We are all diverse | Reinaldo Bulgarelli | TEDxLaçador
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0:10 - 0:11How nice, isn't it?
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0:11 - 0:14We've laughed, cried,
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0:14 - 0:16got angry,
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0:16 - 0:19said things, it's awesome.
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0:19 - 0:22The only thing that can't be,
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0:22 - 0:24the only thing at all
is indifference, right? -
0:24 - 0:27Everything except indifference.
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0:27 - 0:32You, beautiful people here, have come
because you're not indifferent. -
0:32 - 0:35Whoever is watching
isn't indifferent, right? -
0:35 - 0:37Indifference towards people,
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0:37 - 0:41indifference
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0:41 - 0:45towards perspectives, expectations,
views, demands, right? -
0:45 - 0:50It's sad to see the indifference
and what it does. -
0:50 - 0:53I'd like to reflect a bit on this theme,
of course, I'm very fond of it, -
0:53 - 0:57I've been working for 41 years
with these issues, -
0:57 - 0:5921 of them in the business environment,
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0:59 - 1:02but 41 years addressing these issues;
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1:02 - 1:08I'd like to share with you one aspect
of the subject of diversity and inclusion, -
1:08 - 1:12which is the way we transform
our characteristics -
1:12 - 1:16in reasons for privilege,
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1:16 - 1:20for bragging,
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1:20 - 1:24the way we also transform
these caracteristics -
1:24 - 1:26in justifications for violence,
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1:26 - 1:30justifications for inequality,
disadvantages, and so forth. -
1:31 - 1:34We transform characteristics
in reasons for privileges, -
1:34 - 1:36and here we've talked a lot about this,
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1:36 - 1:39and I as a white man need to say this,
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1:39 - 1:41I wasn't the one
who created the expression, -
1:41 - 1:44but a white journalist like me
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1:44 - 1:47told me that I have to know that,
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1:47 - 1:50with the color of my skin, the way I am,
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1:50 - 1:52it is as if I had a passport
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1:52 - 1:55to places all the way to the end.
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1:55 - 2:00Even to go through a police blitz
without being shot 200 bullets -
2:02 - 2:03I've got to -
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2:03 - 2:05(Applause)
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2:08 - 2:11I've got to have a clear notion
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2:11 - 2:16that privilege is when you benefit
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2:16 - 2:19from others' inequalities.
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2:21 - 2:22So, this is privilege.
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2:22 - 2:25It's not to work, everybody does it,
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2:25 - 2:28it's not to say,
"Wow, I've worked so hard." -
2:28 - 2:33It is to have characteristics
that enable one to have a passport. -
2:33 - 2:36It's to make us think.
To make us reflect, right? -
2:36 - 2:41We, men, have 90%
of all leadership positions, -
2:41 - 2:43of executive positions within companies.
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2:43 - 2:47To be precise, 87%.
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2:47 - 2:49Eighty seven percent.
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2:49 - 2:51But there are people who, upon hearing
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2:51 - 2:53all these conversations here,
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2:53 - 2:57all the stories we've heard,
the views, the expressions, -
2:57 - 3:00still think, "Wow, now it's all for them?"
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3:00 - 3:03Imagine, 90%.
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3:03 - 3:08Considering the racial issue,
there are just 5.7% black executives. -
3:08 - 3:11Considering the executive position
as a place where some people -
3:11 - 3:16want to get to and can
and should get there, you see? -
3:16 - 3:17Five point seven.
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3:17 - 3:20I haven't said anything about black women
in executive positions, -
3:20 - 3:24in the 500 biggest companies, have I?
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3:24 - 3:27In the 500 biggest and fanciest companies,
the most powerful ones, -
3:27 - 3:32black women account for 0.4%
in executive postions. -
3:33 - 3:37So, hearing all the stories we listen to,
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3:37 - 3:38this black affirmative,
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3:38 - 3:43this need to have as many blacks
as whites in these environments -
3:43 - 3:47in all these situations, just see
how far we are from it, aren't we? -
3:47 - 3:50We create difficulties,
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3:50 - 3:55transform characteristics in grounds
for violence, for more problems, -
3:55 - 3:56and this brings people a lot of trouble
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3:56 - 4:00and brings us a lot of trouble, right?
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4:00 - 4:05I like to tell my story,
in the midst of all these issues, -
4:05 - 4:08with all the characteristics,
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4:08 - 4:11but, if we have problems
with characteristics, -
4:11 - 4:14it's not going to end up well, you see?
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4:14 - 4:17I'll start using a technical term:
identity markers; -
4:17 - 4:21it's one of the ways to say
"these group characteristics we have." -
4:21 - 4:24We've heard a lot about it
here today, haven't we? -
4:24 - 4:28I think there are two messages
I'd like to highlight here: -
4:28 - 4:31one, raise your flag, raise your hand,
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4:31 - 4:34speak up, say it out loud,
otherwise they'll walk over you, -
4:34 - 4:37and ignore you in the middle of the way;
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4:37 - 4:41otherwise, at the time of planning
the world, some will be forgotten. -
4:41 - 4:45And the idea, as it has been said here:
don't leave anyone behind. -
4:45 - 4:48This is the idea as humanity,
I think it's pretty reasonable, -
4:48 - 4:50it's possible.
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4:50 - 4:51The other idea,
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4:51 - 4:54that is complementary but not exclusive,
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4:54 - 4:56is this: on the other hand,
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4:56 - 5:02don't let anyone reduce you
to your identity markers, -
5:03 - 5:06don't let anyone reduce you
to one of your characteristics. -
5:06 - 5:08And neither you shall reduce yourself.
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5:08 - 5:12We are this, that
and much more, aren't we? -
5:12 - 5:15AD Junior talked about that,
several others brought this idea: -
5:15 - 5:18don't let my characteristics disappear,
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5:18 - 5:24on the other hand, do not reduce me
to one of them, I've got several. -
5:24 - 5:27I'm not just a woman, not just that,
or not just something else. -
5:27 - 5:31This doesn't mean you shouldn't
realize, in our Brazilian society, -
5:31 - 5:38in my opinion and in so many others'
opinion, but sharing with you my view, -
5:38 - 5:39this view of human diversity
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5:39 - 5:44doesn't mean we shouldn't have
the main themes in focus. -
5:44 - 5:48In my history, in my view of the world,
based on what I study -
5:48 - 5:50it all gets worse with the race issue.
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5:50 - 5:56Any issue you come across,
being a woman, being an LGBTI person, -
5:56 - 5:58being a handicapped person,
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5:58 - 6:01any situation, if you add the race issue,
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6:01 - 6:03you have a big problem.
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6:03 - 6:05This shows us, Brazilian society,
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6:05 - 6:08that we'll always have to deal
with this matter, -
6:08 - 6:12learn a way to live together
in our humanity -
6:12 - 6:15to face what is out there
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6:15 - 6:18rather than push it down a carpet
forever, as it has been said; -
6:18 - 6:22invisibility, unsaid histories, right?
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6:22 - 6:24In all such characteristics -
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6:24 - 6:28This isn't a photo of mine, okay,
poor people don't have infant photos. -
6:29 - 6:31It's difficult to have,
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6:31 - 6:36so I found this one in a website
with free photos, right? -
6:36 - 6:38I started school in the 60s,
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6:38 - 6:40when I arrived, on the very first day,
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6:40 - 6:44happy and excited,
afraid, too, but happy -
6:44 - 6:48the teacher seeing me and my friends
discovers I'm left-handed. -
6:48 - 6:51I told this story just the other day,
it's great to remember -
6:51 - 6:54that left-handedness seems
to be a banal thing -
6:54 - 6:59but so is the banality of violence
against our characteristics. -
6:59 - 7:03The teacher said, finding out about
my left-handedness, "Oh this is indecent!" -
7:03 - 7:05She sat me in front
of everyone in the room. -
7:05 - 7:08"This is indecent, it's imoral!
Here this can't be, it's wrong!" -
7:08 - 7:13She didn't even know I was gay.
God knows what she would have said - -
7:13 - 7:14(Laughter)
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7:14 - 7:15had she known it.
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7:15 - 7:19My mother solved the matter,
but it's an example we can say, -
7:19 - 7:24"Gee, sometimes people say
horrible things about us, -
7:24 - 7:26and we might believe them."
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7:26 - 7:29In my case, it didn't last long
because my mother solved it. -
7:29 - 7:31She went to school
and scolded the teacher badly, -
7:31 - 7:33"Let the boy be what he wants to be!"
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7:33 - 7:35I loved the idea...
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7:35 - 7:36(Laughter)
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7:37 - 7:42Often, though, twisted ideas can live
in our heads for a long time, -
7:42 - 7:45and we've seen people here today
talking about this, -
7:45 - 7:49about how we reinvent ourselves,
how we detox, I don't know; -
7:49 - 7:54all the expressions we can use
to think in these wrong ideas, right? -
7:55 - 8:01How the idea of what is good and bad,
right and wrong, normal and abnormal, -
8:01 - 8:06beautiful, ugly, reliable, safe,
interesting, and so on, -
8:06 - 8:09how did it all go live in our heads?
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8:09 - 8:14One of the reflections to make
is about transforming characteristics -
8:14 - 8:19into reasons for privilege or violence,
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8:19 - 8:20and it makes us think.
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8:20 - 8:23And, calm down,
let's not throw it all away. -
8:23 - 8:27"Is that so, I've been taught
this is nice, that isn't, I don't know." -
8:27 - 8:30No, the idea is: just figure the origin.
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8:30 - 8:32Where did it come from?
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8:32 - 8:34There are many things
you won't manage to discover. -
8:34 - 8:37Even so, get a hold of it.
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8:37 - 8:39That's what is called the unconcious bias
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8:39 - 8:42or the prejudice based on stereotypes
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8:42 - 8:45and discrimination practices.
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8:45 - 8:47Get a hold of it.
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8:47 - 8:49I have, as a criterium -
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8:49 - 8:52again, sharing with you.
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8:52 - 8:54It's my criterium to think,
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8:54 - 8:58does this help me
in my relation with myself? -
8:58 - 9:02This concept of right, wrong,
nice, beautiful, whatever, -
9:02 - 9:05these values, these issues,
these views of the world, -
9:05 - 9:08do they help me
in my relation with myself? -
9:08 - 9:09What about with other people?
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9:09 - 9:14What about for people to live
together and better and in peace? -
9:14 - 9:18It's a criterium, it's a way
to get rid of some things -
9:18 - 9:21or review these things, or a way
of reinventing oneself or to detox -
9:21 - 9:25or to find all the medicines
we can find, right - -
9:25 - 9:29to bridge with Maria Vitória's talk,
beautiful wonderful her, isn't she? -
9:29 - 9:31What a nice history,
coming from someone so young. -
9:31 - 9:34I might not be in the right age
to see all that she can do, -
9:34 - 9:36where she can get to.
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9:36 - 9:38But she's fantastic.
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9:38 - 9:41It's obvious she will get somewhere nice.
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9:41 - 9:44If we take these issues
and think about them, -
9:44 - 9:47about how they went to live inside us,
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9:47 - 9:49it's one thing.
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9:49 - 9:53About transforming characteristics
in grounds for inequality, -
9:53 - 9:57for violence, for disadvantage,
for vulnerability, for all this, -
9:57 - 10:00and to you this education
for indifference, -
10:00 - 10:03I've also been thinking a lot about it.
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10:03 - 10:05I went back to my origins and discovered,
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10:05 - 10:07wow, I was raised -
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10:07 - 10:12I think you, too, or in other words,
I don't know you but think about it. -
10:12 - 10:16I was raised to not observe much.
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10:16 - 10:19To not pay attention to anything.
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10:19 - 10:22So I also like to tell the history
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10:22 - 10:27of going to my mom's friend's house,
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10:27 - 10:29there was a penguin in the refrigerator,
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10:29 - 10:32in my house, there was no penguin
in the refrigerator. -
10:32 - 10:37When a new and better refrigerator
arrived, it was a big party. -
10:37 - 10:42The damn penguin called my attention,
to me it was new, it was a big deal, -
10:42 - 10:44it was so odd.
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10:44 - 10:47I pointed my finger and said,
"Look, a penguin! -
10:47 - 10:49What's that on top of the refrigerator?",
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10:49 - 10:51that thing over there.
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10:51 - 10:54My mother, very elegant and polite,
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10:54 - 10:56very - she slapped my hand.
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10:56 - 10:58(Laughter)
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10:58 - 11:00The same mother
who saved me that other day, -
11:00 - 11:02this time slapped my hand
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11:02 - 11:06and told me something
that is a marker in our education, -
11:06 - 11:08"Don't take notice."
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11:08 - 11:12Don't take notice. To respect is to not
take notice, not to look, not to comment. -
11:13 - 11:16She slapped my curiosity, my creativity,
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11:16 - 11:19She slapped me, imagine,
a young scientist, -
11:19 - 11:22because that is what we are
when we arrive on the planet. -
11:22 - 11:26Isn't it? Small little people,
looking everywhere, -
11:26 - 11:29we are tiny scientists,
curious about everything. -
11:29 - 11:34She could have said, "Take notice of all,
look around, everything is new for you. -
11:34 - 11:38But pay attention to what you'll do
about the things you're observing." -
11:38 - 11:43Are you going to humble yourself
for a penguin on the neighbor's fridge -
11:43 - 11:49or are you going to say it's tacky,
ridiculous, and judge immediately? -
11:49 - 11:55When you know how to deal
with characteristics, one thing is sure: -
11:55 - 11:57don't go away with that.
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11:57 - 12:02A very nice example, and it has to do
with our colleague here, -
12:02 - 12:04I've lived a situation in a factory -
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12:04 - 12:09I like to tell this one, but there were
many situations, with an armless person. -
12:09 - 12:12She worked at the factory,
the manager came by and said, -
12:12 - 12:14"I like to greet everyone."
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12:14 - 12:17With that armless person,
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12:17 - 12:19who had no arms and no hands,
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12:19 - 12:23different from you,
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12:23 - 12:25and he, the manager, saying:
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12:25 - 12:32"I don't know what to do,
so I slapped her butt the other day, -
12:32 - 12:34as a way of greeting her."
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12:35 - 12:38It turned out to be very bad,
it was horrible how people took it. -
12:38 - 12:39The lady also said,
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12:39 - 12:42"As a matter of fact, it's been six months
I've been working with this manager" - -
12:42 - 12:44you liked the history, I bet, didn't you?
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12:44 - 12:47"It's been six months I've been
working with this manager -
12:47 - 12:49and he doesn't know how to talk to me."
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12:49 - 12:52This Is one of the side effects
of not noticing, -
12:52 - 12:54of not knowing how to deal
with characteristics, -
12:54 - 12:59of being raised to think that we
shouldn't look, shouldn't notice, -
12:59 - 13:02talk, dialogue about our characteristics.
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13:02 - 13:04See that not in any moment -
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13:04 - 13:07I'm trying to avoid the word "difference,"
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13:07 - 13:11because these are characteristics,
and we can change, -
13:11 - 13:14different in relation to whom, to what?
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13:14 - 13:20In this relationship, we're not colorless,
odorless, insipid, stagnant, -
13:20 - 13:22shapeless, lifeless.
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13:22 - 13:27We need to deal with the construction
of equality, as it has been said here, -
13:27 - 13:30with the construction of equity,
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13:30 - 13:32more than equality.
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13:32 - 13:34We need to take into account
people's characteristics -
13:34 - 13:38so the world planning
won't leave anyone behind, -
13:38 - 13:40won't leave anyone aside,
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13:40 - 13:43won't exclude anyone.
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13:44 - 13:46Another experience I've had, to conclude,
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13:46 - 13:51in a company, a group of workers saying,
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13:51 - 13:53"Look, we need to treat everyone equally."
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13:53 - 13:56Then a woman rose and said,
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13:56 - 13:58"I'd like a breastfeeding room,
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13:58 - 14:01I've just come back from maternity leave
and my breast is full, -
14:01 - 14:03I'd like to take my milk home
to feed my baby. -
14:03 - 14:07So, this talk of equality and all,
but I'd like to ask something. -
14:07 - 14:08How many women are here" -
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14:08 - 14:09it was a group of men.
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14:09 - 14:13"How many women are here after just
returning from their maternity leave -
14:13 - 14:16with a full breast who would like
to take their milk home for their baby? -
14:16 - 14:18Do you know where I draw milk?
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14:18 - 14:21In the company's restroom.
In the dirtiest place of the company." -
14:23 - 14:26Do you know what they proposed her?
"Use the outpatient care unit." -
14:26 - 14:29Another place full of sick people,
people with colds, it wouldn't work. -
14:29 - 14:33It was nice to discuss
this issue to realize, -
14:33 - 14:36don't treat equally,
consider the particularities. -
14:36 - 14:40Why not a nice breastfeeding room,
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14:40 - 14:44with a fridge, a chair,
something like that? -
14:44 - 14:47To build a world based
on the vitruvian man, -
14:47 - 14:52to build the world based
on standard patterns is easy. -
14:52 - 14:53The chair on which you sit,
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14:53 - 14:55everything around us;
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14:55 - 14:58we need to consider all of us.
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14:58 - 15:02You all here are listening to me,
what if among you there's one deaf person? -
15:02 - 15:06How are we going to invest
so that we have sign language, -
15:06 - 15:12so as to have audiodescription.
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15:12 - 15:16Because in democracy,
it's important we don't act like that, -
15:16 - 15:21everyone is listening here,
or the majority is, only one person isn't, -
15:21 - 15:23so that person is neglected.
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15:23 - 15:26The idea is, one person matters.
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15:26 - 15:29Each one of us is unique, is special.
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15:29 - 15:33Each one of us is one of the solutions
that life has found -
15:33 - 15:38within the great many
possible compositions. -
15:38 - 15:40One matters.
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15:40 - 15:41One matters.
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15:41 - 15:43Let's keep this idea.
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15:43 - 15:47Let's keep the many invitations
that were given here today. -
15:47 - 15:50Let's keep the idea,
as Paul Valéry has said, -
15:50 - 15:53that the most profound thing
in us is the skin, -
15:53 - 15:56by the way, talking about "skin deep."
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15:56 - 15:59How many invitations were made!
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15:59 - 16:02Think about it, one matters.
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16:02 - 16:04Each one of us matters.
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16:04 - 16:06Thank you very much.
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16:06 - 16:09(Applause) (Cheers)
- Title:
- We are all diverse | Reinaldo Bulgarelli | TEDxLaçador
- Description:
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Reinaldo shows us we need to talk about diversity and inclusion. Respecting doesn't mean being indifferent, it doesn't mean treating everyone as equals. People have different characteristics, therefore, different needs, demands, interests, perspectives, expectations. Among the more than seven billion people in the world, each one of us is unique and special; each one of us is one of the solutions that life has found within the great many possible compositions.
With his 40 years of history, Reinaldo Bulgarelli is a diversity consultant focusing on large organizations. As an executive secretary of LGBTI+ Company and Rights Forum , he has contributed for a more inclusive, respectful, open and safe company environment for everyone; really everyone. Reinaldo has shared with us a statement by Eleanor Roosevelt worth thinking about, "Where, after all, do universal human rights begin? In small places, close to home – so close and so small that they cannot be seen on any maps of the world. [...] Unless these rights have meaning there, they have little meaning anywhere. Without concerned citizen action to uphold them close to home, we shall look in vain for progress in the larger world."This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- Portuguese, Brazilian
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- 16:16
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