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Salvation, once saved always saved? - Tim Conway

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    If you weren't at our church on Sunday,
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    let me just tell you.
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    I preached from Romans 13:11-14.
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    And in verse 11, Paul says,
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    "and this, knowing the time..."
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    And the thing that he says
    about the time there
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    is that our salvation is closer
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    than when we first believed.
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    Well, one of the things that I brought out
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    is the fact that we tend not
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    to think about salvation biblically.
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    We typically talk about
    salvation past tense.
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    Like I emphasized then,
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    we live in this "once
    saved, always saved" era.
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    Somebody's probably wondering,
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    well, hey, I thought once you were saved,
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    you're always saved.
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    No doubt about it.
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    The problem is the
    Bible doesn't typically -
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    for one thing, the Bible never says that.
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    That doesn't mean it's not true,
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    but the Bible never says it,
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    and it never emphasizes it that way.
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    And what most people mean
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    when they say that
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    is I said a prayer, I walked an aisle,
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    I went to church,
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    I believed in Jesus,
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    I was saved -
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    now no matter what happens
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    and no matter how I live,
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    I am going to get to the end.
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    That is an error.
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    That is absolutely erroneous
    to the Scriptures.
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    The Bible says - Jesus Christ Himself
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    says very plainly
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    that only if you endure to
    the end will you be saved.
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    What does that endurance look like?
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    Well, the Bible describes
    it in a lot of places.
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    What I've done - I've done this before,
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    and I encourage you guys to do it too.
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    Go through your entire New Testament.
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    Look at every place where "saved,"
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    "saving," "salvation," "saves."
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    Any of the words "salvation," "saved,"
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    type of words,
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    and guess what you find out?
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    You find out that only
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    maybe not even a handful of times
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    out of all the many times that it's used
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    does it ever speak about salvation
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    as a past tense thing.
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    Most of the time,
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    salvation is looked at as
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    an ongoing process or future.
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    Your salvation is closer
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    than when you first believed.
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    Why do I emphasize that?
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    I emphasize it for this reason,
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    if we talked;
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    if we spoke the way the Bible speaks,
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    we would talk about:
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    Hey brother, are you being saved?
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    But we don't talk that way.
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    But listen, just one place
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    that just shoots to my mind right now
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    is found in 1 Corinthians 15.
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    "Now, I remind you, brothers,
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    of the Gospel I preached to you,
    which you received, in which you stand,
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    and by which you are being saved
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    if you hold fast to the
    Word I preached to you,
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    unless you believed in vain."
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    You know what he doesn't assume there?
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    He doesn't assume that your past faith
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    is worth anything unless you endure;
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    unless you persevere in this truth.
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    And he says, in fact,
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    "You are being saved."
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    That's just like Paul says
    over in Romans 13.
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    Your salvation is closer
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    than when you first believed.
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    Peter talks about a salvation
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    ready to be revealed in the last time.
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    Well, okay, what does that
    have to do with creation?
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    Well, it's got a lot to do with it
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    because what it's got to do with,
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    it's got to do with our Bibles.
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    It's very important that we talk
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    the way the Bible talks.
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    Like I say, you and I
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    typically talk about salvation
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    as a past event.
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    Which the Bible does.
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    Look, to do that is not erroneous.
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    But folks, generally heresies
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    are not just a total
    turning from all truth.
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    Heresy typically is when you
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    exaggerate a certain truth to the point
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    where it becomes no longer truth.
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    Like, imagine a human face.
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    If all of a sudden, my eye
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    starts getting bigger and bigger
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    until it's about that big,
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    and I walk in here.
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    Suddenly, something
    seems very wrong, right?
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    If somebody came in with
    about a four foot eyeball,
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    we would all notice.
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    And it would not be beautiful, right?
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    We would look at it and we would say
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    that's hideous, that's grotesque,
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    that's abnormal.
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    Something's wrong.
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    Well, that's what heresy is.
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    (Incomplete thought)
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    Typical heresies comes
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    when people find one verse or two verses
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    and they so jack them out of proportion
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    that you end up with something
    that's no longer truth.
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    And see, when you and I,
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    we get into the mold
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    where we talk in a certain way,
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    but the emphasis is not biblical.
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    Well, then, we're beginning
    to depart from truth,
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    even though what we actually say
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    may in the concept itself
    and in the statement itself
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    be accurate.
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    I mean, there are places
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    that speak past tense
    about us being saved.
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    "You've been saved by grace through faith,
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    that not of yourselves."
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    We know the Bible talks that way,
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    but not often.
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    I mean, I would challenge
    you folks right now.
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    Any of you,
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    other than the text that I just mentioned,
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    Ephesians 2:8-9,
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    find somewhere in your Bibles
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    where salvation is past tense.
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    I challenge you guys to do it.
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    Most of you have your Bibles.
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    Most of you know your
    Bible to some degree.
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    Can anybody even think of another verse
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    or produce anything
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    or look something up?
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    Now look, if you've got a concordance -
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    some of you might be turning
    to a concordance in the back -
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    but even so, that's legitimate.
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    Go ahead.
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    Learn how to use your Bible tools.
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    (unintelligible)
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    Say it.
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    (unintelligible)
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    2 Timothy 1:9
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    "Who saved us and called
    us to a holy calling,
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    not because of our works,
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    but because of His own purpose and grace,
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    which He gave us in Christ Jesus
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    before the ages began."
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    Okay, we've got two now.
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    Anybody think of another?
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    Titus 3:5
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    "He saved us, not because of works
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    done by us in righteousness..."
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    Okay, we've got three.
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    Now, if I were to ask you
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    how many times do you think
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    that some form of "save" or "salvation"
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    is found in the New Testament,
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    what do you think?
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    You think like six?
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    So, like half the times it's past?
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    No, it's found there a lot. A lot.
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    It really is.
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    I don't have all the statistics.
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    And this isn't something I
    really meant to go with,
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    but it's something that I
    want to encourage all of you,
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    when you read your Bibles,
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    think about what your Bible's saying.
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    Ask yourself,
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    because like I said before,
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    if we're going to be biblical;
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    if we're going to talk
    like the apostles talk,
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    we ought to talk about being saved,
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    and we ought to talk about a salvation
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    yet to be revealed.
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    And that we're closer to it.
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    Because this is how Paul
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    sought to encourage Christians.
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    This is how Peter did.
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    They talked and they set our hope
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    on a future salvation.
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    (from the room)
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    Excuse me, on this verse in 1 Peter 5,
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    It says we're kept by the
    power of God through faith.
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    That's right.
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    No question about it.
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    (from the room)
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    But you said that God would keep us
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    in salvation sometimes and sometimes not?
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    Tim: No. No, no, no, no.
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    We are kept by God.
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    We are kept by the power
    of God through faith.
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    The power of God is
    demonstrated in our lives
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    by the faith He keeps us in.
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    The bottom line, folks,
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    if our faith is real to begin with
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    and it is indeed the powerful,
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    the power of God sustaining faith,
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    that we're kept by,
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    then all you folks know
    what James 2 says, right?
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    James 2 says, "faith
    without works is dead."
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    Bottom line is we find that
    if we say we know Him
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    and we don't keep His commandments,
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    we're liars and the truth isn't in us.
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    Bottom line, if we are those
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    who practice unrighteousness
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    according to 1 John 3 -
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    you can read about the first 15 verses
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    of 1 John 3 -
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    the Bible's pretty explicit.
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    Jesus Christ says you're
    only going to be saved
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    if you endure to the end.
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    The fact is there are
    people that have faith;
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    there are demons that have faith,
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    and their faith doesn't save them.
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    Bottom line is in John 2
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    there were people who believed in Jesus,
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    and you look at the
    last couple verses there,
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    it says Jesus didn't
    commit Himself to them
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    because He knew what was in men.
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    And the bottom line is this,
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    there is a faith that saves, and
    there is a faith that does not save.
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    The Bible's pretty explicit about that.
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    The faith that does not save
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    is a faith that's no better
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    than what the demons have.
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    The demons believe Jesus Christ
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    was a true historical figure.
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    There's no question about it,
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    when God saves us, we are born again,
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    and nobody plucks us
    out of the Father's hand.
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    I'm not saying that
    speaking about salvation
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    as a past event is wrong.
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    But because the Bible is so aware
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    that multitudes that claim to know Christ,
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    in the day of judgment for one,
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    are going to say, "Lord, Lord,"
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    and He's going to say, "I never knew you."
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    Well, what happened there?
    Did they not believe?
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    Well, certainly, they believed
    He was a true historical figure.
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    Certainly, they even believed He was Lord.
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    They called Him Lord.
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    And yet there was something innately wrong
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    with their faith
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    because they're being
    cast away in that day.
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    And by the way, Jesus
    doesn't say it's just a few.
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    He says multitudes, many.
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    In fact, He says in another place
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    that we need to strive to
    enter into the straight gate
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    or the narrow gate
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    because many are going
    to seek to enter in therein
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    and are not going to be able to.
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    Brethren, the way the
    Bible lays this thing down
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    is we need to work out our salvation
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    with fear and trembling.
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    And there are people that fall out
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    and make shipwreck all the time.
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    Now, what do we say about those people?
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    Well, we can say that basically
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    it's the type of soil where
    the plant began to grow
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    and there were no true roots
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    and it rejoiced and received
    the truth for a season.
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    But we know, basically the Bible tells us
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    that God keeps His own.
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    But what the Bible also makes very clear
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    is if we don't persevere to the end,
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    we give the definite proof
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    we never belonged to
    God in the first place.
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    And there's a whole lot of people
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    that believe they belong to God,
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    claim they belong to God,
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    make testimonies of such,
    go to church,
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    but they fall out and make shipwreck
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    or they make it to the end,
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    but then there on judgment day,
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    they find out at the judgment bar itself,
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    He didn't know me.
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    What happened?
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    What was wrong there?
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    Did they not have any faith at all?
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    No, they had a certain type of faith.
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    But there is a certain type of
    faith that doesn't save us.
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    There's no question about it,
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    when somebody truly comes to faith,
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    that true faith is a gift of God.
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    God doesn't repeal it.
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    By His power, He keeps that individual
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    in that faith.
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    But I'll tell you this,
    the reason Jesus says
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    you've got to persevere
    and endure to the end
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    in order to be saved
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    is because the true faith
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    that is energized by
    the true power of God
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    will always declare itself
    by persevering till the end.
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    And if you fall out shy of the end,
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    you give the greatest evidence
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    that it wasn't a God-given faith.
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    And the only reason that
    I even brought this up
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    is really not to get into any debates
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    over the nature of salvation.
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    The reason I brought this up
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    is because we need to
    talk like the Bible talks.
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    We need to talk about being saved.
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    And we need to talk
    about a future salvation.
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    And you see, this was the very point
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    Paul made to the Corinthians.
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    He said you're being saved by this Gospel
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    unless you've believed in vain,
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    which he's acknowledging they did believe.
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    But it's possible people
    can believe in vain.
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    And the way it demonstrates itself
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    is when they fall out of the race.
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    (incomplete thought).
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    Look, a faith that is not
    connected with works
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    is a dead faith James says.
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    (incomplete thought)
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    Are we saved by our works?
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    No, but true faith is always
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    accompanied by works
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    because it's always accompanied
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    by regeneration.
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    Regeneration is being made
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    a new creation in Jesus Christ.
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    That's the truth that comes
    right out of 2 Corinthians 5.
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    If we're not new creatures in Christ;
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    if we haven't been born again,
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    we will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
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    Lay it down, folks.
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    You must be born again.
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    Born again means radical transformation.
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    New creations in Christ.
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    Old things passed away.
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    All things become new.
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    The problem is that as
    much as all that's true,
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    the Bible does two things.
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    It looks at salvation
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    from the standpoint of
    God in some places, right?
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    In some places, salvation is viewed
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    from God's power,
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    God's responsibility,
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    God's protection, God's saving grace,
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    God's saving power.
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    For instance, anybody think of one?
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    I think of Philippians 1:6 right off.
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    We have this guarantee, right?
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    That if God begins a work,
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    He's going to finish it.
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    (from the room) Ephesians 4:30,
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    we're sealed by the Holy Spirit.
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    Tim: That's true too.
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    We're sealed with the Holy Spirit.
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    Nobody takes that seal off.
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    In other places, salvation is viewed
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    from man's responsibility.
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    And that's why we have places in our Bible
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    like Hebrews 6, Hebrews 10,
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    that actually describes
    people who fall away.
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    Paul distinctly speaks about people
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    making shipwreck of the faith.
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    Christ specifically speaks
    about enduring to the end
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    if you'll be saved.
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    Well, why those verses?
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    Because brethren, when the
    parable of the soils is given,
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    only those who bear
    fruit are the true deal.
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    Those who don't bring forth fruit
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    aren't the real deal, and they fall out.
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    Why do people fall out?
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    We know it.
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    This has been true of
    Christianity for 2,000 years.
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    People start the race
    and they fall out. Why?
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    You've got Demas.
    What type of soil was he?
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    I'd say he's a pretty good
    indicator of the third type.
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    What happened? Cares and riches.
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    What did he do? He loved the world.
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    He fell out.
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    Paul talks about others that
    made shipwreck of the faith.
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    Why do people make shipwreck?
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    What about Judas? He made shipwreck.
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    People right in Paul's own
    company made shipwreck.
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    Brethren, it's been that
    way throughout history.
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    People don't make it till the end.
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    Christ says if you don't endure...
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    So you have it from both standpoints.
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    You have the truths that God gives to us
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    that are meant to encourage us.
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    Nothing can separate me
    from the love of Christ.
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    My faith sinks its teeth in that.
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    But you know what? There are some people
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    that when the allurements
    of the world come along,
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    they look at that and
    they look at the world
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    and they'd rather have the world.
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    It doesn't mean anything to them
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    that the Bible says
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    nothing can separate them
    from the love of Christ.
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    They don't care.
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    They don't have faith to
    even lay hold on that.
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    They're looking at the
    worldly things over here
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    and they weigh it out and they go.
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    There are the people that
    are the second type of soil.
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    What happens to them?
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    Boy, they receive it gladly
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    for a season,
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    but then what happens to them?
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    They can't endure persecution.
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    They can't endure trial.
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    Why is that?
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    (incomplete thought).
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    I'll tell you what it always is.
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    There may be a number of answers,
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    but it always comes down to this.
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    You know why the true
    Christian doesn't bail out
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    when the trials come?
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    Because He wants Christ
    more than anything else.
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    He wants Christ. He loves Christ.
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    And when trial comes,
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    he doesn't like the trial
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    any better than the other guy.
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    But he wants Christ more
    than he wants ease.
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    He wants Christ more
    than he wants money.
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    He wants Christ more than
    he wants anything else.
  • 19:31 - 19:34
    And so no matter how hard the trial gets,
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    even Paul getting beat by the rods
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    and scourged and in the sea
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    and false brethren and
    all that came upon him,
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    he never bailed out of the race. Why?
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    For him to live was Christ
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    and to die was gain to be with Christ.
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    Be absent from the body
    and present with the Lord.
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    Folks, when Christ is your all,
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    you'll hold the line.
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    No matter what comes,
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    no matter what riches
    you're tempted with,
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    no matter what trials come,
    no matter what persecutions come,
  • 20:03 - 20:05
    no matter what pain, sufferings, sorrows,
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    you'll toe the line.
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    Why? Because it comes back to faith.
  • 20:10 - 20:15
    Faith believes in a Christ
    we have never seen.
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    Bottom line, the only way
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    people will hang on to Christ
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    at the expense of everything else
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    is if they have a faith
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    that really believes,
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    if somehow in their faith,
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    they've seen in their mind's eye
  • 20:25 - 20:27
    the beauties and the glory
  • 20:27 - 20:30
    and the preciousness of Christ,
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    that in their estimation
    outweighs everything.
  • 20:33 - 20:36
    We love Him, folks, not having seen Him.
  • 20:36 - 20:37
    We believe in an unseen Christ.
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    You and I haven't seen Him.
  • 20:41 - 20:44
    There was Thomas,
  • 20:44 - 20:47
    "My Lord and my God."
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    And Jesus said to Him,
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    "You believe you've seen.
  • 20:50 - 20:52
    Blessed are those who believe
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    and they haven't seen." Right?
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    The fact is people fall out
    of this race all the time.
  • 21:00 - 21:02
    And if they do, it's because
    they don't endure to the end.
  • 21:02 - 21:04
    And the reason that Paul would have
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    the Corinthians in one
    place examine themselves
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    whether they be in the faith
    is because you can believe it,
  • 21:08 - 21:10
    there's a number of them
    that weren't in the faith.
  • 21:10 - 21:12
    Why? You had all sorts of
    wickedness going on there.
  • 21:12 - 21:14
    Paul never came along and assumed
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    that everybody that said
    they were a Christian
  • 21:16 - 21:18
    were actually a Christian.
  • 21:18 - 21:19
    He doesn't assume that.
  • 21:19 - 21:20
    Now, he deals with people
  • 21:20 - 21:23
    based on testimonies they have.
  • 21:23 - 21:24
    If people claimed to be Christians,
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    he would deal with them on that level,
  • 21:26 - 21:27
    but he would also tell them,
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    examine yourself whether
    you're in the faith.
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    In the pastoral epistles,
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    he calls men out by name.
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    He talks about men that made shipwreck.
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    And the writer of Hebrews
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    is pretty straightforward.
  • 21:45 - 21:47
    Let me tell you this too.
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    Peter's pretty straightforward as well
  • 21:50 - 21:52
    in 2 Peter 2.
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    He says you know what?
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    We've got some people in the church.
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    They're pigs. They go back to the mire.
  • 22:02 - 22:07
    They're dogs and they
    go back to their vomit.
  • 22:07 - 22:10
    What does that tell us about?
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    It tells us that there
    was something wrong.
  • 22:13 - 22:15
    These men had professions.
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    You look at the context there,
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    very likely even those
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    that may have been teaching the Gospel.
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    But what happens? They fall out.
  • 22:26 - 22:28
    And then they prove to be
    what they always were,
  • 22:28 - 22:31
    which is what? Dogs and pigs.
  • 22:31 - 22:33
    And how are they proven?
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    They go back. They go back.
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    Brethren, this is serious stuff.
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    When Christ says, "strive to enter in,"
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    many are going to seek to go in there
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    and will not be able.
  • 22:49 - 22:51
    What do you guys do with that?
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    Do you just write it off?
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    Well, once saved always saved.
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    For one, the Bible
    doesn't speak like that.
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    Number two, the way the Bible speaks
  • 23:02 - 23:07
    is the violent take it by force,
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    strive to enter in,
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    many are going to seek to
    enter in and will not be able.
  • 23:11 - 23:13
    What's this?
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    This isn't what you hear in many pulpits.
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    But this is most certainly
    what you read in the Bible.
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    You say, where's that come from?
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    Well, that comes in
    places like Matthew 12,
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    Matthew 7, Luke 13.
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    Brethren, the Bible talks about violence,
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    force, striving, pressing in,
  • 23:43 - 23:47
    narrow gates, narrow ways,
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    few there be that find it,
  • 23:49 - 23:51
    many in that day saying "Lord, Lord,"
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    and He says "I never knew you."
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    Few there be that find it.
  • 23:57 - 23:59
    We live in a country where, what,
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    40-some-odd percent claim to be
  • 24:01 - 24:03
    born again Christians.
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    And yet the Bible says,
    "few there be that find it."
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    Amazing.
  • 24:07 - 24:08
    You know what?
  • 24:08 - 24:10
    It's not amazing that on judgment day,
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    Jesus Christ is going to say to many,
  • 24:15 - 24:17
    "Depart from Me. I never knew you."
  • 24:17 - 24:19
    Why isn't that amazing?
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    That's not amazing
  • 24:21 - 24:23
    because 45% of Americans
    claim to be born again.
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    That's why it's not amazing.
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    We see the very fruits of what
    the Bible says already, do we not?
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    I mean, come on, folks,
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    when you look around at the 45%
  • 24:32 - 24:33
    that claim to be born again,
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    and their abortion rates are just
    as high as the rest of the world,
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    their divorce rates are just as
    high as the rest of the world,
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    they watch the same filth that
    the rest of the world watches,
  • 24:41 - 24:44
    immerse themselves in the same garbage,
  • 24:44 - 24:46
    and what? What are we led to believe?
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    Well, the church isn't much different
  • 24:47 - 24:48
    than the lost world out there?
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    No, folks, that's not what
    we're led to believe.
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    Look, the Bible says this.
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    In Romans 8, it says you are
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    predestined to be conformed
    to the image of Christ.
  • 24:59 - 25:01
    Guess what it says in Ephesians 1?
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    It says that before the very
    foundation of the world,
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    we were chosen.
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    God chose us.
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    It doesn't say we chose Him, by the way.
  • 25:11 - 25:14
    It's amazing how many people
    flip that thing on its head.
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    It says - what does it say?
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    "Blessed be the God and Father
    of our Lord Jesus Christ
  • 25:19 - 25:22
    who has blessed us with
    every spiritual blessing
  • 25:22 - 25:24
    in Him in the heavenly places,
  • 25:24 - 25:26
    even as He chose us..."
  • 25:26 - 25:29
    Not as we chose Him; as He chose us.
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    "...In Him before the
    foundation of the world
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    that we should be holy and
    blameless before Him."
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    Holy and blameless.
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    We're chosen for that.
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    Predestined to be conformed
  • 25:39 - 25:43
    to the very image of Christ.
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    Folks, the church of Jesus Christ
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    is very healthy and holy.
  • 25:49 - 25:52
    Fighting? Yes. Striving? Yes.
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    Having to cut off hands? Pull out eyes?
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    Is there all-out battle? Yes.
  • 25:58 - 26:03
    Are they pressing? Striving?
    Is there violence? Yes.
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    But just like with the
    verse you brought up,
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    listen, folks, if it wasn't
    for the power of God,
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    we'd fall out of this race in a second.
  • 26:13 - 26:15
    Because the violence it takes,
  • 26:15 - 26:17
    the strength it takes,
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    the plucking out of eyes it takes,
  • 26:19 - 26:20
    the lopping off of hands,
  • 26:20 - 26:22
    the tears and the groanings
  • 26:22 - 26:24
    and the fighting
  • 26:24 - 26:25
    and by the Spirit of God
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    putting to death this sin,
  • 26:27 - 26:28
    the all-out battle,
  • 26:28 - 26:31
    if it wasn't the power of God
  • 26:31 - 26:32
    keeping our faith a reality,
  • 26:32 - 26:34
    keeping us locked onto Christ,
  • 26:34 - 26:36
    keeping us in the midst
    of the heat and the battle,
  • 26:36 - 26:39
    keeping us believing that Jesus Christ
  • 26:39 - 26:41
    is more precious than anything else -
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    we would fall out of the race.
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    We'd fall out of the battle.
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    The race would be over.
    We'd be all done.
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    Folks, the Bible says
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    that fornicators and adulterers
  • 26:51 - 26:53
    don't inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
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    Bottom line.
  • 26:54 - 26:57
    We've got to fight against this.
    We've got to overcome this.
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    Basically, we are people
    who walk in the Spirit.
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    We are people who we oppose
  • 27:03 - 27:04
    the deeds of the flesh
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    and we put them to death by the Spirit.
  • 27:06 - 27:08
    And it's battle.
  • 27:08 - 27:10
    And folks, listen, if you're here
  • 27:10 - 27:12
    and you've become a Christian,
  • 27:12 - 27:16
    and all of a sudden,
    you've encountered battles
  • 27:16 - 27:19
    against sin that you never thought
  • 27:19 - 27:21
    you would ever come up against,
  • 27:21 - 27:24
    and all hell seems like
    it's raging against you,
  • 27:24 - 27:30
    don't think: "Oh no!
    I must not be a Christian!"
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    What you ought to be thinking
  • 27:32 - 27:34
    is praise the Lord!
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    He's brought me into this thing.
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    He's given me a hatred for sin.
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    And there is all-out battle here.
  • 27:39 - 27:40
    What does Peter say?
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    Peter talks about these lusts.
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    He talks about these things
  • 27:45 - 27:46
    that wage war against the flesh.
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    What does he call them?
  • 27:48 - 27:51
    What wages war against us?
  • 27:51 - 27:54
    What is it that's all-out against us?
  • 27:54 - 27:57
    Anybody know?
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    What is it?
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    (from the room)
    Powers and principalities?
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    Tim: No - I mean, no doubt.
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    Principalities and powers are against us.
  • 28:06 - 28:08
    But Peter talks about something
  • 28:08 - 28:12
    that wages war against us.
  • 28:12 - 28:14
    Fleshly lusts.
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    They wage war.
  • 28:15 - 28:18
    Folks, when you become a Christian,
  • 28:18 - 28:20
    fleshly lusts wage war against us.
  • 28:20 - 28:23
    Principalities and powers
    wage war against us.
  • 28:23 - 28:25
    And in the midst of all of it,
  • 28:25 - 28:29
    Spurgeon likened the Christian life
  • 28:29 - 28:32
    to a dove flying through
  • 28:32 - 28:35
    a literal cloud of arrows.
  • 28:35 - 28:39
    And that God guides us against all odds
  • 28:39 - 28:41
    through all the arrows
  • 28:41 - 28:44
    to a haven of rest.
  • 28:44 - 28:46
    And that's what it is.
  • 28:46 - 28:47
    And I'll tell you what,
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    if you don't have God supporting you;
  • 28:49 - 28:50
    if you don't have God holding you up;
  • 28:50 - 28:52
    if you don't have God moving you through;
  • 28:52 - 28:54
    God giving you grace;
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    God giving you strength;
  • 28:55 - 28:56
    God giving you power;
  • 28:56 - 28:58
    God keeping your faith real;
  • 28:58 - 28:59
    God keeping you repenting;
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    God keeping you mightier than the sins
  • 29:02 - 29:03
    that are trying to overtake you;
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    keeping you in a walk in the Spirit,
  • 29:06 - 29:11
    a walk that does have
    the aroma of holiness,
  • 29:11 - 29:13
    of righteousness.
  • 29:13 - 29:16
    How does that happen
    with everything against us?
  • 29:16 - 29:17
    It happens one way.
  • 29:17 - 29:19
    God predestined us to be conformed
  • 29:19 - 29:20
    to the image of Christ.
  • 29:20 - 29:23
    And against all odds
    and against all enemies,
  • 29:23 - 29:25
    He is going to work that fabric
  • 29:25 - 29:27
    into the very character and being.
  • 29:27 - 29:30
    2 Corinthians - I brought
    this up on Sunday,
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    but 2 Corinthians 3:18,
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    folks, as we behold Christ;
  • 29:35 - 29:38
    as we behold the glory of the Lord,
  • 29:38 - 29:41
    we are degree by degree transformed
  • 29:41 - 29:46
    into the same image.
  • 29:46 - 29:48
    That's the reality.
  • 29:48 - 29:51
    So, why do we have to
    work out our salvation
  • 29:51 - 29:53
    with fear and trembling?
  • 29:53 - 29:55
    Where's the fear?
    Where's the trembling?
  • 29:55 - 29:57
    The fear and the trembling is this:
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    unless you work out
    your salvation to the end,
  • 30:00 - 30:04
    unless you endure to the end,
  • 30:04 - 30:07
    you won't be saved.
  • 30:07 - 30:11
    And believe me, in 20 years as a Christian
  • 30:11 - 30:15
    I've seen people start well
  • 30:15 - 30:17
    and fall out.
  • 30:17 - 30:20
    Why? The same thing Christ said.
  • 30:20 - 30:23
    The cares of this world.
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    Riches - they ensare.
  • 30:26 - 30:27
    (from the room)
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    So then, for the sake
    of speaking biblically,
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    you would change it from:
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    "once saved, always saved"
  • 30:34 - 30:40
    to "if saved, always saved"?
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    Tim: Well, like I say,
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    I'm really wanting to encourage us
  • 30:44 - 30:45
    to speak biblically
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    and speak to one another -
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    brother, sister -
  • 30:52 - 30:55
    you know, you are being saved
  • 30:55 - 30:58
    if you hold fast to this Gospel.
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    And I'll tell you this,
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    the Gospel is essential
  • 31:02 - 31:04
    to this whole thing.
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    In fact, let me tell you something.
  • 31:07 - 31:11
    We are so programmed in our thinking
  • 31:11 - 31:14
    that I think oftentimes,
  • 31:14 - 31:16
    we miss probably the truth
  • 31:16 - 31:19
    in the first chapter of Romans.
  • 31:19 - 31:27
    Romans 1:16-17,
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    so often because we are so programmed
  • 31:30 - 31:32
    to think about salvation past tense,
  • 31:32 - 31:37
    we tend to think about v. 16-17
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    as having to do with when
    sinners are saved the first time.
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    I don't believe that's the case at all.
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    Somebody want to read those two verses?
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    I heard a couple Bibles open to it.
    Somebody read it.
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    "For I am not ashamed
    of the Gospel of Christ,
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    for it is the power of God to salvation
  • 31:56 - 31:58
    for everyone who believes..."
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    Tim: Okay, wait.
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    Anybody ever get that?
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    The Gospel is the power
    of God unto salvation
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    to everyone who believes.
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    Not just to everyone who doesn't believe
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    and then hears the Gospel and believes.
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    It's the power of God unto salvation
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    to everyone who believes...
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    keep going.
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    "To the Jew first and also the Greek.
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    For in it, the righteousness of God
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    is revealed from faith to faith,
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    as it is written,
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    'the just shall live by faith.'"
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    Tim: You see that?
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    It's how the just live.
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    How do they live?
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    They live by faith.
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    Not just faith at one time,
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    but from faith to faith.
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    You see, folks, and this is
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    exactly what he said in
    1 Corinthians 15 as well.
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    Is it not?
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    You are being saved
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    if you hold fast to that
    Gospel I delivered to you.
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    You see, folks,
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    what is it that keeps our faith?
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    How does God keep the power -
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    we are kept, no doubt about it,
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    1 Peter 1:5 -
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    "kept by the power of God through faith."
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    That's how the old KJV says it.
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    Where does that faith come?
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    It doesn't come out of nowhere.
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    It comes by constantly
    looking to the Gospel.
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    What's the Gospel?
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    The Gospel is all about Christ
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    and my salvation
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    and Him taking my sin to the cross;
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    Him living a perfect life;
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    Him doing everything that's required
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    for my justification.
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    Beloved, that's where your meat is.
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    Don't ever think the Gospel,
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    yeah, we outgrow that,
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    we get past that, we move beyond that.
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    Brethren, the very Gospel is the very meat
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    upon which your faith thrives.
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    It's the very heart, it's the very core
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    upon which we live.
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    Brethren, let me tell you something.
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    Churches where maybe some of the people
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    sometime came to the Lord,
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    but now you get in this church
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    and all they want to talk about
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    is how long women's dresses ought to be,
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    or whether the ladies
    ought to wear head coverings,
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    or whether we ought to dance,
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    or whether we ought to smoke,
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    or whether we ought to drink.
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    Brethren, legalistic churches
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    that become all hung up
    in all sorts of stuff,
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    look, does the Bible have things to say
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    about whether I drink?
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    Or how much I drink?
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    If my drinking causes
    a brother to stumble?
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    Or whatever it is, whether I eat meat?
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    Whether I drink? Whether I observe a day?
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    I'm not saying those
    things aren't important
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    in their place,
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    but I've been in churches
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    and I know of churches,
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    and there's lots of these
    fundamental churches out there
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    that they just want to
    press all these little things.
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    Brethren, I'll tell you what -
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    I'll tell you where the sweet aroma
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    of the real thing exists
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    is where people talk about Christ,
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    they sing about Christ,
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    they hear preaching about Christ,
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    where everything is coming
    back to Christ all the time -
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    that's where the life is.
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    That's where we move from faith to faith.
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    We're not ashamed of that Gospel, folks.
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    It's the power of God unto salvation -
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    unto salvation!
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    You see, if we think about salvation
    all the time as a past thing,
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    then we miss what
    he's really saying there.
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    The Gospel unto salvation.
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    Faith to faith.
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    Yes, God preserves this faith,
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    but it's faith to faith.
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    I keep going.
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    I don't live by bread alone.
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    I'm living by the Word of God.
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    I'm living by this Gospel.
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    I keep going back to it.
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    I keep going back to the cross
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    and to the risen Christ
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    and to His victory
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    and to the payment of sin.
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    And brethren, you know how it is,
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    when we sing about it,
    when we hear about it,
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    when we go back there,
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    this is where our strength
    to live comes from.
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    This is where our strength to survive,
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    this is where are strength to move on...
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    Justification.
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    Brethren, we have to have works
  • 36:25 - 36:31
    with our salvation or it's dead stuff.
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    Look, if you say you know Him
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    and you don't keep His commandments,
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    you're a liar!
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    That's not me, that's John.
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    But if we get to the place
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    when we go to the mirror
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    and we're looking: okay...
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    how well am I keeping the commandments?
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    how well am I doing that?
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    I'll guarantee you not
    one of you in this room
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    keeps them well enough
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    to merit your salvation with God.
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    And not one of you has
    done it perfect in the last hour.
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    You say, well, what does that mean?
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    (incomplete thought)
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    Brethren, it's like we
    talked about before.
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    It means that bottom line,
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    we're people that are
    producing the fruits of God.
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    Is that not what Ephesians 2:10 says?
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    Anybody know what that verse says?
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    Some of you have memorized it.
    What does it say?
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    "For we are His workmanship..."
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    What does it say?
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    "...created in Christ Jesus
    unto good works
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    which God beforehand ordained
    that we should walk in them."
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    Good works.
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    We've been ordained to produce good works.
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    We've been ordained.
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    Anybody think of any
    verse in all the Bible
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    that says that we ought to be
    producing righteousness?
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    Anybody think of somewhere where it says
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    we're a people for His own possession?
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    For what?
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    Anybody know where it says that?
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    Titus.
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    A people for His own possession for what?
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    Zealous for good works.
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    Folks, He gave Himself up for us
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    to purchase a people
    for His own possession
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    who would be zealous of good works.
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    He saved us.
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    Listen, the book of
    Romans starts with this:
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    What is it? Romans 1, about v. 4?
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    It says that Paul went
    forth preaching the Gospel
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    to bring forth a people that
    are going to be obedient.
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    Or he talks about the obedience of faith.
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    You guys ever heard that?
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    He starts the book of Romans
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    with the obedience of faith,
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    and he ends the book of Romans
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    with the obedience of faith.
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    I think it's Romans 1:4
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    and then it's at the end there,
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    about Romans 15 -
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    it's right at the end of Romans 15
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    if I reckon right.
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    But he starts and ends the book that way
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    that there is an obedience of faith.
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    Brethren, if your faith
    doesn't have obedience,
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    if your faith doesn't have works,
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    if your faith isn't accompanied
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    by a zealousness for good works,
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    if your faith isn't accompanied by
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    a regular demonstration
    of commandment keeping,
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    what does John say?
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    His commandments are no longer grievous.
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    Doesn't he say that?
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    Anybody think I'm making that up?
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    That John would say that His
    commandments aren't grievous?
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    Which means what?
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    The desires of the flesh
    have been crucified.
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    And God gives me new desires.
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    Anybody think of anywhere in the Bible
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    where it talks about me
    actually having new desires?
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    Where is it?
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    (from the room)
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    In Isaiah where He says
    He'll give you new heart?
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    Tim: That's Jeremiah -
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    he does say He'll give me a new heart.
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    That's under the New Covenant.
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    And that's good.
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    Jeremiah 31, Jeremiah 32, Ezekiel 36.
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    We get these pictures - Ezekiel 11,
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    Ezekiel 18 - we get these pictures
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    of the New Covenant.
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    And he says He's going to cause us
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    to keep His statutes
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    and walk in His judgments.
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    According to the old KJV.
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    I'm thinking somewhere in Philippians 2.
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    What about verse 12-13?
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    He says we should work out our salvation
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    with fear and trembling, for it is...
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    God who does what?
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    To will and to do His good pleasure.
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    Isn't that amazing!
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    If you're actually in Christ,
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    God works in us not just to do
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    what we need to do,
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    but to will what we need to do.
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    This is salvation, brethren.
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    It says they would call His name Jesus
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    and He'd save us from our sins.
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    Don't think that that
    just means from hell.
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    Yes, it is that. It is from hell.
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    But He promised to save us from our sins,
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    from the power.
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    Brethren, Romans 6:14 says
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    sin will not have dominion over you.
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    You're not under the law.
    You're under grace.
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    Do you know what it means
    when you're under grace?
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    It means sin will no longer have dominion.
  • 41:56 - 41:59
    Why?
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    Because according to Romans 8:13,
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    by the Spirit we put to death
    the deeds of the body.
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    Brethren, if you don't put to death
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    the deeds of the body by the Spirit,
  • 42:14 - 42:16
    you're not going to make it to heaven.
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    You say how do you know that?
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    Because Romans 8:13 says
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    if you live according
    to the flesh, you die.
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    If by the Spirit, you put to
    death the deeds of the body,
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    you will live.
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    This is life and death.
  • 42:29 - 42:31
    This is always the case.
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    It always comes back to this.
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    Life and death.
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    Is there righteousness?
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    If you're practing righteousness,
    you're born of God.
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    If you're practicing unrighteousness,
    you're of the devil.
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    If you are one to whom God causes you
  • 42:46 - 42:49
    to will and to do of His good pleasure,
  • 42:49 - 42:51
    His commandments are no longer grievous,
  • 42:51 - 42:54
    He causes us to walk in His statutes.
  • 42:54 - 42:56
    You say, perfect?
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    No, brethren, not perfect.
  • 43:01 - 43:03
    But in the eyes of God, perfect.
  • 43:03 - 43:05
    Why?
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    Because the blood of Jesus Christ
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    has atoned for every one of our failings.
  • 43:11 - 43:14
    And so, John would say,
  • 43:14 - 43:17
    I write to you, little
    children, that you sin not.
  • 43:17 - 43:19
    But if you do... if you do,
  • 43:19 - 43:21
    we have an Advocate with the Father.
  • 43:21 - 43:23
    And how does His advocacy work?
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    Well, because of His shed blood.
  • 43:25 - 43:27
    There's been atonement made.
  • 43:27 - 43:30
    But brethren, what I was getting at before
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    is as much as all this is true,
  • 43:32 - 43:37
    we don't live on looking at ourselves.
  • 43:37 - 43:39
    We live on looking at Christ.
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    And listen, if you ever get to the place
  • 43:40 - 43:43
    where you're running to
    the mirror all the time,
  • 43:43 - 43:45
    and you're looking at your performance
  • 43:45 - 43:49
    to try to draw your assurance out of,
  • 43:49 - 43:52
    you'll look at yourself for 10,000 years
  • 43:52 - 43:55
    and you can look at yourself
    till you're blue in the face,
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    and it is not going to
    do a thing for your faith.
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    Brethren, we need to live
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    on the doctrine of justification by faith.
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    In all of our working,
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    in all of our good works,
  • 44:06 - 44:08
    in all of our seeking to do good,
  • 44:08 - 44:11
    in all of our seeking to
    keep His commandments,
  • 44:11 - 44:13
    in all our seeking to perform
  • 44:13 - 44:16
    as righteously as we can,
  • 44:16 - 44:23
    and work out our salvation
    in fear and trembling,
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    brethren, what is it that's
    revealed in the Gospel
  • 44:25 - 44:28
    that we live on from faith to faith?
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    The righteousness of God
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    is revealed in that Gospel.
  • 44:34 - 44:36
    Wait! What's that?
  • 44:36 - 44:38
    If you look over at Romans 3,
  • 44:38 - 44:40
    what? About v. 22?
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    Right in there somewhere?
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    It says that the righteousness of God
  • 44:43 - 44:46
    which is for those who
    believe in Jesus Christ.
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    It's a righteousness that is for us.
  • 44:49 - 44:51
    What does that remind us of?
  • 44:51 - 44:53
    Maybe like 2 Corinthians 5,
    last verse there,
  • 44:53 - 44:55
    which says what?
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    "He who knew no sin became sin,"
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    that what?
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    "That we might become the
    righteousness of God in Him."
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    Brethren, you know what message
  • 45:06 - 45:09
    is kept in that Gospel that we live on?
  • 45:09 - 45:13
    The Gospel that is unto our salvation,
  • 45:13 - 45:14
    that we live on and feast on
  • 45:14 - 45:16
    from faith to faith -
  • 45:16 - 45:21
    it's Christ satisfying all
    the demands of the law
  • 45:21 - 45:23
    in our place.
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    And paying the penalty in our place
  • 45:26 - 45:29
    for every violation and transgression
  • 45:29 - 45:31
    of that law.
  • 45:31 - 45:33
    And now, a righteousness
  • 45:33 - 45:37
    has been bestowed upon me legally.
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    Brethren, that's where
    we go back all the time.
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    Because I guarantee you,
  • 45:41 - 45:47
    no matter how righteous
  • 45:47 - 45:50
    the life of the Christian is -
    and it is - it is.
  • 45:50 - 45:53
    You have to deny all of the
    New Testament to say it's not.
  • 45:53 - 45:55
    But no matter how
    righteously you might be
  • 45:55 - 45:57
    living right now,
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    and no matter how much of
    a new creature you may be,
  • 46:00 - 46:02
    and no matter how much old
    things may have passed away
  • 46:02 - 46:04
    and all things become new,
  • 46:04 - 46:06
    I guarantee you this,
  • 46:06 - 46:08
    you are not glorified yet.
  • 46:08 - 46:09
    And until you are,
  • 46:09 - 46:12
    you know what the problem is?
  • 46:12 - 46:14
    We have been renewed on the inside,
  • 46:14 - 46:16
    and day by day, we're being renewed,
  • 46:16 - 46:19
    but this outside -
  • 46:19 - 46:22
    we still live in the same fallen body.
  • 46:22 - 46:23
    And we have not experienced
  • 46:23 - 46:25
    the resurrection of our bodies.
  • 46:25 - 46:27
    We have not experienced the glorification
  • 46:27 - 46:29
    of these.
  • 46:29 - 46:31
    These things belong here.
  • 46:31 - 46:33
    They're of this place.
  • 46:33 - 46:34
    And because they are,
  • 46:34 - 46:36
    we still tote around the flesh.
  • 46:36 - 46:38
    The flesh.
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    The word "flesh" - that sinful part of us
  • 46:41 - 46:44
    sounds a whole lot like
    what I've got right here.
  • 46:44 - 46:45
    Why? Because it's connected.
  • 46:45 - 46:49
    Sin seeks to reign in my mortal body.
  • 46:49 - 46:51
    Why? Because that's where the flesh is.
  • 46:51 - 46:53
    That's the only place sin can any longer
  • 46:53 - 46:56
    find a seat.
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    And that's why even on our best days,
  • 46:58 - 47:00
    we find this struggle.
  • 47:00 - 47:03
    We find this battle that goes on. Why?
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    Because these things wage war against us.
  • 47:06 - 47:08
    Sin wages war against us.
  • 47:08 - 47:11
    Fleshly lusts wage war against us.
  • 47:11 - 47:13
    No matter how righteous
    your life might be -
  • 47:13 - 47:14
    and I guarantee you this,
  • 47:14 - 47:15
    if you're truly saved,
  • 47:15 - 47:17
    your life looks a whole lot different
  • 47:17 - 47:20
    than it did before.
  • 47:20 - 47:23
    It's not yet what you want it to be,
  • 47:23 - 47:26
    but it is certainly a whole lot different
  • 47:26 - 47:28
    than it used to be.
  • 47:28 - 47:30
    That's the picture of Christianity
  • 47:30 - 47:32
    displayed before us.
  • 47:32 - 47:34
    We're still putting sin to death.
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    And I'll tell you, once in a while,
  • 47:35 - 47:37
    while we're putting it to death,
  • 47:37 - 47:38
    it lashes out at us
  • 47:38 - 47:41
    and knocks us in the jaw good.
  • 47:41 - 47:44
    And if you want to go
    over to your little mirror
  • 47:44 - 47:45
    and gaze in that mirror
  • 47:45 - 47:48
    and try to draw out of that confidence
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    in your standing before God,
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    you're going to fall right on your face.
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    And you'll get about as
    much assurance out of that
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    as you can out of a very
    imperfect performance.
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    What you want to go over
    and look in the mirror at
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    and gaze at is the glory of Christ
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    working and sweating and laboring out
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    a salvation in our stead.
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    Working out a perfect righteousness.
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    Fulfilling all righteousness.
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    Born of a virgin; born under the law.
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    And keeping that law so that His Father
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    could say, "This is My Son,
    in Whom I'm well pleased."
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    Well pleased.
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    And by the obedience of one,
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    the many are declared righteous.
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    And you have a very similar truth
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    come at us in Isaiah 53.
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    Brethren, who can bring charge against us?
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    It's God who justifies.
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    There is now therefore no condemnation
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    to them that are in Christ.
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    That's where our confidence is.
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    That's where we look.
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    That's where we trust.
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    And I'll tell you this, brethren,
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    you're only going to be saved
    if you make it to the end.
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    You're only going to be saved,
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    if you stay locked into
    that Gospel to the end.
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    Isn't that exactly how we started
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    when we read out of 1 Corinthians 15?
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    Brethren, I'll read it to you again.
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    "I would remind you, brothers,
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    of the Gospel I preached to you
  • 49:24 - 49:27
    which you received, in which you stand,
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    and by which you are being saved,
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    if you hold fast to the
    Word I preached to you
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    unless you believed in vain."
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    Brethren, faith to faith.
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    The just shall live by faith.
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    We live in faith of the Gospel now.
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    In it, the righteousness
    of God is revealed.
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    That's our hope.
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    Well, we'll get to creation next week.
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    Any questions or comments or observations?
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    (unintelligible)
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    To the Thessalonians on several occasions,
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    he said, "more and more."
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    They were loving already,
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    but more and more.
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    Love characterizes the redeemed life,
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    but more and more,
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    pressing on, pressing upward,
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    towards Christlikeness,
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    onward, upward, inward.
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    We do believe in progressive
    sanctification.
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    No question about it.
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    Progressive sanctification, and yet,
  • 51:11 - 51:15
    the new birth is so radical
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    that when a person is first born again,
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    they become new creatures in Christ.
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    Although they are not what they'll be
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    even in a year,
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    old things have passed away.
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    And there's something
    drastically different and new.
  • 51:41 - 51:43
    Sometimes if you're
    looking from the outside,
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    we don't always see it so much
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    because the body doesn't hardly change,
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    but that's a reality.
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    It's kind of like this,
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    we live way down here in the doldrums
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    of total wretchedness and depravity,
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    all the way down at
    the bottom of the barrel.
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    We're born again
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    and we fly way up to this level.
  • 52:11 - 52:13
    And then now it's kind of this...
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    and we have our ups and our downs,
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    but it's constantly upward.
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    And the Spirit of God takes us
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    through that sin-killing,
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    walking in the Spirit more and more
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    adventure going on to perfection.
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    That's kind of the picture
    we get in the Scriptures.
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    And the thing that the Bible warns about
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    is no matter what this thing looks like,
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    if you return to the vomit and the mire,
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    you show yourself to be a pig.
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    Never a lamb.
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    (from the room)
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    It's heartbreaking how many churches
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    don't teach this.
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    Tim: It's heartbreaking how many churches
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    have abandoned the Scriptures.
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    You know what?
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    The danger in all of this
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    is what we're talking about is the Gospel.
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    If we were talking about ecclesiology,
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    maybe the forms of church government,
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    or if we were talking about eschatology,
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    maybe the end times,
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    we could have some happy debates maybe.
  • 53:42 - 53:44
    But we're talking about the Gospel.
  • 53:44 - 53:49
    We're talking about if people are wrong:
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    "Many will say to Me in that day,
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    'Lord, Lord.'"
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    And He's going to say, "I never knew you."
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    This is life and death.
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    This isn't marginal.
    This isn't optional.
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    Folks, people can get bent out of shape.
  • 54:12 - 54:19
    They can get all worked up.
  • 54:19 - 54:26
    But if they're wrong, they're wrong.
  • 54:26 - 54:29
    They can be so confident in this world -
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    blindly confident;
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    unbiblically confident.
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    If you're wrong in that day, you're wrong.
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    And it's going to cost you your soul.
  • 54:45 - 54:49
    We can be wrong about lots of things.
  • 54:49 - 54:56
    Brethren, it's supposed to rain tomorrow.
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    If we're wrong, if you
    think it's not going to,
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    you don't take your umbrella,
    you get rained on.
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    I don't carry an umbrella anyway.
    I don't care if I get rained on.
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    Bottom line is you can be
    wrong about the weather,
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    it doesn't really matter.
  • 55:15 - 55:18
    If you're wrong about this,
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    it's all that matters.
  • 55:24 - 55:28
    If you're wrong about this,
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    there's hell to pay.
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    We don't want to hide anything.
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    We just want to say it
    like the Bible says it.
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    Brethren, the thing is
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    none of us should be embarrassed
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    about any of this.
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    This is what the Bible says.
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    We're open to examination
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    from anybody and everybody.
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    We're not like the Jehovah's Witnesses
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    that have to come to the door
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    and be subversive
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    and not really tell our agenda,
  • 56:00 - 56:02
    not really tell what we believe.
  • 56:02 - 56:03
    We can lay it out there.
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    This is what we believe.
  • 56:06 - 56:10
    Bottom line, if somebody looks to Christ,
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    and it doesn't radically change the life,
  • 56:15 - 56:20
    they're going to hear
    words on judgment day
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    of such horror and fear
  • 56:23 - 56:31
    that they do not want to hear.
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    Brethren, think about it,
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    if this wasn't true,
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    what in the world advantage do I have
  • 56:41 - 56:42
    to emphasize this?
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    None at all!
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    You know what, if the truth was
  • 56:45 - 56:50
    that we could be saved and live like hell,
  • 56:50 - 56:53
    I'd tell you that.
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    But the Bible doesn't say that.
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    And you know the thing
    about it is anyway,
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    brethren, God gives us new desires.
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    Don't you guys agree?
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    I don't want to live like hell.
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    I don't.
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    The two things I want
    more than anything else
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    in the entire universe
  • 57:14 - 57:17
    is to see Christ face-to-face,
  • 57:17 - 57:22
    and to be done with sin forever.
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    Those are the two greatest
    longings of my heart.
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    Even if I found that you could
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    live like hell and get to heaven,
  • 57:29 - 57:30
    I wouldn't want that.
  • 57:30 - 57:32
    I don't want that.
  • 57:32 - 57:34
    Even if I could find out I could
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    live here forever living like hell
  • 57:38 - 57:39
    and never have Christ -
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    that would be hell to me.
  • 57:41 - 57:44
    I want Christ.
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    And I want to be like Him.
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    That's what the Gospel produces.
  • 57:53 - 57:58
    And that's our hope, right?
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    And as it was brought up before,
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    we read this in Ephesians 1.
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    The Holy Spirit -
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    He's the guarantee of our inheritance
  • 58:13 - 58:16
    until we acquire possession of it.
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    What does that mean?
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    Well, where the Holy Spirit is,
    He puts sin to death.
  • 58:22 - 58:23
    Where the Holy Spirit is
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    He works love, He works joy,
  • 58:27 - 58:29
    He works peace -
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    you know those fruits of the Spirit.
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    Where the Spirit is
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    He assists us in our prayer, does He not?
  • 58:40 - 58:43
    Where the Spirit is He bears witness
  • 58:43 - 58:46
    with our spirit that
    we're children of God.
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    Where the Spirit is He's
    the Spirit of adoption
  • 58:49 - 58:52
    by which we cry, "Abba, Father."
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    Those that have the Spirit
    are led by the Spirit.
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    Those that have the Spirit
    walk in the Spirit.
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    You see, having the Spirit
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    as a guarantee of our inheritance
  • 59:09 - 59:12
    is not a blind thing.
  • 59:12 - 59:13
    It's something that's real.
  • 59:13 - 59:16
    It produces fruit.
  • 59:16 - 59:20
    And if the fruit of the Spirit isn't there
  • 59:20 - 59:22
    then you give the very evidence
  • 59:22 - 59:26
    that you don't possess the guarantee
  • 59:26 - 59:28
    of salvation.
  • 59:28 - 59:32
    You see where I'm coming from?
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    There's no question the
    Spirit is the guarantee.
  • 59:35 - 59:37
    But the way that's a guarantee to us
  • 59:37 - 59:40
    is we see the manifestations
  • 59:40 - 59:45
    of the presence of the very Spirit -
  • 59:45 - 59:49
    the Spirit Who leads us into truth;
  • 59:49 - 59:56
    the Spirit Who convicts us of sin;
  • 59:56 - 59:59
    a Spirit Who can be grieved.
  • 59:59 - 60:02
    And when once you've
    been given a love for Christ,
  • 60:02 - 60:05
    a love for truth,
    a love for righteousness,
  • 60:05 - 60:09
    and you grieve the Spirit, you feel it.
  • 60:09 - 60:12
    Any of you that have
    known the smile of Christ
  • 60:12 - 60:15
    and then had it disappear,
  • 60:15 - 60:17
    any of you that have known that,
  • 60:17 - 60:19
    you know what that feels like.
  • 60:19 - 60:24
    For the Christian, that's
    the worst thing in this life.
  • 60:24 - 60:30
    Give me trials, just don't
    hide Your face from me!
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    Any other comments, questions?
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    Okay, what would you guys say?
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    What verse would you go to
  • 60:39 - 60:42
    to absolutely solidify to somebody
  • 60:42 - 60:44
    that you cannot lose your salvation?
  • 60:44 - 60:52
    (unintelligible)
  • 60:52 - 60:55
    He's the guarantee of our salvation.
  • 60:55 - 60:57
    You can't guarantee salvation
  • 60:57 - 60:58
    by giving the Spirit of God
  • 60:58 - 61:00
    if the Spirit of God can be taken away
  • 61:00 - 61:02
    and it's no guarantee.
  • 61:02 - 61:04
    There are any number of places
  • 61:04 - 61:06
    that we could go to,
  • 61:06 - 61:13
    but it was brought up the New Covenant.
  • 61:13 - 61:15
    "This is the covenant that I will make
  • 61:15 - 61:17
    with the house of Israel after these days
  • 61:17 - 61:18
    declares the Lord,
  • 61:18 - 61:20
    I will put My law within them;
  • 61:20 - 61:21
    I will write it on their hearts;
  • 61:21 - 61:23
    I will be their God;
  • 61:23 - 61:25
    they shall be My people.
  • 61:25 - 61:27
    No longer shall each
    one teach his neighbor
  • 61:27 - 61:28
    and each one his brother saying,
  • 61:28 - 61:30
    'Know the Lord,' for
    they shall all know Me
  • 61:30 - 61:31
    from the least of them to the greatest,
  • 61:31 - 61:32
    declares the Lord.
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    I will forgive their iniquities.
  • 61:34 - 61:36
    I will remember their sin no more."
  • 61:36 - 61:37
    And then over in v. 32,
  • 61:37 - 61:40
    He says this, "They shall be My people.
  • 61:40 - 61:41
    I will be their God.
  • 61:41 - 61:43
    I will give them one heart and one way
  • 61:43 - 61:46
    that they may fear Me forever,
  • 61:46 - 61:47
    for their own good
  • 61:47 - 61:49
    and the good of their children after them,
  • 61:49 - 61:51
    I will make with them
    an everlasting covenant.
  • 61:51 - 61:53
    I will not turn away from
    doing good to them.
  • 61:53 - 61:55
    I will put the fear of Me in their hearts
  • 61:55 - 61:58
    that they may not turn from Me."
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    I will put My fear in their hearts
  • 62:00 - 62:03
    that they will not turn from Me.
  • 62:03 - 62:06
    And I think grandmother back there
  • 62:06 - 62:10
    brought up 1 Peter 1:5,
  • 62:10 - 62:13
    "We are kept..." the ESV
  • 62:13 - 62:14
    doesn't bring it forth as clearly,
  • 62:14 - 62:16
    but the KJV: "We are kept
  • 62:16 - 62:20
    by the power of God through faith."
  • 62:20 - 62:24
    And we are kept.
  • 62:24 - 62:27
    He will complete that work -
    we've got Philippians 1:6.
  • 62:27 - 62:30
    But the very tenets of the New Covenant -
  • 62:30 - 62:31
    nothing's left up to us.
  • 62:31 - 62:34
    God says, "I will,
    I will, I will, I will..."
  • 62:34 - 62:38
    And He says, "I will put My fear in them
  • 62:38 - 62:40
    that they not turn away from Me.
  • 62:40 - 62:45
    I will rejoice in doing them good."
  • 62:45 - 62:48
    Ezekiel 36 - we can go there as well
  • 62:48 - 62:54
    and just carry on all the "I will's"
    that He says He's going to do.
  • 62:54 - 62:59
    In Ezekiel 36, He says,
  • 62:59 - 63:01
    "I will sprinkle clean water on you
  • 63:01 - 63:04
    and you shall be clean
    from all your uncleanesses
  • 63:04 - 63:06
    and from your idols, I will cleanse you.
  • 63:06 - 63:07
    I will give you a new heart
  • 63:07 - 63:10
    and a new spirit I will put within you
  • 63:10 - 63:12
    and I will remove the heart
    of stone from your flesh
  • 63:12 - 63:14
    and give you a heart of flesh,
  • 63:14 - 63:16
    and I will put My Spirit within you
  • 63:16 - 63:18
    and cause you to walk in My statutes
  • 63:18 - 63:20
    and be careful to obey My rules."
  • 63:20 - 63:22
    And if somebody comes along and says,
  • 63:22 - 63:24
    well, yeah, He said He'd do
    that for the house of Israel,
  • 63:24 - 63:26
    I would say, whoa...
  • 63:26 - 63:29
    did you never read that
    a true Jew is one inwardly?
  • 63:29 - 63:31
    And circumcision is a matter of the heart?
  • 63:31 - 63:32
    And to the Gentile Philippians,
  • 63:32 - 63:35
    he says we're the true circumcision.
  • 63:35 - 63:37
    What is that? Philippians 3:3.
  • 63:37 - 63:39
    We are the true circumcision.
  • 63:39 - 63:43
    And it doesn't matter
    if we're Gentiles or not.
  • 63:43 - 63:46
    Who is a true child of Abraham?
  • 63:46 - 63:48
    According to Galatians.
  • 63:48 - 63:51
    They're those who have
    faith in Jesus Christ.
  • 63:51 - 63:52
    Bottom line, a true child of Abraham
  • 63:52 - 63:54
    are those that believe in Jesus Christ.
  • 63:54 - 63:56
    The true circumcision are those that what?
  • 63:56 - 63:59
    Put no confidence in the flesh.
  • 63:59 - 64:04
    They make their boast in the Lord.
  • 64:04 - 64:08
    If they want to say, well,
    that's speaking about Israel,
  • 64:08 - 64:10
    well, we are the Israel of God.
    We're the true Jew.
  • 64:10 - 64:13
    Who? All of those who
    are children of Abraham.
  • 64:13 - 64:15
    All of those who by faith
  • 64:15 - 64:21
    have trusted Christ.
  • 64:21 - 64:23
    Do you guys believe that?
  • 64:23 - 64:24
    That's what the Scriptures speak.
  • 64:24 - 64:27
    Have you ever read in Ephesians 2?
  • 64:27 - 64:30
    It says that middle wall of partition
  • 64:30 - 64:32
    has been taken down. How?
  • 64:32 - 64:36
    He's created one new man from the two.
  • 64:36 - 64:38
    And what?
  • 64:38 - 64:42
    We used to be at one time
  • 64:42 - 64:45
    called the uncircumcision by
    what is called the circumcision
  • 64:45 - 64:48
    which was made in
    the flesh by hands, right?
  • 64:48 - 64:49
    At one time, we were.
  • 64:49 - 64:51
    At one time, we were what?
  • 64:51 - 64:53
    Separated from Christ.
  • 64:53 - 64:55
    You were alienated from
    the commonwealth of Israel.
  • 64:55 - 64:58
    We were separated from
    the covenants of promise.
  • 64:58 - 65:01
    But now, that's not true.
  • 65:01 - 65:02
    Now we're not.
  • 65:02 - 65:04
    We're no longer on the outside.
  • 65:04 - 65:06
    Now, we're fellow citizens.
  • 65:06 - 65:08
    We're heirs, folks.
  • 65:08 - 65:10
    We're on the inside.
  • 65:10 - 65:13
    We all - those who were near
    and those who were far -
  • 65:13 - 65:17
    have been all brought and accepted by God
  • 65:17 - 65:19
    through the shedding
    of the blood of Christ.
  • 65:19 - 65:22
    He's done this, folks.
  • 65:22 - 65:27
    We Gentiles by faith in Christ
  • 65:27 - 65:29
    are true Israel.
  • 65:29 - 65:31
    So don't ever let anybody disarm you
  • 65:31 - 65:32
    of the New Covenant
  • 65:32 - 65:36
    just because they say
    that promise is for the Jews.
  • 65:36 - 65:37
    There's no question about it.
  • 65:37 - 65:39
    But have you never read in Romans 9?
  • 65:39 - 65:42
    "Not all Israel is Israel."
  • 65:42 - 65:45
    There is a spiritual Israel
  • 65:45 - 65:49
    to whom the promises have truly been made.
  • 65:49 - 65:51
    And in fact, when Paul realizes
  • 65:51 - 65:53
    some of the Jews are going
    to take issue with that,
  • 65:53 - 65:55
    he said, whoa, wasn't it even said
  • 65:55 - 65:58
    way back to Moses,
  • 65:58 - 66:02
    "I will have mercy upon
    whom I will have mercy,
  • 66:02 - 66:03
    and I will show compassion
  • 66:03 - 66:05
    to those to whom I will show compassion."
  • 66:05 - 66:09
    And it says God shows compassion
  • 66:09 - 66:11
    and God hardens.
  • 66:11 - 66:17
    There are vessels of mercy
    and there are vessels of wrath.
  • 66:17 - 66:18
    You know, the problem is
  • 66:18 - 66:21
    we make God out to be a very small God
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    when we say we can lose our salvation.
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    Yeah, He's not strong enough to keep us.
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    But, He's not only strong
    enough to keep us,
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    He's strong enough to keep
    us doing good to the end.
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    He's strong enough to keep us persevering
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    all the way.
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    You see, you make God weak either way.
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    If you say, "God can't keep us,"
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    you make Him weak.
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    And if you say,
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    "We're going to make it,
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    but we're not going to
    make it doing good works,"
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    you make Him weak too
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    because you're saying basically
    He's going to drop the ball.
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    But He says, Philippians 1:6 - let's read.
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    Do you have your KJV over there?
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    Somebody read the KJV.
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    Philippians 1:6
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    I never memorized it in the ESV,
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    so I'm not sure exactly how it reads.
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    Philippians 1:6,
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    "Being confident of this very thing,
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    that He which hath
    begun a good work in you
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    will perform it until
    the day of Jesus Christ."
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    Paul was confident.
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    God was going to perform
    it to the day of Christ.
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    Any other questions or comments
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    or observations?
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    (from the room)
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    I think what I'm hearing though
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    is that you don't know if
    you've really been sealed
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    unless you persevere to the end.
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    It's like saying that the narrow way
    is more like a narrow plank.
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    I can walk sincerely believing on Christ
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    for 15 or 20 years and fall off.
  • 68:11 - 68:13
    But the fact that I fell off proves
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    that I was not in Christ.
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    So what churns in my heart
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    is where's the peace
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    that Christ leaves with us?
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    So I feel that the only assurance
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    is if you persevere to the end.
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    It's not that there's faith in Christ...
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    (unintelligible)
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    Tim: Well, actually, that's exactly
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    what I wasn't saying
    as far as the mirror thing.
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    And that if we keep going
    back to that mirror
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    and we keep gazing in that mirror
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    at our performance,
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    that basically that is not
    where the power of God
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    is dispelled into the
    life of the believer.
  • 69:03 - 69:06
    It is looking to what Christ
    has accomplished for us.
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    But there's no question about it,
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    the Bible is replete
    with texts that tell us
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    that we've got to endure to the end,
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    that there's got to be a
    keeping of His commandments,
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    that there's got to be
    a practicing of righteousness,
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    and so, Paul can come to the Corinthians
  • 69:25 - 69:29
    and say, look, fornicators, adulterers,
  • 69:29 - 69:32
    thieves, effeminate,
    homosexuals, whatever...
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    they don't inherit the kingdom.
  • 69:36 - 69:38
    Bottom line,
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    the Bible never is going
    to give confidence
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    to a person who's walking a wicked life
  • 69:45 - 69:47
    to believe that the power of God
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    has ever transformed them.
  • 69:48 - 69:51
    They shouldn't expect to have any hope.
  • 69:51 - 69:53
    But bottom line is this,
  • 69:53 - 69:57
    the Spirit of God is distinctly
    said in Romans 8:16
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    to bear witness with our spirit
    that we're children of God.
  • 70:00 - 70:03
    And in fact, if we go back before that
  • 70:03 - 70:05
    to about Romans 5:5,
  • 70:05 - 70:07
    we've got the truth
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    that the love of God
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    is shed abroad in our
    hearts by the Spirit.
  • 70:16 - 70:18
    And if you read, you see
    where that love's coming from.
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    It's coming out of the cross.
  • 70:21 - 70:22
    And I would say this,
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    that bottom line,
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    if somebody is truly saved,
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    they love Christ,
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    they believe Christ,
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    they trust Christ,
  • 70:35 - 70:36
    they look to the cross
  • 70:36 - 70:38
    and they find hope in Christ,
  • 70:38 - 70:41
    and the Spirit of God energizes
  • 70:41 - 70:44
    that look to the cross
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    and floods that person
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    from one degree to another
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    with assurance.
  • 70:49 - 70:51
    And that Spirit is the Spirit of adoption
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    that is bearing witness.
  • 70:54 - 70:55
    And it's the Spirit of adoption
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    that brings an inner compulsion
  • 70:58 - 71:02
    now to look at God not as
    a far and a distant God,
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    but as a God Who's very close
  • 71:04 - 71:05
    and Who is a Father.
  • 71:05 - 71:07
    We cry, "Abba, Father."
  • 71:07 - 71:10
    And so, bottom line is
  • 71:10 - 71:14
    the Christian feeds and finds his strength
  • 71:14 - 71:15
    in Christ.
  • 71:15 - 71:18
    Christ said that He was going to send
  • 71:18 - 71:21
    a Helper or a Comforter.
  • 71:21 - 71:24
    And He said that
    "He's going to glorify Me."
  • 71:24 - 71:25
    I guarantee you this,
  • 71:25 - 71:28
    no matter what operation
    the Spirit is involved with,
  • 71:28 - 71:30
    Christ is the focus.
  • 71:30 - 71:32
    Christ is always the focus.
  • 71:32 - 71:36
    Not the Spirit - Christ is the focus.
  • 71:36 - 71:39
    And in our assurance,
  • 71:39 - 71:41
    in our strength,
  • 71:41 - 71:44
    in our persevering,
  • 71:44 - 71:46
    Christ is always going
    to be central to that.
  • 71:46 - 71:49
    And the Spirit is going to
    bring that assurance,
  • 71:49 - 71:51
    bring peace,
  • 71:51 - 71:52
    bring that confidence,
  • 71:52 - 71:55
    bring a sense of that shedding abroad
  • 71:55 - 71:57
    of the love of God into my heart
  • 71:57 - 71:59
    as we gaze at Christ.
  • 71:59 - 72:03
    And that is a real, vital
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    manifestation of the Spirit of God
  • 72:05 - 72:08
    that the true Christian
    is going to experience.
  • 72:08 - 72:13
    And so, I think what happens is
  • 72:13 - 72:15
    we end up creating a straw man
  • 72:15 - 72:17
    if we're not careful.
  • 72:17 - 72:21
    And what I mean by that,
  • 72:21 - 72:23
    the man doesn't exist
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    who has true assurance from the Spirit
  • 72:27 - 72:29
    and no works.
  • 72:29 - 72:30
    It's a straw man.
  • 72:30 - 72:34
    The man who, in the end, falls out
  • 72:34 - 72:37
    was a man maybe who in self-righteousness
  • 72:37 - 72:42
    was striving to please
    God in his own merits.
  • 72:42 - 72:45
    He's a man who maybe was a Pharisee
  • 72:45 - 72:51
    and he put up a good outer shell show.
  • 72:51 - 72:52
    He had confidence in a lot of things,
  • 72:52 - 72:54
    maybe in his church-going,
  • 72:54 - 72:57
    maybe in his efforts, but like Demas,
  • 72:57 - 72:58
    he ends up falling out.
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    But I guarantee you,
  • 73:00 - 73:03
    whatever confidence he had
    was a vain confidence.
  • 73:03 - 73:06
    And it wasn't a Spirit
    of God-wrought thing.
  • 73:06 - 73:11
    And so, no, I would adamantly
    say that's not true.
  • 73:11 - 73:14
    The true Christian doesn't all of a sudden
  • 73:14 - 73:17
    find out at the end of
    the race that he's true.
  • 73:17 - 73:24
    The true Christian had that
    Spirit of God indwelling,
  • 73:24 - 73:28
    and there was true, living manifestations
  • 73:28 - 73:30
    of His presence
  • 73:30 - 73:32
    that gave the believer confidence.
  • 73:32 - 73:35
    And where the Spirit gives confidence,
  • 73:35 - 73:37
    the Spirit also works love
  • 73:37 - 73:39
    and works the fruits of the Spirit
  • 73:39 - 73:43
    and works these works in us,
  • 73:43 - 73:44
    giving us desires,
  • 73:44 - 73:46
    giving us the compulsion,
  • 73:46 - 73:47
    giving us a love for God
  • 73:47 - 73:50
    that compels us and constrains us
  • 73:50 - 73:53
    by the love of Christ to carry this out.
  • 73:53 - 73:55
    And the two go hand-in-hand.
  • 73:55 - 73:59
    Where men and women fall out of the race,
  • 73:59 - 74:00
    they didn't have that.
  • 74:00 - 74:03
    They had confidence
  • 74:03 - 74:05
    and they believed certain things,
  • 74:05 - 74:07
    but in the end, it was a vain confidence.
  • 74:07 - 74:10
    And I believe the truth is
  • 74:10 - 74:12
    the flags were always there,
  • 74:12 - 74:16
    because Jesus Christ
    says this in Matthew 7:
  • 74:16 - 74:20
    "Depart from Me, you
    workers of lawlessness."
  • 74:20 - 74:26
    And bottom line, it was there.
  • 74:26 - 74:27
    There was lawlessness.
  • 74:27 - 74:31
    The Spirit of God was not
    communicating with them
  • 74:31 - 74:33
    the way the Spirit of God does.
  • 74:33 - 74:35
    Because they weren't children.
  • 74:35 - 74:38
    And in the end,
  • 74:38 - 74:40
    it wasn't true. It wasn't right.
  • 74:40 - 74:43
    We have a lot of people
    with vain confidence.
  • 74:43 - 74:46
    A lot of people believing
    that everything is okay,
  • 74:46 - 74:51
    but it's vain.
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    And so, yeah, if that's
    what it sounded like,
  • 74:57 - 75:01
    definitely I don't think
    that's anywhere at all
  • 75:01 - 75:06
    the flavor that we feel coming from
  • 75:06 - 75:09
    what the Spirit of God
    does in the life of a believer.
  • 75:09 - 75:10
    (from the room)
  • 75:10 - 75:13
    1 John 5:13 also says,
  • 75:13 - 75:14
    "I'm writing these things to you
  • 75:14 - 75:16
    who believe in the name of the Son of God
  • 75:16 - 75:19
    that you may know that
    you have eternal life."
  • 75:19 - 75:22
    Right, and you know,
  • 75:22 - 75:24
    think about 1 John.
  • 75:24 - 75:26
    What are the proofs in 1 John
  • 75:26 - 75:28
    that we're true believers?
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    We keep His commandments.
  • 75:31 - 75:35
    We walk as He walked.
  • 75:35 - 75:39
    We have answer to prayer.
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    We love the brethren.
  • 75:43 - 75:46
    Basically, you go through all these proofs
  • 75:46 - 75:48
    and you get to the
    last chapter and he says
  • 75:48 - 75:50
    I write these things that
    you might have assurance.
  • 75:50 - 75:52
    And there's no question about it.
  • 75:52 - 75:55
    Folks, I don't know how it is with you.
  • 75:55 - 75:58
    I look at the cross
  • 75:58 - 75:59
    and the Spirit of God
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    assures me I'm His child.
  • 76:02 - 76:04
    Then I look at my life
  • 76:04 - 76:10
    and I see I'm not what I used to be.
  • 76:10 - 76:12
    And that gives me assurance.
  • 76:12 - 76:15
    And then I find out that when I stray,
  • 76:15 - 76:19
    the Spirit of God -
    my Father comes for me
  • 76:19 - 76:21
    and He lays the rod on my back
  • 76:21 - 76:22
    and He brings me back.
  • 76:22 - 76:24
    I have found that the corrections of God
  • 76:24 - 76:29
    in my life,
  • 76:29 - 76:32
    they give me assurance
    like few other things do,
  • 76:32 - 76:35
    that I see His faithfulness to me;
  • 76:35 - 76:37
    that if ever I begin to stray,
  • 76:37 - 76:39
    bang! He's there. He's on me.
  • 76:39 - 76:40
    And He pulls me back.
  • 76:40 - 76:42
    I mean, sometimes that has caused me
  • 76:42 - 76:45
    to go to tears more than anything.
  • 76:45 - 76:46
    He is so faithful.
  • 76:46 - 76:48
    That gives me such confidence.
  • 76:48 - 76:50
    He's not going to let me go.
  • 76:50 - 76:52
    I'm in my Father's hand.
  • 76:52 - 76:58
    If I start drifting, He
    puts the clamps down.
  • 76:58 - 77:03
    This thing is real. It's living.
  • 77:03 - 77:05
    I look at this thing and realize
  • 77:05 - 77:07
    I need to make it to the end.
  • 77:07 - 77:10
    I pray, "God, get me to the end!"
  • 77:10 - 77:11
    "Help me to the end!"
  • 77:11 - 77:15
    Because I feel that if God let me go,
  • 77:15 - 77:19
    I would run away.
  • 77:19 - 77:22
    I mean, prone to wander,
  • 77:22 - 77:23
    Lord, I feel it.
  • 77:23 - 77:25
    I feel it.
  • 77:25 - 77:27
    If You let me go, I'm going!
  • 77:27 - 77:30
    Not that I want to, but I feel that.
  • 77:30 - 77:34
    I feel the battle.
  • 77:34 - 77:36
    But at the same time,
  • 77:36 - 77:40
    I feel this confidence.
  • 77:40 - 77:42
    Do I expect that God's going
    to take me to the end? Yes.
  • 77:42 - 77:44
    I don't feel like I have
    to wait to the end
  • 77:44 - 77:46
    to figure out whether I'm truly saved.
  • 77:46 - 77:48
    I believe with all my heart
    God has truly saved me.
  • 77:48 - 77:52
    And I've seen a massive
    transformation in my life.
  • 77:52 - 77:55
    And I think that's exactly what
    the Bible tells us we should see.
  • 77:55 - 77:56
    And on top of that,
  • 77:56 - 78:00
    I've known repeatedly the floodings
  • 78:00 - 78:01
    and the sheddings abroad
  • 78:01 - 78:04
    of the love of God in my heart
  • 78:04 - 78:06
    at sights of the cross.
  • 78:06 - 78:11
    I know that He has caused me to will
  • 78:11 - 78:14
    in a way that I never willed before.
  • 78:14 - 78:17
    I have a desire now to do things
  • 78:17 - 78:20
    I never had a desire for before.
  • 78:20 - 78:22
    I know I don't love
    the brethren perfectly,
  • 78:22 - 78:24
    but I love the brethren.
  • 78:24 - 78:26
    I want to be around Christians.
  • 78:26 - 78:27
    I want to be where they are.
  • 78:27 - 78:29
    I want to talk with them.
  • 78:29 - 78:31
    I love the same Christ they love.
  • 78:31 - 78:34
    I love being at church with them.
  • 78:34 - 78:38
    I love hearing preaching.
    I love hearing about Christ.
  • 78:38 - 78:40
    I mean, the simple Gospel -
  • 78:40 - 78:43
    there's times that when
    I'm studying for a message
  • 78:43 - 78:54
    and I'm looking at just the old truths,
  • 78:54 - 78:56
    and they flood over me again,
  • 78:56 - 79:01
    and then I find myself falling
    out of my chair on the floor.
  • 79:01 - 79:02
    Can you guys relate to this?
  • 79:02 - 79:04
    This is Christianity.
  • 79:04 - 79:07
    This is the living reality.
  • 79:07 - 79:11
    This is life in Christ.
  • 79:11 - 79:14
    This isn't make-believe.
  • 79:14 - 79:16
    (from the room)
  • 79:16 - 79:19
    One last thing in regards
    to what the brother said
  • 79:19 - 79:21
    I think about assurance,
  • 79:21 - 79:23
    on that day when the Lord said
  • 79:23 - 79:26
    not all those who call Me
    Lord shall enter the kingdom,
  • 79:26 - 79:29
    and there was that one
    worker of iniquity that said,
  • 79:29 - 79:32
    Lord, we cast out demons in Your name.
  • 79:32 - 79:35
    And they stood before Him
  • 79:35 - 79:37
    and questioned the Lord about His works
  • 79:37 - 79:39
    (unintelligible).
  • 79:39 - 79:45
    I've never seen assurance described
  • 79:45 - 79:48
    that says that you must place your trust
  • 79:48 - 79:50
    in the fact that you prayed the prayer
  • 79:50 - 79:52
    and you believe.
  • 79:52 - 79:53
    That doesn't guarantee assurance.
  • 79:53 - 79:56
    Assurance is by what pastor
    brought forth in the Word
  • 79:56 - 79:58
    and that is by the work of your life.
  • 79:58 - 80:03
    (unintelligible)
  • 80:03 - 80:06
    That worker of iniquity never once said,
  • 80:06 - 80:10
    "But I was sure! You gave me assurance."
  • 80:10 - 80:13
    Tim: No, He was drawing
    it out of the fact,
  • 80:13 - 80:15
    He was there with God's people,
  • 80:15 - 80:17
    did some mighty works,
  • 80:17 - 80:20
    we cast out demons, we spoke in tongues.
  • 80:20 - 80:23
    (Incomplete thought)
  • 80:23 - 80:26
    And you know, you get at the end too,
  • 80:26 - 80:30
    and you've got judgment day in Matthew 25.
  • 80:30 - 80:32
    Isn't it interesting?
  • 80:32 - 80:35
    "I was naked. You clothed Me."
  • 80:35 - 80:41
    "I was naked, and you didn't clothe Me."
  • 80:41 - 80:45
    I was pointing past you, brother.
  • 80:45 - 80:53
    He doesn't care. He's not even listening.
  • 80:53 - 80:56
    Anything else before we stop?
  • 80:56 - 80:58
    Okay.
  • 80:58 - 81:00
    (from the room)
  • 81:00 - 81:01
    Just to finish it off,
  • 81:01 - 81:09
    Paul talks about you were delivered
  • 81:09 - 81:11
    by grace through faith -
  • 81:11 - 81:12
    you were saved by grace through faith.
  • 81:12 - 81:15
    That same thing that you were saved by,
  • 81:15 - 81:18
    continue in that same thing as well.
  • 81:18 - 81:24
    (unintelligible)
  • 81:24 - 81:27
    It's not about the
    reflection of who you are,
  • 81:27 - 81:28
    but who He is.
  • 81:28 - 81:30
    It's Who God the Father sees,
  • 81:30 - 81:32
    which is Christ in His righteousness
  • 81:32 - 81:35
    upon your life, and not your own self.
  • 81:35 - 81:38
    Tim: And I still have faith to this day
  • 81:38 - 81:39
    20 years later
  • 81:39 - 81:42
    that I don't know anywhere else to go
  • 81:42 - 81:44
    when I'm in trouble.
  • 81:44 - 81:47
    And I'm in trouble pretty regular -
  • 81:47 - 81:51
    like hourly.
  • 81:51 - 81:53
    Amen.
  • 81:53 - 81:54
    Good night.
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Salvation, once saved always saved? - Tim Conway
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