How to tie into the harness with Perfect Figure 8 knot every time
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0:00 - 0:01- In this video,
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0:01 - 0:05we are gonna learn the
fastest way of tying your rope -
0:05 - 0:09into the harness, using
the figure of eight knot. -
0:09 - 0:13And this method is great
because it will always, -
0:13 - 0:16always end up as a
perfect figure of eight. -
0:16 - 0:18Like so.
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0:19 - 0:20Ta-da.
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0:20 - 0:23It will never have any
overlapping strands, -
0:23 - 0:26and it will be in a version
which is easy to untie. -
0:26 - 0:28If you missed this video,
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0:28 - 0:32I showed you that there are
two figure of eight knots. -
0:32 - 0:35Two versions of the same
knot that look very similar, -
0:35 - 0:38but we load completely
different during the fall. -
0:38 - 0:42And one of them is easier
to untie after a hard fall. -
0:42 - 0:44And then I received a lot of questions,
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0:44 - 0:46"But which version is stronger?"
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0:46 - 0:48(mechanical whirring)
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0:48 - 0:51So you will see that a little bit later,
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0:51 - 0:54but first, let's learn how
to tie the good version. -
0:54 - 0:56In case you're left-handed,
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0:56 - 0:58you might want to mirror everything
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0:58 - 0:59what I will be explaining.
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0:59 - 1:01So when I say right hand,
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1:01 - 1:04you use your other right hand.
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1:04 - 1:05Okay?
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1:05 - 1:06So let's begin.
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1:06 - 1:09Grab the rope with your right hand
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1:10 - 1:12and extend it to the side.
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1:12 - 1:13And with the left hand,
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1:13 - 1:16you will be measuring the amount
of rope that you will need. -
1:16 - 1:19This measurement will eliminate the issue
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1:19 - 1:21of not having enough
rope to finish the knot, -
1:21 - 1:23or having too much of the rope,
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1:23 - 1:26where you end up with
a very, very long tail. -
1:26 - 1:29And this is bad because during the climb,
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1:29 - 1:33you might actually accidentally
grab it and try to clip it. -
1:33 - 1:34To deal with this problem,
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1:34 - 1:37you will see people tying a stopper knot,
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1:37 - 1:40or a double fisherman's knot,
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1:41 - 1:44or some even call this a safety knot.
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1:44 - 1:45And you have to know
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1:45 - 1:50that this knot adds absolutely
no safety to figure of eight. -
1:50 - 1:54Figure of eight does not
need any extra backups. -
1:54 - 1:56It's a safe knot by itself.
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1:57 - 2:00And then the second problem with this is
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2:00 - 2:01that it gets in the way
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2:01 - 2:04if you are clipping close to yourself.
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2:04 - 2:06So if the quickdraw is here,
you will grab the rope. -
2:06 - 2:10And then the knot kind of
gets stuck in the quickdraw, -
2:10 - 2:10if you are unlucky.
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2:10 - 2:14So it's better to eliminate
this tail completely -
2:14 - 2:17and have a tail, which is short,
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2:17 - 2:19but not shorter than 10 centimeters,
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2:19 - 2:22which is about the width of your palm.
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2:22 - 2:26So in my case, I have one and a half.
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2:26 - 2:30Now, where to measure
depends on two things, -
2:30 - 2:31the thickness of your rope,
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2:31 - 2:33and of course your body size.
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2:33 - 2:35So personally, for me,
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2:35 - 2:38with 9.5 millimeters rope,
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2:38 - 2:40I measure around till this point.
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2:41 - 2:44If the rope is thicker, I go more.
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2:44 - 2:48And if the rope is slimmer,
of course, I go less. -
2:48 - 2:50So just tie a couple of figure of eights,
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2:50 - 2:53and then you will find
out what works for you. -
2:53 - 2:56Okay, now you will need to do
a little bit of multitasking. -
2:56 - 2:59At the same time when your
right arm goes to the side, -
2:59 - 3:02you need your left arm in a way
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3:02 - 3:05that its palm facing the same direction,
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3:05 - 3:08and the thumb is facing down.
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3:08 - 3:11So then you put your
rope on top of your thumb -
3:12 - 3:15and make a little loop, like
so, with the index finger. -
3:15 - 3:17So you extend,
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3:17 - 3:20you measure the rope,
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3:20 - 3:25and then the next step is
to twist the wrist like so. -
3:26 - 3:28And then you have this loop
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3:28 - 3:31where you put your tail
through and pull up. -
3:31 - 3:35You twist and twist,
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3:35 - 3:38and then put the tail
through the top loop. -
3:39 - 3:43At this point, don't let
the knot drop, like so. -
3:43 - 3:47This is bad because you
will lose the measurement -
3:47 - 3:48that you did.
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3:48 - 3:53Instead, you need to hold
the loop with your left hand -
3:54 - 3:56and pull the tail up.
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3:56 - 4:01So, slow-mo, extend,
measure, twist, twist, -
4:04 - 4:07and the tail goes through the top.
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4:07 - 4:08And full speed version,
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4:08 - 4:12extend, twist, twist, bam.
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4:12 - 4:13So if you did everything correctly,
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4:13 - 4:17you will have something like
this, the figure of eight sign. -
4:17 - 4:21But if you get this, then you
didn't twist it enough times. -
4:21 - 4:25Okay? And now we pass the
rope through the harness. -
4:25 - 4:29Most of the harnesses
have three loops, 1, 2, 3. -
4:29 - 4:32The leg loop, the waist
loop, and the middle loop -
4:32 - 4:33which connects these two.
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4:33 - 4:36And the middle loop is called belay loop.
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4:36 - 4:39So you want your rope
to go through leg loop -
4:39 - 4:42and then waist loop, like so.
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4:42 - 4:43Now, a fun question.
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4:43 - 4:46Do you think this will hold me or not?
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4:47 - 4:49It already connects to these two, right?
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4:49 - 4:50So it should hold.
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4:50 - 4:53So the answer is, yes, it will hold you.
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4:53 - 4:55But this is why you don't want to do that.
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4:55 - 4:58You use your belay loop
for attaching many things, -
4:58 - 5:01like your sling and a belay device.
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5:01 - 5:03So as you can see, this
might get really crowded -
5:03 - 5:05and uncomfortable to work with.
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5:05 - 5:08And the second reason is because leg loop
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5:08 - 5:11and waist loop has extra protection
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5:11 - 5:15to protect from the rope
wearing the harness quickly. -
5:15 - 5:17Okay, then another question.
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5:17 - 5:19Can you do this?
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5:19 - 5:21Where you're tying only into the leg loop?
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5:22 - 5:24It's connected to everything.
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5:24 - 5:26It has extra protection, right?
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5:26 - 5:28So in this case, the answer is no.
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5:28 - 5:30Because when you take a fall,
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5:30 - 5:35your legs will be loaded
more than the waist, -
5:35 - 5:38and you will have a tendency
to flip upside down. -
5:38 - 5:41So ideally you want your
rope to go through leg loop -
5:41 - 5:43and the waist loop.
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5:43 - 5:47And probably I hurt some
expert feelings right here -
5:47 - 5:51that will say that going
bottom up is incorrect. -
5:51 - 5:56What they will say that you
need to go top down, like so. -
5:56 - 5:58And the only reason why they say this is
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5:58 - 6:03because if you go bottom
up and somehow you manage -
6:03 - 6:04to miss the waist loop,
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6:05 - 6:09you will end up only on the
bottom loop, which is dangerous. -
6:09 - 6:10Where on the contrary,
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6:10 - 6:14if you go top down and
you somehow miss a hole, -
6:14 - 6:18you will end up with the
top loop, the waist loop, -
6:18 - 6:19which is okay.
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6:19 - 6:23So if you're a person who
can easily miss a hole, -
6:23 - 6:25then better go top down.
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6:25 - 6:26But for the rest of you,
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6:26 - 6:29bottom up is more convenient
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6:29 - 6:31and that's what most of the people do.
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6:31 - 6:32A little pro tip.
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6:32 - 6:34While putting the rope
through the harness, -
6:34 - 6:37you have your belay loop
kind of in your way. -
6:37 - 6:39So you will be choosing
whether you want your rope -
6:39 - 6:42to go on this side or that side.
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6:42 - 6:46And actually going this side is easier
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6:46 - 6:49than you have your belay loop
on the right of the rope. -
6:50 - 6:53You can also go that way,
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6:53 - 6:56but then you have to
take with your left hand -
6:56 - 7:00on your right side, which
is not so convenient, -
7:00 - 7:01but it works.
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7:01 - 7:04Then you would have your belay
loop on the left of the rope. -
7:05 - 7:09But I prefer going to this
side because it's faster. -
7:09 - 7:12Next, you need to trace the
original figure of eight -
7:12 - 7:14with your tail.
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7:14 - 7:16And this is where the most people mess up.
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7:16 - 7:19And actually you can blame
a lot of climbing coaches -
7:19 - 7:22and video tutorials for this.
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7:22 - 7:25Because all they say is to
follow the figure of eight -
7:25 - 7:28with your tail and you will be fine.
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7:28 - 7:31But there are so many ways
to do this follow through. -
7:31 - 7:35And most of these ways lead
to a really funky knot. -
7:35 - 7:36So instead,
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7:36 - 7:39just follow what I will
be doing very precisely -
7:39 - 7:41and you will have no problems.
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7:41 - 7:42First of all,
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7:42 - 7:45make sure that this line
goes to the right side. -
7:45 - 7:47If I would flip the knot,
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7:47 - 7:50now this line goes to the left.
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7:50 - 7:54So you want your knot to look like this.
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7:54 - 7:59Then you put your tail in
between of these two strands. -
7:59 - 8:02So you kind of make a
little bit of space here -
8:02 - 8:04and push your tail through.
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8:05 - 8:05At this point,
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8:05 - 8:09you need to pull the knot
close to your harness. -
8:09 - 8:11And this is very, very important.
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8:11 - 8:13If you don't do this,
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8:13 - 8:16you will end up with the big
loop in front of your knot. -
8:16 - 8:19And this is dangerous because
it can get stuck somewhere -
8:19 - 8:21on the rock, or you can
even accidentally clip -
8:21 - 8:23into the quickdraw into it.
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8:23 - 8:25And I've seen this happen.
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8:25 - 8:25Okay?
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8:25 - 8:29And then you continue tracing
the original figure of eight -
8:29 - 8:32by putting your tail on top of it.
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8:33 - 8:36Then it goes into this hole.
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8:37 - 8:38Like so.
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8:39 - 8:44Then it goes around and
finishes in this hole. -
8:45 - 8:46Like so.
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8:47 - 8:49And the only thing left
is to tighten the knot. -
8:49 - 8:53So I like to grab all the knot
loosely with my left hand, -
8:53 - 8:55take the tail with the right hand
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8:55 - 8:59and pull and push at
the same time, like so. -
8:59 - 9:02And then switch right hand to another tail
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9:02 - 9:04and repeat the process.
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9:04 - 9:05Done.
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9:05 - 9:07If you want the knot to be even tighter,
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9:07 - 9:11you can grab this, pull,
left hand switches, -
9:11 - 9:15pull, right hand switches, pull,
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9:15 - 9:17left hand switches, pull.
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9:17 - 9:19This will make the knot even tighter,
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9:19 - 9:22but usually this, and switch,
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9:22 - 9:23this is enough.
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9:23 - 9:25So if you did everything correctly,
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9:25 - 9:29you will have 1, 2, 3,
4, 5 parallel strands -
9:29 - 9:31on both sides of the knot.
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9:31 - 9:34And none of these strands
are crossing each other. -
9:34 - 9:37And if you messed up with
your original measurement -
9:37 - 9:40and your tail is slightly too long,
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9:40 - 9:44you can still tie a stopper
knot by going around -
9:46 - 9:49and putting the tail through itself.
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9:49 - 9:49Like so.
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9:51 - 9:55And make sure that it's
close to the figure of eight. -
9:55 - 9:57So this is the end result.
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9:57 - 10:01But as I already said, this
knot doesn't add any safety. -
10:01 - 10:04It is just to manage the
rope from dangling around. -
10:04 - 10:07So it's much better if you
have something like this, -
10:07 - 10:10where this tail is short
and you don't even need -
10:10 - 10:12this knot to begin with.
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10:12 - 10:16And so repeat this process multiple times,
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10:16 - 10:18and then you will develop a muscle memory
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10:18 - 10:20where you can do it blindfolded.
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10:22 - 10:25Just in case you will get stuck in dark
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10:25 - 10:27and need to tie your figure of eight,
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10:27 - 10:29which will probably never ever happen.
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10:32 - 10:33Boom.
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10:33 - 10:34Like a ninja.
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10:34 - 10:36And like a true ninja,
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10:36 - 10:39you should know what you should
not do with figure of eight. -
10:39 - 10:41Figure of eight is designed to be pulled
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10:41 - 10:43along this axis only.
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10:43 - 10:46Never clip and pull like this.
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10:46 - 10:48This is called a cross loading,
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10:48 - 10:52and it will make the knot to
slip and do all funky things. -
10:52 - 10:54And it might even undo.
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10:54 - 10:55(rope whooshing)
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10:55 - 10:56Bonus time.
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10:57 - 10:58In the beginning of the video,
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10:58 - 11:01I told you that there are
two figure of eight knots -
11:01 - 11:04or two versions of the same knot.
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11:04 - 11:06And one of them is easier to untie.
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11:06 - 11:10But the question is,
which one is stronger? -
11:10 - 11:12So let's find out.
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11:12 - 11:14Load line goes on the top.
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11:16 - 11:19Here, load line goes in the middle.
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11:19 - 11:22So let's find out which one is stronger.
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11:24 - 11:28(car engine whirring)
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11:33 - 11:34(he laughs)
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11:34 - 11:37So do you think that
I'm so crazy to do this? -
11:38 - 11:39Hell, yeah.
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11:42 - 11:43(he laughs)
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11:43 - 11:44No, no, no.
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11:44 - 11:47I don't want to risk some
projectiles flying into my van. -
11:47 - 11:49Instead, I called my good buddy Ryan
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11:49 - 11:51from YouTube channel HowNOTtoHIGHLINE,
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11:52 - 11:55where he makes things go kaboom.
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11:55 - 11:57- And welcome to my garage,
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11:57 - 11:58where we have a slack snap machine.
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11:58 - 12:00It's a big giant rectangle.
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12:00 - 12:01Let me show you how it works.
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12:05 - 12:08- And so, after he
snapped a bunch of knots, -
12:08 - 12:12the results were that all
of them were way stronger -
12:12 - 12:15than any climbing fall
that you might encounter. -
12:15 - 12:17So don't worry about that.
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12:17 - 12:22But if you want to find out
which version is stronger, -
12:22 - 12:24watch Ryan's video.
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12:24 - 12:25No, for real,
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12:25 - 12:26go check out this guy's channel.
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12:26 - 12:28He does a lot of cool stuff.
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12:28 - 12:30He breaks a lot of climbing equipment
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12:30 - 12:33and he even pulls out the cams and friends
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12:33 - 12:36out of real rocks to
show how much they hold. -
12:36 - 12:38And if you like what he's doing,
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12:38 - 12:40don't forget to support him.
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12:40 - 12:43And same, don't forget to support me.
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12:43 - 12:45Because you like my videos, right?
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12:46 - 12:47That's it. Done.
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12:47 - 12:49Ah no, I'm gonna steal the Ryan's outro.
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12:49 - 12:52- It's that's simple.
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12:52 - 12:53If you're gonna take 20 minutes
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12:53 - 12:55and try to perfect your knot at the gym,
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12:55 - 12:57and you're holding up other parties,
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12:57 - 12:59tell them about our videos
and share it with them. -
12:59 - 13:01So they don't hate you nearly as much.
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13:01 - 13:03And they understand why
you're holding their party up. -
13:03 - 13:05Instead of you smashing your
figure eights with hammers, -
13:05 - 13:07trying to untie them
because you did it wrong, -
13:07 - 13:11smash that like button and
make sure you subscribe. -
13:11 - 13:12See ya.
- Title:
- How to tie into the harness with Perfect Figure 8 knot every time
- Description:
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The fastest method to tie a Figure 8 knot into the climbing harness.
100% perfect and easy to untie.Figure 8 is the most popular knot for Rock Climbing, because it is very hard to mess up and super easy to double check.
Alternatively people choose to use Bowline (one of the 5 safe variations), because they have / had trouble untying Figure 8 after hard Climbing falls.
However as I've shown in this video: https://youtu.be/QAr-uHd8h8o
If you tie your Figure 8 properly you won't have any trouble to untie it later.If you are a bowline user keep in mind that most of the people don't know how to double check your knot.
And if you never tied a bowline before and someone asks you to double check his bowline - don't do that! Instead, tell the person "I don't know how to check your knot please double check it your self".P.S. If you wonder why I call this NINJA method it's because I learned this from Korean climber who looked super strong and fast like a NINJA :DDDD
0:00 Intro
0:53 Doing initial figure 8
4:21 Harness
7:08 Follow through method
10:34 Don't cross load figure 8
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Because that makes a big difference and is the main reason I do this project!
Deep Thanks!
Ben - Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- Hard Is Easy
- Project:
- Belay Masterclass
- Duration:
- 13:12
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