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From Weeping to Whipping (Part 2) - Tim Conway

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    I want us to experience Christ
    more than anything.
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    I want us to know His presence.
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    I want us to know His power.
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    I want us to be familiar with
    the workings of His Spirit.
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    I want us to fall more deeply in love.
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    I want us to know more of the cross.
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    I want to be able to enter in
    more with His heart.
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    That's why I wanted to set Christ
    before you yesterday.
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    That pattern.
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    I want you to see Him.
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    I want there to be something of
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    the Spirit of God working
    through what we see,
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    burning in Him and have
    that etched upon us.
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    I desire that.
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    And one of the texts
    in the Scriptures
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    that I keep coming back to in my mind
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    over and over and over,
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    Lord, no matter what
    You give us;
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    no matter if we see conversions;
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    no matter if we're
    allowed to have
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    the privilege to be able
    to plant churches
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    or go to the mission field
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    or send guys out.
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    If we see these young people,
    and they're coming to us
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    and they're burning
    with a passion;
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    I love those things!
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    I don't want those things to go away,
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    but I realize in the end of it,
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    Lord, if You don't give us more than that,
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    if You don't give us
    a sense of Yourself...
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    and I come to the Scriptures and
    over and over and over again
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    I find in John 14:21
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    I find this promise:
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    Christ saying,
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    "I will manifest Myself to you."
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    "I will manifest Myself."
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    What does that speak of?
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    It speaks of an experiential
    interaction with Christ.
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    Manifestation.
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    There's an appeal to the senses.
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    Christ comes near in a way
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    that we feel, we sense,
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    there's something that we're
    able to lay hold of.
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    And I guarantee you this,
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    when Christ comes near
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    in a manifest expression
    of glory and presence,
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    it can't do anything but
    cause us to burn.
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    It can't do anything but cause passion.
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    You cannot have Christ come near
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    except it does something in you.
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    It stirs you.
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    It creates heat.
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    It creates fire.
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    But I'll tell you this,
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    Christian, I'm speaking to you
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    that have a profession.
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    It's conditional.
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    He says if you have My commandments
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    and you keep them.
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    It's amazing how the church is today.
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    Oh, we can see this shift.
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    Are you guys going to be given up
    to the providence we heard about?
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    Well, providentially, you know
    what's happening today.
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    Everything's moving
    away from the U.S.
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    It's going to China.
    It's going to Korea.
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    Ok, are you just going to settle down
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    and settle for a nice, slow death?
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    And accept that providence?
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    Man, I can tell you, when we
    were taking off on that work,
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    some brethren from the
    Sovereign Grace circles
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    that I love, I love to
    hear them preach;
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    they'd say things to me like,
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    "The Lord's done."
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    The Lord's done.
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    The second coming
    has to be at hand.
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    There's no more.
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    We don't see anymore of the
    workings of God.
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    We might as well throw in the towel.
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    I mean, there's providence folks.
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    They're all moving to Korea.
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    Underground church in China.
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    Ok, do that.
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    Just settle in.
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    Allow that.
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    Take that as providence.
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    Or you can rise up and say,
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    no, I'm going to bust
    through that ceiling.
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    Because I'll tell you this,
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    you say you have any desire
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    for Christ to come near?
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    You say you have any desire
    to experience more of Him
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    than you've ever
    experienced in your life?
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    You say that?
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    Who was it? I think
    it was Lloyd-Jones
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    that said,
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    Your desire for Christ;
    your desire to know Him;
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    your desire for Him to draw near,
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    it's tested by your obedience.
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    Based on texts just like that.
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    In John 14:21 - just like that.
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    We say, oh, we want
    Him to draw near.
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    We say we want revival.
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    We say we want these things.
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    We're like these pathetic
    hyper-Calvinists.
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    Well, these were pretty
    stirring meetings,
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    and what we're going to do,
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    we're going to sit back,
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    and we're going to
    hope God does something.
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    You know what the basis
    of hyper-Calvinism is?
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    It's basically saying this,
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    whether you're lost or
    whether you're saved,
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    it's saying this,
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    I can't do something.
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    There's something that spiritually,
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    in and of myself,
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    I don't have the ability to carry out.
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    And so, I'm going to sit back
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    and I'm going to wait for God to do it.
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    And then I'm going to
    jump on the bandwagon.
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    Those weren't hyper-Calvinists
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    that busted through that ceiling that day.
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    They said be done with that.
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    We want to get to Christ.
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    We want to be in His presence.
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    We're going to press
    in to the inner place.
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    We don't care if we
    knock some dirt
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    on the Pharisee's foreheads.
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    Let it fall on them.
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    We're getting in there.
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    Folks, I'm going to start and
    I'm going to end this
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    by hitting on some men
    that stayed at home
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    and they were faithful.
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    But I'll tell you what,
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    there was fire that burned there,
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    and they wanted this.
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    They wanted it.
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    I want the missionary endeavor
    for a number of reasons.
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    But one of the things, folks,
    that we have to come to grips with.
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    Matthew 28:18-20
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    We have a divine imperative.
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    And if we sit here in our nice
    little safe comfortable places
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    and we wonder why; we sit
    back, we don't do anything,
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    we wonder why?
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    Why are people going to sleep?
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    Why is this happening?
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    This is a point of obedience, folks.
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    We want to amass the resources.
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    We don't love to send people away.
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    We don't like to separate.
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    Folks, if we really have a good
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    estimation of the coming
    eternality of things,
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    so be it.
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    So what?
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    Send them away.
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    You know what?
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    I don't expect that all these young guys
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    coming in to our church right now
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    are going to stay there.
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    And so be it.
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    You say you don't love them?
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    No, I do.
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    There are some of these guys
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    I would hate to see go away,
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    but you know what, if they
    go off to the mission field;
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    if they go off somewhere
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    even if they ended
    up like the Stam's.
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    Just in a few short months
    after arriving out there,
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    they lost their heads.
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    Glory be to God.
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    You know what happened when
    those two got their heads cut off?
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    It moved among the young
    people in this country.
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    I think they had like
    700 people after that
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    apply to the China Inland Mission.
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    I'll tell you what,
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    if Jonathan Diaz or one
    of these other guys
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    put their head on the block
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    and it costs them their head
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    to have 700 more like him to
    come along behind,
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    I'll take it.
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    Where is Jonathan?
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    That's not to say you're the
    expendable one, brother.
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    Matthew 28:18
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    "Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
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    'All power is given unto Me in heaven
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    and in earth.
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    Go ye, therefore, and teach all nations,
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    baptizing them in the name of the Father,
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    and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost;
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    teaching them to observe all things
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    whatsoever I have commanded you,
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    and lo, I am with you alway.'"
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    Let that sink in.
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    Lo, I am with you alway,
    even to the end of the world.
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    One of the greatest indications
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    this is not for the first century
    apostles only
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    is right there.
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    I am with you to the end of the world.
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    I am with you to the end of the ages.
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    Amen.
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    Now yesterday, I attempted to show you
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    and convince you that
    the Lord Jesus Christ
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    was sent from heaven by the Father
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    to this earth.
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    Not as some disinterested stoic.
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    He is that great missionary.
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    The apostle. The sent one.
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    Sent of His Father.
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    Sent from heaven.
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    Sent here full of passion
    for the Father's honor.
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    Full of passion for
    the souls of men.
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    He came from heaven.
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    He didn't leave His passions there
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    when He came.
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    He came with them.
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    He came with His tears.
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    He came with His
    bowels of compassion.
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    He came full of a zeal
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    for His Father's honor and glory.
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    He didn't leave those things behind.
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    He didn't walk around like some
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    monotone robot on this world.
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    He brought those tears.
    He brought that zeal.
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    He brought those bowels of love.
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    And He went right to where sinners were.
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    And the case I'm trying to make
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    is that if we don't likewise
    possess something of
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    the heart and the soul of Jesus Christ
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    burning in our own souls,
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    we can ever forget about missions.
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    It's not going to happen.
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    But the thing is
    we can't forget about it.
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    Because we have what we have
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    right there in Matthew 28.
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    Folks,
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    He said this:
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    "As the Father hath sent Me,
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    even so I am sending you."
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    Here's the thing.
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    Lo, I am with you always.
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    And this is the thing I want you to see.
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    He's promised to be with us
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    even to the end of the world.
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    He walks at our side.
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    Though I can't see Him.
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    Though I can't physically lay
    my fingers right now
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    where Thomas laid his.
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    He's promised.
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    Think about it.
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    He hasn't changed.
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    Does Christ change?
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    The very passions He came
    to this earth with
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    burn in His heart now.
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    And He's promised,
    "I'm with you."
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    He's promised to walk at our side
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    still with Him burning;
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    all this intensity, all this fervor,
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    bidding us onward in the
    missionary endeavor.
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    Our Lord says go.
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    Go to the nations.
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    Go teach them.
    Go disciple them.
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    Go baptize them.
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    Give the nations My commandments.
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    And I'm convinced, it's only those
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    gripped by this heart,
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    by this heat of Christ,
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    who are going to pull this off.
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    Here's Spurgeon.
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    He stayed at home.
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    But listen to the heart of
    this man that stayed at home.
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    I don't even know what number,
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    what percentage of men,
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    would have been sent out of
    the Metropolitan Tabernacle.
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    I didn't look into that.
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    I'll tell you another man
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    who sits at home.
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    Not doing nothing sitting;
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    Maybe I should say
    he stands at home.
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    He runs at home.
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    Look at a guy like John Piper.
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    I can remember sitting in a meeting
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    over in Owensboro,
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    and having a man bring up this fact.
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    That Bethlehem sent out
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    80 missionaries in one summer.
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    More than the collective group of churches
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    being represented in that place
    at that time
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    in their 35 year history.
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    What is it that burns in
    a man like Piper?
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    What is it that burns in a
    man like Spurgeon?
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    I'm wondering that, because
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    I'm seeking to pastor a church
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    and keep that fire alive at home.
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    Here's what he says,
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    Spurgeon meditating on
    Matthew 28:18, 19
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    He says, "While I
    was meditating in private
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    upon this text, I felt myself
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    carried away by its power.
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    I was quite unable calmly to
    consider its terms,
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    or to investigate its argument.
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    The command with which
    the text concludes
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    repeated itself again
    and again and again
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    in my ears, till I found it
    impossible to study,
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    for my thoughts were running
    hither and thither
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    asking a thousand questions,
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    all of them intended to help me
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    in answering for myself the
    solemn inquiry.
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    How am I to go and teach
    all nations,
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    baptizing them in the name of the
    Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost?
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    My ears seemed to hear it as if
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    Christ were then speaking it to me.
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    I could realize His presence by my side.
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    I thought I could see Him
    lifted His peirced hand,
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    and hear Him speak as
    He was wont to speak
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    with authority blended with meekness.
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    Go ye, and teach all nations,
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    baptizing them in the name of
    the all glorious God.
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    Oh, I would that the church
    could hear the Savior
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    addressing these words to her now.
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    For the words of Christ
    are living words.
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    Not having power in them
    yesterday alone,
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    but today also.
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    The injunctions of the Savior
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    are perpetual in their obligation.
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    They were not binding
    on apostles merely,
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    but upon us also.
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    And upon every Christian does
    this yoke fall.
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    We're not exempt today from the
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    service of the first followers
    of the Lamb.
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    Our marching orders are the
    same as theirs.
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    And our Captain requires from
    us obedience,
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    as prompt and perfect
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    as from them.
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    Oh, that His message may not
    fall upon..."
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    now listen to this!
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    "Oh, that His message
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    may not fall upon deaf ears,
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    or be heard by stolid souls."
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    Do you know what that word is?
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    Indifferent, stupid, dense,
    dry, dull.
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    Spurgeon continuing,
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    "Brethren, the heathen are perishing.
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    Shall we let them perish?
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    His name is blasphemed.
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    Shall we be quiet and still?
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    The honor of Christ is cast into the dust.
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    His foes revile His person
    and resist His throne.
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    Shall we, His soldiers, suffer this
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    and not find our hands feeling
    for the hilt of our sword?
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    The Sword of the Spirit,
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    which is the Word of God.
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    Our Lord delayeth His coming.
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    Shall we begin to sleep?
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    To eat?
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    To be drunken?
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    Shall we not rather gird up
    the loins of our mind
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    and cry unto Him,
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    'Come, Lord Jesus,
    come quickly!'
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    The scoffing skeptics of these last days
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    have said that the anticipated conquest
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    of the world for Christ is but a dream.
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    It is asserted by some
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    that the superstitions of the heathens
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    are too strong to be battered down
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    by our teachings.
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    And that the strongholds of Satan
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    are utterly impregnable
    against our attacks.
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    Shall it be so?
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    Shall we be content
    foolishly to sit still?"
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    And he continues,
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    "Oh, that there were might
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    in some human lip
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    to move the thousands of our Isreal
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    to advance at once,
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    unanimously and irresistably
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    to the world's conquest.
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    Like one tremendous tide rising
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    from the depths of the ocean
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    to sweep over the sands,
    the barren sands,
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    which are now given up to
    desolation and death.
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    Oh that once again the voice
    of thunder could be heard."
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    And right here - this is
    the point I'm driving at.
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    "And that the lightning spirit
    could penetrate each heart.
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    And as one man the entire church
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    might take the marching orders
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    of her Lord and go teach all nations,
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    baptizing them in the
    name of Israel's God.
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    Oh, Lord, if we fail to speak,
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    fail not Thou to speak.
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    And if we know not how to
    bear Thy burden,
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    or express Thine awful thoughts,
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    yet speak that with Thou
    all-constraining silent voice
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    which well trained ears can hear.
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    And make Thy servants obedient
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    to Thee now for Christ's sake.
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    Folks, that's it.
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    It's the lightning spirit
    penetrating each heart.
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    And my point is this,
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    you can try to evade this if you want.
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    But you show me an individual,
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    you show me a church,
    a collective group of churches
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    that is raising up men and women
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    for far away places,
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    sending them forth, planting churches,
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    experiencing the saving power of God,
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    and I'll tell you what,
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    somebody there has lightning spirit.
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    Someone's excited.
    Someone's impassioned.
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    You show me your great resources.
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    Show me all your money.
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    Show me your brilliant scholars
    with their high IQ's.
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    And you know what?
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    I'll in turn show you the guy
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    who has the gut level,
    unstoppable lightning and desire.
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    I remember some years ago,
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    I think it was right after I
    was first saved.
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    I listened to a lot of John
    MacArthur in those days.
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    I can remember a message that
    he did in 2 Thessalonians.
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    And I looked that up because
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    I thought it had something particularly
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    applicable to what I wanted to say today.
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    Here's MacArthur speaking,
    and I quote to you,
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    "I remember standing with Russ Hodge
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    on the infield at the
    University of Oregon
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    watching the triangular decathlon meet
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    between the USSR, Poland, and
    The United States.
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    Russ was the coach of the
    American team.
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    He was the former world record holder
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    in the decathlon.
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    And I was standing
    there with him
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    watching the greatest
    athletes in the world
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    preparing to begin the meet."
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    MacArthur says, "there were
    some great Russian athletes.
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    There was one who was
    a massive giant of a man.
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    Just an awesome human specimen.
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    There was a great Polish athlete.
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    There were some tremendous Americans.
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    I said to Russ,
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    'Who is the greatest athlete here?'
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    He pointed to a rather
    slender live young man.
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    He said, 'he's the greatest athlete here.'
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    He, by the way, is an
    outstanding Christian.
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    I said, 'that's wonderful
    to know. Will he win?'
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    He said, 'No, he won't win.'
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    I said, 'What do you mean
    he won't win?
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    If he's the greatest athlete here,
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    who will win?'
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    He said, 'See that guy running
    around the track?
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    That rather short guy over there
    with the blonde wife?
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    You've never heard of him.
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    His name is Bruce Jenner.
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    He'll win.'
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    I said, 'Well, why will he win it
    if he's not the greatest athlete?'
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    He says, 'Because though he doesn't
    have the greatest sheer talent,
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    he's the most mentally tough competitor
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    I've ever seen in my life.'
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    Sure enough, the second day
    in the twilight
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    as he finished the distance event,
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    number 10 event in the decathlon,
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    he came through the winner.
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    And two years later, the whole world
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    knew who he was as he
    circled the track in Montreal
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    with a flag in his hand.
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    He had won the gold
    medal in the Olympics.
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    He was named the greatest
    athlete in the world."
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    I'll tell you what - here's the thing.
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    It wasn't the greatest sheer talent
    that took the day.
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    It was the greatest passion.
  • 20:13 - 20:17
    The greatest gut-level intensity.
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    That's where the drive;
    that's where the determination;
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    that's where the obsession
    grabs hold of a man.
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    That's what takes the day.
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    That's how it is in the
    Christian missionary endeavor.
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    It's the raw passion that tends
    to take the day.
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    It's not always the greatest gifts,
    the greatest talents,
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    the greatest wealth,
    the greatest intellect
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    that comes through in the end.
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    You know what?
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    I thought as I was preparing this
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    about Peter.
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    I can imagine this.
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    The Lord sends away the disciples.
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    They jump in the boat.
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    You know, we find them on
    various occasions in the Gospels.
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    They're out there on the waters;
  • 21:02 - 21:05
    Sea of Galilee.
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    And was wont to happen,
  • 21:07 - 21:11
    the wind whips up,
    the waves get big.
  • 21:11 - 21:13
    They get out there in the middle.
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    Sometimes they had
    the Lord with them;
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    sometimes they didn't.
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    On this one occasion, they're out there.
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    The Lord had stayed behind.
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    And you know they're out
    there on the water.
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    And they saw something you
    typically don't see.
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    There's a guy walking
    across the water.
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    And they were terrified.
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    They thought they saw a ghost.
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    But here's the thing.
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    Think with me about Peter.
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    Because I think what happened right there,
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    it's the perfect picture
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    of the missionary endeavor.
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    It's the perfect picture
    of what I want to see
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    in our church.
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    And I think would probably want to be seen
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    here as well.
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    And in the other churches.
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    You know, the thing about
    people with passion,
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    all you've got to do is give it
    an opportunity to run loose,
  • 22:13 - 22:16
    and it goes.
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    And the one thing you
    can't say about Peter
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    is that he lacked passion.
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    He's in the boat.
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    They're out there,
    terrified at first.
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    The Lord identifies Himself.
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    The King James says it was a ship.
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    It was probably not so much
    what we think of as a ship.
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    You've probably seen
    some of the pictures
  • 22:42 - 22:47
    of some of the fishing crafts
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    that they had over there
    in the Sea of Galilee.
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    I don't know what it would take
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    to have gotten out of that.
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    I don't know if a
    hand on the side
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    and a jump over the side?
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    But here's the Lord.
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    "Come."
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    I'll tell you what,
    Peter's out of there!
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    That's what passion does.
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    It's looking for opportunity.
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    And somebody's going
    to come along and say,
  • 23:11 - 23:12
    yeah, but Peter sunk.
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    Hey, Peter also walked
    on the water.
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    The people who jump out of the boat,
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    typically do sink at times.
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    But they're the ones that jump
    out of the boat.
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    And that's what passion does.
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    His affection.
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    Why do you think he
    was out of the boat?
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    Not because it was such a
    neat thing to walk on the water.
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    He had his eyes
    set on Christ - at first.
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    Yeah, he got sidetracked a
    little bit there,
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    but there's passion.
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    There's passion for Christ.
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    "Come!"
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    He's out of there!
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    Isn't that "come" a
    whole lot like "go?"
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    He's out of there!
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    Give him a chance - he's out of there.
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    What've you got the other
    guys doing?
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    They're sitting tight where it's safe.
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    You know, we've got to
    analyze this thing.
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    We might step out of that boat,
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    and we may not
    have the resources.
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    We may go to the bottom.
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    That's what the overanalyzers are doing.
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    They're over there.
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    They're trying to
    figure this out.
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    Hm... we're not really certain
    if this is going to work out.
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    People with passion,
    they're out there.
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    They at times will definitely sink.
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    But it's people with the passion,
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    it's people with the daring,
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    it's people with the believing.
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    Yes, they do tend to fail at times.
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    But they're the ones doing something.
  • 24:29 - 24:31
    We need that.
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    The ones with passion;
    the ones that run;
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    The ones that step out on faith;
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    they're the ones typically
    that see the miracles.
  • 24:41 - 24:44
    We have come to the point in this country
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    especially among the Calvinistic brethren,
  • 24:48 - 24:50
    where even the sound of miracles
  • 24:50 - 24:54
    just grates in the ears of people.
  • 24:54 - 24:55
    But I guarantee you people like
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    Lloyd-Jones saw them;
  • 24:57 - 24:58
    people like Tozer saw them;
  • 24:58 - 25:02
    people like Duncan Campbell saw them.
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    Why?
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    It may have a lot more to do with faith
  • 25:06 - 25:10
    than the fact that they were wild-eyed
    charismatics who didn't know their Bibles.
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    And I'll tell you what,
  • 25:11 - 25:13
    it's typically the people with passion;
  • 25:13 - 25:15
    it's people that are willing
    to jump out of the boat;
  • 25:15 - 25:17
    it's people willing to trust the Lord;
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    it's people that are willing to
    go when they're beckoned.
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    You know what?
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    Every one of them could have jumped
  • 25:23 - 25:25
    out of that boat in faith,
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    and they would have walked on that water.
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    It takes just a little faith.
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    Folks, you can cast a whole
    mountain into the ocean.
  • 25:32 - 25:39
    That goes for everybody.
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    We have this problem today.
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    Everybody's so worried about
    being presumptuous.
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    Everybody wants to be cautious.
  • 25:48 - 25:50
    Overanalyzing.
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    But I'll tell you what,
  • 25:51 - 25:55
    the overly cautious,
    the overly analyzing;
  • 25:55 - 25:58
    they're back in the boat.
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    In fact, a whole lot of those folks
  • 25:59 - 26:01
    are back on the shore.
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    They're not even in the boat.
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    They didn't even come that far.
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    There's old William Carey.
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    We've heard about him;
    talked about him.
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    Some of his contemporaries
    told him, sit down!
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    They told him he was an enthusiast.
  • 26:14 - 26:16
    Those nice high Calvinists;
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    they told him he was certain to fail.
  • 26:18 - 26:21
    Those are the guys
    sitting back in the boat.
  • 26:21 - 26:24
    And you don't even know
    most of their names.
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    And you won't find them unless you
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    go read about Carey
  • 26:27 - 26:30
    and find about the guys who resisted him.
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    They're forgotten.
  • 26:31 - 26:34
    The boat sitters are forgotten.
  • 26:34 - 26:38
    I'm not saying this to make
    yourself popular.
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    I'm saying it because it's reality.
  • 26:40 - 26:41
    History forgets those guys.
  • 26:41 - 26:43
    They don't have anything to offer us.
  • 26:43 - 26:44
    Carey does.
  • 26:44 - 26:45
    There was some faith there.
  • 26:45 - 26:47
    There was some fire there.
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    There's something to learn.
  • 26:48 - 26:50
    Carey jumped out of that boat.
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    Or rather, down into the well,
  • 26:52 - 26:53
    as we would say.
  • 26:53 - 26:55
    Did he make mistakes?
  • 26:55 - 26:57
    Certainly he did.
  • 26:57 - 26:59
    Did he receive criticism from others?
  • 26:59 - 27:00
    You better believe it.
  • 27:00 - 27:03
    Even Calvinistic Baptists, absolutely.
  • 27:03 - 27:06
    But who is it that turned the
    world upside down?
  • 27:06 - 27:08
    It was the enthusiast!
  • 27:08 - 27:11
    That's exactly who it was.
  • 27:11 - 27:15
    And his enthusiastic
    friends who stayed at home.
  • 27:15 - 27:19
    The critics are forgotten.
  • 27:19 - 27:21
    Peter's such an excellent
    example of all this.
  • 27:21 - 27:23
    It's passion, brethren.
  • 27:23 - 27:25
    It really is that.
  • 27:25 - 27:29
    It's just that raw power of God
  • 27:29 - 27:33
    let loose in people's lives.
  • 27:33 - 27:36
    And you can read about it.
  • 27:36 - 27:38
    It burned in the men like
  • 27:38 - 27:41
    the Hudson Taylors and the
    Adoniram Judson's,
  • 27:41 - 27:42
    the William Carey's.
  • 27:42 - 27:46
    We need that, brethren,
    we need that.
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    As I thought about this,
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    I thought about, ok,
    let's come around at this
  • 27:50 - 27:53
    from the other end.
  • 27:53 - 27:55
    Let's supposed you're out there,
  • 27:55 - 28:00
    and you don't like passion.
  • 28:00 - 28:03
    In fact, my message has just
    been grating on you.
  • 28:03 - 28:07
    Ok, what I'm going to do
    is I'm going to help you now.
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    I'd like to show you how to
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    kill passion in your people,
    in your churches,
  • 28:11 - 28:13
    and in yourself.
  • 28:13 - 28:14
    If you don't like it;
  • 28:14 - 28:16
    if you see it to be dangerous,
  • 28:16 - 28:17
    upsetting, unhealthy.
  • 28:17 - 28:20
    I'm going to give you a
    four-step remedy
  • 28:20 - 28:22
    to the infectious disease of
  • 28:22 - 28:25
    passionate radicals in your church.
  • 28:25 - 28:28
    And this will take care of
    all the enthusiasts.
  • 28:28 - 28:30
    Here it is.
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    First,
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    just hate passion.
  • 28:36 - 28:37
    In other words,
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    whenever anybody in
    the church gets excited;
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    any unusual fervor,
    any extraordinary weeping,
  • 28:44 - 28:48
    and indication of some
    Spirit-blown, God-endued intensity,
  • 28:48 - 28:51
    make certain that you always
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    and forever question the sincerity of it.
  • 28:54 - 28:55
    Always.
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    I mean they've got
    to be hypocrites, right?
  • 28:57 - 29:02
    Nobody can be like that.
  • 29:02 - 29:04
    If somebody raises a hand,
  • 29:04 - 29:06
    somebody shouts a hallelujah,
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    be sure to stare at them
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    with that dooming
    glare of disapproval.
  • 29:14 - 29:16
    A pastor friend of mine,
  • 29:16 - 29:17
    Bob Jennings.
  • 29:17 - 29:21
    The guy gets worked up.
  • 29:21 - 29:25
    He was at a Banner of Truth conference.
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    Halfway through it, he shouted
    out a hallelujah.
  • 29:29 - 29:32
    They called him down on that!
  • 29:32 - 29:34
    They told him, enough.
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    You close your mouth.
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    You're going to be here,
    we don't want any of that.
  • 29:37 - 29:39
    Yeah, make sure you do that.
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    Anytime that kind of thing breaks out,
    you better shut it down.
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    Anytime some uncontrolled weeping
    breaks out,
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    you better have somebody stand up
    in the church and say enough!
  • 29:48 - 29:51
    We don't want anymore of that.
  • 29:51 - 29:53
    We need to shut this thing down.
  • 29:53 - 29:54
    Second,
  • 29:54 - 29:56
    you want to get the passion out?
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    Just regulate the worship so tightly,
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    be so ordered, so mechanical
  • 30:02 - 30:05
    in the church that any spontaneous
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    outworking of the Spirit of God
  • 30:07 - 30:09
    can never be entertained.
  • 30:09 - 30:11
    Avoid at all costs any opportunity
  • 30:11 - 30:13
    for something supernatural or unusual.
  • 30:13 - 30:17
    Try every imaginable way to
    quench the Spirit.
  • 30:17 - 30:19
    You certainly don't want the living,
  • 30:19 - 30:22
    fiery influences of the Spirit of God
    blowing through the place.
  • 30:22 - 30:26
    He and passion live together.
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    If you want the zealots
    and fanatics gone,
  • 30:28 - 30:30
    you better really grieve the Spirit.
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    Third,
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    overanalyze everything.
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    Make certain that whenever some
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    opportunity for outreach or missions
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    or radical, sacrificial
    giving comes along.
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    Make certain you examine it,
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    re-examine it,
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    and when you've done,
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    you've got to start
    that all over again.
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    Make certain to delay, draw out,
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    pray for things indefinitely.
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    Just disregard the command
    that says, "Go."
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    That's not enough.
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    You've got to look for at least
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    30 or 40 other reasons first.
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    Make sure you do that.
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    That's where the guys are left
    back in the boat.
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    Where Peter walked on the water.
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    Christ said, "Come!"
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    He was out of there.
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    But you've got to do that.
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    You've got to
    overanalyze everything.
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    You've got to look at it;
    you've got to question it.
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    Till everybody in the church
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    that had any passion are asleep.
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    See, if we do that, we're
    likely to make some mistakes.
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    Some bad mistakes.
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    You know what?
    You're going to.
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    Get over that.
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    People with passion do
    make mistakes.
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    So what?
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    They also walk on water.
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    Fourth,
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    You want to kill it?
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    Just keep on laying a good soil
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    for hyper-Calvinism.
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    Oh, we would never admit to it.
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    But, I'll tell you what,
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    all you've got to do
    is look at Matthew 25.
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    What is it?
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    Faith working through love.
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    I expressed to you out of Galatians 5.
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    And you see it worked out in
    Matthew 25.
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    You know what?
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    There you have people who are
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    giving themselves to the needs of others.
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    Just be content in your church
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    to have people be on time on Sundays,
  • 32:12 - 32:13
    be on time on Wednesdays;
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    get to where the prayer meetings
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    are about Aunt Tilda's toe,
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    and everything is about all of our
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    physical needs and breakdowns
    and sicknesses and illness.
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    Nobody ever prays for souls anymore.
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    Just be content.
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    Yeah, they're at church twice a week.
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    They're faithful to do that.
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    They're on time.
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    They have their little
    daily devotional deal.
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    Just be content with that.
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    They never reach out.
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    They never really touch sinners.
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    They never do any of that.
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    Be content with that.
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    You may call it what you want.
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    But there's practical
    hyper-Calvinism there.
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    Just let that breed;
    let that live;
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    be content with that.
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    Never get in somebody's face and
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    really expect them, encourage them,
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    stir them up to faith, to good works,
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    to zeal, to love.
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    Just leave them alone.
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    Tell them it's ok.
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    I'm happy you're on time.
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    That's good.
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    I'm happy your life is all
    well-ordered,
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    and you don't run around in
    the brothels anymore.
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    Just be content with that.
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    You've missed the heart.
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    Get out there.
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    Visit the widow.
    Visit the orphan.
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    Do some things.
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    Radically give.
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    What is this?
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    We've got too many
    today in the churches
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    that are all about this
    legalistic tithing.
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    You guys, we're one of the richest nations
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    ever lived in the history of mankind.
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    And you know what makes me sick?
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    And I don't know if
    I've ever even seen this,
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    but the thought of it is sick to me.
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    That someone would even write out
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    a check in an off dollar amount
  • 33:41 - 33:43
    just to get the percentage right.
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    What are you doing?
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    Is your heart really for people?
  • 33:46 - 33:48
    It is for zeal for God?
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    What are you living your life for?
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    To give the minimal amount?
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    You guys have more than you
    know what to do with.
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    You say, well, it's an
    economic hard time.
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    Oh yeah, how many
    cars do you have?
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    Look at your house.
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    Look at what you're doing
    with your money.
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    Look at your savings accounts.
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    Look at the things
    you're saving up for.
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    When Christ said not to lay up
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    treasure on this earth.
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    Just plant that good seed for
    hyper-Calvinism.
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    Be content with it.
  • 34:09 - 34:11
    We need to get in people's faces
  • 34:11 - 34:13
    and say live the real thing!
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    Live the heart of the matter.
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    Go out and visit the widow.
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    Live your life this way.
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    Visit the stranger.
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    Give yourself radically.
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    If it's to stay
    here in this country,
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    then work your life away,
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    to give the most that you possibly can.
  • 34:25 - 34:27
    Live not equal with your means,
  • 34:27 - 34:29
    above your means,
  • 34:29 - 34:31
    if you've got neck-deep
    in credit card debt,
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    what are you doing?
  • 34:33 - 34:34
    What are you living for?
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    You're living for this world.
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    Just allow that to go on
    unstopped, unchecked in the church.
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    We'll all be dead.
  • 34:48 - 34:50
    Hyper-Calvinism
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    Let me tell you this.
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    I'm aware,
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    most of us are going to be at home.
  • 35:05 - 35:08
    I think, ok, what is it to really
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    pull through at home?
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    Keep that missionary cause
    before our churches.
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    Not just our own
    church, but others.
  • 35:21 - 35:24
    Keep our people with
    some intensity.
  • 35:24 - 35:27
    We want our people
    praying for the right things.
  • 35:27 - 35:30
    Broken over souls.
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    You know how it is.
  • 35:33 - 35:35
    Brother Joe's got the sniffles.
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    Wasn't able to be here tonight.
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    Got to pray for him.
  • 35:41 - 35:43
    I'm not out there in left field.
  • 35:43 - 35:47
    Aunt Tilda's sore toe folks.
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    Are we praying for the things
    that really matter?
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    And praying with some intensity
  • 35:51 - 36:00
    like they really matter to us?
  • 36:00 - 36:03
    If we had any aliveness to us,
  • 36:03 - 36:13
    it would just make us shout and scream.
  • 36:13 - 36:15
    Are we fasting?
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    You guys find it even
    within your lifestyle,
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    even within your willingness
  • 36:24 - 36:27
    to set aside times to fast?
  • 36:27 - 36:30
    And give yourself to particular prayer
  • 36:30 - 36:35
    towards the needs of
    those in other places?
  • 36:35 - 36:37
    What is it that's going to fuel
  • 36:37 - 36:43
    an atmosphere like this at home?
  • 36:43 - 36:45
    I ask myself that.
  • 36:45 - 36:48
    I look at who has sent missionaries forth
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    and done it well.
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    Who's been faithful on the home front
  • 36:52 - 36:54
    all the way to the end?
  • 36:54 - 36:56
    What men, what churches,
    stand out as having
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    that sort of reputation?
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    Because whoever they are,
    wherever they are,
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    I want to see what it is that makes
    people like that tick.
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    As I thought about this,
  • 37:06 - 37:08
    it occurred to me that
  • 37:08 - 37:10
    I don't know that there
    are any more famous -
  • 37:10 - 37:13
    there may have been some
    that have done it better,
  • 37:13 - 37:15
    but I don't know that there are
  • 37:15 - 37:17
    any more famous rope holders.
  • 37:17 - 37:18
    Men who stayed at home,
  • 37:18 - 37:20
    serving the missionary cause,
  • 37:20 - 37:26
    than those men who did support Carey.
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    Now, let me tell you about these guys.
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    You may know the names of some of these.
  • 37:31 - 37:33
    Andrew Fuller.
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    John Sutcliffe.
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    Samuel Pierce.
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    John Ryland, Jr.
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    These are some of the guys.
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    Let me tell you about these guys.
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    They were a whole lot like us.
  • 37:49 - 37:54
    They pastored little Baptist churches.
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    It doesn't take a big
    church to be faithful.
  • 37:57 - 38:03
    It doesn't take enormous
    resources to be faithful.
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    I started thinking about these guys.
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    They were faithful.
  • 38:08 - 38:10
    Listen to Fuller's quote,
  • 38:10 - 38:17
    "Our undertaking to India
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    really appeared to me on its commencement,
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    to be somewhat like a few men
  • 38:23 - 38:25
    who were deliberating about the importance
  • 38:25 - 38:29
    of penetrating into a deep mine,
  • 38:29 - 38:32
    which had never before been explored.
  • 38:32 - 38:34
    We had no one to guide us,
  • 38:34 - 38:36
    and while we were thus deliberating,
  • 38:36 - 38:39
    Carey, as it were, said,
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    'Well, I will go down,
    if you will hold the rope.'
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    But before we went down,
  • 38:47 - 38:48
    continued Fuller,
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    he as it seemed to me
  • 38:50 - 38:53
    took an oath from each of us
  • 38:53 - 38:57
    at the mouth of the pit to this effect,
  • 38:57 - 38:58
    that we, while we lived,
  • 38:58 - 39:01
    should never let go of the rope.
  • 39:01 - 39:03
    You understand me?
  • 39:03 - 39:05
    There was great responsibility
  • 39:05 - 39:10
    attached to us who began the business."
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    And as one has said,
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    whether we stay at home or
    whether we go,
  • 39:14 - 39:15
    we should all have our hands burned
  • 39:15 - 39:16
    by that rope.
  • 39:16 - 39:19
    And folks, these men had the burn marks
  • 39:19 - 39:20
    and the scars.
  • 39:20 - 39:22
    I'm talking the guys
    that stayed at home.
  • 39:22 - 39:24
    Not the Marshman's, not
    the Carey's, not the Ward's.
  • 39:24 - 39:26
    I'm talking these guys: the Pierce,
  • 39:26 - 39:28
    the Ryland, the Sutcliffe, the Fuller;
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    the men that stayed at home.
  • 39:30 - 39:34
    They had the burn marks on their hand.
  • 39:34 - 39:37
    And I'm thinking, ok,
    what is it about these guys?
  • 39:37 - 39:38
    I began to dig.
  • 39:38 - 39:41
    I began to look through
    some of my books,
  • 39:41 - 39:42
    and look on the
    Internet for some things.
  • 39:42 - 39:44
    I discovered something very interesting.
  • 39:44 - 39:46
    Before Carey went to India,
  • 39:46 - 39:47
    listen to this,
  • 39:47 - 39:51
    on Wednesday, April 27, 1791
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    a special meeting was held
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    by the ministers of the
    Northamptonshire Baptist Association.
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    Hear this,
  • 39:57 - 40:01
    in which both Sutcliffe and Fuller
  • 40:01 - 40:04
    preached back-to-back.
  • 40:04 - 40:05
    Now listen.
  • 40:05 - 40:10
    25 years later, the pastor of the church,
  • 40:10 - 40:13
    there in Clipston, where
    the special meeting was held,
  • 40:13 - 40:17
    he recalled the deep
    solemnity that covered the place
  • 40:17 - 40:19
    and how the entire
    congregation was overwhelmed
  • 40:19 - 40:21
    by what it had heard.
  • 40:21 - 40:22
    Now listen to this.
  • 40:22 - 40:25
    John Ryland - he wasn't one of the
    guys that preached,
  • 40:25 - 40:28
    but he was one of the
    rope holders as well.
  • 40:28 - 40:31
    Being there that day
  • 40:31 - 40:35
    having listened to these
    two moving sermons,
  • 40:35 - 40:40
    said that he and all with
    whom he talked afterwards
  • 40:40 - 40:50
    felt a profound conviction
    of their great need for zeal.
  • 40:50 - 40:52
    That's what they were impacted by.
  • 40:52 - 40:56
    They realized that's what they needed.
  • 40:56 - 40:58
    Zeal.
  • 40:58 - 41:00
    And they were persuaded of the evil
  • 41:00 - 41:03
    of negligence and procrastination.
  • 41:03 - 41:05
    I read that. I began thinking to myself,
  • 41:05 - 41:07
    ok, wait, I've got to
    find these two sermons.
  • 41:07 - 41:09
    They met together
    back-to-back that day.
  • 41:09 - 41:10
    I began to look.
    Is it even possible
  • 41:10 - 41:13
    to find that message by Sutcliffe;
    that message by Fuller?
  • 41:13 - 41:16
    I found out that that indeed is the only
  • 41:16 - 41:21
    full surviving sermon
    of Sutcliffe available.
  • 41:21 - 41:24
    I had it in the appendix
    of one of my books.
  • 41:24 - 41:28
    I was able to find Fuller's sermon online.
  • 41:28 - 41:30
    Let me tell you a little bit about these.
  • 41:30 - 41:32
    Fuller's sermon is called,
  • 41:32 - 41:37
    "The Pernicious Influence of Delay
    in Religious Concerns."
  • 41:37 - 41:40
    Fuller took his text that day from
    Haggai 1:2.
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    The Jews, you remember this,
  • 41:42 - 41:45
    had returned from Babylonian exile
  • 41:45 - 41:48
    and they refused to get to work
  • 41:48 - 41:50
    on the rebuilding of the temple.
  • 41:50 - 41:53
    The Lord accused His people of saying
  • 41:53 - 41:55
    the time is not come.
  • 41:55 - 41:59
    The time that the Lord's
    house should be built.
  • 41:59 - 42:01
    And here's the thing.
  • 42:01 - 42:05
    Fuller, seeing the
    procrastination of the Jews
  • 42:05 - 42:07
    in delaying to rebuild the temple,
  • 42:07 - 42:09
    thinking the time has not come,
  • 42:09 - 42:10
    makes this point.
  • 42:10 - 42:13
    Now hear this well.
  • 42:13 - 42:17
    "To put off things to another time,
  • 42:17 - 42:20
    like the task of missions,
  • 42:20 - 42:27
    implies a lurking dislike
    to the things themselves.
  • 42:27 - 42:31
    We do not ordinarily do so,
  • 42:31 - 42:36
    except in things wherein
    we have no delight.
  • 42:36 - 42:39
    Whatever our hearts are set upon,
  • 42:39 - 42:43
    we're for losing no time
    till it is accomplished."
  • 42:43 - 42:45
    Do you guys hear what he's saying?
  • 42:45 - 42:49
    You don't procrastinate
    about what you love.
  • 42:49 - 42:51
    You only put off and
    are slow to accomplish
  • 42:51 - 42:56
    the things you have no passion for.
  • 42:56 - 42:58
    You know why the guys didn't put off
  • 42:58 - 42:59
    getting to Christ?
  • 42:59 - 43:01
    When they had the palsied man?
  • 43:01 - 43:03
    Because there was a passion there.
  • 43:03 - 43:09
    We've got to get to Christ!
  • 43:09 - 43:11
    Then, there's Sutcliffe's sermon.
  • 43:11 - 43:13
    His was actually first.
  • 43:13 - 43:14
    I hold it to last here
  • 43:14 - 43:19
    because boy, he hit this thing
    on the mark.
  • 43:19 - 43:20
    Now remember, folks,
  • 43:20 - 43:24
    these are the guys who stayed faithful.
  • 43:24 - 43:27
    And they're aware of their need of zeal.
  • 43:27 - 43:30
    And they're aware that you don't
  • 43:30 - 43:32
    procrastinate about what you
  • 43:32 - 43:36
    have a zeal for.
  • 43:36 - 43:44
    Sutcliffe
  • 43:44 - 43:48
    His message was called,
  • 43:48 - 43:53
    "Jealousy for the Lord of Hosts."
  • 43:53 - 43:57
    As Sutcliffe closed out his sermon,
  • 43:57 - 44:02
    he sees each Christian as a light
  • 44:02 - 44:05
    in this world.
  • 44:05 - 44:08
    He sees each of these
    individual lights,
  • 44:08 - 44:11
    though somewhat small in themselves,
  • 44:11 - 44:14
    all put together collectively
  • 44:14 - 44:17
    and scattered in the missionary cause
  • 44:17 - 44:18
    around the world
  • 44:18 - 44:21
    so that like the sun,
  • 44:21 - 44:23
    they might endeavor to enlighten
  • 44:23 - 44:24
    the whole earth.
  • 44:24 - 44:26
    Let them be disbursed
  • 44:26 - 44:30
    so that the whole globe
    might be illuminated.
  • 44:30 - 44:32
    And then he says this
  • 44:32 - 44:39
    "Nothing. Nothing will prompt you
  • 44:39 - 44:43
    on in this way, so to act,
  • 44:43 - 44:47
    like the divine passion;
    the celestial fire
  • 44:47 - 44:52
    that burned in the bosom and
    blazed in the life of Elijah.
  • 44:52 - 44:55
    What love! What zeal!
  • 44:55 - 44:57
    What activity become you when
  • 44:57 - 44:59
    thus employed.
  • 44:59 - 45:02
    Animated with jealousy for the
    Lord God of Hosts,
  • 45:02 - 45:05
    you will be like the Son when
    He goeth forth in His strength,
  • 45:05 - 45:08
    or like an army terrible with banners.
  • 45:08 - 45:11
    Under the divine smile,
    Satan will fall before you
  • 45:11 - 45:12
    like lightning from heaven.
  • 45:12 - 45:13
    His power be broken.
  • 45:13 - 45:15
    His policy confounded.
  • 45:15 - 45:17
    While the empire of
    Jesus shall advance.
  • 45:17 - 45:21
    His Kingdom arise and
    the crown flourish upon His head."
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    Brethren, I'm telling you,
  • 45:23 - 45:25
    these men rose up out of the
  • 45:25 - 45:28
    dead hyper-Calvinism of their day
  • 45:28 - 45:30
    They sent men into the mine.
  • 45:30 - 45:32
    They held the rope
    and they knew,
  • 45:32 - 45:36
    nothing short of God-given desire,
  • 45:36 - 45:39
    heart, divine passion, celestial fire,
  • 45:39 - 45:41
    love, zeal, jealousy for
    the Lord God of Hosts.
  • 45:41 - 45:44
    That's it, brethren.
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    That's what I've been trying
    to say, to prove, to show.
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    May God help us.
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    Our time is short.
  • 45:50 - 45:52
    As I wanted to stress.
  • 45:52 - 45:54
    Look, where do you get this?
  • 45:54 - 45:57
    You've got to go up on the holy mountain.
  • 45:57 - 45:59
    That's where the fire comes from.
  • 45:59 - 46:01
    You've got to go there.
  • 46:01 - 46:04
    If you're going to be content
    to spend the rest of your life
  • 46:04 - 46:06
    in front of the television,
    and waste it away,
  • 46:06 - 46:08
    and chasing money,
  • 46:08 - 46:10
    it's not happening.
  • 46:10 - 46:12
    Look.
  • 46:12 - 46:14
    You want to get away from
    the hyper-Calvinism?
  • 46:14 - 46:17
    You don't say, well, what we
    really need here
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    is for God to move.
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    You know what we find
    through the Scriptures?
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    Through history?
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    It's like Tozer said.
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    God moved when and where
    His people moved.
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    Move!
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    That's what faith does.
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    Faith moves.
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    And it trusts, as I move,
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    the resources are coming.
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    I'm going to step out.
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    Brethren, I can tell you
    in these seven years,
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    the folks in our church can tell you,
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    how many times we
    haven't been able to see.
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    It's been black out there.
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    And we've felt like certainly
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    this is in line with the Great Commission.
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    Let's step.
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    We don't see where we're stepping.
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    We can't see anything.
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    And sometimes I've wondered.
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    And I've always thought,
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    Lord, if You let us fall on our face,
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    it's going to come back to You.
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    But every time, you know what?
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    Not once.
    Not once!
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    We have stepped out there.
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    He's held us up.
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    We've got to have these
    passions of Christ
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    etched upon us.
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    We've got to have faith.
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    We've got to take this step.
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    Don't wait.
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    If you folks here at Community realized,
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    yes, it's true.
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    There's been a slide off in a direction
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    we don't like.
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    We want to see something.
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    You can not live on the past.
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    You've got to live today.
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    You've got a responsibility today.
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    What are you going to do?
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    I'm going to sit here an wait
    until God does something.
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    Then you're going to wait a long time.
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    No, what you've got to do is
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    you've got to step out.
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    You say, ok, if you
    come to the place,
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    you say something's wrong.
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    Something's wrong in my own life.
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    Yes, there's a coldness.
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    Then go get on the holy mount.
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    And go there and keep going there.
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    And stay there.
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    And give yourself some time.
  • 48:16 - 48:18
    I heard Paul Washer say before
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    that you know he has churches
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    that come to him and they've got problems
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    or there's weaknesses or
    something's lacking,
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    and he tells them,
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    what you need to
    do is you need to
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    gather the whole
    church together
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    and you guys need
    to go to fasting
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    until God breaks through.
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    And he says they
    don't listen to him.
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    And then they wonder
    why it doesn't work out.
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    What's our lives taken up with?
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    We have a battle to fight here.
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    And the power we need.
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    This passion isn't something
    derived in ourselves.
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    It comes from the Spirit of God.
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    Till you have that image
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    etched upon us, we need that fire
    from the altar.
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    We need this coming together.
  • 48:57 - 48:59
    We've got a mission.
  • 48:59 - 49:00
    But we've got to have passion
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    to bring together with this thing.
  • 49:02 - 49:03
    They knew it.
  • 49:03 - 49:05
    25 years later, they knew it.
  • 49:05 - 49:07
    After they heard these sermons.
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    We've got to have zeal.
  • 49:08 - 49:09
    And I'll tell you what,
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    they were faithful.
  • 49:10 - 49:12
    Sutcliffe was faithful to the end.
  • 49:12 - 49:14
    Fuller. He was faithful to the end.
  • 49:14 - 49:17
    These guys went the whole distance.
  • 49:17 - 49:18
    What are we doing?
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    Are we falling out of the ranks?
  • 49:23 - 49:26
    It's not time to fall out yet.
  • 49:26 - 49:30
    Our journey's not done.
  • 49:30 - 49:32
    For some of us, we're just
    at the beginning.
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    We don't know how much time we've left.
  • 49:37 - 49:42
    Eternity hastens.
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    Look, it's not how I say this.
  • 49:47 - 49:51
    It's not how our
    brother earlier says this.
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    You've got to have something
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    that only comes from God.
  • 49:55 - 49:57
    And unless you're
    determined to have it
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    at all costs,
  • 49:59 - 50:02
    or die trying to get it,
  • 50:02 - 50:03
    I'll tell you what,
  • 50:03 - 50:05
    there's got to be a resignation.
  • 50:05 - 50:07
    If you want to experience the
    manifest presence of Christ,
  • 50:07 - 50:09
    you want to experience that power,
  • 50:09 - 50:11
    you want to ungrieve
    the Spirit of God,
  • 50:11 - 50:13
    if that's what's happened;
  • 50:13 - 50:14
    there's got to be obedience,
  • 50:14 - 50:16
    there's got to be
    resignation in your life.
  • 50:16 - 50:17
    You've got to lay it all down.
  • 50:17 - 50:20
    You've got to lay it out
    there on the altar.
  • 50:20 - 50:22
    We heard Matt say last week,
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    what things did you give up early on
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    in your Christian life that now
  • 50:25 - 50:27
    you're kind of drifting back to.
  • 50:27 - 50:28
    What idols did you put away,
  • 50:28 - 50:30
    that now, you're just
    kind of comfortably
  • 50:30 - 50:32
    crawling in there with?
  • 50:32 - 50:35
    What are the things in your life
    that are eating up your time?
  • 50:35 - 50:37
    What are your excuses for not
  • 50:37 - 50:40
    spending the time that you
    ought to be spending?
  • 50:40 - 50:43
    You cannot just pray these little,
  • 50:43 - 50:45
    flippant prayers and read Psalm 117
  • 50:45 - 50:47
    and think, yeah, we're going to find
  • 50:47 - 50:48
    the fire that way.
  • 50:48 - 50:49
    We're going to do our little thing.
  • 50:49 - 50:51
    And then we're just going to
    get on with our life.
  • 50:51 - 50:52
    We're going to tag it on there.
  • 50:52 - 50:54
    It's going to be this nice little thing.
  • 50:54 - 50:56
    Somehow, it's all going
    to work out in the end.
  • 50:56 - 50:58
    Look.
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    I'm not satisfied with that.
  • 50:59 - 51:02
    I don't want to be in a
    church that's dead like that.
  • 51:02 - 51:04
    If our church dies,
    if that happens sometime,
  • 51:04 - 51:05
    I want to go.
  • 51:05 - 51:07
    Or have God kill me.
  • 51:07 - 51:08
    I don't want to be there.
  • 51:08 - 51:10
    I don't want to walk through this life
  • 51:10 - 51:12
    useless and burned out.
  • 51:12 - 51:14
    We want to be the bright and shining
  • 51:14 - 51:17
    and burning lights like John the Baptist.
  • 51:17 - 51:20
    I realize problems come.
  • 51:20 - 51:22
    Some of you may have
    fallen out of ranks
  • 51:22 - 51:24
    because life got too hard.
  • 51:24 - 51:26
    Let me tell you about Fuller.
  • 51:26 - 51:28
    He lost 8 of his 11 children,
  • 51:28 - 51:31
    and then his wife.
  • 51:31 - 51:36
    You think that's harder than
    what you've gone through?
  • 51:36 - 51:39
    And he stayed true to the end.
  • 51:39 - 51:41
    In fact, maybe that's what we need.
  • 51:41 - 51:43
    I don't want to call down suffering on us,
  • 51:43 - 51:46
    but maybe that is what we need.
  • 51:46 - 51:48
    Our lives have just been too soft,
  • 51:48 - 51:50
    too cushy.
  • 51:50 - 51:52
    We've had too much.
  • 51:52 - 51:54
    May God bring us whatever we need,
  • 51:54 - 51:57
    whether it's poverty,
    whether it's persecution.
  • 51:57 - 52:00
    Just to light us on fire.
  • 52:00 - 52:04
    Don't. Don't be content
  • 52:04 - 52:07
    to let the missionary fires move away.
  • 52:07 - 52:10
    Yes, let them go to China.
  • 52:10 - 52:12
    But don't let them depart here.
  • 52:12 - 52:13
    And even if good
    brethren come along
  • 52:13 - 52:15
    and say to you, I think it's all over.
  • 52:15 - 52:17
    I think we're done in this country.
  • 52:17 - 52:18
    Don't buy it.
  • 52:18 - 52:20
    Don't accept it.
  • 52:20 - 52:21
    If you're ok with that,
  • 52:21 - 52:23
    well then go into your monastery,
  • 52:23 - 52:24
    lay down in your nice, sterile
  • 52:24 - 52:26
    reformed environment,
  • 52:26 - 52:28
    and just let the world
    go on its way to hell.
  • 52:28 - 52:29
    But you're not going to be the
  • 52:29 - 52:32
    people that will be used.
  • 52:32 - 52:34
    It's going to be the ones that burn
  • 52:34 - 52:36
    with Christlikeness;
  • 52:36 - 52:38
    that take it off the altar of God
  • 52:38 - 52:41
    and go forth in obedience
  • 52:41 - 52:43
    to what we've been told to do.
  • 52:43 - 52:45
    We've got a responsibility.
  • 52:45 - 52:46
    If you're not going in the mine,
  • 52:46 - 52:49
    you've got a responsibility to hold it.
  • 52:49 - 52:50
    That commission is to the church.
  • 52:50 - 52:52
    It's to us.
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    And it's to the end of this age.
  • 52:56 - 52:58
    We cannot go to sleep.
  • 52:58 - 53:02
    We cannot slumber.
  • 53:02 - 53:07
    Brethren, God forbid
  • 53:07 - 53:10
    that we drop the baton.
  • 53:10 - 53:12
    Spurgeon's dead.
  • 53:12 - 53:14
    Carey's dead.
  • 53:14 - 53:19
    Sutcliffe, Fuller, Pierce, Ryland.
  • 53:19 - 53:21
    Folks, they're gone.
  • 53:21 - 53:23
    This is our day.
  • 53:23 - 53:28
    This is our generation.
  • 53:28 - 53:30
    May God help us to be faithful.
  • 53:30 - 53:30
    Amen.
Title:
From Weeping to Whipping (Part 2) - Tim Conway
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