    are somehow repaired, you
  • 36:53 - 36:56
    still have lots of other
    works, but like maybe the
  • 36:56 - 36:58
    heaters is not working,
    maybe the shutters are not
  • 36:58 - 37:02
    working but with the homes
    are okay, so people can live
  • 37:02 - 37:08
    in in the homes. But now as
    with, you know you work on
  • 37:08 - 37:12
    people with psychological
    support with trauma healing,
  • 37:12 - 37:15
    and we work on them to share
    it to give them a vision for
  • 37:15 - 37:19
    the future. So that's
    another kind of work we can
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    give. When when you just
    tell them that actually
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    there is a future, there is
    a future, your life doesn't
  • 37:25 - 37:28
    stop here. And that's a
    problem. Because none of
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    them has even the slightest
    thought that the future can
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    exist. For them many, for
    many of them, life has
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    stopped, life has taught
    with just surviving, we're
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    in a surviving mode, we're
    not in a mode that can
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    actually think of tomorrow.
    We're just surviving today.
  • 37:47 - 37:50
    And that's it. So that's the
    kind of work we could do. So
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    we do that we do we try to
    provide small jobs, maybe
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    it's not a big thing, maybe
    it's now we cannot do
  • 37:56 - 38:00
    everything. But we can
    provide small jobs. And
  • 38:00 - 38:03
    sometimes this is what
    people need. Because, you
  • 38:03 - 38:07
    know, they, they don't and
    many people actually told us
  • 38:07 - 38:09
    this when we were visiting
    them at home, they will say,
  • 38:09 - 38:13
    I don't need you to help me,
    I need you to find a job. I
  • 38:13 - 38:15
    don't want to be helped I
    want a job. So this is what
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    we're trying to do. So we're
    trying all kinds of things
  • 38:19 - 38:21
    to help people just stand
    back on their feet. And it's
  • 38:21 - 38:25
    not it's not easy. And of
    course the gospel is always
  • 38:25 - 38:28
    there. Without we cannot
    have hope without the
  • 38:28 - 38:31
    gospel. So when we talk
    about gospel about hope,
  • 38:31 - 38:34
    when we talk about future,
    we talk about the destiny of
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    Lebanon and that God loves
    Lebanon and Lebanon is a
  • 38:37 - 38:41
    jewel in the crown of the
    Lord and etc. So we always,
  • 38:41 - 38:44
    always bring back the Lord
    into it because he is our
  • 38:44 - 38:50
    anchor. Without him we just
    tossed you know by by every
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    wind that is coming by every
    political change by every
  • 38:53 - 38:56
    speech that somebody says
    that if somebody says
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    something we can remove,
    then somebody else says
  • 38:58 - 39:01
    something and then we can be
    moved. So we have to be
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    anchored somewhere. And this
    is how we're working with
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    people. I think, I think for
    now, this is what we can do.
  • 39:09 - 39:13
    We can bring food, we can
    bring restoration of souls,
  • 39:13 - 39:18
    we can try to provide jobs
    and and just bring bring God
  • 39:18 - 39:19
    close to people
  • 39:21 - 39:25
    to see that there is some
    breakthrough coming through
  • 39:25 - 39:31
    all these crises in terms of
    people's spiritual lives or
  • 39:31 - 39:35
    their hearts. Are they
    becoming more tender open to
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    hear the good news or
    something that will give
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    them both and are believers
    stepping up to really take
  • 39:44 - 39:47
    advantage of that and share
    the gospel more and more in
  • 39:47 - 39:49
    those situations.
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    I can see that people are
    more tender because their
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    their pride has been cut.
    You know now they reduced
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    their have, you know, they
    have to humble themselves to
  • 40:02 - 40:07
    ask for help? Or to say I
    cannot do it by myself? Or I
  • 40:07 - 40:11
    say, can you be next to me?
    Can you help me? Can you so
  • 40:11 - 40:16
    there's this brokenness that
    came. And with brokenness,
  • 40:16 - 40:21
    there's openness. So now
    there is much more openness
  • 40:21 - 40:26
    to hear the gospel before. I
    remember Lebanese was so
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    like, you know, religious.
    So I know everything, and
  • 40:30 - 40:34
    you don't need to preach the
    gospel to me. So but now,
  • 40:34 - 40:38
    they are so broken that they
    want that word of hope. So,
  • 40:39 - 40:41
    this morning, I were like I
    was at one of the centers,
  • 40:41 - 40:44
    and I was we were discussing
    with a lady, and we were
  • 40:44 - 40:47
    telling her what do you
    want? What do you need?
  • 40:47 - 40:49
    Like? So we're just having a
    kind of what do you need?
  • 40:50 - 40:53
    And one of the things that
    we told her, we told her, we
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    can do Bible studies, not
    Bible studies, like Bible
  • 40:58 - 41:02
    meetings, talking about the
    Bible, or we can do trauma
  • 41:02 - 41:05
    healing, or we can do
    computer lessons, or we can
  • 41:05 - 41:09
    do and she said, I want
    Bible. And oh, that's nice.
  • 41:09 - 41:15
    That's nice. So people are
    open, then I can't say
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    they're mature, and they
    understand everything, but
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    they are open. And this
    brokenness has brought so
  • 41:20 - 41:24
    much more openness then than
    we used to have before. Yes,
  • 41:24 - 41:28
    yeah. So some, they're
    thirsting for more,
  • 41:28 - 41:31
    this is more, but at the
    same time, there's so much
  • 41:31 - 41:34
    hopelessness in another
    another part that many of
  • 41:34 - 41:37
    them just dream of leaving
    the country. So it's both,
  • 41:37 - 41:40
    you know, they're broken. So
    the solution is either I
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    leave the country or I need,
    I need help. So if you can't
  • 41:44 - 41:47
    leave the country, then
    that's when you have like, I
  • 41:47 - 41:52
    need something. And so, so
    it's really, it's really
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    hard to hide situation.
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    Oh, yeah. Robert, what is
    your view on this in terms
  • 41:58 - 42:02
    of what God's you know,
    showing you and the hope
  • 42:02 - 42:05
    that you have for what he's
    going to do to redeem all of
  • 42:05 - 42:06
    this?
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    Well, I'd like to put some
    of the the suffering that
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    Lebanon has experienced over
    the decades and perspective,
  • 42:13 - 42:15
    this, this country was
    carved out of the caliphate
  • 42:15 - 42:18
    after World War One. So as
    far as Muslims are
  • 42:18 - 42:22
    concerned, it's Muslim land.
    And they've never, they've
  • 42:22 - 42:24
    never accepted any more than
    they have accepted. The
  • 42:24 - 42:28
    establishment of the State
    of Israel never accepted the
  • 42:28 - 42:30
    idea that Christians can be
    the head of state, the head
  • 42:30 - 42:34
    of the army had a Ministry
    of Interior that's unique
  • 42:34 - 42:39
    among the 22 Arab states, in
    the Middle East. So Lebanon
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    is a very, very unique
    country in the Arab Muslim
  • 42:42 - 42:45
    world. Yes. And as a result
    of that, when it was
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    founded, is a French mandate
    1920 and got its
  • 42:48 - 42:52
    independence in 1946. It's,
    it's been targeted, in my
  • 42:52 - 42:56
    opinion, it's been targeted
    by Satan ever since. But
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    why? Because Lebanon was the
    place where Christian
  • 43:00 - 43:03
    publishing was was was here.
    Yeah, Christian television
  • 43:03 - 43:06
    was here. Christopher's
    Christian radio, the
  • 43:06 - 43:08
    Christian television, right
    in the heart of the Arab
  • 43:08 - 43:12
    Muslim world, there's
    Lebanon, being a light for
  • 43:12 - 43:17
    the gospel to 300 million
    Arab Muslims. This is like a
  • 43:17 - 43:22
    sharp stick in the eye of
    Satan. And so my, my
  • 43:22 - 43:24
    perspective is the traumas
    that we've been going
  • 43:24 - 43:30
    through, go back many
    decades. It's not just you
  • 43:30 - 43:33
    know, the August 14 2020.
    explosion, or, or the
  • 43:33 - 43:37
    Intifada? 2019? No, no, he
    goes back. It's it goes way
  • 43:37 - 43:43
    back. And so as a result, we
    are having the kind of
  • 43:43 - 43:47
    upheavals that we're having,
    because more and more
  • 43:47 - 43:51
    Muslims are coming to faith
    in Yeshua, in Jesus. Look at
  • 43:51 - 43:55
    Iran, for example, Iran
    established an Islamic
  • 43:55 - 43:59
    theocracy, that means a
    country that's run by Allah.
  • 43:59 - 44:02
    And yet it's the fastest
    growing church that we're
  • 44:02 - 44:06
    aware of in the Muslim
    world. That's just one
  • 44:06 - 44:09
    example. The other thing you
    asked us to speak about
  • 44:09 - 44:12
    Isaiah and it well, we're
    part of the highway, we're
  • 44:12 - 44:15
    part of a Syria were part of
    the countries that make up
  • 44:15 - 44:18
    used to make up Syria or
    Syria, the empire of Syria.
  • 44:18 - 44:22
    I would like to remind our
    listeners, our viewers, that
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    the border between Israel
    and Lebanon was open
  • 44:24 - 44:29
    unofficially from 1976 until
    2000. That means for a
  • 44:29 - 44:34
    period of 24 years, there
    was a commerce and people
  • 44:34 - 44:36
    going back and forth across
    the border, not Israelis.
  • 44:36 - 44:39
    Israelis are not allowed to
    go north, the Lebanese are
  • 44:39 - 44:42
    free to come south, and then
    he did and many worked in
  • 44:42 - 44:46
    Israel. So the highway was
    actually open from 1976 to
  • 44:46 - 44:50
    2000. So that gives us hope,
    and I remember those days
  • 44:50 - 44:54
    and those of the viewers are
    that know their geography.
  • 44:54 - 44:56
    I'm talking about the Tula
    the good fence matola being
  • 44:56 - 45:00
    the the northernmost city
    and Israel and those If you
  • 45:00 - 45:02
    didn't know Lebanese
    geography, I'm talking about
  • 45:02 - 45:06
    Coca Cola, and Marina Yun
    area. But there are other
  • 45:06 - 45:09
    openings along the border
    all the way to us in order,
  • 45:09 - 45:16
    for example in Romania, but
    we believe that Satan, he
  • 45:16 - 45:19
    knows this Bible as well
    remember, he quoted some
  • 45:19 - 45:22
    pretty obscure passages to
    the issue it Jesus when he
  • 45:22 - 45:26
    was being tempted by the
    devil in the wilderness, so
  • 45:26 - 45:31
    he knows his Bible. So he's
    aware of God's vision for
  • 45:31 - 45:34
    this region, the vision that
    God gave Isaiah we call it I
  • 45:34 - 45:36
    say, his vision, but it's
    actually God's vision that
  • 45:36 - 45:40
    he gave Prophet Isaiah and
    chapter 19, particularly the
  • 45:40 - 45:44
    last three verses 2324 25.
    Well, Lebanon is part of
  • 45:44 - 45:48
    that promise. And so we see
    a spiritual warfare going
  • 45:48 - 45:52
    on. The good thing is, is
    that we're experiencing
  • 45:52 - 45:55
    judgment, but we're also
    learning righteousness at
  • 45:55 - 45:58
    the same time. And the house
    of the Beirut House of
  • 45:58 - 46:03
    Prayer, which came out of
    this congregation that noona
  • 46:03 - 46:07
    pastors along with her
    husband, this is this is
  • 46:07 - 46:10
    going on, you know, their,
    their prayer movement is
  • 46:10 - 46:14
    growing in this country as a
    result of what we've been
  • 46:14 - 46:19
    going through, particularly
    since 2019. The momentum is
  • 46:19 - 46:22
    growing. I wouldn't say that
    we're having revival and
  • 46:22 - 46:25
    Lebanon, although I know
    there has been a description
  • 46:25 - 46:28
    of one meeting in the Bekaa
    Valley as a revival. I'm
  • 46:28 - 46:30
    aware of that meeting. But
    I'm talking about it's not a
  • 46:30 - 46:35
    nationwide revival. We're
    seeing pockets of revival,
  • 46:35 - 46:38
    certainly, in the Beirut
    house of prayer. It's it's
  • 46:38 - 46:44
    never been as active in the
    past as it is today. And I
  • 46:44 - 46:48
    believe that the is caused
    us to get serious about our
  • 46:48 - 46:51
    faith, and to realize that
    we're in spiritual warfare
  • 46:51 - 46:53
    here, that Satan
  • 46:55 - 46:59
    hates us and has a terrible
    plan for our lives. But God
  • 46:59 - 47:02
    has a bride here in Lebanon,
    and he loves Lebanon, and he
  • 47:02 - 47:06
    loves his church in Lebanon,
    and he has great plans for
  • 47:06 - 47:10
    this country, man. And so we
    we are contending in the
  • 47:10 - 47:15
    place of prayer and worship,
    for the spiritual destiny of
  • 47:15 - 47:21
    Lebanon, which is linked to
    you where you live, Tom, and
  • 47:21 - 47:24
    is linked to the other
    countries along the highway.
  • 47:25 - 47:29
    Wonderful. Well, I think the
    only thing we can do now is
  • 47:29 - 47:37
    to take some times in that
    prayer for Lebanon so that
  • 47:37 - 47:41
    they will continue to think
    about what they've heard and
  • 47:41 - 47:45
    pray into all of this, I
    really would like to just
  • 47:45 - 47:49
    take a moment and share
    before we pray this amazing
  • 47:49 - 47:56
    promise, from Isaiah chapter
    29, to prophetic word
  • 47:56 - 48:01
    declaration in Isaiah as
    well, about Lebanon, that I
  • 48:01 - 48:04
    would think we're all
    continuing to believe God is
  • 48:04 - 48:08
    going to bring this to pass
    in the near future. It
  • 48:08 - 48:13
    begins in verse 17, of
    Isaiah 19 verse, Isaiah 29.
  • 48:13 - 48:17
    In a very short time, will
    not Lebanon be turned into a
  • 48:17 - 48:21
    fertile field. And the
    fertile fields seem like a
  • 48:21 - 48:26
    forest. A day the death will
    hear the words of the scroll
  • 48:26 - 48:29
    and out of gloom and
    darkness, the eyes of the
  • 48:29 - 48:34
    blind will see, once more
    the humble will rejoice in
  • 48:34 - 48:38
    the Lord. The needy will
    rejoice in the Holy One of
  • 48:38 - 48:42
    Israel. The ruthless will
    vanish the mockers will
  • 48:42 - 48:46
    disappear. And all who have
    an eye for evil will be cut
  • 48:46 - 48:51
    down. Those who had with a
    word make someone out to be
  • 48:51 - 48:54
    guilty, who ensnare the
    defender in court, and with
  • 48:54 - 48:59
    false testimony deprive the
    innocent of justice. Yes,
  • 48:59 - 49:03
    well, what a description of
    Lebanon from what you've
  • 49:03 - 49:07
    already been sharing with
    us, what we hear about the
  • 49:07 - 49:10
    situation, the terrible
    corruption and injustice is
  • 49:10 - 49:14
    going on that are affecting
    and all of the society and
  • 49:14 - 49:18
    the economy and so on
    people's lives. God has a
  • 49:18 - 49:22
    hope and a promise to turn
    that around in a very short
  • 49:22 - 49:26
    time. He says, this can
    happen in Lebanon, and that
  • 49:26 - 49:30
    once more than the humble
    will rejoice in the Lord
  • 49:30 - 49:33
    Luke noona. You talked about
    people becoming broken and
  • 49:33 - 49:37
    humble. It's time now it's
    time for a breakthrough
  • 49:37 - 49:40
    spiritually for Lebanon,
    that the needy will rejoice
  • 49:40 - 49:44
    in the Holy One of Israel.
    Robert, that speaks to me
  • 49:44 - 49:48
    that they're actually going
    to know even more about the
  • 49:48 - 49:52
    God of Israel, who is the
    father of Yeshua, Jesus, the
  • 49:52 - 49:57
    Messiah, that they're going
    to honor and love him as
  • 49:57 - 50:00
    well as all the nations of
    the Middle East will
  • 50:00 - 50:04
    Together with the people of
    Israel. So why don't we just
  • 50:04 - 50:07
    take a moment and close in
    prayer, and I'll let both of
  • 50:07 - 50:11
    you lead off and prayer for
    your own wonderful nation of
  • 50:11 - 50:15
    Lebanon. And then I'll close
    it after you've prayed.
  • 50:20 - 50:24
    Okay? Jesus, I thank you
    because of your promises,
  • 50:25 - 50:34
    because your promises are
    true. Yes, and every promise
  • 50:34 - 50:37
    that you have in the Bible,
    every promise that you have
  • 50:37 - 50:40
    for our land, we take it,
    the God of justice is
  • 50:40 - 50:42
    coming. You are the God of
    justice, and you're bringing
  • 50:42 - 50:45
    your throne as we worship as
    we pray, Lord, I know that
  • 50:45 - 50:47
    you are establishing your
    throne of justice. And you
  • 50:47 - 50:50
    said, the foundation of your
    throne is justice and truth
  • 50:50 - 50:54
    is true. So I just ask Lord,
    that You would, in these
  • 50:54 - 50:58
    dark times that you would
    increase prayer, I pray that
  • 50:58 - 51:01
    you would just increase the
    number of people who would
  • 51:01 - 51:05
    just call onto you. Because
    you said that you hear the
  • 51:05 - 51:09
    cries of your people. And
    you listen, and you come and
  • 51:09 - 51:12
    you visit, and you raise the
    deliver and you change and
  • 51:12 - 51:15
    you transform because you
    are the one who is able to
  • 51:15 - 51:18
    do all these things. Lord,
    we put our trust in you. We
  • 51:18 - 51:22
    cannot trust in any man in
    any country, in any
  • 51:22 - 51:26
    government in any power in
    we don't trust in any.
  • 51:26 - 51:29
    Because all of them has
    failed us, all of them,
  • 51:29 - 51:32
    though. So we know that we
    cannot trust on anyone but
  • 51:32 - 51:36
    you and today we just come
    to you. And we say Lord
  • 51:36 - 51:40
    Lebanon is a precious jewel
    in your crown and Lebanon
  • 51:40 - 51:44
    will be richly represented
    before the throne. And it
  • 51:44 - 51:48
    has such a destiny that that
    the Lord has just talked
  • 51:48 - 51:51
    about it multiple times,
    about the beauty of Lebanon
  • 51:51 - 51:55
    and the glory of Lebanon and
    or the splendor of Lebanon
  • 51:55 - 51:58
    or the cedars of Lebanon and
    the aroma that's coming out
  • 51:58 - 52:02
    of Lebanon. And Lord today I
    just asked that Lebanon way
  • 52:02 - 52:06
    come into its destiny, pray,
    Lord, that You would just
  • 52:06 - 52:10
    bring bring back Lebanon to
    his original status. I just
  • 52:10 - 52:13
    am all these covers all
    these markers, all these
  • 52:13 - 52:17
    people that are just making
    plans, like in some tool,
  • 52:17 - 52:19
    that they are just
    conspiring together against
  • 52:19 - 52:22
    the Lord. Not that you would
    just laugh like law. It's a
  • 52:22 - 52:25
    terrible laugh. It's a
    terrible laugh. When you
  • 52:25 - 52:28
    were you laugh from your
    soul at your enemies. It's a
  • 52:28 - 52:31
    terrible laugh. But I asked
    her that now you just bring
  • 52:31 - 52:34
    your justice from your
    throne. And I thank you
  • 52:34 - 52:36
    because there's nothing that
    out of that's out of your
  • 52:36 - 52:40
    control. And even though we
    see the situation as like as
  • 52:40 - 52:43
    a dead end and very hard
    with you, there's always an
  • 52:43 - 52:47
    open door with you. There's
    always an exit, you always
  • 52:47 - 52:50
    you always have a solution.
    You always have a plan of
  • 52:50 - 52:53
    redemption, always have a
    plan, even to death, you had
  • 52:53 - 52:57
    a plan of resurrection, even
    to any sickness, you had a
  • 52:57 - 53:01
    plan of restoration you you
    have. So for Lebanon is not
  • 53:01 - 53:04
    a dead end today. We just
    proclaim it. It's not the
  • 53:04 - 53:09
    end. It's not the end. So we
    just look at it with hope.
  • 53:09 - 53:13
    We look at the future with
    hope. And we are waiting to
  • 53:13 - 53:16
    see the deliverance of the
    Lord. We are expecting
  • 53:16 - 53:19
    expecting to see the
    deliverance of the Lord, we
  • 53:19 - 53:23
    keep our eye we keep
    watching. As these watched
  • 53:23 - 53:27
    people on the watch towers,
    were watching the watchmen
  • 53:27 - 53:32
    they were watching to see
    and we are waiting to see
  • 53:32 - 53:35
    the salvation of the Lord
    coming into our land, which
  • 53:35 - 53:40
    is waiting for it. And we
    thank you for giving us this
  • 53:40 - 53:44
    privilege to be serving your
    people in this time. This
  • 53:44 - 53:49
    this is a privilege that you
    have entrusted us to serve
  • 53:49 - 53:52
    your people. I pray for that
    you will just keep us
  • 53:52 - 53:57
    focused on you. Not only on
    the task that is around us,
  • 53:57 - 54:01
    but on on you because you
    are the one who is able to
  • 54:01 - 54:04
    just melt the mountains, all
    the difficulties will just
  • 54:04 - 54:08
    go down and every value will
    be raised up and you're able
  • 54:08 - 54:12
    to do it all. So we trust
    you. And we thank you for
  • 54:12 - 54:15
    your faithfulness and for
    being with us, sustaining
  • 54:15 - 54:19
    us, encouraging us and just
    giving us the stamina to
  • 54:19 - 54:23
    continue in Jesus name.
    Amen.
  • 54:25 - 54:27
    Lord, I thank you that you
    will not put out a
  • 54:27 - 54:34
    smoldering wick. We
    celebrate Lebanon's gospel
  • 54:34 - 54:38
    heritage. Yes. there for
    decades. It's been a light
  • 54:38 - 54:42
    for the gospel. In the last
    frontier of Christian
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    mission, the Muslim world in
    the heartland of Islam, you
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    raised up Lebanon. Lord, we
    cry out for Lebanon that the
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    enemy would not be able to
    extinguish the flame. We ask
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    Holy Spirit that you would
    blow This nation, that we
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    would once again be part of
    the solution, not part of
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    the problem that we would be
    able to see the highway
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    open. Between Lebanon, in
    all the surrounding
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    countries. Oh Lord unstop it
    Oh God, we're so anxious to
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    have relationship, physical
    contact and relationship
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    with our brothers and
    sisters across the border.
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    Oh Lord, would you open this
    part of the highway, we act.
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    And we will continue to ask
    until we see it happen until
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    it's a reality. Lord God,
    open the highway we pray,
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    open the highway. Lord
    Jesus, we ask
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    each other I thank you so
    much for this rich time of
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    just hearing from the hearts
    of noona and Robert, who
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    represents so many others in
    the land of Lebanon. Lord,
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    thank you that they have
    been faithful through all
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    these years to seek your
    face, to grow in the
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    knowledge of view, to become
    ambassadors of your kingdom
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    to the people of Lebanon
    and, and beyond to the other
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    nations of the Middle East.
    Lord, I thank you, that you
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    will honor their faith and
    the faith of of many in the
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    land of Lebanon who
    continued to put their hope
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    in you and to pray to you
    day and night tonight and
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    day Lord, thank you for the
    increase of prayer that is
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    taking place. Even during
    these difficult days Lord,
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    made that just grow and and
    intensify in the zeal and
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    passion of your people
    crying out to you to your
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    throne to see your hand move
    on behalf of Lebanon to
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    uproot the evil doers, those
    who've had such influence
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    and strongholds over the
    land of Lebanon for decades,
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    even centuries, Lord, the
    Father, you would uproot and
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    liberate the people of
    Lebanon to come to know you
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    to have the freedom to call
    upon you and, and have
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    relationship with you. And
    Lord, to grow in
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    relationship with others in
    the nations of the Middle
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    East, even with those here
    in Israel, as their heart
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    longs for. Lord, we pray for
    a spiritual breakthrough in
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    these days, for the
    outpouring of your spirit,
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    upon the land of Lebanon
    upon its people, and the
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    hearts of many would be
    turned to you, even as your
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    word declares in Isaiah 29
    will happen in a very short
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    time. Lord, we asked you
    bring that time now May this
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    be the our Lord after
    hearing all that has been
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    described, Lord, we asked
    you for that spiritual
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    breakthrough now, on behalf
    of Lebanon, we bless
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    Lebanon, the church in
    Lebanon, we thank you for
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    our brothers and sisters.
    They're in your shoes name
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    in just Jesus name. Amen.
    Thank you both. Thank you
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    for your time and for
    sharing so wonderfully
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    deeply with us about
    Lebanon. I know many others.
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    So benefit from this time
    and take it to prayer, I'm
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    sure in the days and months
    ahead. So thank you both.
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    Can you imagine living three
    kilometers from the Gaza
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    Strip, in a community where
    when you hear a siren, you
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    know you have 15 seconds to
    get to safety and that Hamas
  • 59:12 - 59:14
    a terrorist organization
    dedicated to your country's
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    destruction is sending
    rockets and incendiary
  • 59:17 - 59:20
    balloons armed with
    explosive devices aimed at
  • 59:20 - 59:24
    your home, your children's
    school and your fields.
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    Unfortunately, this has
    become a reality of life for
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    residents of Kibbutz
    alluvium. Today, we're going
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    to visit the brave people
    living in this border
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    community to see how they're
    coping with the recent
  • 59:36 - 59:37
    rocket and fire attacks.
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    I live from the kibbutz for
    30 years, the security
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    situation has changed a lot
    since then. In the first
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    years, it was a completely
    pastoral and peaceful in the
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    last actually 18 years or so
    since my youngest daughter
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    was born. We've started
    having threats from rockets
  • 59:53 - 59:57
    from from Gaza when the bomb
    threat was becoming more and
  • 59:57 - 60:01
    more severe, and the first
    place that we was protected
  • 60:01 - 60:04
    against bombs were they
    kindergardens We can't wait
  • 60:04 - 60:06
    until we hear a code read if
    to know what to do, we spend
  • 60:06 - 60:08
    a lot of time preparing. And
    we practice with the
  • 60:08 - 60:11
    children. They know that if
    there's our code read when
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    they're on a walk, not do
    dog. When they come to their
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    house, they know to do it
    for if I'm caught between
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    one place and the other, and
    there's a shelter there, and
  • 60:18 - 60:22
    I can go in and practically
    it's very important to me.
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    That means we have to
    provide children and
  • 60:34 - 60:38
    families with therapeutic
    tools that they can then put
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    into practice when they are
    in those safe rooms, that
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    it's not just a sense of
    being completely helpless.
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    Okay, what do I do? How do I
    cope with my stress? How do
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    I cope with all these
    thoughts running through my
  • 60:48 - 60:52
    mind? It's gonna pass it's
    gonna pass How do I calm
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    myself down? And then once
    everything's clear, once I
  • 60:55 - 60:59
    go outside, again, am I
    okay? Is she okay? Is he
  • 60:59 - 61:02
    okay? I'm in touch with my
    family. Is everybody okay? I
  • 61:02 - 61:05
    have to get home, how do I
    get home, it's it's people
  • 61:05 - 61:08
    having to understand how to
    like map out their lives,
  • 61:09 - 61:12
    we've seen that the impact
    has been much, much stronger
  • 61:13 - 61:17
    on children on families. Now
    we're going through 24 hours
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    or 48 hours, or 400 500
    pockets a days. And that is
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    something much, much harder
    to cope with. Consequently,
  • 61:26 - 61:30
    symptoms reactions have also
    been a lot lot harder. And
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    that's demanded from us to
    also rethink how we give
  • 61:34 - 61:37
    support, how quickly we give
    support. What is incredible,
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    and it amazes me every time
    is to see people's coping
  • 61:41 - 61:45
    skills on on how they
    function. with us. It's more
  • 61:45 - 61:48
    question of, Okay, this is a
    situation it is hard, but we
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    can cope, we can deal with
    it. And we also live in hope
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    that it will end it really
    will end.
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    The Christian embassy, you
    have our back, you help us
  • 62:08 - 62:12
    knowing that you support us
    enables us to help more
  • 62:12 - 62:15
    people. And I really mean
    that from the bottom of my
  • 62:15 - 62:18
    heart to see Christians and
    Jews working together, fills
  • 62:18 - 62:23
    my heart fills my soul with
    absolute joy, and hope. We
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    see miracles every day. But
    we just have to know to open
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    our eyes to them and to
    appreciate them. And for me,
  • 62:29 - 62:30
    this is America.
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    I want to personally thank
    you for helping protect
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    lives here along the Gaza
    border. Because of your
  • 62:38 - 62:40
    support, we have been able
    to donate these bomb
  • 62:40 - 62:43
    shelters, firefighting
    trailers, and all terrain
  • 62:43 - 62:46
    vehicles to this vulnerable
    community in southern
  • 62:46 - 62:49
    Israel, and help bring a
    sense of security to those
  • 62:49 - 62:53
    living so close to danger.
    This was all made possible
  • 62:53 - 62:56
    because faithful Christian
    donors have given to our
  • 62:56 - 62:59
    Israeli in crisis Fund,
    which enables us to respond
  • 62:59 - 63:03
    in real time whenever
    emergencies arise. So please
  • 63:03 - 63:06
    give today as we stand with
    Israel on the front lines
  • 63:06 - 63:09
    and help them protect their
    future in the promised land.
Title:
FOT21 - Tom Craig, Nuna& Robert Update on Isaiah 19 from Lebanon
Video Language:
English
Duration:
01:03:30

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