Is your memory just an illusion? | Julia Shaw | TEDxPorto
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0:14 - 0:17I want to take you on an adventure
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0:17 - 0:21into the weird world of memory hacking.
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0:22 - 0:25What I want you to do
is to rethink memory. -
0:25 - 0:27I want you to think about your memories,
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0:27 - 0:32rather than as accurate recollections,
permanent records of the past, -
0:32 - 0:36instead of that, I want you to think
of your memories as stories. -
0:37 - 0:39Stories that you tell yourself
to make sense of your life - -
0:39 - 0:41why you're here; who you are -
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0:42 - 0:46stories that you tell other people,
part of your tribe, -
0:46 - 0:47showing that you're part of the group:
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0:47 - 0:49this is who we are.
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0:50 - 0:53But before I begin this journey
into memory science -
0:53 - 0:59and understanding how easy
it is to distort these stories, -
0:59 - 1:01I'm going to tell you a little anecdote.
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1:02 - 1:05It starts with my mom
and it ends with my aunt. -
1:05 - 1:07So here is the situation:
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1:07 - 1:10My mom went to Switzerland.
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1:10 - 1:15On this trip to Switzerland,
she went into - well, to get her car, -
1:15 - 1:17and she was in a garage underground.
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1:17 - 1:20She gets into the
passenger seat of her car. -
1:20 - 1:22My father gets into the driver's seat.
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1:22 - 1:24They try to exit the garage.
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1:25 - 1:26On the way out,
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1:26 - 1:31there is a man standing at the exit,
blocking their way out of this garage. -
1:31 - 1:33He's clearly not well;
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1:33 - 1:34he's talking to himself;
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1:34 - 1:36he's disheveled.
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1:36 - 1:39And my mom, to try
to get him out of the way, -
1:39 - 1:42gets out of the car and says,
"Sir, can you please get out of the way?" -
1:42 - 1:46And the man, instead of responding
the way that normal people would, -
1:46 - 1:48which is by moving,
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1:48 - 1:50he runs at my mom,
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1:51 - 1:53pushes her into the car,
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1:53 - 1:55and starts punching her.
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1:56 - 1:59Now, my dad's response to this
is to drive away - -
1:59 - 2:01of course, everyone's in shock -
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2:01 - 2:04and they get out of the situation,
and my mom is okay. -
2:04 - 2:05But of course, for my mom,
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2:05 - 2:09this was an earth-shattering moment.
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2:09 - 2:11A stranger randomly attacked her,
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2:11 - 2:13this kind of thing had never
happened to her. -
2:13 - 2:15So what does she do?
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2:15 - 2:17Naturally, she tells her family about it;
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2:17 - 2:19she tells her friends about it;
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2:19 - 2:21the story is told full of emotion.
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2:22 - 2:24Now, a year later,
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2:24 - 2:27my aunt is telling the same story
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2:28 - 2:30full of emotion,
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2:30 - 2:32full of confidence and conviction,
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2:32 - 2:34full of details
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2:34 - 2:37and claims that she was in the backseat.
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2:39 - 2:42Now, that's impossible.
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2:42 - 2:47I said this story happened in Switzerland,
and my aunt lives in Germany. -
2:47 - 2:49Even when confronted with this fact
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2:49 - 2:53that there is no way she could have
possibly been in the back of this car, -
2:53 - 2:56she doesn't want to let go of this memory,
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2:56 - 3:00because it feels so real.
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3:00 - 3:03So how do we find
ourselves in a situation -
3:04 - 3:07where we confuse things
that we think we've experienced - -
3:08 - 3:09our memories -
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3:09 - 3:11with things that we
have actually experienced? -
3:12 - 3:16So this is where I'm coming from;
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3:16 - 3:17this is where our stories begin.
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3:18 - 3:21And so if we rethink our past as a story,
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3:21 - 3:26and we think about writing these stories
and who gets to write these stories, -
3:26 - 3:29who gets to write into our memory box?
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3:29 - 3:31It might be a little more complicated
than we often think. -
3:32 - 3:34And ultimately what we find is
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3:34 - 3:39that just like my aunt was not actually
the witness of my mom's crime - -
3:39 - 3:42as much as she might
identify as this witness; -
3:42 - 3:46this may have been an important part
of her personal narrative - -
3:47 - 3:49it's not true.
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3:49 - 3:50And the same thing goes for you:
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3:50 - 3:53that there might be important
moments of your life - -
3:53 - 3:56memories of your childhood,
memories of lost loves - -
3:58 - 4:00that don't make sense at all.
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4:01 - 4:04And so you might not actually be
the person you think you are, -
4:04 - 4:07certainly if you're resting
your identity on your memories. -
4:08 - 4:11So I want you to dare
to question your memories. -
4:11 - 4:13And no memory is off-limits.
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4:14 - 4:18Just because it's emotional or complex,
just because it feels real -
4:18 - 4:20doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
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4:20 - 4:22So question your memories:
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4:22 - 4:24"How do I know
that this actually happened?" -
4:25 - 4:28Because when you do that,
you dare to question yourself: "Who am I?" -
4:28 - 4:30And if you can't trust
your memories, -
4:31 - 4:33What then?
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4:33 - 4:36And ultimately it leads you
to question your reality. -
4:38 - 4:39So let's talk about that.
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4:39 - 4:41What is your reality?
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4:41 - 4:45So, before we even begin
to talk about distorting memories, -
4:45 - 4:47let's talk about where memories begin.
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4:47 - 4:51Memories begin at perception.
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4:51 - 4:54That doesn't need to be
perception of the real world, -
4:54 - 4:56that can be perception,
that can be idea, -
4:56 - 4:58that can be something
that we think about - -
4:58 - 5:02because we can also remember things
we've thought about or dreams - -
5:02 - 5:06but often we talk
about perception in real life. -
5:06 - 5:11And of course, here, neuroscience
and people who study psychology, -
5:11 - 5:12like myself,
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5:12 - 5:17are clear that you have
a unique perceptual filter. -
5:17 - 5:20Every one of you
has a different set of eyes, -
5:20 - 5:23different set of ears,
different smells. -
5:23 - 5:25But that's not where it ends.
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5:25 - 5:27You also have a different worldview.
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5:27 - 5:30You have a completely
different set of memories -
5:30 - 5:32that you bring into every situation,
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5:33 - 5:34and those matter.
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5:36 - 5:41You could even argue
that we're living in a simulation. -
5:41 - 5:44Reality as you know it
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5:44 - 5:46only exists to you.
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5:48 - 5:51And so, from their very inception,
from the very beginning of a memory, -
5:51 - 5:53it's already filtered,
it's already tainted. -
5:53 - 5:55Let me give you an example
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5:55 - 5:59of how perception can filter
how we make decisions -
5:59 - 6:01and ultimately how
those memories of our lives, -
6:01 - 6:03of things that we think are important,
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6:03 - 6:06can change how we make decisions.
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6:06 - 6:07So, all right.
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6:07 - 6:12This is a study I did with Stephen Porter,
Leanne ten Brinke and Natasha Korva -
6:12 - 6:13and published in 2013,
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6:13 - 6:17where what we did is
we gave participants a photo. -
6:17 - 6:19And we said, alongside this photo,
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6:19 - 6:21this person was a murderer.
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6:21 - 6:24This person, or at least
is convicted - oh, not convicted - -
6:24 - 6:27is a suspect in a murder case.
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6:27 - 6:29So this suspect, we give you the case,
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6:29 - 6:31we give you pieces of evidence,
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6:31 - 6:3411 pieces of evidence
in increasing severity. -
6:35 - 6:39Now, what we find is that people,
generally, the more evidence they get, -
6:39 - 6:41the more likely they are
to convict someone. -
6:41 - 6:43And that makes sense.
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6:43 - 6:45But there is one important difference
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6:45 - 6:48in terms of how many pieces of evidence
you need to convict someone, -
6:48 - 6:54and that has to do with how trustworthy
the picture of the person's face is. -
6:54 - 6:56So you look at someone,
and in that moment, -
6:56 - 6:58you make a snap decision:
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6:58 - 7:00"I trust this person,"
or "I don't trust this person." -
7:00 - 7:02And you're basing that decision,
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7:02 - 7:05as to whether or not
this person might be capable -
7:05 - 7:07of this horrendous crime
that were accusing him of, -
7:07 - 7:09just based on your memories.
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7:09 - 7:12This is, in general, what society
has bombarded you with: -
7:12 - 7:14this is what an offender looks like.
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7:14 - 7:18And if a person matches that stereotype
you're more likely to make a bad decision. -
7:18 - 7:23And so what we found is that
people who look less trustworthy -
7:23 - 7:28need fewer pieces of evidence
to have a juror reach a guilty verdict, -
7:28 - 7:31and - and this is what's
most important, I think - -
7:31 - 7:34is that when you give
people exonerating evidence, -
7:35 - 7:37when you give people
an 11th piece of evidence -
7:37 - 7:42that says, actually, the DNA
in this case doesn't match the suspect - -
7:43 - 7:46arguably most people would say,
"Oh, that makes sense to them," -
7:46 - 7:49say, "Oh, not guilty," so to exonerate -
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7:49 - 7:53what we find is that trustworthy people
are much more likely to be exonerated -
7:53 - 7:54than untrustworthy people.
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7:54 - 7:58So again, this perception in the moment
is clouding your decision making. -
7:58 - 8:00And so you're bringing that to the table.
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8:00 - 8:02It's changing your worldview.
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8:03 - 8:05So perception influences our memories,
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8:05 - 8:07perception influences
how we remember people -
8:07 - 8:08and how we interact with them.
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8:09 - 8:11And so that can be distorted.
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8:11 - 8:14And that can be distorted by things
that we don't even notice. -
8:15 - 8:16But before we move on
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8:16 - 8:19to the penultimate thing
that I want to talk about, -
8:19 - 8:21which is memory hacking -
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8:21 - 8:24which is how we can actually,
actively distort people's memories - -
8:24 - 8:26let's also talk a bit about the brain.
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8:27 - 8:29Because you need to understand
how the brain works -
8:29 - 8:32in order to understand
why memories are so flexible, so slippery. -
8:34 - 8:38Every day, you wake up a new person.
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8:39 - 8:40Now, the reason for that
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8:40 - 8:43is that your brain is constantly changing.
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8:43 - 8:47From the beginning of this sentence
to the end of this sentence, -
8:47 - 8:49your brain looks different.
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8:49 - 8:50And that's a good thing
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8:50 - 8:54because it means that you're able
to be creative and to learn, -
8:54 - 8:58you're able to take on new information
and weave it into your brain -
8:59 - 9:01in a way that you can possibly use later.
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9:01 - 9:04And so if you understand
that your brain is constantly in motion, -
9:04 - 9:09you also understand
that this hugely complex organ ... -
9:12 - 9:16if we break it down into a network,
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9:16 - 9:18into the network that is the memory,
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9:19 - 9:22we see that it's possible
to forget things, -
9:22 - 9:25to remember things
and to misremember things. -
9:25 - 9:27Now, if you think
about memory as a network, -
9:27 - 9:32forgetting is when you cut the connection
between two parts of a memory. -
9:32 - 9:35Now, when we talk about memories of
our lives, of autobiographical memories, -
9:35 - 9:38what we normally
talk about are things like, -
9:38 - 9:41"Oh, I felt this."
" I heard this." " I saw this." -
9:42 - 9:44They're called multi-sensory details.
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9:44 - 9:45They're complex.
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9:45 - 9:48And these multi-sensory details
are actually stored in networks -
9:48 - 9:50across the different parts of the brain
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9:50 - 9:53that are each responsible
for those sensations, -
9:53 - 9:56which is why we can relive,
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9:56 - 9:59or feel to relive these
magical times in our lives. -
9:59 - 10:01But when we forget, what happens is
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10:01 - 10:04that you've cut a connection
between some of these sensations, -
10:04 - 10:05some of these details.
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10:06 - 10:08And when you misremember
or you have a false memory, -
10:08 - 10:10which is what I study,
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10:10 - 10:14you reconnect pieces
or connect pieces for the first time -
10:14 - 10:17in ways that were never
originally together. -
10:17 - 10:19So you might think,
"Oh, I remember that smell," -
10:19 - 10:21but then you have it in the wrong place.
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10:21 - 10:24So you've connected things
that aren't supposed to be together. -
10:24 - 10:28And that's the basis of memory errors,
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10:28 - 10:31is that your flexible brain
is creatively recombining things. -
10:33 - 10:36So here we move on to the last part,
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10:36 - 10:38which is I think the most exciting,
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10:38 - 10:40which is the social influence part:
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10:40 - 10:43the idea that your memories
are not just your own, -
10:43 - 10:46your memories are
subject to social influence. -
10:48 - 10:50So back to the stories.
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10:50 - 10:54If you think of your memories,
all of your memories, -
10:55 - 10:57as living in a library ...
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11:00 - 11:03Now, that library sucks.
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11:03 - 11:05It's a really bad library.
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11:05 - 11:06Why?
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11:06 - 11:08Because people can walk into the library;
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11:08 - 11:10they can take out the book;
they can rip out pages; -
11:10 - 11:13they can cross things out;
they can write over them. -
11:13 - 11:17In fact, every single time that you take
a book out of your own library, -
11:17 - 11:21you're required to delete the whole thing
and rewrite it from scratch. -
11:21 - 11:23And then you put it back in the shelf.
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11:23 - 11:27Now, this will also change
depending on who you're talking to. -
11:27 - 11:30If you're talking to a friend,
you might change your story a little bit. -
11:30 - 11:31You might enhance the parts
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11:31 - 11:35that the person is responding to
positively with "uh, yeah." -
11:35 - 11:38And you might ignore or delete
the parts where the person's going, -
11:38 - 11:40"This isn't very interesting."
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11:40 - 11:42So who we're talking to matters.
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11:45 - 11:48And if we arrive at my research,
which I'm going to describe now, -
11:48 - 11:52which is that I convince people
that they committed crimes -
11:52 - 11:55or had other emotional experiences
that never happened. -
11:55 - 11:58Things like, you would come into my lab,
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11:58 - 12:01and I might convince you
that you were attacked by an animal, -
12:01 - 12:03that you lost a large sum of money,
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12:03 - 12:05or that you injured yourself.
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12:05 - 12:07Alternatively -
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12:07 - 12:08because I'm a criminal psychologist -
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12:08 - 12:12I'm also interested in trying to convince
you that you committed a crime, -
12:12 - 12:16a crime like attacking someone,
attacking someone with a weapon -
12:16 - 12:20or stealing something -
all with police contact. -
12:21 - 12:26Now, what happens in these situations
is that 70% of the participants -
12:26 - 12:29ultimately come to accept
this alternate reality, -
12:29 - 12:31as I've suggested it to them,
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12:31 - 12:35and they started to tell me -
like my aunt - all about it: -
12:35 - 12:37This is why I did it;
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12:37 - 12:38here's the situation;
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12:38 - 12:39here's who I was fighting.
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12:39 - 12:42And the way it works is that I get
participants to come into my lab, -
12:43 - 12:45and I tell them - I start with trust -
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12:45 - 12:48I tell them, and I say,
"I've contacted your parents" - -
12:48 - 12:49these are university students -
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12:49 - 12:51"I've contacted your parents,
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12:51 - 12:55and they said that six years ago
you attacked someone. -
12:55 - 12:56What do you remember?"
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12:56 - 12:59And they say, "I have no idea
what you're talking about." -
12:59 - 13:02"Okay, do you want to try something?"
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13:02 - 13:05If a psychologist asks you
if you want to try something, -
13:05 - 13:06be careful.
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13:06 - 13:07(Laughter)
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13:07 - 13:09And of course, everybody says yes -
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13:09 - 13:12"Yes, I want to try this" -
because they think, and this is the key, -
13:12 - 13:16they think that I know something about
their lives that they can't remember. -
13:16 - 13:18So they need to trust me
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13:18 - 13:20and think I actually
have this information. -
13:20 - 13:21Then I say, "Okay, let's try this.
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13:21 - 13:24Imagine what it could have been like.
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13:24 - 13:26Let's try to dig this memory out."
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13:27 - 13:28And what we find is
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13:28 - 13:32that after repeatedly imagining the event
as it could have been, -
13:32 - 13:35three times over three weeks,
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13:35 - 13:38people have an increasing difficulty
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13:38 - 13:41distinguishing between things
that they just imagined -
13:41 - 13:43and things that they experienced.
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13:43 - 13:46And now we're back to our flexible brains,
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13:46 - 13:49because the reason it's so difficult
to tell the difference -
13:49 - 13:51is that actually, in the brain,
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13:51 - 13:54imagined experiences
and lived experiences ... -
13:55 - 13:56can be identical.
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13:56 - 14:00Especially if you get people
to imagine multi-sensory components: -
14:00 - 14:03"What did it smell like?"
"What did it feel like?" -
14:03 - 14:06Because that's usually what we use
as the marker to distinguish the two. -
14:07 - 14:10So what I want is for people to move away
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14:10 - 14:12from the idea of truth versus lies,
fact versus fiction, -
14:12 - 14:15at least in terms of our memories,
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14:15 - 14:19and to embrace that sometimes
things just aren't that black-and-white. -
14:19 - 14:21I think this is particularly
important for the legal system. -
14:21 - 14:24I work with the courts,
and the military and police, -
14:24 - 14:27and I think, especially
in justice settings, -
14:28 - 14:30we need to be very careful
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14:30 - 14:33not to assume that someone must be lying
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14:33 - 14:36just because they're saying something
that's demonstrably untrue. -
14:37 - 14:40Because what we might have
instead is a much more gray area -
14:40 - 14:43that's somewhere
between this fact and fiction, -
14:43 - 14:44lie/false memories,
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14:44 - 14:48fiction that's woven into our stories.
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14:49 - 14:51So I want to leave you with this.
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14:52 - 14:55I want you to be
cautious, curious and kind. -
14:55 - 14:56I want you to be cautious.
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14:56 - 14:59Think about how you're
remembering things -
14:59 - 15:02and things that may have influenced
how you remember. -
15:02 - 15:06Was there someone
eagerly watching your memory? -
15:06 - 15:10Was there someone giving you feedback,
giving you leading questions? -
15:10 - 15:13Was there a therapist
or maybe a police officer -
15:13 - 15:17or maybe a teacher or parents
overly zealously asking you questions -
15:17 - 15:20and saying, "Oh, no, no,
but don't you remember this?" -
15:20 - 15:23Be careful as to where they came from.
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15:23 - 15:26Be curious when other people are
remembering things and you think, -
15:26 - 15:28"I'm not sure if that's true."
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15:28 - 15:29Ask them.
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15:29 - 15:32"Do you have any evidence
that this actually happened?" -
15:32 - 15:34And be kind.
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15:34 - 15:36Just because someone's saying
something clearly untrue, -
15:36 - 15:38don't assume that they're lying.
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15:38 - 15:41This helps me with my aunt
quite significantly. -
15:41 - 15:42(Laughter)
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15:42 - 15:44So I want to leave you with the idea
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15:44 - 15:47that you are the curator
of your memories. -
15:48 - 15:52Only you have control
over who gets to go into the library, -
15:52 - 15:55who gets to tear out pages
and scribble over the margins. -
15:56 - 15:58So be careful.
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15:58 - 16:00Because if you let
too many errors slip in, -
16:00 - 16:04you might realize that your memories
are just an illusion. -
16:06 - 16:09(Applause)
- Title:
- Is your memory just an illusion? | Julia Shaw | TEDxPorto
- Description:
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How can you be sure that any particular memory is true? Julia Shaw takes you on an adventure into the weird world of memory hacking. She shows that through a combination of perceptual flaws, brain biases, and social influences, your memories can be easily influenced. Armed with science, she explores how even some of your most cherished and emotional memories might be nothing but fiction.
By the end, she’ll have you wondering whether you actually are who you think you are, or whether your autobiography is just a compelling illusion.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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