What happens to people in solitary confinement
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0:01 - 0:04The drive through the world's
most secure prison is beautiful. -
0:05 - 0:08The federal government's
only supermax prison, known as ADX, -
0:08 - 0:11is 90 miles south of Denver.
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0:11 - 0:12Standing outside the building,
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0:13 - 0:16ADX looks like a newish
suburban middle school. -
0:16 - 0:17(Laughter)
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0:17 - 0:20The lobby is clean and bright;
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0:20 - 0:23there's big windows
and clear views of the mountains; -
0:23 - 0:27and a polite front-desk attendant
with a kiosk selling travel mugs. -
0:27 - 0:29(Laughter)
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0:29 - 0:32On the wall is a large plaque that reads,
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0:32 - 0:35"The best prize that life offers
is the chance to work hard -
0:35 - 0:36at work worth doing."
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0:37 - 0:41Just past it is a huge
framed photo of Alcatraz. -
0:42 - 0:45And down the stairs,
at the end of a long hallway, -
0:45 - 0:48are 400 men decaying in isolation cells.
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0:50 - 0:54I work on cases involving
the constitutional rights of prisoners. -
0:54 - 0:57Now, people have differing views
about prisoners' rights. -
0:58 - 1:00But there's something
more people can agree on: -
1:00 - 1:01torture.
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1:02 - 1:04The US government
says it doesn't use torture, -
1:04 - 1:07and we condemn other countries,
like Iran and North Korea, -
1:07 - 1:09for their use of torture.
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1:09 - 1:13But some people think the so-called
worst of the worst deserve it: -
1:13 - 1:17terrorists, mass murderers,
the really "bad" people. -
1:18 - 1:21Now I personally believe
that no one deserves to be tortured -
1:21 - 1:22by the US government.
-
1:22 - 1:24But that's me.
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1:24 - 1:31(Applause)
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1:31 - 1:32No matter where you fall,
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1:32 - 1:34there's a few things
I need you to understand -
1:34 - 1:35before I continue.
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1:36 - 1:39First, we do torture people
here in America, -
1:39 - 1:41tens of thousands of them every day.
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1:41 - 1:43It's called solitary confinement.
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1:44 - 1:46It's done in our names,
using our tax dollars, -
1:46 - 1:47behind closed doors.
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1:48 - 1:49And as a result,
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1:49 - 1:52we're undermining the core values
of our justice system. -
1:53 - 1:55Built with state-of-the-art technology,
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1:55 - 1:58ADX has nearly perfected
solitary confinement. -
1:59 - 2:01Each man spends 23 hours a day
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2:01 - 2:04alone in a cell
the size of a small bathroom. -
2:05 - 2:08Virtually every aspect of his life
occurs in that cell. -
2:08 - 2:10But aside from sleeping and eating,
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2:10 - 2:13which he does within
an arm's reach of his toilet, -
2:13 - 2:15there aren't many aspects of life.
-
2:16 - 2:20Correctional officers push food trays
through slots in the doors -
2:20 - 2:22and take the men
to solitary exercise cages -
2:22 - 2:25that are referred to
by prisoners and staff alike, -
2:25 - 2:27without irony, as dog runs.
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2:28 - 2:29Other than that,
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2:29 - 2:31these men are locked in cement closets,
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2:31 - 2:33all day, every day.
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2:34 - 2:36Two steps forward, two steps back.
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2:36 - 2:37That's it.
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2:38 - 2:41They can't see the nearby
mountains or any trees -- -
2:41 - 2:43"nothing living, not so much
as a blade of grass," -
2:43 - 2:46is how one man in ADX described it.
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2:46 - 2:50Some people report that after years
of not looking at anything -
2:50 - 2:51further than 10 feet away,
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2:51 - 2:53their eyesight has deteriorated so much
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2:53 - 2:56that they can't focus
on faraway objects anymore. -
2:57 - 2:59The isolation is so deep and profound
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2:59 - 3:03that one of our clients would lie
on the floor of his cell for hours, -
3:03 - 3:05just hoping to catch a glimpse
of someone's feet -
3:05 - 3:07as they walked past the door of his cell.
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3:08 - 3:11Another befriended a wasp
that flew into his cell, -
3:11 - 3:14feeding it and talking to it
like a friend. -
3:15 - 3:17Some try to communicate
with fellow prisoners -
3:17 - 3:19by yelling through the shower drains.
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3:19 - 3:21Still though, many of these men
lost their voices -
3:21 - 3:24after talking with us for just an hour.
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3:25 - 3:28Their vocal cords were out of practice
speaking for that long. -
3:29 - 3:33We know the impact
of long-term isolation is devastating. -
3:33 - 3:35This borders on common sense.
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3:36 - 3:38It's why harsh prison systems
and torture regimes -
3:39 - 3:42routinely use solitary
as a form of severe punishment. -
3:42 - 3:46And why none of us would tolerate
having a loved one, -
3:46 - 3:48like a parent or a child,
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3:48 - 3:52locked alone in a small bathroom
for days, let alone years. -
3:53 - 3:54Or decades.
-
3:56 - 3:58In the course of representing
that first client at ADX, -
3:58 - 4:01we learned about another man,
Tommy Silverstein, -
4:01 - 4:04who the Federal Bureau of Prisons
put in solitary confinement -
4:04 - 4:08under a "no human contact" order in 1983,
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4:08 - 4:10after he killed a corrections officer.
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4:10 - 4:12Tommy was 31 years old.
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4:13 - 4:15Now he's 66.
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4:15 - 4:18He's been in solitary
confinement for 35 years. -
4:20 - 4:24Struggling to find the words
to capture his experience of ADX, -
4:24 - 4:27Tommy, who has become
an accomplished artist, -
4:27 - 4:28drew it instead.
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4:30 - 4:33Unless we start to change
how we treat prisoners in this country, -
4:33 - 4:37he'll probably be there
for the rest of his life. -
4:38 - 4:40Both John McCain and Nelson Mandela
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4:40 - 4:42said that of all the horrors
they suffered in prison, -
4:42 - 4:45solitary confinement was the worst.
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4:45 - 4:47That's because solitary
puts people at risk -
4:47 - 4:50of losing their grasp on who they are,
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4:50 - 4:53of how and whether
they're connected to a larger world. -
4:54 - 4:56As psychologist Dr. Craig Haney explains,
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4:56 - 4:59that's because human identity
is socially created. -
5:00 - 5:03We understand ourselves through
our relationships with other people. -
5:04 - 5:08Solitary confinement can make you change
what you think about yourself. -
5:08 - 5:11It can make you doubt
whether you even have a self. -
5:11 - 5:15Some people in solitary
aren't even sure they exist, -
5:15 - 5:18so they'll mouth off
to a corrections officer -
5:18 - 5:20and end up getting shackled or beaten.
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5:20 - 5:23But at least then, they know they exist.
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5:24 - 5:29Over time, some of the men in ADX
break down in obvious ways, -
5:29 - 5:32like banging their heads
on the walls of their cells -
5:32 - 5:34or smearing themselves with feces.
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5:35 - 5:38Or attempting suicide,
some of them successfully. -
5:39 - 5:40Many people cut themselves
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5:40 - 5:44just to feel the pain that keeps them
tethered to the real world. -
5:44 - 5:46Others adjust,
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5:46 - 5:49showing no outward sign of mental illness.
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5:49 - 5:52But there's grave harm
in the adjustment itself. -
5:53 - 5:55That's because the experience
of long-term isolation -
5:55 - 5:59can paradoxically lead
to social withdrawal. -
5:59 - 6:01At first, people are starved
for human contact, -
6:01 - 6:02but over time,
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6:02 - 6:05it becomes disorienting, even frightening.
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6:05 - 6:07They can't handle it anymore.
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6:08 - 6:11All of this amounts
to a prolonged social death. -
6:11 - 6:15The men in ADX are stuck
in suspended animation. -
6:15 - 6:17Not really part of this world,
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6:17 - 6:21they're not really part of any world
that's fully and tangibly human. -
6:21 - 6:25It's for all of these reasons
that international human rights law -
6:25 - 6:28prohibits the use
of long-term solitary confinement. -
6:29 - 6:33In fact, the UN has called on governments
to ban the use of solitary -
6:33 - 6:34for more than 15 days.
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6:36 - 6:37As of today,
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6:37 - 6:42Tommy Silverstein has been
in solitary for 12,815 days. -
6:44 - 6:47Now in judging other countries'
human rights records, -
6:47 - 6:50the US State Department has called
the use of long-term solitary -
6:50 - 6:52a human rights violation.
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6:52 - 6:54In 2009, for example,
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6:55 - 7:02State Department condemned
Israel, Iran, Indonesia and Yemen -
7:02 - 7:03for their use of solitary.
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7:04 - 7:07But we allow it to happen on our own soil.
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7:08 - 7:12When a prison is located in the US
instead of China, -
7:12 - 7:17when it's run by the federal government
and not some rogue sheriff, -
7:17 - 7:20when it has state-of-the-art technology
and gleaming floors, -
7:20 - 7:23not overcrowded cells
and decrepit facilities, -
7:23 - 7:26it's harder to believe
that torture happens there. -
7:26 - 7:31But it's important to entertain the idea
that, sometimes, this too -
7:31 - 7:33is what torture looks like.
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7:34 - 7:35As a civil rights lawyer,
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7:35 - 7:38I believe it's important
to ensure that people, -
7:38 - 7:41even those convicted of terrible crimes,
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7:41 - 7:43aren't tortured by our government.
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7:43 - 7:45And if this talk were a movie,
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7:45 - 7:49I'd tell you next about how we fought
and fought and eventually won. -
7:51 - 7:52But this isn't a movie.
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7:52 - 7:56So I'll tell you, instead,
about how deeply this injustice is hidden. -
7:56 - 7:58How difficult it is to expose it,
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7:58 - 8:01and why it's important that we do.
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8:02 - 8:06You'd think that lawyers,
people who work in the justice system, -
8:06 - 8:08would know what happens in our prisons.
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8:09 - 8:12But I'm a lawyer, and I live
less than two hours away from ADX. -
8:13 - 8:15And until we went
to see that first client, -
8:15 - 8:17I didn't know anything about it.
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8:17 - 8:19I don't think that's an accident.
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8:20 - 8:23ADX walls itself off from public scrutiny.
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8:24 - 8:26In the 25 years since it opened,
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8:26 - 8:30it's allowed only a single visit
by human rights organizations. -
8:30 - 8:33Journalists are routinely denied entry.
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8:33 - 8:34Mail is censored.
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8:35 - 8:38And even when rare family visits occur,
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8:38 - 8:40they're monitored
by an unseen government official -
8:40 - 8:42who can cut the visit off without notice
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8:42 - 8:45if he thinks that the prisoner
is talking in too much detail -
8:45 - 8:47about the conditions in ADX.
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8:48 - 8:52In China, in Russia,
they keep out the human rights observers, -
8:52 - 8:54keep out the media, keep out the UN.
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8:55 - 8:56And so do we.
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8:57 - 9:00ADX is, in the words of one journalist,
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9:00 - 9:02"a black site on American soil."
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9:03 - 9:07We know that secrecy is a hallmark
of places that torture. -
9:08 - 9:11But after years of shining a light,
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9:11 - 9:15we now know more about
the conditions in Guantanamo -
9:15 - 9:16than we do at ADX.
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9:17 - 9:18Five years ago,
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9:19 - 9:22when there was a hunger strike
and force-feeding at Guantanamo, -
9:22 - 9:24the same thing was happening at ADX.
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9:24 - 9:26But you probably didn't hear about it
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9:26 - 9:28because the government
gagged family members and lawyers -
9:28 - 9:30from talking about it.
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9:31 - 9:32But here's the thing:
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9:32 - 9:36the American criminal justice system
is supposed to be transparent. -
9:37 - 9:39And before someone gets sent to prison,
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9:39 - 9:40that's largely true.
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9:41 - 9:44Legislators meet in public
to debate and define the laws -
9:44 - 9:46that prohibit criminal conduct.
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9:47 - 9:51Citizens in our community
serve as jurors on criminal trials. -
9:51 - 9:53And if you want to watch a trial,
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9:53 - 9:55the courtroom doors are wide open.
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9:56 - 9:59After the trial, though,
our commitment to transparency ends. -
10:00 - 10:02With the prison door securely shut,
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10:02 - 10:04what happens behind prison walls
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10:04 - 10:06stays behind prison walls.
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10:06 - 10:08And without the scrutiny
of the public gaze, -
10:08 - 10:10the darkness festers.
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10:12 - 10:13Other than execution,
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10:13 - 10:16incarceration is the most
intrusive power of the state: -
10:16 - 10:19the deprivation of citizens' liberty.
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10:19 - 10:21But no government institution
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10:21 - 10:24is more opaque and less
accountable than prison. -
10:24 - 10:27Even though prisons
are supported by tax payers -
10:27 - 10:30and return 95 percent
of their residents to our communities. -
10:31 - 10:36It's that secrecy that allows
the ADX to disappear people. -
10:37 - 10:41And so we have an obligation,
said Justice Kennedy, -
10:41 - 10:43as a democracy and as a people,
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10:43 - 10:46"we should know what happens
after the prisoner is taken away." -
10:46 - 10:50The prison system is the concern
and responsibility of every citizen. -
10:50 - 10:52This is your justice system.
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10:52 - 10:54These are your prisons.
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10:54 - 10:56Torture happens in the dark.
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10:56 - 11:01And so we need to embrace the admonition
that sunlight is the best disinfectant. -
11:01 - 11:05Not only because we need to know
what happens inside ADX, -
11:05 - 11:07but because the knowing itself
can create change. -
11:09 - 11:12There's an axiom in physics
called the uncertainty principle. -
11:13 - 11:17It teaches that the mere
fact of observation -
11:17 - 11:19can alter, will alter,
-
11:19 - 11:21the subatomic reaction being observed.
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11:22 - 11:24In other words,
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11:24 - 11:27watching something affects its course.
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11:28 - 11:30In a democracy like the US,
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11:30 - 11:33prisons are administered in our name
and on our behalf. -
11:34 - 11:37The conditions in ADX
implicate our tax dollars, -
11:37 - 11:38public safety
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11:38 - 11:39and, most of all,
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11:39 - 11:43our shared belief in the inherent dignity
of every human being. -
11:44 - 11:46We have an obligation to bear witness.
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11:47 - 11:48Thank you.
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11:48 - 11:55(Applause)
- Title:
- What happens to people in solitary confinement
- Speaker:
- Laura Rovner
- Description:
-
Imagine living with no significant human contact for years, even decades, in a cell the size of a small bathroom. This is the reality for those in long-term solitary confinement, a form of imprisonment regularly imposed in US prisons. In this eye-opening talk, civil rights lawyer Laura Rovner takes us to ADX, the US federal government's only supermax prison, and describes the dehumanizing effects of long-term solitude on the mind, personality and sense of self. What emerges is an urgent case for abolishing solitary confinement -- and evidence for how our tax dollars, public safety and values are implicated in it. "Prisons are administered in our name and on our behalf," she says. "We have an obligation to bear witness."
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 12:07
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