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How open borders make us safe | Andrew Solomon | TEDxExeter

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    The great 19th-century naturalist
    Alexander von Humboldt once said,
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    "There is no worldview so dangerous
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    as the worldview of those
    who have not viewed the world."
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    And I believe that travel
    is a moral imperative
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    for those of us who can afford it,
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    that we owe it to the world to be engaged.
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    Everyone needs, at some point,
    exposure to the larger world,
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    and I believe that if everyone spent
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    two weeks in a foreign country
    before the age of 30,
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    no matter where they went,
    and no matter what they did there,
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    that half of the world's diplomatic
    problems would be solved.
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    I think if the government understood
    this social function of travel,
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    there would be government
    programs to support travel
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    in the way that we have programs
    to support health and education.
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    Travel is both a window and a mirror.
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    It's a window,
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    because it lets you see another society
    and culture that you're visiting.
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    But it's a mirror
    because when you go abroad,
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    you're stripped back
    to your essential self,
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    and you see what that essential self is
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    with the clarity you could never
    otherwise achieve.
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    We all need to have our compatriots.
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    If we don't have a place we call our own,
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    figuring out who we are
    is nearly impossible.
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    But without unlike people,
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    you become a caricature of yourself.
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    Neither model needs to win.
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    Neither of them subverts the other.
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    I'm a dual national of the United States
    and the United Kingdom.
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    In the last year, I voted
    against Brexit and against Trump,
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    and I lost both times.
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    (Laughter)
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    The results of those voting sessions,
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    like the appointment
    of nationalist governments
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    in Poland and Hungary
    and Turkey and Russia
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    represents a rejection of human diversity
    and of the open borders
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    that have characterised the world order.
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    In the October Conservative
    Party Conference, Theresa May said,
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    "There is no such thing
    as a citizen of the world.
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    If you believe you are a citizen
    of the world, you're a citizen of nowhere.
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    You don't understand
    what the very word 'citizenship' means."
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    Theresa May is wrong.
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    Patriotism is not nationalism,
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    and you can love your own country
    and love other countries too.
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    It's not a binary.
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    If the identity politics
    of the last 20 years
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    has given us nothing else,
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    it has given us the vocabulary
    of intersectionality,
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    the understanding that we all have
    multiple identities all the time,
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    and that you can be old
    and Conservative and British and gay,
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    or young and deaf and radical and French,
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    or Anglo American and European
    and a world citizen.
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    It's a hallmark of sophistication
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    to tolerate and celebrate
    coinciding identities,
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    and the absence of that ability
    is a mark of alienation and objection.
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    But we err in presuming that because
    we share the same problems,
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    we all require the same solutions.
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    When I was working in Cambodia,
    I met a woman named Phaly Nuon,
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    who had lived through unbelievable
    horrors during the genocide there.
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    She had had to watch, been forced
    to watch, while her daughter was raped
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    and then murdered in front of her.
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    The baby she had died
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    because she was too malnourished
    to produce breast milk.
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    At the end of the war, she found herself
    in a camp on the Thai border,
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    and she noticed, in that camp,
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    that there were a lot
    of women in particular,
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    who had somehow survived
    the horrific indignities and atrocities,
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    but who are now just sitting
    in front of their tents in the camp,
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    staring into space, not taking care
    of their children, not doing anything.
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    She went to the people who ran the camps.
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    They said, "We've got our hands full
    with infectious diseases."
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    They said, "We can't do
    anything about this."
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    So she decided she
    would have to do something.
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    And she came up with what she
    referred to, when talking to me,
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    as her "three-point program."
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    She said, "First, I would go
    to these women,
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    and I would teach them to forget -
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    not that they would ever really
    forget the horrible things
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    that had happened to them,
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    but I would give them
    other things to think about
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    and fill their mind a bit
    with something else,
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    and that was the beginning
    of a kind of forgetting.
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    After I'd taught them to forget,
    I would teach them to work.
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    Some of them could do
    no more than clean houses;
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    some showed a skill at handicrafts;
    some could do other more advanced things,
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    but all of them needed something
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    that they knew was their thing
    that they could do."
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    She said, "Once I had taught them
    to forget and to work,
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    I would teach them to perform
    manicures and pedicures."
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    And I said, "I beg your pardon?"
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    (Laughter)
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    She said, "What people had lost most
    in that Khmer Rouge period
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    was the ability to trust one another.
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    These women had gone so many years
    without any opportunity to feel beautiful.
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    I would invite them into my hut,
    and fill it with steam,
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    and within minutes,
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    they were holding out their hands and feet
    to strangers bearing sharp implements."
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    (Laughter)
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    "After a few minutes of that,
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    they began to tell
    one another their stories."
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    She said, "Then I tried to teach them
    that these were not three separate skills,
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    but part of a single way of being.
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    And when they understood that, why,
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    they were ready to go
    into the world again."
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    Now, democratic government
    must be rooted in the view forward,
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    and that entails forgetting.
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    But we must also strive
    to work and to trust.
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    At the moment, we forget too well,
    and we work and trust too badly.
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    During the campaign, Donald Trump said,
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    "I've got no time to travel.
    America needs my attention now."
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    Can you see America if you
    don't sometimes gaze at it from abroad?
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    There is a feeling in all
    of these nationalist movements
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    that difference is threatening
    rather than beautiful.
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    And part of their shared function
    is to disavow our humanity
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    Which is why it's not surprising
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    that in the months
    following the Brexit vote
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    London's Metropolitan Police Commissioner
    spoke of a horrible spike in hate crimes,
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    while the Southern Poverty
    Law Center in the US recorded
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    more than 1,000 hate-fueled incidents
    in the three weeks following the election.
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    When we don't know one another,
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    it's much easier for us
    to kill one another.
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    When I was about six,
    I was in the car with my father.
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    We were driving in the country.
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    He started to tell me a story
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    which included an allusion
    to the Holocaust.
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    He thought I knew about it, and I didn't.
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    I asked him to explain it,
    and he explained it,
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    and it didn't make sense to me,
    and I asked him to explain it again.
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    He explained it again,
    and when I asked him the third time,
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    he said, "It was pure evil."
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    He said it in a tone of voice
    that was meant to end the conversation.
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    But I had one more question.
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    I said, "But why didn't those Jews
    just leave when everything got so bad?"
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    My father said, "They had no place to go."
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    I remember thinking, even then,
    even when I was six years old,
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    that I was never going to be
    one of those people,
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    that I would always have some place to go,
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    that I would have people
    ready to welcome me
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    with open arms on every
    inhabited continent.
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    And it became a defining part of my life.
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    We're in a moment of isolationism,
    when people have forgotten
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    that the nexus of safety
    is having many places to go.
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    I was in Moscow about a year ago
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    when Putin had brought through
    some of his autocratic measures.
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    I was with Andre Reuter, someone
    I've known for many, many years,
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    who was involved
    in the resistance to the Putsch,
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    when the Soviet Union ended,
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    and who had fought idealistically
    for freedom and justice.
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    I said to him, "Do you regret it?
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    Do you now regret that you gave
    so much energy to those hopes
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    that have not been realised?"
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    He looked at me and said,
    "Do I regret it? No, I don't regret it.
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    It's in the engine of everything
    I've done or thought since then."
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    He said, "That moment of idealism
    was like a happy childhood.
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    It was a thing on which you can build
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    to deal with everything
    that comes along afterwards.
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    And I realised in that moment
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    that a crushed hope
    is suffused with nobility
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    that mere hopelessness can never know,
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    and that the moment when things shift
    can be valuable in the present tense,
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    no matter where the shift itself leads,
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    and that change occurs only
    after hope's multiple inceptions.
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    In February of 2002,
    just after the invasion,
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    I went to Afghanistan.
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    I went in good part because I thought
    it could not be a country
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    composed entirely of war-like peasants
    and corrupt bureaucrats,
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    which was the image it had in much
    of the Western press at the time.
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    I had someone there
    who was my translator and fixer,
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    and who remains a great friend: Farouq.
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    I'd said to him that I wanted
    to get one of those those fur hats
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    like the ones Karzai wore.
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    Farouq said, "Oh, if you want that,
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    we have to go to that street
    of the hat makers and commission one.
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    So we went and ordered a hat,
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    and the next day,
    we went back to pick it up.
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    And Farouq said, "Our next appointment
    is just five minutes from here."
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    He said, "We can just walk
    right through that market."
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    And I said "Okay," and at the time,
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    most of the people from the West
    who were in Afghanistan
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    were either UN or military,
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    and they weren't allowed to walk
    through things like crowded markets.
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    So we're walking along
    and Farouq said to me,
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    "Put on your hat."
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    I said, "Farouq, foreigners
    going native look ridiculous."
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    (Laughter)
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    "I'm not going to put on my hat."
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    He said, "Oh come on."
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    I said, "Really, Farouq, I'd rather not."
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    And he said, "Please, put your hat."
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    And I said "Okay, I'll put on my hat."
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    So I put on my hat, and suddenly,
    everyone around us burst into applause.
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    (Laughter)
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    And one old man stepped forward
    and he embraced me.
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    He said, "You were a foreigner,
    but you have come to our country,
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    you are here in the market with us,
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    you are wearing a real Afghan hat
    in the real Afghan way,
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    and we want you to know
    that you are welcome here."
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    About a week later, I was interviewing
    three women activists,
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    and they came to meet me,
    and they arrived wearing burkas,
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    and they took off their burkas immediately
    so that we could sit and talk.
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    But I said to them,
    "It's no longer Taliban rule.
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    You no longer have to wear those things.
    Why are you still wearing them?"
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    The first woman said, "Well, if I go out
    without a burka and I get raped,
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    everyone will say
    that it was my own fault."
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    The second one said,
    "Well, if I go out without a burka,
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    and the Taliban comes back to power,
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    they might punish anyone they know
    has been out without a burka."
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    But the third one said to me,
    "I swore when the Taliban failed,
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    that I would burn this garment
    and never see its like again.
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    But after five years, you grow
    accustomed to being invisible,
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    and the prospect of being visible
    again is very stressful."
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    I understood that, for this woman,
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    her invisibility gave her
    a kind of freedom.
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    But I also recognised that
    that freedom is itself a prison,
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    and recognised that it's often
    the people who are the least free,
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    who understand freedom most deeply.
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    As Tony Morrison said,
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    "After you are set free,
    you must claim a freed self."
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    In a free society, you have a chance
    to achieve your ambitions.
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    In an unfree one, you lack that choice,
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    which often makes
    for more visionary ambitions.
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    People who are constrained often
    use their words most powerfully,
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    but the word "freedom" is a verb.
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    You have to relive
    and achieve it again each day.
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    It does not sit static.
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    It is not a state
    to be presumed continuous.
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    And it takes so much time
    and so much commitment
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    to build freedom.
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    And yet, hard-won freedoms
    can be obliterated with alarming rapidity.
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    Nazism, apartheid,
    Hutu Power, Greater Serbia -
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    each of those arrived and swept away
    the justice that had preceded it.
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    When I was in China,
    I spent time with Zhang Peili,
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    an artist who was among the students
    in revolt in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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    He was there, he fled the scene,
    he made a painting of what he had seen
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    and hung it from a bridge in Hangzhou,
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    then had to go into hiding
    because he was a wanted man.
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    He said to me, "You know, probably,
    it was the right thing what happened,
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    because if it hadn't,
    there would have been a revolution,
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    and hundreds and hundreds
    of thousands of people might have died."
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    I said, "But Peili,
    how can you possibly say that?
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    You almost gave your life for this.
    You went into hiding for this.
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    You believed so strongly
    in that student protest."
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    And he said, "I'm an artist,
    and idealism is my right as an artist.
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    But idealism in the hands
    of a leader is a terrible thing."
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    My husband and I, our family,
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    recently took in a Libyan
    refugee named Hassan.
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    We did so in part because the lives
    we live as gay Americans
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    are such an abstract privilege
    to gay people from his part of the world,
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    and to so many gay people
    around the world,
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    and partly out of the sense
    that we all have a moral obligation
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    to help in this time of refugees,
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    and partly because we wanted
    to send a message,
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    to our children, to our friends,
    and even to ourselves,
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    that this much-maligned
    "other" can be someone
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    who is not only familiar, but also loved.
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    It's political for us to have Hassan
    as a member of our household,
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    even though he's coaching our son
    in football, and working in a hospital,
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    and bakes fantastic cakes,
    and makes us all laugh.
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    I had hoped that time would divest
    his presence of its politics,
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    but that eventuality slipped away from us,
    on the U.S. election night.
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    The Italian political theorist
    Antonio Gramsci once said
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    that revolution requires pessimism
    of the intellect and optimism of the will.
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    And I think all social change requires
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    pessimism of the intellect
    and optimism of the will.
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    At the time that apartheid
    was winding down,
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    I went to report in South Africa.
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    I felt I was coming from the society
    in which democracy functions
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    to one where that was only
    a distant hope on the horizon.
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    But these things can turn around.
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    Just after the election in November,
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    the South African artist,
    William Kentridge,
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    with whom I'd spent a lot of time,
    came to New York,
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    and we talked about what had happened.
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    He said, "What is most shocking
    is not how shocked you are now,
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    but how unshocked you will be
    in six months' time."
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    I took that as an invitation
    to stay shocked.
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    (Laughter) (Applause)
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    Thank you.
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    Staying shocked is a long game.
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    It requires that we resist the ways
    that repetition desensitises us,
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    and recognise that we, as a society,
    are right now at risk of becoming brutal
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    and we must resist that tendency.
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    Travel is the opposite of chauvinism.
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    Chauvinism is a curling inward.
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    Travel is an opening outward.
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    And witnessing a global world
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    is one of the best ways
    to make a global world.
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    The American poet Robert Frost wrote,
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    "Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
    What I was walling in or walling out,
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    And to whom I was likely to give offence.
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    Something there is
    that doesn't love a wall,
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    That wants it down."
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    To which the neighbour
    in the poem can only say,
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    "Good fences make good neighbours."
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    But history shows us that good fences
    mostly make real enemies.
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    Donald Trump is talking
    of this great project
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    to build a wall between
    the United States and Mexico.
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    Great Britain has been working
    on the great wall of Calais,
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    which is supposed to prevent
    illegal immigration from the continent.
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    The peace walls in Northern Ireland
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    are now going to be retained
    in some places.
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    Hungary has sworn to the construction
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    of a massive border fence
    all around the country.
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    And Israel is well on its way
    to being a walled nation.
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    Walls are concrete symbols of exclusion,
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    and exclusion often hurts
    those who are excluding
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    as much as it hurts
    those who are excluded.
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    And this process entails an overlooking
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    of how the liberal world order
    benefits all nations,
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    and it shows a callow disregard
    for the spread of war,
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    for nuclear proliferation.
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    It would make America weak again -
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    and Britain too.
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    It's a trivialising of it delicate peace
    forged after two world wars,
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    which is never a given.
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    Because walls are our burkas;
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    they're symbols of safety
    that oppress us terribly,
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    and we suffer under them.
  • 20:02 - 20:05
    Those of us who champion internationalism
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    have to acknowledge
    that it can be confusing
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    and difficult to negotiate.
  • 20:10 - 20:12
    The cheap labor closes jobs in the West
  • 20:12 - 20:16
    while Western management
    exploits the world's scattered poor.
  • 20:17 - 20:18
    We have to remember
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    that language gaps lead
    to misunderstandings,
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    and that values are often challenged.
  • 20:24 - 20:30
    But so long as the world is infected
    with war and starvation and poverty,
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    there will be people striving to escape
    troubled and impoverished places
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    to apparently less troubled
    and more prosperous ones.
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    They don't go because emigration is fun.
  • 20:44 - 20:46
    They don't go to exploit places.
  • 20:47 - 20:49
    They don't go without regret.
  • 20:49 - 20:54
    They stay shocked,
    whether they want to or not.
  • 20:55 - 20:59
    Reporting from Tripoli
    on the end of the Gaddafi regime,
  • 20:59 - 21:04
    I interviewed all of the ministers
    in his government.
  • 21:04 - 21:09
    I was struck that everyone I met,
    who wanted rapprochement with the West
  • 21:09 - 21:14
    had lived or studied in the US,
    the UK, or Western Europe.
  • 21:14 - 21:18
    And that everyone who wanted Libya
    to remain a rogue terrorist state
  • 21:18 - 21:20
    had not done so.
  • 21:21 - 21:24
    Quarantining otherness, locking people out
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    breeds an ignorance of us
    that engenders hatred.
  • 21:29 - 21:32
    It is openness that makes us safe.
  • 21:32 - 21:35
    It's striking that New York and London,
  • 21:35 - 21:38
    the cities with the largest
    immigrant populations,
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    are much less afraid of immigration
    than people in outlying areas.
  • 21:43 - 21:47
    The people who are most afraid
    of immigrants have never met one.
  • 21:48 - 21:50
    Building walls does not
    address their problems.
  • 21:51 - 21:54
    it's a weakness masquerading
    as a fortification.
  • 21:55 - 21:59
    Engaging is the only way forward.
  • 22:00 - 22:03
    Theresa May had it inside out.
  • 22:04 - 22:08
    We must take action
    as citizens of our countries,
  • 22:08 - 22:10
    yet embrace the larger whole.
  • 22:11 - 22:16
    Believing we cannot be citizens
    of the world will lose us the world
  • 22:17 - 22:19
    of which we might have been citizens.
  • 22:19 - 22:20
    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
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    Thank you.
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    Thank you.
  • 22:28 - 22:31
    (Applause)
  • 22:31 - 22:35
    Thank you, thank you.
Title:
How open borders make us safe | Andrew Solomon | TEDxExeter
Description:

Identifying a dangerous isolationist trend behind the election of President Donald Trump in the US and the Brexit vote in the UK, renowned author and TED speaker Andrew Solomon makes a passionate case for the personal and political benefits of travel. He argues that discovering other countries is the best way of finding ourselves, while ignorance of other cultures gives rise to fear, suspicion and war.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
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Duration:
22:36

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