What singing orcas are trying to tell us | Pierre Robert de Latour | TEDxUniversitedeTours
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0:22 - 0:24(Video) (Orcas' sounds)
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1:04 - 1:06(Applause)
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1:14 - 1:18Orcas are magnificent creatures.
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1:19 - 1:22They don't deserve
the nickname of "killer whales". -
1:23 - 1:27First of all, they are not whales,
they belong to the dolphin family. -
1:27 - 1:32And second, they've never
attacked any humans, -
1:32 - 1:35in their natural habitat, that is.
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1:35 - 1:40The first thing you feel
when you dive next to orcas -
1:40 - 1:45is an intense joy, the joy of being
accepted into their social space -
1:45 - 1:48and be able to observe
for a few dozen of minutes -
1:49 - 1:50their underwater life.
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1:52 - 1:57Occasionally, they get curious
and come close, very close. -
1:59 - 2:03In this gaze, you can spot
a vast intelligence. -
2:03 - 2:06You feel scanned, analyzed, scrutinized,
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2:06 - 2:11as if they had the power
to access our deepest emotions. -
2:11 - 2:14But above all, you don't feel the fear,
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2:14 - 2:18you don't feel the tiredness,
you don't feel the cold. -
2:18 - 2:22You just feel a wave of emotions
and energy that overwhelms you -
2:22 - 2:25and thrills you from head to toes.
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2:26 - 2:29I feel it more and more each year.
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2:29 - 2:34Today, I know why,
and I'm going to share it with you. -
2:35 - 2:40My first encounter with orcas
goes back to 1997. -
2:40 - 2:44It was two days before
an underwater fishing competition. -
2:44 - 2:46This encounter changed
the course of my life. -
2:46 - 2:48It was like an irresistible call.
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2:48 - 2:50Two days later, I win this competition,
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2:50 - 2:54and thanks to my sponsor's incentive,
I'm able to finance my first trip -
2:54 - 2:58to go dive with orcas in the
north of Norway a year later. -
2:58 - 3:05This first expedition in 1998 was
followed by a long series of others, -
3:05 - 3:0821 seasons without interruption
during which I accumulated -
3:08 - 3:11more than 6,000 underwater
encounters closest to orcas. -
3:11 - 3:13This experience has enabled
me to design a method -
3:13 - 3:18to approach and interact with them
respectfully that is a reference today. -
3:18 - 3:23I've dedicated most of my time
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3:23 - 3:27to the study of orcas' social
behavior and body language. -
3:28 - 3:31This presentation
refers to "singing orcas" -
3:31 - 3:34but I made my first underwater
recording only in 2016. -
3:34 - 3:39It was near Tromsø in Kaldfjord,
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3:41 - 3:43and it was a magical moment.
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3:44 - 3:49During the day just before the test,
we observed dozen of humpback whales -
3:49 - 3:53and several hundreds orcas
that moved in the middle of the fjord -
3:53 - 3:55close to our anchoring.
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3:55 - 4:00At nightfall, we took our aluminium craft
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4:00 - 4:02and we went to the site.
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4:03 - 4:06The atmosphere was a bit special.
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4:06 - 4:08There was no wind
which it's pretty rare. -
4:08 - 4:10The fjord's surface resembled a mirror,
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4:10 - 4:13and we could see on each side
of this narrow fjord, -
4:13 - 4:14the snow on the mountains.
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4:14 - 4:17It was a rather breathtaking moment.
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4:17 - 4:21So we stopped the engine
and I immersed my hydrophone -
4:21 - 4:24in the most absolute silence
at a dozen meters deep. -
4:24 - 4:26A hydrophone is an underwater microphone
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4:26 - 4:30that allows you to record
sounds while listening to them. -
4:32 - 4:36I connected the speaker, and then ...
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4:36 - 4:38Well, come with me on the boat.
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4:39 - 4:41(Songs of orcas and humpback whales)
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4:59 - 5:03A startling and perfectly orchestrated
melody rised from the dephts. -
5:03 - 5:06I was overwhelmed
by the beauty of these songs. -
5:06 - 5:09Our boat was at the interface
between two worlds, -
5:09 - 5:12the orcas' world and
their secrets under the surface, -
5:12 - 5:13and the sky and the stars above us.
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5:13 - 5:16In the magic of the moment, I imagined
these two worlds connected -
5:16 - 5:21and what connected these spaces
was the songs coming from the depths. -
5:22 - 5:26The northern lights started
just above our heads. -
5:27 - 5:29The singing increased
in intensity and harmony. -
5:29 - 5:33(Songs of orcas and whales)
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5:41 - 5:45Each orca, each humpback whale
was playing its own partition -
5:45 - 5:49in what I called later
"The abyss's symphony". -
5:49 - 5:51But above all, what was happening
was going far beyond this. -
5:51 - 5:54It was not just an harmonious
melody pleasant to the ear, -
5:54 - 5:58I felt enveloped,
permeated by those songs. -
5:58 - 5:59I felt a wave of energy,
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5:59 - 6:04the same energy that flows
when I dive in the vicinity of orcas. -
6:07 - 6:12While I dedicated all these years
to the sole study of orcas' body language, -
6:12 - 6:15I missed something important.
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6:16 - 6:20I realized that evening of December 2016
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6:20 - 6:24that sounds are of vital
importance in orcas' lives, -
6:24 - 6:27and that that was where
we needed to direct our research. -
6:29 - 6:32A few weeks after the end
of the season in March 2017, -
6:32 - 6:36I went to Guadeloupe to meet
Pierre Lavagne de Castellan. -
6:36 - 6:41Pierre is a bioacoustician
and he's the benchmark, -
6:41 - 6:44Mister "Song of whales
and sperm whales". -
6:45 - 6:47He's been in that field
for more than 30 years. -
6:47 - 6:50During our meetings, Pierre used to say,
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6:50 - 6:52"The message is in the song."
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6:52 - 6:55He'd hammer it like a leitmotiv,
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6:55 - 6:59and I was hanging on
his words, saying to myself, -
6:59 - 7:02"But what is this message?
What are they saying to each other? -
7:02 - 7:05What are they trying to tell us?"
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7:05 - 7:08I left Guadeloupe with
more questions than answers. -
7:09 - 7:14I went back to France and I started
to do research on the internet -
7:14 - 7:18to try to understand these concepts.
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7:19 - 7:23I had no knowledge about sound.
So I googled "what is a sound?" -
7:23 - 7:26A sound is a wave. Okay.
What is a wave? -
7:26 - 7:30A wave is an oscillation
through a transfer of energy. -
7:30 - 7:32Okay.
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7:32 - 7:34It's defined by its
amplitude, its frequency. -
7:34 - 7:38It can be visualized by a graph.
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7:38 - 7:41There are electromagnetic waves,
mechanical waves, -
7:41 - 7:43stationary waves ...
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7:45 - 7:49All of this didn't really speak to me.
I didn't see how I could use it. -
7:49 - 7:52But one day, as I am searching
about stationary waves, -
7:52 - 7:57I stumble upon the work
of Ernst Friedrich Chladni. -
7:57 - 8:04Ernst Friedrich Chladni is an engineer,
physicist and musician -
8:04 - 8:10who discovered how to visualize sounds.
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8:11 - 8:15He had the idea to use a copper plate,
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8:16 - 8:18attached to a stand,
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8:18 - 8:21on which he put a thin layer of sand,
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8:21 - 8:25and on the periphery of which
he used his violoin bow. -
8:27 - 8:30Look at the result, it's surprising.
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8:31 - 8:33(Video) (Grindings of violin bow)
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8:39 - 8:42In this experiment, we can observe
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8:42 - 8:46that the sand moves
on the surface of the plate -
8:46 - 8:48and forms a geometrical figure.
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8:48 - 8:51These geometric patterns are called
"Chladni's figures" or "Chladni’s plate". -
8:51 - 8:57Chladni made a whole catalog
of several thousands of them -
8:57 - 8:59because what's interesting
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8:59 - 9:04is that each frequency
produces a specific image. -
9:05 - 9:08Now where it gets truly exciting
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9:08 - 9:12is when Alexander Lauterwasser,
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9:12 - 9:16who is a German researcher
and nature photographer, -
9:16 - 9:21discovered recently that the shape
of some living species -
9:21 - 9:25was the exact copy of Chladni's plates.
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9:26 - 9:28On this picture from his book
"Water Sound Images," -
9:28 - 9:33we can see a flower with
its corresponding Chladni's figure. -
9:33 - 9:37It can also be the back of a turtle,
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9:37 - 9:41or this picture taken under a microscope
of the Diatom Arachnoidiscus -
9:41 - 9:44that is the exact copy
of the Chladni's figure -
9:44 - 9:46corresponding to
5,000 Hertz frequency. -
9:46 - 9:50From his discovery
Alexander Lauterwasser theorizes -
9:50 - 9:54"the shape of living beings
originates from sound vibrations." -
9:55 - 10:00The shape of living beings
originates from sound vibrations. -
10:02 - 10:06A few years before him, Hans Jenny,
the Swiss scientist, -
10:06 - 10:11worked on the effects of sound on matter,
especially on liquids and semi-liquids. -
10:11 - 10:13Here's one of his experiments.
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10:24 - 10:28We can see that under the effect
of a sound vibration, -
10:28 - 10:32this semi-liquid paste that usually sits
at the bottom of the speaker -
10:32 - 10:36rises up, sets itself up
despite the gravitational force -
10:36 - 10:38and follows specific movements.
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10:38 - 10:44According to Hans Jenny, these movements
are not chaotic nor random, -
10:44 - 10:46they are perfectly organized
and reproducible. -
10:46 - 10:50When I saw this experiment,
I immediately made a connection -
10:50 - 10:53with old pictures that I took
of my first expeditions. -
10:54 - 10:59They show a thin liquid film
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10:59 - 11:03that is thrown forward from
the orcas' lower jaw while they swim. -
11:03 - 11:06Initially, I paid no attention
to these pictures, -
11:06 - 11:10but now I could see a link
with Hans Jenny's experiments. -
11:11 - 11:13There is no reason for this phenomenon.
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11:13 - 11:18I asked a hydrodynamic engineer
specialized in fluid dynamics. -
11:18 - 11:20According to him,
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11:20 - 11:25these shapes can't exist
in the absence of an outside force. -
11:27 - 11:30Could orcas be creating
this phenomenon? -
11:31 - 11:34Could orcas be producing this frequency
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11:35 - 11:39that enables them to produce
these ephemeral artistic shapes? -
11:43 - 11:46I've been studying orcas since 1998.
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11:46 - 11:49These creatures belong
to the cetacean family. -
11:49 - 11:52They have a bigger brain
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11:52 - 11:56that is potentially more powerful,
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11:56 - 11:58more efficient than that of humans.
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11:58 - 12:01They're conscious of themselves
and of their surroundings. -
12:01 - 12:03I saw them solve complex problems,
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12:03 - 12:08especially by adapting their hunting
strategy depending on circumstances -
12:08 - 12:10in an extremely reactive way.
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12:10 - 12:14They are organized in society,
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12:14 - 12:17in family groups that are led
by the oldest female, the matriarch. -
12:18 - 12:23Orcas possess acoustic organs.
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12:23 - 12:27They pass on their knowledge,
their culture, their language, -
12:27 - 12:31from generation to generation
for millions of years. -
12:31 - 12:34Our civilization is 5,000 years old.
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12:35 - 12:38Our technology has not
reached 200 years of age yet. -
12:43 - 12:46We, humans,
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12:48 - 12:49are dominating the world.
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12:49 - 12:52We control almost all of the living.
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12:52 - 12:58We think we know everything,
but there's still so much to discover. -
12:58 - 13:04Pierre Lavagne de Castellan, him again,
has observed multiple times -
13:04 - 13:07humpback whales
getting together in groups -
13:07 - 13:11and giving acoustic
massages to each other. -
13:12 - 13:14These recent observations show
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13:14 - 13:19that whales but also dolphins and orcas
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13:19 - 13:24have developed throughout evolution
know-hows that enable them to use sounds -
13:24 - 13:28for something other
than simple communication. -
13:31 - 13:35I pursue my research
with the hope, maybe a bit foolish, -
13:35 - 13:38of understanding these phenomenons
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13:38 - 13:43because what I feel
when I dive close to orcas, -
13:43 - 13:45this well-being that I feel,
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13:45 - 13:49is due, in my opinion,
to the sounds they produce. -
13:51 - 13:55Our oceans are endangered
because of human activities: -
13:56 - 13:59the consequences of climate change,
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13:59 - 14:02noise pollution, chemical pollution,
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14:02 - 14:06overfishing, sea traffic, plastic ...
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14:06 - 14:11It's time to change our habits
to reduce these threats. -
14:12 - 14:16Let's save our oceans
while we still can. -
14:16 - 14:20Let's protect orcas,
this luminous oceanic civilization. -
14:21 - 14:25Let's uncover the secrets
of their language. -
14:26 - 14:28We will gain access
to their knowledge -
14:28 - 14:31and then, yes,
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14:32 - 14:37we shall be able to heal ourselves
with the songs of orcas. -
14:37 - 14:39Thank you.
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14:39 - 14:41(Applause)
- Title:
- What singing orcas are trying to tell us | Pierre Robert de Latour | TEDxUniversitedeTours
- Description:
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Expert in orcas' behavior, Pierre Robert de Latour is first of all a freediving enthusiast. He has been diving with cetaceans since 1998, and he has performed a staggering 6,200 divings with orcas.
Cetaceans are familiar but mysterious animals and a form of civilization on its own. They are intelligent and have knowledge we don't even know about. This is what Pierre Robert de Latour is convinced of since he did an acoustic listening of humpback whales in Norway in 2016. To understand and access this unknown knowledge, the solution is to decipher their language. What if the sounds produced by orcas were more than just the simple communication between cetaceans? The acoustic of marine mammals is so peculiar that it contains unexpected capabilities. By understanding them and protecting them, we might consider following their example. Now one question remains: how many secrets does the melody of the abyss have?
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