How I climb trees to save forests | Meg Lowman | TEDxNCSSM
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0:10 - 0:11Thank you so much.
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0:11 - 0:14So raise your hand
if you've ever climbed a tree. -
0:14 - 0:15Oh! Oh my gosh.
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0:15 - 0:18See, everyone's still a kid
in this audience. -
0:18 - 0:20Anyway, that's great news.
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0:21 - 0:24Scientists who study outer space
are actually called astronomers, -
0:24 - 0:27and if some of you who climb trees,
like I did as a kid, -
0:27 - 0:30became a forest biologist
studying the treetops, -
0:30 - 0:32you would be called an arbornaut,
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0:32 - 0:36so technically, I'm actually
the world's first arbornaut. -
0:36 - 0:37I'm pretty old also,
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0:37 - 0:41and by some quirk of fate,
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0:41 - 0:45I took my little childhood love
and turned it into a profession. -
0:45 - 0:47So, probably, I really still am a kid.
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0:47 - 0:50I want to share three take-home messages.
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0:50 - 0:51I'll give you those first
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0:51 - 0:54in case you want to sleep
for the rest of the talk. -
0:54 - 0:56I'd like to talk a little bit
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0:56 - 0:59about how important it's been to me
to follow my passion, -
0:59 - 1:01and for all of you students,
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1:01 - 1:05I think if you can really
and truly pursue what you love, -
1:05 - 1:08it might lead to a more rewarding life.
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1:08 - 1:09I'd like to explain a little bit
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1:09 - 1:12about how I think, for me,
a turning point in my career -
1:12 - 1:17was thinking outside of the box
and developing some really new ideas, -
1:17 - 1:21and, obviously, turning points
that occur throughout my research -
1:21 - 1:25are seeking solutions to global problems.
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1:25 - 1:28So this passion thing was kind of crazy,
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1:28 - 1:31but this is my briefcase
that I take to work: -
1:31 - 1:33a rope, a harness.
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1:33 - 1:36This is my work clothing
that I wore to give this talk today. -
1:37 - 1:41So, in a sense, it means that my career
is kind of nonconventional. -
1:41 - 1:44As my kid said, "It's really weird, Mom."
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1:44 - 1:46But anyway, over the years,
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1:46 - 1:50I look back and realize that I was
actually one of these very nerdy kids, -
1:50 - 1:52as they called it in my day.
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1:52 - 1:54I didn't go to a wonderful
school like this. -
1:54 - 1:57In fact, my school was very rough.
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1:57 - 2:01It was a very embarrassing thing
to get an A in a science class -
2:01 - 2:03because that was not cool,
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2:03 - 2:05and this was even more embarrassing:
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2:05 - 2:08to win second prize
in the New York State Science Fair -
2:08 - 2:15with 499 boys who all had volcano
experiments bursting out of their trays. -
2:15 - 2:16I was so shy;
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2:16 - 2:20I didn't even dare say thank you
when I got this little plastic statue. -
2:20 - 2:21But there I am
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2:21 - 2:24with my wildflower collection
that I had put in telephone books. -
2:24 - 2:27They used to be paper,
these telephone book things, -
2:27 - 2:31and they made a great way
to have a mini collection of dried plants -
2:31 - 2:34if you're a kid in very rural
upstate New York. -
2:35 - 2:38The turning point for me,
when I guess I recognized my passion, -
2:38 - 2:40was about age five,
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2:40 - 2:43which is equally nerdy, I think.
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2:43 - 2:46I made these little tree forts
with my best friend, Betsy. -
2:46 - 2:48We used to escape in the backyard,
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2:48 - 2:53and we would rescue baby birds
if they fell out of the nest. -
2:53 - 2:54Even more embarrassing,
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2:54 - 2:57we would follow the local lawn mowers,
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2:57 - 3:01and when the dads were mowing their lawns
and the earthworms got cut in half, -
3:01 - 3:04we rescued them and
band-aided them back together -
3:04 - 3:08and put them in our tree fort
in little cardboard boxes - our hospital. -
3:08 - 3:10Of course, none of them survived.
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3:10 - 3:13But I think the turning point for me was -
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3:13 - 3:16in this small town,
where there wasn't much to do, -
3:16 - 3:19and there was a toxic-waste dump
and a big prison reformatory, -
3:19 - 3:24not a lot of attributes
for a budding young student - -
3:24 - 3:27I had this love of trees
and this love of forest. -
3:27 - 3:31The neat thing is my best friend, Betsy,
went into the health profession. -
3:31 - 3:34She loved trying to fix these animals;
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3:34 - 3:36I loved the trees.
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3:36 - 3:38Maybe the real fun part of this story is
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3:38 - 3:42her brother was even nerdier than I was:
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3:42 - 3:44he loved sewing.
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3:44 - 3:47And you can imagine, as a young boy
that was not the cool thing -
3:47 - 3:50in our very small, hokey town.
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3:50 - 3:52His name was Tommy Hilfiger,
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3:52 - 3:54and he was so weird
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3:54 - 3:58that we never could get him
to come outside and play with us -
3:58 - 4:00because he was always
stealing his mom's sewing machine -
4:00 - 4:02when she was at work.
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4:02 - 4:03But as I look back on this,
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4:03 - 4:04and we all marvel -
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4:04 - 4:08there we are at a fundraiser
for pancreatic cancer last year. -
4:08 - 4:10I think, you know what?
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4:10 - 4:11We all followed our passion,
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4:11 - 4:13and Betsy became a nurse,
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4:13 - 4:15and Tommy became a clothing designer,
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4:15 - 4:18and I became the nerdy forest biologist.
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4:18 - 4:21But do look at the person
sitting next to you, right now, -
4:21 - 4:23especially if you're a student,
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4:23 - 4:25because you might secretly think
they are quite weird, -
4:25 - 4:27but they could become a billionaire.
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4:27 - 4:31They could follow their passion
and have this amazing career, -
4:31 - 4:33and if you're lucky, like me,
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4:33 - 4:36they might even help fund
your research once in a while. -
4:36 - 4:37I'm still waiting
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4:37 - 4:40for the khaki clothing line
for Tommy to design, -
4:40 - 4:41but in any case,
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4:41 - 4:47it's just really amazing to me to think
that at our little ages of five and six, -
4:47 - 4:52we had already kind of been imprinted
about what we really love in life. -
4:52 - 4:56So that led me to this amazing career
that wasn't preordained, -
4:56 - 5:00and I can't say that I was strategic
or incredibly brilliant, -
5:00 - 5:02but I just happened to be in a place
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5:02 - 5:07where I asked some questions
about how long leaves lived on trees, -
5:07 - 5:08and lo and behold,
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5:08 - 5:12was the first person to rig a tree
with a rope and climb up it, -
5:12 - 5:14and when I got to the top -
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5:14 - 5:16this was 1979 in Australia -
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5:16 - 5:19oh my gosh, millions of things
were up there. -
5:19 - 5:22They were eating each other;
they were chewing the leaves. -
5:22 - 5:25It was like this huge hotspot
for biodiversity, -
5:25 - 5:27and I was very privileged,
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5:27 - 5:28and also scared,
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5:28 - 5:32to be the first person to see
this extraordinary amount of diversity. -
5:32 - 5:34For the last 200 years,
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5:34 - 5:38foresters had only mostly looked
at the forest floor -
5:38 - 5:41or cut a tree down
to figure out what was at the top. -
5:41 - 5:45But everything, of course, flies away
when you cut the tree down. -
5:46 - 5:49Lo and behold, here's the one
I'm going to be studying this summer. -
5:49 - 5:50Does anybody know what it is?
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5:51 - 5:53Yeah, tardigrade water bear,
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5:53 - 5:55the most extreme organism on the planet.
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5:55 - 5:59This is the last, maybe next to last
one that we've never really studied, -
5:59 - 6:02but there are probably
millions in the canopy, -
6:02 - 6:04and I'm hoping to find that out.
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6:04 - 6:06Is anybody a vegetarian?
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6:06 - 6:08Oop. Sorry. You're really not.
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6:08 - 6:11Hundreds of these live
on every piece of lettuce that you eat, -
6:11 - 6:14and it's protein, so love it.
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6:14 - 6:15(Laughter)
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6:15 - 6:16And we're studying that too,
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6:16 - 6:20because maybe it's an important piece
of nutrition in your diet. -
6:20 - 6:22So, with this passion
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6:22 - 6:26for studying these weird and wonderful
creatures in forest canopies, -
6:26 - 6:30my second kind of take-home message
that I always tell my students -
6:30 - 6:33is for me, in this really strange career
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6:33 - 6:39where nobody else had done something
that was so local and backyardy in a way, -
6:39 - 6:42it forced myself
and a few of my colleagues -
6:42 - 6:44to say, "Holy cow!
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6:44 - 6:47There's a whole world up there,
100 or 200 feet above us. -
6:47 - 6:50How are we going to study it?
and is it important? -
6:50 - 6:52and what does this mean
to the health of the planet?" -
6:52 - 6:55So, through at least half of my career,
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6:55 - 6:59I've been devoting a lot of my time
to designing methods, -
6:59 - 7:01and this surprised me as a scientist.
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7:01 - 7:04I didn't expect to be
kind of a pseudo-engineer, -
7:04 - 7:09but over the last 30 years
of the history of canopy research -
7:09 - 7:11we've designed inflatables,
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7:11 - 7:14like this very cool raft,
to go over the top, -
7:14 - 7:16the uppermost part of the canopy.
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7:16 - 7:18We've designed hot-air balloons
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7:18 - 7:21and of course, the first
and foremost design -
7:21 - 7:24were those fantastic ropes and harnesses
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7:24 - 7:26that even a poor
graduate student can afford. -
7:26 - 7:31So over time, it's these little tools
that we developed -
7:31 - 7:36that helped us answer the questions
that we were asking -
7:36 - 7:38in different forests
in different parts of the world. -
7:38 - 7:40And because that forest canopy
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7:40 - 7:44is the interface, actually,
between the air and the earth, -
7:44 - 7:49it has now become an increasingly
important area for study -
7:49 - 7:53because of issues like climate change
and extreme storms -
7:53 - 7:56and other important global phenomena.
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7:56 - 7:59So, here's our raft
that allows us to live in the canopy. -
7:59 - 8:02My dream come true - ultimate tree-house.
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8:02 - 8:05And here are the ropes and harnesses
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8:05 - 8:08that we can use to climb
almost any tree in the world -
8:08 - 8:12that has a branch that's safe enough
to hold your weight. -
8:12 - 8:16Here is something that I designed
in Australia, initially, -
8:16 - 8:20because with a rope, you can only climb
one person at a time - -
8:20 - 8:22it's a little lonely up there.
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8:22 - 8:24With a canopy walkway,
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8:24 - 8:26you can actually take
a whole group of students. -
8:26 - 8:28You can stay overnight,
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8:28 - 8:29you can work in the rain
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8:29 - 8:33and do things that you can't do
with a rope or a hot-air balloon. -
8:33 - 8:38So suddenly, we've amassed
this kind of briefcase, or tool kit, -
8:38 - 8:40of interesting techniques
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8:40 - 8:45that young and old
and even mobility-limited students, -
8:45 - 8:48whom I'm working with this summer
on those water bears, -
8:48 - 8:50can get access to the treetops.
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8:50 - 8:54Anyone is welcome
and everyone really is welcome -
8:54 - 8:57because we still don't have
very much research going on -
8:57 - 8:59as we need to in these habitats.
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8:59 - 9:02If you have a million dollars
in your budget, -
9:02 - 9:06our kind of Cadillac tool
is the canopy construction crane. -
9:06 - 9:08You probably wonder
what happens in the states -
9:08 - 9:11when those things
get rusty and broken down. -
9:11 - 9:13Well, they give them
to tropical biologists, -
9:13 - 9:15and we take them to the rain forest,
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9:15 - 9:18and they offer unprecedented
access to leaves -
9:18 - 9:22within a certain hectare
of the arm of the crane. -
9:22 - 9:26So now we have some passion,
and we have a toolkit, -
9:26 - 9:28and so the important thing with forest
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9:28 - 9:31has suddenly become very different
from what astronomers are doing. -
9:31 - 9:34You know, outer space
is growing and expanding. -
9:35 - 9:36Forests have disappeared.
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9:36 - 9:40Probably 50% of forests
have disappeared in my lifetime alone, -
9:40 - 9:43and this means that I
really can't afford to sleep, -
9:43 - 9:48and I'm hoping to recruit some of you
to be future canopy scientists. -
9:48 - 9:53So, the opportunity and the challenge
to make really quick solutions -
9:53 - 9:56is something that keeps me awake at night,
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9:56 - 9:58so I thought I'd run
through a few of those -
9:58 - 10:00to give you a little mini field trip
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10:00 - 10:03into the tropics in some
of our challenging forests of the world -
10:03 - 10:05to see what's going on.
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10:06 - 10:09Australia in the mid-'80s
was an amazing place -
10:09 - 10:14because they had already cut down
95% of their tropical rain forests. -
10:14 - 10:16They had dry forests called eucalyptus,
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10:16 - 10:20and all of a sudden,
all millions of trees died -
10:20 - 10:23within the period
of a two-year span of time. -
10:23 - 10:25I happened to be there
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10:25 - 10:28doing my research
in rain forest at that time -
10:28 - 10:31and essentially got a green card
from the government -
10:31 - 10:34as the only qualified
tree climber in the country -
10:34 - 10:36to stay and tackle this problem.
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10:36 - 10:42The amazing thing is we were able
to identify, through canopy tools, -
10:42 - 10:46that one insect had gone
entirely out of whack -
10:46 - 10:49and was attacking all of the trees
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10:49 - 10:52because of the human impact
on the landscapes. -
10:52 - 10:56Farmers had cut down enough trees
and reduced the bird populations -
10:56 - 10:59and added fertilizer to the soils
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10:59 - 11:04and done everything that really enhanced
the survival of this insect pest. -
11:04 - 11:08The solution is equally important
to finding out the problem, -
11:08 - 11:09and in this case,
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11:09 - 11:12it was a simple matter
of getting native seeds. -
11:12 - 11:18Every valley has a different eucalyptus
in Australia - some 555 species. -
11:18 - 11:21So we had to find local groups -
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11:21 - 11:23kids, adults, farmers -
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11:23 - 11:26to plant trees, to grow natives,
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11:26 - 11:28not to grow pines,
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11:28 - 11:31which is what the government
initially tried to hand out, -
11:31 - 11:36and for all of the countries
where I've studied severe forest diebacks, -
11:36 - 11:39the idea of planting the natives
as a restoration technique -
11:39 - 11:43is obviously healthier and better
for the long-term solution -
11:43 - 11:46than bringing in these invasive trees,
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11:46 - 11:50like eucalyptus
or, in Australia's case, pines. -
11:51 - 11:52On a personal note,
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11:52 - 11:55we all have to make solutions
to our own lives. -
11:55 - 11:59My personal issue as a scientist
was that I was a single mom. -
11:59 - 12:01I had two young boys,
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12:01 - 12:03and I had this challenge
of keeping my job, -
12:03 - 12:06and my job took me
to a lot of remote places. -
12:06 - 12:11I thought I'd include this
as one of my solution kind-of scenarios -
12:11 - 12:13just because I think
a lot of you, in any career, -
12:13 - 12:17might face this issue
of juggling family and career. -
12:17 - 12:19And it doesn't matter
if you're male or female; -
12:19 - 12:21it can happen at any point in time.
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12:21 - 12:22But hopefully for you,
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12:22 - 12:25it won't happen this year
if you're in this high school. -
12:25 - 12:27(Laughter)
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12:27 - 12:29Anyway, in this case
for me, my colleagues - -
12:29 - 12:33most of whom were male
and still are, I might add - -
12:33 - 12:34they always would tease me and say,
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12:34 - 12:36"Will you leave your babies
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12:36 - 12:38at the bottom of the tree
with the poisonous snakes -
12:38 - 12:40or will take them in the canopy?"
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12:40 - 12:42So here they are at age four and five,
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12:42 - 12:44getting their little harnesses from mom
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12:44 - 12:46and joining me in my research.
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12:46 - 12:47And in a funny way,
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12:47 - 12:52that actually helped me, I think,
answer questions better, -
12:52 - 12:55think harder about the message
in the solutions -
12:55 - 12:57that I had to take on globally,
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12:57 - 13:01and they were my great research assistants
throughout most of our career. -
13:01 - 13:06So, I feel very grateful that my kids
were a part of my science, -
13:06 - 13:10and hopefully, you might have a career
where that happens for you as well. -
13:10 - 13:11And you can also read my book about it.
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13:11 - 13:14It's really the misadventures
of life in the tree tops, -
13:14 - 13:18trying to work through
these different problems. -
13:18 - 13:19At a global scale,
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13:19 - 13:22I've been very interested
in working in developing countries -
13:22 - 13:24because they have fewer scientists
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13:24 - 13:29and fewer abilities to solve
some of the urgent forestry problems. -
13:29 - 13:31India is particularly critical.
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13:31 - 13:34They have 20% left of native forest,
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13:34 - 13:35and right now,
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13:35 - 13:38one of the really wonderful things
that I've been helping with -
13:38 - 13:43is taking a lot of the women -
that's 51% of the world's population - -
13:43 - 13:48and helping them transfer from being,
in this case in India, -
13:48 - 13:52women who provide the food,
never get educated -
13:52 - 13:55and are basically subservient
in their cultural practices -
13:55 - 14:00and training them to be
my next generation of canopy scientists. -
14:00 - 14:02Here's one of my women-in-training
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14:02 - 14:03in India.
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14:03 - 14:07They are so eager,
enthusiastic and bright. -
14:07 - 14:09I think in many of these countries,
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14:09 - 14:12empowering women in science
is a really important mission -
14:12 - 14:17for those of us fortunate enough
to have an education here in the U.S. -
14:18 - 14:23Similarly, Ethiopia has extreme issues
with forest degradation. -
14:23 - 14:27They now have less
than 5% of their forests left -
14:27 - 14:29in the northern half of the country.
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14:29 - 14:32This is how it looks on Saturday
if you're going shopping in Ethiopia. -
14:32 - 14:36You walk 15 miles without any shade,
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14:36 - 14:37mostly without shoes,
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14:37 - 14:41and you hope you'll find
a freshwater spring, -
14:41 - 14:45but they're almost always located
in forest patches, -
14:45 - 14:48and here, of course,
is the landscape of Ethiopia. -
14:48 - 14:50You can barely see those little green dots
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14:50 - 14:53which are the remaining
forest patches in this country. -
14:53 - 14:56Extremely urgent situation,
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14:56 - 14:59and in this case, fortunately,
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14:59 - 15:04the forest themselves
are under the stewardship of the church. -
15:04 - 15:08So that little round thing
in the middle is the Coptic church, -
15:08 - 15:10and my project there now
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15:10 - 15:13is a partnership
with religion and science - -
15:13 - 15:17an unheard of combination
except in the last few years, -
15:17 - 15:21where we suddenly look at each other
and realize we have the same mission -
15:21 - 15:23of looking after all of God's creatures
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15:23 - 15:27or, in my case, conserving biodiversity.
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15:27 - 15:30So I've had all sorts
of amazing experiences -
15:30 - 15:34educating the Coptic priests
about technology, -
15:34 - 15:36Google Earth images,
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15:36 - 15:41helping them understand the principles
of losing their genetic library -
15:41 - 15:48and also why all the freshwater springs
are in these remaining forest patches. -
15:48 - 15:52The other solution to this problem,
in addition to educating the priests, -
15:52 - 15:56has been educating the next generation
of forest stewards. -
15:56 - 16:00In this country, almost all
of the pollinators of their crop plants -
16:00 - 16:05spend some lifestyle portion
in these forest areas, -
16:05 - 16:09so I've been fortunate to recruit
biologists from around the world -
16:09 - 16:10who will donate their time
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16:10 - 16:14and come in and help me
understand the biodiversity of a country -
16:14 - 16:21where there is no literature on any group
of insects, birds, animals, etcetera. -
16:21 - 16:25It's just a void in the literature
of conservation biology -
16:25 - 16:29simply because it's been
a little rough to work there. -
16:29 - 16:31So in this case, does it matter?
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16:31 - 16:36Well, there's a tree there
that they use to treat prostate cancer. -
16:36 - 16:40There are all sorts of amazing species
that we're still just discovering, -
16:40 - 16:42and so it could be important.
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16:42 - 16:43But perhaps more important
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16:43 - 16:49is that these forest patches
actually contain species, -
16:49 - 16:50contain fresh water
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16:50 - 16:53and contain all sorts of spiritual value
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16:53 - 16:56that really keeps these people
alive and healthy. -
16:56 - 16:59One of the simpler solutions
that we've innovated -
16:59 - 17:01is simply building walls.
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17:01 - 17:04It's a win, win, win -
as we say in conservation. -
17:04 - 17:05Take the stones out of the fields,
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17:05 - 17:07raises the crop yield,
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17:08 - 17:09build the walls,
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17:09 - 17:12keeps the cattle out of the forests
and saves the seedlings, -
17:12 - 17:13creates a social structure
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17:13 - 17:17and pays the people
for their building time. -
17:17 - 17:20And because the kids
don't have libraries or pencils, -
17:20 - 17:22we're now distributing t-shirts,
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17:22 - 17:23in Amharic,
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17:23 - 17:25with all of the insect pollinators
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17:25 - 17:30because they don't own a t-shirt,
and they don't have a place to put a book, -
17:30 - 17:34and so hopefully we're coming up
with these innovative solutions -
17:34 - 17:37about how we can solve their issues.
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17:37 - 17:38In summary,
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17:38 - 17:42all of this is because a little bit
of my American technology, -
17:42 - 17:44a teensy bit of our time and energy
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17:44 - 17:48can absolutely change the lives
of millions of people -
17:48 - 17:49in a country like Ethiopia.
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17:49 - 17:54Using online opportunities
to disseminate this project -
17:54 - 17:57has resulted in extraordinary solutions.
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17:57 - 18:01I just sold the name
of this new beetle for $10,000. -
18:01 - 18:04That was enough to fence
two whole forests in Ethiopia, -
18:04 - 18:07so a lot of amazing things can happen
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18:07 - 18:10just with a tiny bit
of our creative solutions. -
18:11 - 18:12So, in closing,
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18:12 - 18:14we have great opportunities here
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18:14 - 18:17for those of you who are students
at this fabulous school. -
18:17 - 18:20This is your museum
that I am fortunate enough to direct, -
18:20 - 18:21in Raleigh.
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18:21 - 18:25We hope that science
will be a part of everyone's life. -
18:25 - 18:27I hope you will follow your passion.
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18:27 - 18:29I hope you'll have a chance
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18:29 - 18:33to develop tools and solutions
to whatever problem you pick. -
18:33 - 18:37And my closing message is simply
the last two sentences of my book. -
18:37 - 18:40This is really from my heart
as a mom, not as a scientist, -
18:40 - 18:45but this is the most important thing
I've learned from my work, and that is -
18:45 - 18:50that one of the most meaningful insights
I have acquired along my life's journey -
18:50 - 18:53is that it takes the same amount of energy
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18:53 - 18:57to complain as it does to exclaim,
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18:57 - 19:00but the results are incredibly different.
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19:00 - 19:05Learning to exclaim instead of to complain
has been my most valuable lesson. -
19:05 - 19:06Thank you.
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19:06 - 19:07(Applause)
- Title:
- How I climb trees to save forests | Meg Lowman | TEDxNCSSM
- Description:
-
Meg Lowman followed her childhood passion and became an "arbornaut," studying the diversity of life found in the treetop canopy.
Lowman has been called "the real-life Lorax" by National Geographic and "Einstein of the treetops" by the Wall Street Journal for her pioneering work in canopy ecology research. For more than 30 years, she has designed hot-air balloons and walkways for treetop exploration to solve mysteries in the world's forests, particularly insect pests and ecosystem health. Working tirelessly on initiatives at home and abroad, "Canopy Meg" was a Fulbright Senior Specialist Scholar to India and a National Geographic awardee to conserve church forests in Ethiopia. Lowman has authored more than 100 scientific publications and her first book, Life in the Treetops, was reviewed in The New York Times Sunday Book Review.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 19:15
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