Heritage repurposing by building landscapes | Gianluca d'Incà Levis | TEDxMestre
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0:24 - 0:28For about ten years, we have started
this practice in the Dolomites, -
0:28 - 0:33awarded in 2009, as you know,
"World Heritage Site" by UNESCO. -
0:33 - 0:37So in 2009, we established
the value and status of this asset -
0:38 - 0:42for its outstanding universal value,
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0:43 - 0:45for the aesthetic and landscape quality.
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0:47 - 0:48Well, that's what we work on:
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0:48 - 0:52my job is redefiningthe concept
of heritage and landscape. -
0:52 - 0:54The Dolomites are "heritage",
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0:54 - 0:58we have defined
their value with this word, -
0:59 - 1:01but we live in the Dolomites.
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1:01 - 1:03Behind me you can see the images
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1:03 - 1:06of the sites we have been working on
for ten years now. -
1:06 - 1:10They are very important sites
in the history and in the making -
1:10 - 1:13of the identity of territories
and landscapes. -
1:13 - 1:16Landscapes, in a sense,
did not exist before man: -
1:16 - 1:19man must make them,
contribute to their co-generation. -
1:20 - 1:22These factories you see
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1:22 - 1:28are former factories, production plants
or former schools, former alpine colonies. -
1:28 - 1:32All sites introduced
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1:32 - 1:36by this decommissioning particle "ex",
because they are no more. -
1:36 - 1:40They have been trailblazers
of their territory. -
1:40 - 1:41People worked in them,
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1:41 - 1:46income, economy, sociality, culture
were generated in them; -
1:46 - 1:48and then they stopped.
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1:48 - 1:51Now you see them in a third phase:
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1:51 - 1:55the first phase was their making,
by those who conceived them -
1:55 - 1:59within the landscape around them
and along with the flow of history. -
1:59 - 2:01The second phase is the dismissive one,
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2:01 - 2:04the end of their productive
and propulsive life -
2:04 - 2:07within the landscape, for the territory.
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2:07 - 2:11The third phase is this one,
because for ten years, as I told you, -
2:11 - 2:17we have been facing these landscapes'
critical, unsolved issues. -
2:17 - 2:19I mean, these large sites
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2:19 - 2:22who once were of great value
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2:22 - 2:24and then have lost it.
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2:24 - 2:26They have lost their original identity.
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2:27 - 2:30The third phase is the awakening one.
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2:30 - 2:35We need to understand if we are able
to think of another functional use, -
2:35 - 2:38if they can be useful again
to the territory, -
2:38 - 2:41or if they no longer exist
because they are mere vestiges. -
2:42 - 2:46We knew all about them in the past,
much less so in the present; -
2:46 - 2:52we lost the ability to act on them,
so we can no longer imagine their future. -
2:52 - 2:54So what are they?
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2:54 - 3:00Graveyards to contemplate with nostalgia,
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3:00 - 3:05or a living heritage, common goods
with a regenerable potential? -
3:06 - 3:09Well, this was our bet:
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3:09 - 3:12two years after the award,
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3:12 - 3:16we started to investigate
these large collection of sites. -
3:16 - 3:18The Dolomites are certainly a heritage,
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3:18 - 3:21but they are also, in many profiles,
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3:21 - 3:26a heritage of stereotypes,
of clichés, of rather trivial ideas, -
3:26 - 3:29through which one can see a mountain
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3:29 - 3:30that either no longer exists -
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3:30 - 3:33that of our grandfathers
in their knickerbockers, -
3:34 - 3:36or anyway a mountain
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3:36 - 3:40that struggles a lot to look ahead,
to look at new horizons, -
3:40 - 3:42because it is already given.
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3:42 - 3:46But we are saying that landscapes
must either be generated or regenerated: -
3:46 - 3:50they are not given forever,
sometimes they are temporary. -
3:50 - 3:52In the first factories,
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3:52 - 3:55in the first images that you have seen,
that we faced in the first two years, -
3:55 - 3:57this has happened:
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3:57 - 4:01after working for the territory,
they were laying down, -
4:02 - 4:04and then someone has tried to move them:
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4:04 - 4:08public or even private bodies came along,
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4:08 - 4:09and what did they do?
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4:09 - 4:10A restoration.
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4:10 - 4:12And what came next?
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4:12 - 4:15They stood as still as they were
before the restoration. -
4:15 - 4:17What does this mean?
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4:17 - 4:22That the economic resources arrived,
but the real resources did not arrive! -
4:22 - 4:24So this heritage was "betrayed"
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4:24 - 4:27because of a lack of resources
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4:27 - 4:30that were being put
in reawakening the good. -
4:30 - 4:32And what was missing? An idea.
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4:32 - 4:37Because if you just restore a good,
with no idea of what to do with it, -
4:38 - 4:42you "betray" it, and do it
a bad - and expensive - service. -
4:42 - 4:46Well, with a cultural project
inspired by a functional logic - -
4:46 - 4:48because the test is also to verify
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4:48 - 4:55whether the culture is a didactic,
exornative apparatus, -
4:55 - 5:00or it can be a real activator
and a concrete driver, -
5:00 - 5:02a part of the codesign
of landscapes and territories, -
5:02 - 5:04we have addressed these sites.
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5:04 - 5:08They were over, yes,
but not "spent" in our opinion: -
5:10 - 5:14there certainly was
a great potential there. -
5:14 - 5:16What is this potential?
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5:16 - 5:18Consider that, as you are seeing,
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5:18 - 5:21they are extraordinary
for their aesthetic values, -
5:23 - 5:25for their context,
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5:26 - 5:28then they are certainly still,
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5:28 - 5:32and maybe the most important thing
is to pick the right ones: -
5:32 - 5:37not all sites are likely
to be regenerated and useful, -
5:37 - 5:42they must have a logistical "consistency",
to use this practical word, -
5:42 - 5:46and then there must be a functional idea
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5:46 - 5:49in the attitude, in the attempt
to regenerate them. -
5:49 - 5:52That means, some sites
are better not to address them, -
5:52 - 5:55you have to "ponder"
their restoration carefully; -
5:55 - 6:00others, if they really have much potential
but are worthless in their current state, -
6:00 - 6:02it is appropriate and necessary
to address them. -
6:02 - 6:07It is a matter of responsibility -
and sustainability, as we'll see. -
6:07 - 6:10Well, the sites we deal with
are just a few, not all of them: -
6:10 - 6:16it is not industrial archaeology,
is a restricted selection but a wide one. -
6:16 - 6:21Since 2011, we have worked
on about 20 sites: -
6:21 - 6:24sites with a certainly great potential,
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6:24 - 6:25but nothing in reality.
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6:25 - 6:28So there is a large measure to fill.
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6:28 - 6:32Because if we all say
that a site is worth 100, -
6:32 - 6:34here we are in Borca di Cadore,
a former ENI village -
6:34 - 6:37that Mr. Enrico Mattei made
in the fifties, -
6:37 - 6:42with architects Edoardo Gellner
and with Carlo Scarpa in one part, -
6:42 - 6:44if we say it's very worthy
but not anything in reality, -
6:44 - 6:48we are doomed to fail
in awakening the potential of this site. -
6:48 - 6:51And whom is its potential for?
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6:51 - 6:52For the legit owner?
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6:53 - 6:56No, all the sites have a legitimate owner,
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6:56 - 6:59public or private,
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6:59 - 7:03but as you are seeing, now you are seeing
the Monte Ricco fort in Pieve di Cadore, -
7:04 - 7:07then you will see the Vajont.
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7:07 - 7:13The sites we choose are so strong,
formidable and exceptional, -
7:13 - 7:18that either they recapitulate themes
that are larger than themselves, -
7:19 - 7:23Or you really have to be blind
not to see their potential. -
7:23 - 7:27So their value, as a heritage asset,
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7:27 - 7:31belongs to us all, not just the body
who owns their walls. -
7:31 - 7:35And that's what we work on:
with a project of responsibility and reuse -
7:35 - 7:40we strive to resume
the cultural heritage value, -
7:40 - 7:43for the benefit of us all!
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7:43 - 7:45What can these sites become again?
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7:45 - 7:46It depends.
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7:46 - 7:50In the first cases, the factories
you saw in the first images, -
7:50 - 7:52they have returned to being factories.
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7:52 - 7:54What have we done?
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7:54 - 7:55We approached them.
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7:55 - 7:56They had failed.
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7:56 - 7:59We built a series of relationships.
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7:59 - 8:01We have almost 500 partners.
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8:01 - 8:02Who are these partners?
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8:02 - 8:05They are territorial
and extra-territorial partners, -
8:05 - 8:11public and private, companies, businesses,
scientific or research partners. -
8:11 - 8:15Basically, there is a great moment
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8:15 - 8:19of activation of territorial
and extra-territorial networks -
8:19 - 8:24and we try to show again
the appeal and potential of the sites. -
8:25 - 8:30It's a bit like having a large basket
of fantastic fruit in the kitchen, -
8:30 - 8:31but the light is off.
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8:32 - 8:37Nobody eats spoiled fruit,
but turning the light on is enough. -
8:37 - 8:42It's not easy to "enlighten" a site
that's been abandoned for years or decades -
8:42 - 8:45where, let's say, the particular society
in that particular context -
8:45 - 8:46has lost hope.
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8:46 - 8:48Everyone would lose it:
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8:48 - 8:51first it worked,
then it didn't work anymore, -
8:51 - 8:54then we restored it
and it still hasn't gone. -
8:54 - 8:56Is it a damn resource sink?
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8:56 - 8:59No, it's an asset to be networked again.
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8:59 - 9:03But how can you create a network,
if you don't turn on the nets? -
9:03 - 9:07We used to talk about dopamine,
remember this morning? -
9:07 - 9:14There is an essay from 1974, I guess,
by neuropsychiatrist Oliver Sacks, -
9:14 - 9:17called "Awakenings", "Risvegli".
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9:17 - 9:20It's about disease, lethargy and cure.
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9:21 - 9:22I am a curator.
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9:22 - 9:28Dolomiti Contemporanee is a project
of landscape, assets curation. -
9:28 - 9:31An injection is needed
of cultural dopamine, -
9:31 - 9:34a neurotransmission is needed.
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9:34 - 9:38Confidence needs to be instilled
in the territories that have lost it, -
9:38 - 9:40to rekindle themselves.
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9:40 - 9:44These sites belong
to the land around them, -
9:44 - 9:48but then they are so important,
you see the Vajont, -
9:48 - 9:52that they far exceed
their geographical location -
9:52 - 9:53within the territory.
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9:53 - 9:56Fact is, they are excluded
from the flow of history. -
9:56 - 10:00Do you know what happened in Vajont
on October 9, 1963? -
10:00 - 10:02Not only 2000 people died,
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10:02 - 10:05all the men of the Earth died a little.
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10:05 - 10:07So that place is there
and it is also not there. -
10:08 - 10:10It belongs to the whole humanity.
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10:10 - 10:12It is an emblematic place,
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10:12 - 10:17it is at the same time a particular place
placed in a point of space-time, -
10:17 - 10:18and a universal place.
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10:18 - 10:20So turning the school back on,
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10:20 - 10:24the old Vajont's elementary school
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10:24 - 10:26and making it a center
for contemporary culture -
10:26 - 10:28of the landscape and the mountain,
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10:28 - 10:32means facing a terribly
decommissioned site - -
10:32 - 10:36Because Vajont is in a sense
the land of the living dead: -
10:36 - 10:38there is a dam there
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10:38 - 10:42that attracts thousands upon thousands
of people every year, -
10:42 - 10:46who tend to see a gravestone,
a wall of tears. -
10:46 - 10:50To face this landscape,
without acknowledging the fact -
10:50 - 10:53that it can coincide
with the landscape of tragedy, -
10:53 - 10:55is a betrayal:
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10:55 - 10:59landscapes are for those living people
who must build them. -
10:59 - 11:05There is a definition of Edoardo Gellner,
who built the former Eni Village, -
11:05 - 11:08namely Enrico Mattei's
social welfare program, -
11:08 - 11:10and many other things.
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11:10 - 11:11Gellner says that
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11:11 - 11:15"the landscape is the sum
of natural environment and human action. -
11:15 - 11:16Good action, good landscape;
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11:16 - 11:20bad action, bad landscape,
no place for man". -
11:21 - 11:26So the Vajont can't be a forgotten,
backward-looking landscape, -
11:26 - 11:29hostage to a tragedy that once was
and is no longer there, -
11:29 - 11:33or paralyzed in memory,
which can also act as a pathogen, -
11:33 - 11:36because it does not allow,
if you don't elaborate upon it, -
11:36 - 11:41to conceive another landscape,
projected in the future. -
11:41 - 11:45In Vajont they're in need
of a projective situation, -
11:45 - 11:48so if you come and see
what the new space of Casso is, -
11:48 - 11:54it is a cultural device
that opposes the predatory hegemony -
11:54 - 11:58of a tragedy that cannot be
the identity of those living today. -
11:59 - 12:02There is no forgetting,
there is no absence of memory. -
12:02 - 12:07There is a vision that wants to return
these sites back to the men, -
12:07 - 12:10to those who made and then lost them.
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12:10 - 12:12Well, all this gets done
the way I'm telling you: -
12:12 - 12:15in each site you make a residence,
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12:15 - 12:19artists come, even architects,
designers, landscape specialists, -
12:19 - 12:23economists of culture,
scientists, philosophers. -
12:23 - 12:24Marc Augé himself came,
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12:24 - 12:27we brought him to the Vajont,
as well as in Borca di Cadore -
12:27 - 12:31to reflect on these places, not no-places!
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12:31 - 12:35But are we able or not
to effectively project them in the present -
12:36 - 12:40We are, I think, at a time
when we can't charm an audience, -
12:40 - 12:43but to convince the territory
that stuff belongs to them, -
12:43 - 12:45that it can be useful again.
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12:45 - 12:47In Vajont you have to live:
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12:47 - 12:51the former Eni village of Borca di Cadore
can be used for many things, -
12:51 - 12:52not for itself.
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12:52 - 12:54They are not enough for themselves,
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12:54 - 12:57it does not matter how beautiful
or important they were. -
12:57 - 12:58They are not enough.
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12:58 - 13:00A bold man action is needed,
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13:00 - 13:04Action is deliberate:
no one has forced us to do it. -
13:04 - 13:08I work with about 30
young people from the territory -
13:08 - 13:11who want to do something
for the territory, -
13:11 - 13:14and then we deal with the sites
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13:14 - 13:19through the strategies of the networks
we activate the territory, -
13:19 - 13:21of which we are the reactor, let's say.
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13:21 - 13:24Let's have the territory regain confidence
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13:24 - 13:26in a relaunching venture.
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13:26 - 13:30That's why we have 500 partners,
both indigenous and coming from afar. -
13:30 - 13:36There are many international, national,
many local, large and small, -
13:36 - 13:39All of them are essential,
because we have no money. -
13:39 - 13:41Do you remember before?
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13:41 - 13:43Money had come without ideas.
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13:43 - 13:45It wasn't heritage, it wasn't resource.
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13:45 - 13:49Then we arrive without the money
but with a wealth of ideas, -
13:49 - 13:50and the sites start again.
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13:50 - 13:53The first sites are already restarting;
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13:53 - 13:55commercial, productive activities
have also joined, -
13:55 - 14:00because they rediscovered
the intelligent logistics of those sites, -
14:00 - 14:02they were not dead at all.
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14:02 - 14:06Some sites count more than others
because they "weigh" more, -
14:06 - 14:12physically, historically,
aesthetically speaking and so on, -
14:12 - 14:15as the former village Eni,
where we will return shortly. -
14:15 - 14:19More structural platforms
are activated there, much like in Vajont. -
14:19 - 14:22You don't just go
and start a business in Vajont, -
14:22 - 14:26We had to live in Vajont for two years
and get understood by the residents: -
14:26 - 14:30we could have been the last fools,
or jackals, but we weren't. -
14:30 - 14:33For what I said before
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14:33 - 14:37we reason in a logic of public,
not private functionality. -
14:37 - 14:41There is no selfishness
by the curators or artists' side: -
14:41 - 14:44everyone contributes and bring a piece
of the relaunch program, -
14:44 - 14:47and this does not betray the art,
that is always itself. -
14:47 - 14:51Except, the artist is intelligent,
sensitive, ingenious, -
14:51 - 14:54one may say enzymatic,
as it triggers processes, -
14:54 - 14:57he is not satisfied
with definitions or judgments, -
14:57 - 15:02so the site is not dead for him:
they help regenerate it. -
15:02 - 15:05Sites become workplaces
of artistic and cultural production -
15:05 - 15:07where networks are triggered,
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15:07 - 15:10also because we bring a lot
of diverse people together. -
15:10 - 15:12There are scientists of the forest.
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15:13 - 15:15Do you know what Vaia storm is?
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15:15 - 15:20October 2018, 14,000,000 trees
torn down by the wind. -
15:20 - 15:22If you come to these sites,
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15:22 - 15:25particularly in Casso
and at Monte Ricco fort, -
15:25 - 15:28you will find group exhibitions
of contemporary art -
15:28 - 15:31with 30 artists working on themes of Vaia,
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15:31 - 15:37together with climate scientists,
forest scientist, biologists, chemists. -
15:37 - 15:43So art does not make a little somersault,
it is not a mere exornative apparatus; -
15:43 - 15:46it is part of the mechanism
of the regeneration strategy. -
15:46 - 15:48Sites then restart
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15:48 - 15:50and we also put them
in the available platforms. -
15:50 - 15:53Back to Borca, you know
that for some time now -
15:53 - 15:58we won the contest
for 2026 Olympics, Milan-Cortina. -
15:58 - 16:00It is said, they have to be sustainable.
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16:00 - 16:05And they can only be sustainable
if you don't build new architecture, -
16:05 - 16:10and responsibly detect
what's already available. -
16:10 - 16:13Borca Eni village
is 100,000 square meters wide; -
16:13 - 16:16that were built very well,
as Mattei and Gellner were behind it. -
16:16 - 16:20There were no budget limits
but above all ingenuity limits. -
16:20 - 16:22That is a space
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16:22 - 16:25where serious considerations
should be spent on. -
16:25 - 16:26Shall we take it back?
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16:26 - 16:28It's done so well, it's not a ruin.
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16:29 - 16:30It's near Cortina,
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16:30 - 16:34it's not an antagonistic logic,
either Borca or Cortina. -
16:34 - 16:38The Olympics, after all,
are not the 2026 ski races, -
16:38 - 16:41they are a chance for development
in the territory, here to there. -
16:42 - 16:44And so it is still necessary
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16:44 - 16:48to take this assets,
and rediscover, revive it. -
16:48 - 16:52And also, if we speak about sustainability
and low land consumption, -
16:52 - 16:56see what's there
before doing something new. -
16:56 - 16:57It's that easy.
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16:57 - 16:59Mr Mattei said one thing,
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16:59 - 17:02"The ingenuity shared
by scientists and artists -
17:02 - 17:05is the ability to see things
where others fail to". -
17:07 - 17:11You have to be blind not to see
the potential of these sites, I think. -
17:11 - 17:12So it's not enough to see them,
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17:12 - 17:15and actuallty Mattei
didn't just see, he did a lot. -
17:15 - 17:20If these sites are really worth
a lot in potential as we say, -
17:20 - 17:22they must be seen
and then they must be done. -
17:22 - 17:25We have to build
the landscapes of the present, -
17:25 - 17:27that's the contemporary gaze:
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17:27 - 17:30as I told you, it's not nostalgic,
it's not retroverted. -
17:30 - 17:33It tries to project forward
its own potential, -
17:33 - 17:37aware of its past, but forward.
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17:38 - 17:39That's something one must consider,
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17:39 - 17:42we must understand if we are actually able
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17:42 - 17:44to awaken this heritage
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17:44 - 17:46or it's enough for us to say
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17:46 - 17:48that the Dolomites
are World Heritage Sites, -
17:48 - 17:51without entering the territory
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17:51 - 17:54to see what we can really do
with the tools at hand - -
17:54 - 17:57culture, sensitivity and intelligence,
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17:57 - 17:59to restart these sites
for the benefit of us all. -
18:01 - 18:05(Applause)
- Title:
- Heritage repurposing by building landscapes | Gianluca d'Incà Levis | TEDxMestre
- Description:
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Highly emblematic sites now abandoned lie inert in the Landscape, waiting for man to address their reawakening, regenerate their great latent potential, and "network" them again. Without a men's responsible commitment, in fact, no resource can ever be taken up and relaunched: heritage is not enough for itself.
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