Return to Video

Martin Puryear: "Big Bling" | ART21 "Exclusive"

  • 0:03 - 0:05
    [Martin Puryear: "Big Bling"]
  • 0:17 - 0:19
    --[PURYEAR] There's a story in the making
    of objects.
  • 0:22 - 0:24
    --There's a narrative in the fabrication of things
  • 0:24 - 0:26
    which, to me, is fascinating.
  • 0:28 - 0:29
    I think, working incrementally,
  • 0:29 - 0:32
    there is a built-in story.
  • 0:33 - 0:34
    I think it isn't just for the artist.
  • 0:35 - 0:38
    I get from people's reactions
  • 0:38 - 0:40
    that they do find something interesting
  • 0:40 - 0:41
    in the way the pieces are made--
  • 0:43 - 0:45
    not simply in the form that results
  • 0:45 - 0:46
    but actually in the way that they're made.
  • 0:49 - 0:50
    --[CRAIG VAN COTT] We're making big pieces
    of wood
  • 0:50 - 0:52
    out of little pieces of wood
  • 0:52 - 0:52
    [Craig Van Cott, President, Unalam]
  • 0:52 - 0:54
    with the help of glue and clamps
  • 0:54 - 0:57
    and high-frequency microwaves
  • 0:57 - 0:59
    to make it all stick together.
  • 1:00 - 1:03
    The intricacy of what Martin was looking for
  • 1:03 - 1:04
    was something that we had to actually
  • 1:04 - 1:06
    buy some new machinery for.
  • 1:07 - 1:10
    We had to make very tight radiuses on the arches--
  • 1:10 - 1:13
    the ribs that are holding the plywood together.
  • 1:13 - 1:15
    And there were a lot of tight angles.
  • 1:16 - 1:19
    This is giving us exposure that we don't usually get--
  • 1:19 - 1:21
    Our product is holding up a roof
  • 1:22 - 1:25
    and what's under the roof is what gets all
    the exposure.
  • 1:26 - 1:28
    [PURYEAR] I've had to open myself up--
  • 1:28 - 1:30
    both to working with assistants,
  • 1:30 - 1:32
    but also to working with people outside the studio
  • 1:32 - 1:35
    who I have to engage to do the larger pieces
  • 1:35 - 1:36
    because I don't have the facilities to make
  • 1:36 - 1:40
    a thirty- or forty- or fifty-foot-high work
    in my studio
  • 1:40 - 1:42
    nor do I have the technical facilities
  • 1:42 - 1:43
    to work with certain materials.
  • 1:44 - 1:46
    It's putting yourself in the hands of other people
  • 1:47 - 1:48
    and trusting their skill
  • 1:48 - 1:50
    and their willingness to do what you want.
  • 1:54 - 1:58
    --[JOHN LASH] This was to be a very
    industrialized piece.
  • 1:58 - 2:02
    The outside was to look like it was a salvaged piece.
  • 2:02 - 2:06
    We did look into running recycled wood for
    the project.
  • 2:06 - 2:07
    [Madison Square Park, New York City]
  • 2:07 - 2:09
    We had a problem with the fact that
  • 2:09 - 2:10
    it is in a public place
  • 2:10 - 2:13
    and you would have to engineer every piece of wood
  • 2:13 - 2:14
    to make sure that it was structurally sound.
  • 2:14 - 2:15
    [John Lash, President, Digital Atelier]
  • 2:15 - 2:18
    So, we were able to meet and find standards
  • 2:18 - 2:21
    that made it look like an industrial product.
  • 2:21 - 2:24
    We were going to put a cloth wire or chain link
  • 2:24 - 2:26
    around the whole piece.
  • 2:35 - 2:36
    [PURYEAR] One of the most important elements
  • 2:37 - 2:38
    when you're coming up with the work
  • 2:38 - 2:39
    is the scale--
  • 2:39 - 2:40
    how big it needs to be.
  • 2:40 - 2:42
    And, for me,
  • 2:42 - 2:43
    that's always been, in some ways,
  • 2:43 - 2:45
    the most difficult
  • 2:45 - 2:46
    but also the most crucial part of a project.
  • 2:52 - 2:53
    I prefer to have work that doesn't have
  • 2:53 - 2:55
    to relate to a building.
  • 2:55 - 2:57
    So this relates more to the people, hopefully,
  • 2:57 - 2:59
    who are going to be circulating around it.
  • 3:27 - 3:30
    The wire mesh, I've used repeatedly
  • 3:30 - 3:32
    because I'm interested in the way that it both
  • 3:32 - 3:36
    is a way of creating and defining a volume--
  • 3:36 - 3:37
    a surface--
  • 3:38 - 3:39
    that's very clear in space
  • 3:39 - 3:41
    and yet, the same time,
  • 3:41 - 3:42
    it has a kind of transparency
  • 3:43 - 3:44
    because of the holes in the mesh--
  • 3:44 - 3:46
    the openings in the mesh.
  • 3:49 - 3:50
    From a distance,
  • 3:50 - 3:53
    it tends to look very, very massive and heavy.
  • 3:53 - 3:55
    And what I like is the dichotomy
  • 3:55 - 3:58
    between that heaviness and massiveness
  • 3:58 - 4:01
    and the actual sense of it as, really, a veil.
  • 4:01 - 4:03
    It's just a thin skin
  • 4:03 - 4:04
    that's very permeable--
  • 4:04 - 4:05
    very open.
  • 4:06 - 4:08
    As you approach it, you realize
  • 4:08 - 4:10
    that you're actually looking through it--
  • 4:10 - 4:11
    you see light through it.
  • 4:11 - 4:12
    And as you walk around it
  • 4:12 - 4:13
    and as you get closer,
  • 4:13 - 4:17
    you realize that it's really just a thin crust of mesh.
  • 4:17 - 4:19
    It looks very boulder-like and massive.
  • 4:19 - 4:22
    I like the dichotomy between those two experiences.
  • 4:23 - 4:25
    My work has a potential for evolution--
  • 4:25 - 4:28
    for change and open-endedness--
  • 4:28 - 4:31
    which, to me, feels resonant with what it
    is to live a life.
Title:
Martin Puryear: "Big Bling" | ART21 "Exclusive"
Description:

more » « less
Video Language:
English
Team:
Art21
Project:
"Extended Play" series
Duration:
04:44

English subtitles

Revisions