Return to Video

The human stories behind mass incarceration

  • 0:01 - 0:03
    I have never been arrested,
  • 0:03 - 0:05
    never spent a night in jail,
  • 0:05 - 0:09
    never had a loved one
    thrown into the back of a squad car
  • 0:09 - 0:10
    or behind bars,
  • 0:10 - 0:15
    or be at the mercy of a scary,
    confusing system
  • 0:15 - 0:18
    that at best sees them with indifference,
  • 0:18 - 0:20
    and at worst as monstrous.
  • 0:20 - 0:24
    The United States of America locks up
    more people than any other nation
  • 0:24 - 0:26
    on the planet,
  • 0:26 - 0:29
    and Louisiana is our biggest incarcerator.
  • 0:29 - 0:32
    Most of you are probably like me --
  • 0:32 - 0:33
    lucky.
  • 0:33 - 0:38
    The closest we get to crime and punishment
    is likely what we see on TV.
  • 0:38 - 0:39
    While making "Unprisoned,"
  • 0:39 - 0:42
    I met a woman who used to be like us --
  • 0:42 - 0:43
    Sheila Phipps.
  • 0:44 - 0:46
    (Recording) Sheila Phipps:
    Before my son went to jail,
  • 0:46 - 0:48
    I used to see people be on television,
  • 0:48 - 0:52
    fighting, saying, "Oh, this person
    didn't do it and this person is innocent."
  • 0:52 - 0:55
    And you know, you snub them
    or you dismiss them,
  • 0:55 - 0:57
    and like, "Yeah, whatever."
  • 0:57 - 0:58
    Don't get me wrong,
  • 0:58 - 1:00
    there's a lot of people
    who deserve to be in prison.
  • 1:00 - 1:02
    There's a lot of criminals out here.
  • 1:02 - 1:05
    But there are a lot of innocent
    people that's in jail.
  • 1:06 - 1:10
    EA: Sheila's son, McKinley,
    is one of those innocent people.
  • 1:10 - 1:15
    He served 17 years of a 30-year sentence
    on a manslaughter charge.
  • 1:15 - 1:16
    He had no previous convictions,
  • 1:16 - 1:19
    there was no forensic
    evidence in the case.
  • 1:19 - 1:23
    He was convicted solely
    on the basis of eyewitness testimony,
  • 1:23 - 1:25
    and decades of research have shown
  • 1:25 - 1:28
    that eyewitness testimony
    isn't as reliable
  • 1:28 - 1:30
    as we once believed it to be.
  • 1:31 - 1:34
    Scientists say that memory isn't precise.
  • 1:34 - 1:37
    It's less like playing back a video,
  • 1:37 - 1:39
    and more like putting together a puzzle.
  • 1:40 - 1:45
    Since 1989, when DNA testing
    was first used to free innocent people,
  • 1:46 - 1:51
    over 70 percent of overturned convictions
    were based on eyewitness testimony.
  • 1:52 - 1:53
    Last year,
  • 1:53 - 1:57
    the district attorney whose office
    prosecuted McKinley's case
  • 1:57 - 2:01
    was convicted of unrelated
    corruption charges.
  • 2:01 - 2:05
    When this district attorney
    of 30 years stepped down,
  • 2:05 - 2:08
    the eyewitnesses
    from McKinley's case came forward
  • 2:08 - 2:12
    and said that they had been pressured
    into testifying by the district attorneys,
  • 2:12 - 2:15
    pressure which included
    the threat of jail time.
  • 2:15 - 2:18
    Despite this, McKinley is still in prison.
  • 2:19 - 2:21
    (Recording) SP: Before this happened,
  • 2:21 - 2:22
    I never would've thought it.
  • 2:22 - 2:26
    And well, I guess it's hard
    for me to imagine
  • 2:26 - 2:29
    that these things is going on, you know,
  • 2:29 - 2:31
    until this happened to my son.
  • 2:32 - 2:33
    It really opened my eyes.
  • 2:34 - 2:36
    It really, really opened my eyes.
  • 2:36 - 2:38
    I ain't gonna lie to you.
  • 2:39 - 2:42
    EA: Estimates of how many innocent
    people are locked up
  • 2:42 - 2:45
    range between one and four percent,
  • 2:45 - 2:47
    which maybe doesn't sound like a lot,
  • 2:47 - 2:51
    except that it amounts
    to around 87,000 people:
  • 2:51 - 2:54
    mothers, fathers, sons locked up,
  • 2:54 - 2:56
    often for decades,
  • 2:56 - 2:58
    for crimes they did not commit.
  • 2:58 - 3:01
    And that's not even counting
    the roughly half a million people
  • 3:01 - 3:03
    who have been convicted of nothing --
  • 3:03 - 3:05
    those presumed innocent,
  • 3:05 - 3:08
    but who are too poor to bail out of jail
  • 3:08 - 3:12
    and therefore sit behind bars
    for weeks upon months,
  • 3:12 - 3:14
    waiting for their case to come to trial --
  • 3:14 - 3:16
    or much more likely,
  • 3:16 - 3:18
    waiting to take a plea just to get out.
  • 3:19 - 3:22
    All of those people
    have family on the outside.
  • 3:23 - 3:27
    (Recording) Kortney Williams: My brother
    missed my high school graduation
  • 3:27 - 3:28
    because the night before,
  • 3:28 - 3:29
    he went to jail.
  • 3:29 - 3:32
    My brother missed my birthday dinner
  • 3:32 - 3:35
    because that day, actually,
    he went to jail.
  • 3:35 - 3:38
    My brother missed his own birthday dinner
  • 3:38 - 3:41
    because he was in the wrong place
    at the wrong time.
  • 3:41 - 3:44
    (Recording) EA: So all these times
    when he ended up going to jail,
  • 3:44 - 3:46
    were charges pressed
    or did he just get taken to jail?
  • 3:46 - 3:48
    KW: The charges would be pressed
  • 3:48 - 3:51
    and it would have a bond posted,
  • 3:51 - 3:53
    then the charges will get dropped ...
  • 3:53 - 3:54
    because there was no evidence.
  • 3:55 - 3:58
    EA: I met Kortney Williams
    when I went to her college classroom
  • 3:58 - 4:00
    to talk about "Unprisoned."
  • 4:00 - 4:03
    She ended up interviewing her aunt,
    Troylynn Robertson,
  • 4:03 - 4:04
    for an episode.
  • 4:05 - 4:08
    (Recording) KW: With everything
    that you went through
  • 4:08 - 4:09
    with your children,
  • 4:09 - 4:11
    what is any advice that you would give me
  • 4:11 - 4:13
    if I had any kids?
  • 4:14 - 4:17
    (Recording) Troylynn Roberston:
    I would tell you when you have them,
  • 4:17 - 4:20
    you know the first thing
    that will initially come to mind is love
  • 4:20 - 4:22
    and protection,
  • 4:22 - 4:24
    but I would tell you,
  • 4:24 - 4:27
    even much with the protection
    to raise them
  • 4:27 - 4:30
    with knowledge of the judicial system --
  • 4:31 - 4:34
    you know, we always tell our kids
    about the boogeyman,
  • 4:34 - 4:37
    the bad people, who to watch out for,
  • 4:37 - 4:41
    but we don't teach them
    how to watch out for the judicial system.
  • 4:42 - 4:45
    EA: Because of the way
    our criminal legal system
  • 4:45 - 4:48
    disproportionately targets
    people of color,
  • 4:48 - 4:51
    it's not uncommon for young people
    like Kortney to know about it.
  • 4:51 - 4:55
    When I started going into high schools
    to talk to students about "Unprisoned,"
  • 4:55 - 4:59
    I found that roughly one-third
    of the young people I spoke with
  • 4:59 - 5:01
    had a loved one behind bars.
  • 5:02 - 5:05
    (Recording) Girl: The hardest part
    is like finding out where he's at,
  • 5:05 - 5:06
    or like, when his court date is.
  • 5:07 - 5:09
    Girl: Yeah, he went to jail
    on my first birthday.
  • 5:10 - 5:12
    Girl: My dad works as a guard.
  • 5:12 - 5:14
    He saw my uncle in jail.
  • 5:15 - 5:16
    He's in there for life.
  • 5:16 - 5:19
    EA: According to the Annie E.
    Casey Foundation,
  • 5:19 - 5:25
    the number of young people with a father
    incarcerated rose 500 percent
  • 5:25 - 5:28
    between 1980 and 2000.
  • 5:28 - 5:32
    Over five million of today's children
    will see a parent incarcerated
  • 5:32 - 5:34
    at some point in their childhoods.
  • 5:35 - 5:39
    But this number disproportionately
    affects African-American children.
  • 5:40 - 5:43
    By the time they reach the age of 14,
  • 5:43 - 5:47
    one in four black children
    will see their dad go off to prison.
  • 5:47 - 5:51
    That's compared to a rate
    of one in 30 for white children.
  • 5:51 - 5:56
    One key factor determining the future
    success of both inmates and their children
  • 5:56 - 6:01
    is whether they can maintain ties
    during the parent's incarceration,
  • 6:01 - 6:05
    but prisoners' phone calls home
    can cost 20 to 30 times more
  • 6:05 - 6:07
    than regular phone calls,
  • 6:07 - 6:10
    so many families
    keep in touch through letters.
  • 6:11 - 6:13
    (Recording: Letter being unfolded)
  • 6:13 - 6:16
    Anissa Christmas: Dear big brother,
  • 6:16 - 6:17
    I'm making that big 16 this year, LOL.
  • 6:18 - 6:20
    Guess I'm not a baby anymore.
  • 6:20 - 6:21
    You still taking me to prom?
  • 6:21 - 6:22
    I really miss you.
  • 6:23 - 6:25
    You're the only guy
    that kept it real with me.
  • 6:25 - 6:28
    I wish you were here so I can vent to you.
  • 6:29 - 6:31
    So much has happened since
    the last time I seen you.
  • 6:33 - 6:35
    (Voice breaking up) I have some good news.
  • 6:35 - 6:37
    I won first place in the science fair.
  • 6:37 - 6:38
    I'm a geek.
  • 6:38 - 6:40
    We're going to regionals,
    can't you believe it?
  • 6:40 - 6:42
    High school is going by super fast.
  • 6:43 - 6:44
    In less than two years,
  • 6:44 - 6:47
    I hope you'll be able to see me
    walk across the stage.
  • 6:47 - 6:50
    I thought to write to you
    because I know it's boring in there.
  • 6:50 - 6:52
    I want to put a smile on your face.
  • 6:54 - 6:56
    Anissa wrote these letters to her brother
  • 6:56 - 6:58
    when she was a sophomore in high school.
  • 6:58 - 7:01
    She keeps the letters he writes to her
    tucked into the frame
  • 7:01 - 7:02
    of her bedroom mirror,
  • 7:03 - 7:05
    and reads them over and over again.
  • 7:05 - 7:07
    I'd like to think
    that there's a good reason
  • 7:07 - 7:10
    why Anissa's brother is locked up.
  • 7:10 - 7:14
    We all want the wheels of justice
    to properly turn,
  • 7:14 - 7:15
    but we're coming to understand
  • 7:15 - 7:19
    that the lofty ideals we learned
    in school look really different
  • 7:19 - 7:22
    in our nation's prisons
    and jails and courtrooms.
  • 7:23 - 7:27
    (Recording) Danny Engelberg: You walk
    into that courtroom and you're just --
  • 7:27 - 7:30
    I've been doing this for a quite a while,
    and it still catches your breath.
  • 7:30 - 7:33
    You're like, "There are so many
    people of color here,"
  • 7:33 - 7:38
    and yet I know that the city is not
    made up of 90 percent African-Americans,
  • 7:38 - 7:41
    so why is it that 90 percent
    of the people who are in orange
  • 7:41 - 7:42
    are African-American?
  • 7:42 - 7:46
    (Recording) EA: Public defender Danny
    Engelberg isn't the only one noticing
  • 7:46 - 7:48
    how many black people
    are in municipal court --
  • 7:48 - 7:49
    or in any court.
  • 7:49 - 7:50
    It's hard to miss.
  • 7:51 - 7:53
    Who's sitting in court
    waiting to see the judge?
  • 7:53 - 7:54
    What do they look like?
  • 7:54 - 7:57
    (Recording) Man: Mostly
    African-Americans, like me.
  • 7:57 - 7:59
    Man: It's mostly, I could say,
    85 percent black.
  • 7:59 - 8:02
    That's all you see in the orange,
    in the box back there, who locked up.
  • 8:02 - 8:05
    Man 2: Who's waiting? Mostly black.
  • 8:05 - 8:07
    I mean, there was a couple
    of white people in there.
  • 8:07 - 8:10
    Woman: I think it was about
    85 percent African-American
  • 8:10 - 8:11
    that was sitting there.
  • 8:12 - 8:16
    EA: How does a young black person
    growing up in America today
  • 8:16 - 8:18
    come to understand justice?
  • 8:19 - 8:22
    Another "Unprisoned" story
    was about a troupe of dancers
  • 8:22 - 8:24
    who choreographed a piece
    called "Hoods Up,"
  • 8:24 - 8:26
    which they performed
    in front of city council.
  • 8:27 - 8:30
    Dawonta White was in the seventh grade
    for that performance.
  • 8:31 - 8:35
    (Recording) Dawonta White: We was wearing
    black with hoodies because Trayvon Martin,
  • 8:35 - 8:37
    when he was wearing his hoodie,
    he was killed.
  • 8:38 - 8:39
    So we looked upon that,
  • 8:39 - 8:42
    and we said we're going to wear
    hoodies like Trayvon Martin.
  • 8:42 - 8:44
    (Recording) EA: Who came up
    with that idea?
  • 8:44 - 8:46
    DW: The group. We all agreed on it.
  • 8:46 - 8:48
    I was a little nervous,
    but I had stick through it though,
  • 8:48 - 8:53
    but I felt like it was a good thing
    so they could notice what we do.
  • 8:53 - 8:56
    (Recording) EA: Shraivell Brown
    was another choreographer and dancer
  • 8:56 - 8:57
    in "Hoods up."
  • 8:57 - 9:00
    He says the police criticize
    people who look like him.
  • 9:00 - 9:03
    He feels judged based on things
    other black people may have done.
  • 9:03 - 9:05
    How would you want
    the police to look at you
  • 9:05 - 9:07
    and what would you want them to think?
  • 9:07 - 9:08
    SB: That I'm not no threat.
  • 9:08 - 9:10
    EA: Why would they think
    you're threatening?
  • 9:10 - 9:12
    What did you say, you're 14?
  • 9:12 - 9:17
    SB: Yes, I'm 14, but because he said
    a lot of black males
  • 9:17 - 9:20
    are thugs or gangsters and all that,
  • 9:20 - 9:23
    but I don't want them thinking
    that about me.
  • 9:24 - 9:26
    EA: For folks who look like me,
  • 9:26 - 9:30
    the easiest and most comfortable
    thing to do is to not pay attention --
  • 9:30 - 9:34
    to assume our criminal
    legal system is working.
  • 9:34 - 9:38
    But if it's not our responsibility
    to question those assumptions,
  • 9:38 - 9:40
    whose responsibility is it?
  • 9:41 - 9:45
    There's a synagogue here that's taken on
    learning about mass incarceration,
  • 9:45 - 9:47
    and many congregants have concluded
  • 9:47 - 9:51
    that because mass incarceration
    throws so many lives into chaos,
  • 9:51 - 9:53
    it actually creates more crime --
  • 9:53 - 9:55
    makes people less safe.
  • 9:56 - 9:58
    Congregant Teri Hunter says
  • 9:58 - 10:01
    the first step towards action
    has to be understanding.
  • 10:01 - 10:07
    She says it's crucial for all of us
    to understand our connection to this issue
  • 10:07 - 10:10
    even if it's not immediately obvious.
  • 10:11 - 10:13
    (Recording) Teri Hunter:
    It's on our shoulders
  • 10:13 - 10:17
    to make sure that we're not
    just closing that door
  • 10:17 - 10:18
    and saying, "Well, it's not us."
  • 10:19 - 10:23
    And I think as Jews, you know,
    we've lived that history:
  • 10:23 - 10:24
    "It's not us."
  • 10:25 - 10:30
    And so if a society
    closes their back on one section,
  • 10:30 - 10:31
    we've seen what happens.
  • 10:31 - 10:35
    And so it is our responsibility as Jews
  • 10:35 - 10:38
    and as members of this community
  • 10:38 - 10:41
    to educate our community --
  • 10:41 - 10:44
    at least our congregation --
  • 10:44 - 10:46
    to the extent that we're able.
  • 10:47 - 10:51
    EA: I've been using
    the pronouns "us" and "we"
  • 10:51 - 10:54
    because this is our criminal legal system
  • 10:54 - 10:55
    and our children.
  • 10:56 - 10:58
    We elect the district attorneys,
  • 10:58 - 11:02
    the judges and the legislators
    who operate these systems
  • 11:02 - 11:03
    for we the people.
  • 11:04 - 11:05
    As a society,
  • 11:05 - 11:09
    we are more willing to risk
    locking up innocent people
  • 11:09 - 11:12
    than we are to let guilty people go free.
  • 11:12 - 11:16
    We elect politicians
    who fear being labeled "soft on crime,"
  • 11:16 - 11:19
    encouraging them to pass harsh legislation
  • 11:19 - 11:23
    and allocate enormous resources
    toward locking people up.
  • 11:23 - 11:25
    When a crime is committed,
  • 11:25 - 11:30
    our hunger for swift retribution
    has fed a police culture
  • 11:30 - 11:33
    bent on finding culprits fast,
  • 11:33 - 11:37
    often without adequate resources
    to conduct thorough investigations
  • 11:37 - 11:40
    or strict scrutiny
    of those investigations.
  • 11:41 - 11:44
    We don't put checks on prosecutors.
  • 11:45 - 11:48
    Across the country,
    over the last couple of decades,
  • 11:48 - 11:52
    as property and violent crimes
    have both fell,
  • 11:52 - 11:57
    the number of prosecutors employed
    and cases they have filed has risen.
  • 11:57 - 12:00
    Prosecutors decide
    whether or not to take legal action
  • 12:00 - 12:02
    against the people police arrest
  • 12:02 - 12:05
    and they decide what charges to file,
  • 12:05 - 12:11
    directly impacting how much time
    a defendant potentially faces behind bars.
  • 12:12 - 12:16
    One check we do have
    on prosecutors is defense.
  • 12:16 - 12:18
    Imagine Lady Liberty:
  • 12:18 - 12:20
    the blindfolded woman holding the scale
  • 12:20 - 12:23
    meant to symbolize the balance
    in our judicial system.
  • 12:24 - 12:27
    Unfortunately, that scale is tipped.
  • 12:27 - 12:30
    The majority of defendants in our country
  • 12:30 - 12:33
    are represented by
    government-appointed attorneys.
  • 12:33 - 12:37
    These public defenders
    receive around 30 percent less funding
  • 12:37 - 12:39
    than district attorneys do,
  • 12:39 - 12:42
    and they often have caseloads
    far outnumbering
  • 12:42 - 12:45
    what the American Bar
    Association recommends.
  • 12:45 - 12:47
    As Sheila Phipps said,
  • 12:47 - 12:50
    there are people who belong in prison,
  • 12:50 - 12:54
    but it's hard to tell
    the guilty from the innocent
  • 12:54 - 12:57
    when everyone's outcomes are so similar.
  • 12:58 - 12:59
    We all want justice.
  • 13:00 - 13:03
    But with the process weighed
    so heavily against defendants,
  • 13:03 - 13:05
    justice is hard to come by.
  • 13:06 - 13:10
    Our criminal legal system
    operates for we the people.
  • 13:11 - 13:13
    If we don't like what's going on,
  • 13:13 - 13:15
    it is up to us to change it.
  • 13:16 - 13:17
    Thank you very much.
  • 13:17 - 13:24
    (Applause)
Title:
The human stories behind mass incarceration
Speaker:
Eve Abrams
Description:

more » « less
Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
13:39

English subtitles

Revisions Compare revisions