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Honoring the stories of illness | Dr. Rita Charon | TEDxAtlanta

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    Thanks very much.
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    So, here's a doctor from New York,
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    dressed in black,
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    talking to you on September 13th.
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    And you're going to think
    I'm going to talk about death,
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    as did all New Yorkers
    over the past many days and weeks.
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    Well, I am.
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    But I'm going to talk with you about that
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    in terms of joy and in terms of truth.
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    I need to tell you
    a little bit about my medicine
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    in order to get to the joy.
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    Todd is right that I came to medicine,
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    not knowing a whole lot about it,
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    but I came to medicine
    because I was a life-long reader.
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    I was the kind of kid who would get
    10 books out of the library
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    and read them all before they were due,
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    and I hope many of you were like that too.
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    And as a reader, I understood,
    once I opened my practice,
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    once I finished all the business
    of staying up all night being an intern,
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    that what I did in the office,
    what patients paid me to do,
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    was to pay exquisite attention
    to the narratives that they gave me -
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    which were in words, in silences,
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    in those facial expressions
    that we saw earlier today,
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    in their body, in how the body changed,
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    in the tracings and pictures
    that we had of their body,
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    in what other people said about them -
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    and that it was my task
    to cohere these stories
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    so that they, at least provisionally,
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    made some sense;
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    to take these multiple
    contradictory narratives
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    and let them build something
    that we could act on.
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    So that's what we did.
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    I realized right away
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    that I didn't know very much about stories
    even though I was a voracious reader,
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    and I went kind of timidly
    to the English department -
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    I was at Columbia already -
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    I went to the English department;
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    I said, "Could you teach a doctor
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    something about stories
    and how they work?"
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    And God bless them,
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    the English department
    was very happy to take me in.
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    You know, I wrote prescriptions for them;
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    (Laughter)
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    I gave them referrals.
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    But I think they really joined me
    in the idea that the knowledge they had,
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    very specialized narratological knowledge,
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    could do something good in the world.
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    They didn't let me out
    until I had a master's degree, a PhD.
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    They let me write a dissertation
    on Henry James, who is my beloved author.
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    And I want to tell you
    how the story training -
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    awakening and nourishing
    my own sense of story -
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    how it transformed
    my teaching and my practice.
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    This was not the first time that anyone
    had put literature with medicine.
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    By then - this was the '90s already -
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    by then, there were persons in -
    I hope you know this -
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    in philosophy, in history,
    in literary studies, in ethics
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    who had come into medicine,
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    and they were all helping us
    to improve our practice
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    based on human learning
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    in addition to the scientific
    knowledge we all had.
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    So, I was by no means the first one
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    to bring literary studies
    into the practice of medicine.
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    But somehow, by starting as a doctor first
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    and then getting all this training
    in stories and how to understand them,
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    I think I had a more -
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    my sleeves were more rolled up
    in using this knowledge.
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    So my colleagues and I at Columbia
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    kind of invented, or created, a field
    that we called "narrative medicine,"
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    which we define very simply
    as clinical practice
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    fortified by the knowledge
    of what to do with stories.
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    So that with these skills -
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    in first of all having a sense of story,
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    and then being able to recognize
    when someone is telling you a story,
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    to absorb the story,
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    to receive it whole,
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    to receive all of it,
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    including even those unsaid
    hints and guesses
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    about what might be left unsaid,
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    to absorb them,
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    to interpret them,
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    to honor them,
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    and then to be moved by them
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    and to be moved by them to action.
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    So this is what we called
    narrative medicine.
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    We found very effective, economical ways
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    to teach
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    the skills of reading and writing
    and storytelling and receiving
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    to medical students, nursing students,
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    doctors, social workers,
    chaplains, patients, families -
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    all the people who come
    in and out of hospitals.
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    I'm assuming that some of you
    are from healthcare,
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    either as professionals
    or as patients or as families.
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    You know the kinds of silences
    there are in those elevators in hospitals.
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    You know what happens
    when you pass someone in the hallway
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    who has no legs or who's bleeding.
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    You know that.
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    Our challenge was to bring
    to these people,
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    perhaps used to illness,
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    perhaps hardened against it,
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    ways to open their own springs
    of imagination,
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    of creativity,
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    of receptivity
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    so that they would not just
    not lose their sense of story,
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    but, indeed, build it.
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    There were amazing
    transformations in my practice.
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    I work in a rather shabby clinic
    in Presbyterian Hospital,
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    which is in New York - in the way,
    way upper parts of Manhattan -
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    and as I improved
    my own capacity to read closely,
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    where every word counts,
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    I was able to learn how
    to listen closely,
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    where every word counts,
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    So, in the office,
    when I saw a new patient,
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    I wouldn't ask millions
    of questions anymore,
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    like, no doubt, many of you
    have been asked by doctors.
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    Typically what we do,
    faced with a stranger,
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    is we kind of start at the top
    and work down.
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    I'm sure you've had this:
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    Do you have headaches?
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    Do you have nosebleeds?
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    Do you have trouble with your hearing?
    With your swallowing?
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    Do you have trouble with your breathing?
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    And all the way down.
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    And what operations have you had?
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    And what allergies do you have?
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    And what medicines are you on?
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    So I learned not to do that,
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    and instead to say,
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    "I will be your doctor,
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    and so I need to know a great deal
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    about your body
    and your health and your life.
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    Please tell me what you think
    I should know about your situation."
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    And when I did that,
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    and when I let persons simply answer,
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    instead of writing things down
    or typing or computing,
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    I would simply sit in my chair,
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    hands in my lap,
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    and absorb what was being said.
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    And what I learned,
    right from the beginning,
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    is that persons were not only able
    but deeply thirsty
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    to give profound, detailed,
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    eloquent accounts of themselves.
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    They didn't always know how
    or how to start.
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    One woman says, "You want me to talk?"
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    (Laughter)
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    Another man, one of the first
    to whom I made this invitation,
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    started to tell me
    about the death of his father
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    and then the death of his brother
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    and then the trouble he was having
    with his teenage son.
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    And then he starts to cry.
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    I broke my silence:
    I said, "Why do you weep?"
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    He says, "No one
    ever let me do this before."
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    So a woman I saw - I just saw her
    a few days ago when I made a house call.
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    Well, she's been my patient
    for a long time.
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    She -
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    as anyone I speak about
    or [write] about,
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    knows what I'm to say,
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    has read what I've written
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    and has given, as we say,
    informed consent for me to do so.
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    So I'm not breaking any secrets.
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    I certainly won't use the name,
    but she has - we have her blessings.
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    She had breast cancer 20 years ago.
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    She had a mastectomy -
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    sorry, she had a lumpectomy,
    small operation.
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    She was on medicine for five years;
    she was told she was cured.
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    About a year ago, she developed
    a lump in that same breast.
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    On biopsy, it was a new cancer.
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    She was stoic about the recurrence.
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    She underwent a mastectomy this time.
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    It's a big operation;
    it was a disfiguring operation.
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    She declined breast reconstruction.
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    She said she was too old for that.
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    And she recovered uneventfully
    from the surgery.
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    But then she began to worry
    that the cancer would come back.
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    She was in my office every other week.
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    On the off-week, she was
    in the office of the breast surgeon.
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    She felt a new lump;
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    she felt something funny under her arm;
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    there was something
    not right about the scar.
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    She was terrified that it would come back.
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    We kept reassuring her:
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    "No, that's just how the tissues heal";
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    "No, that's your cancer markers."
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    We did blood tests
    to make sure there was no cancer.
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    I did an ultrasound of the scar.
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    She could not be reassured,
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    and so she thought
    that we were deceiving her.
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    Finally, after another one of these exams,
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    breast examinations in the office,
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    I thought I could imagine
    what was deep to the scar.
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    I leaned back
    against the sink in my office.
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    I told her I thought
    I understood what the fear was.
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    I told her I thought what she feared
    was that she would die,
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    that she had the courage and the vision
    from these two illnesses
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    to know what many of us know
    but refuse to really face up to:
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    that is simply we will die.
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    I told her that I thought
    she was in the glare of this knowledge.
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    I said, "We don't know
    what will end your life.
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    Your body may well harbor now
    the disease that will do so.
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    It might be the breast cancer.
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    It might be something else.
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    But we know something
    will take your life."
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    I said I couldn't do more than we had
    to assure her of her health,
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    but here is something I could do:
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    I could stand with her
    in the glare of that fear.
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    And right after that conversation,
    I checked back with her by phone.
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    She said she felt much better.
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    She felt much more relaxed.
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    She wasn't worried the way she had been,
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    and she was sure that I was right.
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    Now, the way I knew that,
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    the way I came to understand it
    is that I'd been writing about her,
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    and I'd been showing her
    what I wrote about her.
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    And in that way, we made contact
    through her illness,
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    through her fear,
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    through the glare of death
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    that was there now, in the room with us -
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    as it always is -
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    but there it was in the room with us,
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    and we could ...
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    accept it.
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    And more than that,
    we made contact through it.
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    It helped me and this woman
    to understand what medicine is for,
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    and even bigger than that,
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    in excess of the medicine,
    what ordinary living is for.
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    It's for the making of contact.
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    It's through the contact.
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    And of course, illness exposes,
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    so that I'm privileged as a doctor
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    to be in situations where there is
    very little separating me from a patient.
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    Do you see what I mean by "exposes"?
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    You're down to the floor of who you are
    in the presence of illness.
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    So, not only did we kind of help
    the immediate problem
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    with her own fear,
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    but we made enduring,
    life-long contact -
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    the two of us.
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    This is possible all the time.
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    This is possible all the time.
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    I told her -
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    I think I told her about a novel
    by John Banville called "The Infinities,"
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    in which he overhears Zeus
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    up on Mount Olympus
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    looking down at these mortals
    that he's created,
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    and Zeus envies the human beings
    their mortality.
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    He says, "It's your death
    that gives your lives meaning."
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    And so my patient and I understand that,
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    that it's in the dying,
    in the limits of the life,
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    that we have our meaning,
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    and that we pour ourselves
    into those things that endure -
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    the family, progeny,
    work, art, dance,
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    life,
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    play.
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    Those things that will endure
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    in time and with others
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    are those things that give us meaning.
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    And they're only available to us
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    through the presence
    and the truth of death.
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    When I say, "What is medicine for?"
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    my patients have been able to teach me,
    as have my students, what it's for.
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    When we teach narrative
    medicine in groups,
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    it doesn't matter who - doctors,
    nurses, chaplains, patients, families -
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    we all join together in a clearing.
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    These narrative storytellings
    help us to form clearings -
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    you know, in the forest
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    when the trees kind of thin out,
    and it's moss and it's ferns? -
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    and we're able,
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    many different ones of us
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    from often rather divided camps,
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    can come together
    in the clearing of storytelling,
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    and within the clearing
    of this human gift of mortality,
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    and that's where the truth is exposed,
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    and that's where the freedoms emit.
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    What medicine is for
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    is to donate the expertise
    to an act of fidelity,
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    to give someone company
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    and to form staunch, sturdy affiliation
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    within our clearings,
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    within our dyads,
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    within our shabby clinics
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    so that no one has to be
    in the glare of sickness,
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    or even the glare of death,
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    alone.
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    I'm fortunate to be a doctor
    to be able to do this.
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    Anyone in any enterprise
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    has the chance for making contact,
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    as in this room - a clearing.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Honoring the stories of illness | Dr. Rita Charon | TEDxAtlanta
Description:

What can a doctor do with her patients' stories? How can the telling of and listening to stories create "clearings" for patients and doctors - and anyone - to aid in healing work?

Rita Charon is founder and Executive Director of the Program in Narrative Medicine at Columbia and New York-Presbyterian Hospital. She completed her MD at Harvard in 1978 and her PhD in English at Columbia in 1999. Her research focuses on doctor-patient relationships, narrative skill in medicine and reflective practice. She has received a Rockefeller Foundation Bellagio residency, a Guggenheim Fellowship and research funding from the NIH, the NEH and several private foundations.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx.

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