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    Part 4:
    Questions & Expressing
    and Receiving Gratitude
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    This morning you made
    a reference to giraffe mourning,
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    and that there's a different way of
    saying you're sorry to someone,
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    and I wanted to
    hear what that was.
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    - Ok. Let's real quick look at what
    I mean by "giraffe mourning".
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    Think of something you did
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    that you wished you hadn't done.
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    [Laughter]
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    And identify...recall as best as
    you can how you talked to yourself,
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    when you said it or did it,
    whatever you did.
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    So, what did you do that you wished
    you hadn't done after you'd done it?
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    And give me a sample of what you
    said to yourself when you did it.
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    You have one in mind?
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    - Ok.
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    That I was feeling defensive,
    and I criticized someone.
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    - So, what you did is
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    you said some things to another person
    that you wished you hadn't done.
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    - Right. - Ok. And what did you say to
    yourself when you did that?
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    - Usually, in the moment
    I feel defensive with myself.
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    - No, I want to concretely know...
    for this exercise I need to know concretely
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    what you say to yourself when you
    behave in a way you don't like.
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    This is very important to answer
    your question about giraffe mourning,
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    very important to identify what
    your inner educator is saying to you.
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    See this?
    All of us have an inner educator,
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    whose function is to educate us
    when we are less than perfect.
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    Now, most of us made the mistake
    of sending our inner educator off
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    to a brutal jackal academy
    for inner educators.
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    And so, it's important to be conscious
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    of how our inner educator talks to us.
    So that's what I'm asking you.
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    When you said what you did to your husband,
    what did your inner educator...
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    how did your inner educator
    try to educate you?
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    What did it say to you
    about what you had done?
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    - In the moment or later? - Either one.
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    - Well, the point when I've start
    to feel regret or sorry is later.
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    - At any point, what did you say to
    yourself about what you had done?
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    - Ok. I said I'm a bad person...
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    - Now, that's enough.
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    Your inner educator tries to
    educate you through penitence.
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    Through making you hate yourself
    for what you've done.
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    It uses language that implies there's
    such a thing as a bad person.
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    All right. Now, if you apologize
    out of that energy, that's jackal.
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    Any apology that comes out of thinking
    you did something wrong
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    is not going to be good for you
    or the other person.
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    You with me so far?
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    - I know it feels bad. - Yeah. It feels bad.
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    And I really want you to
    feel bad in this situation,
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    but I want you to feel sweet bad.
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    A sweet bad that will help you learn
    from this without hating yourself.
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    When you have a thought in your head that
    you're a bad person, that's ugly bad.
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    That's a punitive bad.
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    That will first
    make it hard to learn.
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    And even if you do learn,
    it's out of self-hatred,
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    so whatever changes you make
    are at great cost.
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    So, that's your inner educator.
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    That was your inner
    educator speaking to you
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    when it said you're a bad person.
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    Now, we've been learning today
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    that all judgements are
    expressions of needs, right?
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    So, your inner educator means well.
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    It really means well.
    It wants you to learn from this
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    in a way that will serve life.
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    It means well,
    it's just its language that sucks. Ok?
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    So we don't want to hear what the
    inner educator thinks about us.
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    We want to hear the need
    that isn't getting met,
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    that it's trying to call
    to our attention.
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    So, what need is your inner educator
    trying to bring to your attention
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    that you didn't meet
    by how you behaved?
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    - Aaah... a need to...
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    ...be in a relationship
    with the other person?
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    - A need...in what kind of relationship?
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    - A mutual understanding, respectful?
    - Right.
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    So it didn't meet your need for respecting
    and understanding the other person.
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    - Yeah. - And how do you feel
    when that need isn't met?
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    - Guilty. - Then you still got the bad person
    image in mind. See?
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    You still think you're a bad...
    if there's anything still going on,
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    that guilt comes from the judgement.
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    - Well, I feel separate and isolated.
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    But how do you feel?
    What emotion do you feel about
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    not meeting your own needs
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    for understanding and respecting?
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    See, the guilt comes from that
    image of a bad person.
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    What feeling comes from
    not meeting your need
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    to respond toward this person with
    respect and understanding?
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    - Sad.
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    - That's a sweet pain.
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    That's giraffe mourning.
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    So, if you say to the person
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    "The way I talk
    to you, I feel really sad.
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    It doesn't meet my need for respecting
    you and understanding you".
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    You see? There's no image in
    there that I'm a bad person.
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    I'm sad.
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    I didn't meet my own need for respecting
    and understanding you.
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    Check with the other person
    what they'd rather hear.
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    Whether they'd rather hear
    the giraffe mourning,
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    or the apology that you're
    a bad person.
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    Yes.
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    - I'm having a little problem
    trying to find the teeth
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    in this model somehow.
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    It seems like everything is... even though
    we're talking as on a feeling level,
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    everything seems...
    i'm interpreting, anyway...
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    is sort of on a mental level
    as opposed to an emotional level,
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    and I guess I operate a lot
    from my gut,
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    and I'm trying to get down
    to that somehow.
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    So I need some help with it.
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    Basically, tell me how
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    I would be able to use this
    technique in my daily life.
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    to make it not... well,
    so that it's natural, you know?
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    It's not natural for me
    to operate this way.
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    - The first thing I would recommend to you
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    is change the word
    "natural" to "habitual".
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    - Do what?
    - Change the word "natural" to "habitual".
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    I think this process is natural,
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    more natural than the way
    you were trained to think.
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    So, Gandhi says "It's very dangerous
    to mix up the words
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    'natural' and 'habitual'".
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    He says "We have been trained to be
    quite habitual at communicating
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    in ways that are quite unnatural".
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    So, I can't think of a more natural
    way to communicate
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    than to talk about
    what's alive in us.
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    Just what we're
    feeling and needing.
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    - When you feel like saying...if I feel like saying "no",
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    saying "no" seems ok to me,
    but what you were saying before is that...
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    - What do you mean by "ok" in
    "It's ok to say 'no'"?
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    - What do you mean by what do I mean?
    We could go back and forth.
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    - Pardon? - We can go back and forth by
    asking each other...
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    - Yes, so let me be more specific.
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    When you say "no",
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    I predict that by saying "no",
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    more often than you would like
    the other person is going to react to you
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    in a way that isn't in your best interest.
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    But if you say the need behind the "no",
    that's less likely to happen.
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    - So, then, if I understand
    what you're saying,
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    you're trying to...the idea is to
    communicate in a way that
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    the other person would
    communicate back to you,
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    so that it's in my best interest?
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    - I'm saying the purpose of this process is
    to get everybody's needs met,
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    and that the needs are met
    by people giving willingly,
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    not out of any coercive motivation.
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    And I'm saying that when you say "no",
    it gets in the way of
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    the likelihood that everybody's needs
    are going to end up getting met.
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    If you say the need that keeps
    you from saying "yes",
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    I predict there's more likelihood that
    everybody's needs will end up getting met.
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    - If I understand
    what you're saying,
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    you're saying: "Just express your
    needs without saying the 'no'."
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    - I'm saying the need is a clearer expression
    of what you're trying to say than "no".
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    You get clearer and more
    connected to life
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    when you say the need that
    keeps you from saying "yes"
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    than just saying "no".
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    And it's less likely to be
    interpreted as a rejection,
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    as you being defensive...
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    To just say the "no"
    by itself, I predict
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    is more likely to get you interpretations
    that aren't in your best interest.
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    - Sometimes when I don't hear a "no"
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    I look at it as being sort of a
    passive aggressive response
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    to something that I might want.
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    Someone... for example if I make an appointment
    with somebody
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    and instead of them saying "no",
    they just don't show up.
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    And then they give me a reason
    why they don't show up.
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    - Yes. I'm not suggesting that.
    I'm not suggesting that response.
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    I'm suggesting that I would have
    liked that person
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    to have told you honestly at the time
    what their need was.
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    I think if they had done that you wouldn't
    have gotten into that situation.
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    They said a "yes" that wasn't so.
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    - Some people won't say "I'm afraid".
    - Pardon me?
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    - Let's say if the reason is
    that they are afraid to.
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    - That would depend a lot on what
    has happened in the past to them
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    when they have said "no"
    in whatever way they did it.
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    If they have not enjoyed very
    empathic responses to it in the past,
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    then they're probably afraid to
    be honest about it now.
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    - I see the value in all this.
    I really do.
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    I guess it's the idea that it's
    a touchy-feely type of thing
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    that I'm not used to working around.
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    - What you're trying to figure out,
    if I'm understanding,
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    is how to really put this into a
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    idiom that you can use daily and
    feels comfortable to you.
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    - That's one way of putting it.
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    - And so, in our training,
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    we first show people how
    to develop the literacy
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    and then how to put it into their
    regular language.
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    I had a student traveling with me,
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    and he wanted to give me gratitude. Ok?
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    He liked something I did.
    I was really working the group hard.
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    And during the break, he said "dictator".
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    That was giraffe,
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    because he knew that I knew
    what he was reacting to.
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    He knew i wouldn't hear a judgement.
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    He knew that I would guess in there
    what he was feeling and needing.
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    So he could say that to me: "Dictator!"
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    So, after we really know how to
    clearly identify
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    our feelings, needs, requests,
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    then we can start to put it into a language
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    that can connect us with people
    we're speaking with.
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    But in this stage of the day,
    after one day,
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    I'm still working with you on
    making sure you understand
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    what a feeling and a need is, because
    if you don't really understand that,
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    it's going to be hard to know how
    to then put it into your idiom.
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    - I guess I'm a recovering
    New York jackal.
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    [Laughter]
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    I'm getting the impression that
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    apology isn't really
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    the best service of being a giraffe.
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    I'd like to know if
    you could model...
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    I'd like to see you model for me
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    an acknowledgement of
    missing the mark,
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    sinning courageously...
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    - If you recall earlier,
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    I showed an example of that where
    I showed the person saying
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    "I feel sad.
    I would've liked
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    to have responded with more
    understanding than I did".
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    - So you're not using the words "I'm sorry".
    You're saying "I'm sad".
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    It's not so much the words
    "I'm sorry".
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    What we shifted from
    was thinking that I did something wrong
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    that it was bad.
    It's that thinking that is the problem,
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    and the "I'm sorry" follows
    from that thinking.
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    So it's not just that I don't say "I'm sorry",
    I say "I'm sad", if I'm sad.
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    The words "I'm sorry"
    mean almost nothing.
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    People can say that and
    not feel anything.
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    You say that to buy forgiveness.
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    So, if I'm feeling sad, I say that.
    "I'm feeling sad. I would have liked to
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    have been more aware of your
    needs" for example
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    where I didn't take the person's
    needs into consideration.
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    But I don't say
    "I'm sorry, that was inconsiderate of me".
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    There's no self-blame.
    I didn't do anything wrong.
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    There is no such thing as
    doing anything wrong.
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    What I did was not in harmony
    with my needs. I want to mourn that.
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    "I'm sad. I would've liked to have
    been more aware of your needs".
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    - Something like that. Does that give you the example?
    - Very much so. Thank you.
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    - I have a question.
    Over here. To your left.
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    I have a situation with my
    intimate partner
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    that many times we get together
    and we argue a lot,
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    and I have this need
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    that you were saying earlier
    is inappropriate:
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    I want her to be happy.
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    - I didn't say it's inappropriate.
    I said it was undoable.
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    - OK. Right.
    That's what she keeps telling me.
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    - If you're going to tell me to be happy,
    tell me the action to get there.
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    That I can do.
    If you tell me an action
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    which you predict that if I do that,
    I'll be happy at the end,
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    that would be helpful. Tell me the action.
    Don't just tell me to be happy.
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    Don't tell me to have
    confidence in myself.
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    Tell me what you would like me
    to do to feel that confidence.
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    The action will get me there,
    but just telling me what to feel
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    puts me into a paradoxical bind.
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    - Ok.
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    One of the other things would be that
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    when we get together,
    I don't necessarily want to be
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    going somewhere with her, if
    she's not in a good mood at that time
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    or if there's some kind of tenseness...
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    - Then empathize with why I'm not in a
    good mood and I'll be in one.
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    But telling me that I got
    to be in a better mood
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    for you to want to go with me
    gets me in a worse mood.
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    - Ok.
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    - I'm wondering if there are
    some times when...
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    Over here.
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    I'm feeling some anxiety about a trip
    I'm planning to visit my mother soon
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    and we have a dynamic where she
    really wants to help me
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    figure out every detail of
    what I'm doing during my stay,
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    and I'd like to be left alone.
    - So, let me show you how to do it.
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    - And I'm afraid that if I
    talk to her like this,
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    it's going to make matters much worse.
    - Ok. Then we'll teach you how...
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    If it does, we'll show you how to
    enjoy it when it gets worse.
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    But first, let me show you the
    first thing to do
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    if we want a person to consider another
    behaviour than the one they're doing,
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    start the communication
    by showing them that
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    what they're doing is the most precious
    thing they could be doing.
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    This way: empathy.
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    Start by empathizing with mother's
    intent in behaving as she does.
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    "Mother, I'm guessing that when
    you jump in and want to
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    show me all the things
    that could be done,
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    you really care a lot about my
    enjoying myself on this trip
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    and want to be sure you support that.
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    - Oh, yes, yes, blรก, blรก...
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    - Yeah, so,
    it's really very important to you that
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    I have a good time and you want
    to contribute to it.
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    - Yeah."
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    That's step one.
    See what I mean?
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    That's what I mean by starting by
    showing you understand.
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    Now, the more we're concerned
    about that behaviour,
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    the more important it is to
    start with this.
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    See? That's why
    when I work in prisons,
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    and this person has been sexualy
    molesting people, or raping people,
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    if I would like this person to find
    another way of behaving,
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    the first thing I got to do is make sure they
    don't hate themselves for what they're doing.
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    The more they hate themselves for what they're
    doing, the more they'll continue doing it.
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    So I start by empathizing
    with what their needs are, in doing it.
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    Ok. So, you got that step.
    The next step...
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    What we started off the day with...
    I'd tell honestly how I feel.
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    "Mom, I feel torn right now because
    I'm grateful for your intent.
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    But... I really have a need to kind of make
    my own choices here,
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    because I think it would be very hard
    for anybody else to really know what I need
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    and I need this space
    to figure it out for myself.
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    So, would you tell me what you
    heard me say, mother,
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    so I can see if I'm making
    myself clear?"
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    [Laughter]
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    So now I know mother
    didn't hear me.
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    Now I know mother
    didn't hear my needs.
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    She probably heard a rejection.
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    She probably heard that
    she's not valued.
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    But it's important that I not think that her
    reaction is because of what I said.
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    If I express my feelings and needs,
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    it would be impossible for a person to
    react this way, if they heard it.
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    They would've gotten a gift.
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    They would have the eyes of a little child
    getting a gift from Santa Claus.
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    That doesn't look like what mother's
    looking like right now.
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    "So, mom, could you tell me what
    you just heard me say?
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    - You don't want me.
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    - So, you heard it as a kind
    of a rejection, mother?
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    - Of course. How else could
    I have heard it?
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    - Well, thank you for telling me you
    heard it as a rejection, mother."
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    Notice I didn't say
    "that isn't what I said".
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    See?
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    If you want to have people
    understand you differently,
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    never tell them
    "you're misunderstanding me".
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    Never say
    "That isn't what I said".
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    Say "Thank you for telling me
    that's what you heard.
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    I can see I didn't make myself clear.
    I'd like to try again, mother,
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    because I do value very much,
    your offering to help,
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    but I have a need to kind of get my own
    needs clear and structure my own time.
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    Can you tell me what you heard me say?
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    - So you think I don't have any
    intelligence about helping you.
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    - Thank you for telling me that's what
    you're hearing, mother.
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    I'd like for you to hear
    it differently.
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    I'd like you just to hear my needs.
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    That I have a real need to kind of sort things
    out for myself, and structure my own time.
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    Could you tell me what you heard?
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    - You have a need to kind of get clear for yourself
    what you want and to figure things out.
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    - Thank you mother."
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    See how easy it is to get empathy
    from a jackal? Just about
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    3 ear pulls, and I got it.
    Right?
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    Now, there are some 8-pull
    jackals, too, I know that.
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    But I can tell from how sweet you are
    your mother is a 3-pull jackal.
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    - Thank you.
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    [Laughter]
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    - Yes...
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    - You mentioned earlier this morning
    about enjoying suffering.
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    Could you elaborate on that?
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    - Oh yes. That's very important.
    Thank you for getting back to me about it.
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    Ok. A friend of yours says this to you:
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    "I'm a nothing.
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    I'll never amount to anything.
    Look, I'm an assistant clerk at age 45.
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    My brother's the head of his company,
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    my sister's a top attorney,
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    and I'm nothing."
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    Ok?
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    Now, to enjoy this person's suffering,
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    we have to release ourselves
    from 2 kinds of responsibility.
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    First, that we didn't cause the pain.
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    And we want to release ourselves from that,
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    especially when the other person's trying
    to make us believe we did cause the pain.
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    So if this person had started "and you're
    at fault for all of this why I'm a nothing."
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    Especially when a person says that,
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    we do not want to in any way think
    that we caused this person's pain,
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    because you can't cause another person's
    psychological pain.
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    Well, in this case, the person wasn't
    saying that so that's pretty easy to
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    liberate ourself from
    feeling responsible,
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    but the second one is the hard one.
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    To think we have to fix it.
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    To make the person feel better.
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    The more we think it's our job
    to make a person feel better,
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    the more we're going
    to make it worse.
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    Because you can't fix people.
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    The good news is you don't have to.
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    There is a very powerful healing
    energy always available
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    if we don't block it.
    And how do we block that energy?
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    By trying to fix things ourselves.
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    So, how do we help that
    energy to do the job?
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    By empathy.
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    Empathy requires presence,
    just to be present.
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    When we are just present, when we are
    remembering the Buddha's advice
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    "don't do something. Stand there."
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    When we do that, and that
    energy works through us,
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    there is a precious connection
    between that person and us.
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    And that precious connection is what
    i mean by enjoying the pain,
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    to enjoy that precious connection.
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    And whether this person's
    feeling joy or pain,
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    if we are present there with them,
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    that's what I mean.
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    But we block that beautiful energy whenever
    we step in and think we have to fix things.
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    So, if we say "there, there, there. You'll feel
    better. You'll get over it" we make it worse.
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    When we start to give advice,
    we make it worse.
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    So, what does that look like?
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    "So, you're feeling really discouraged
    and really would like
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    to have achieved more in your life
    at this moment than you've done.
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    - Yes, yes, I've had every opportunity,
    and look at me.
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    I've just never made
    use of anything.
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    - Yeah, so you're really discouraged
    and frustrated, and
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    would really liked to have made different
    use of some things than you have.
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    - Yeah."
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    See, I'm just present.
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    I'm not trying to fix it.
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    And when that happens, there's
    a very precious connection.
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    That's what I mean by enjoyment.
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    And that precious connection
    does the healing.
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    Not your advice,
    not your whatever.
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    Yes...
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    - Can you clarify the distinction
    between empathizing,
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    and sort of encouraging and supporting
    the soap opera of,
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    you know, somebody who is...
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    somebody who's suffering,
    and sometimes by being there,
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    it's sort of a subtle encouragement,
    as opposed to...
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    - The subtle encouragement that
    I think you're talking about
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    comes about when this person is talking
    about what happened to them,
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    for the 50th time you've
    heard the story.
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    So, if I'm really listening to them,
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    I don't hear what they talk
    about the past,
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    because I know that the more
    they talk about the past,
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    the less healing will take place.
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    So I interrupt.
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    But I interrupt to bring the
    conversation to life.
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    They're talking about the past,
    and I interrupt and I say
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    "excuse me, but it sounds like right
    now you're still feeling hurt,
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    because your need for respect
    wasn't met in that".
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    See? Because just letting them
    talk about the past
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    and asking them questions about
    what happened about the past
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    is to just keep the soap
    opera going.
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    So I interrupt when they talk
    about the past
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    because we don't heal by
    talking about the past.
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    we heal by talking about what's
    alive in us right now,
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    stimulated by the past,
    but it's what is here now
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    and when I connect at that level
    they won't keep talking about it.
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    They'll heal.
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    Last question and then
    I'm going to get into
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    the subject that I'd like to cover
    before the end. Yes?
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    - You talk about having... let's see...
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    if someone else cannot cause
    our emotional pain...
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    - That's right.
    - ...and I think about
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    the abuse that I grew up with and
    that I see in a lot of families
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    and the suffering that I've experienced
    throughout my life,
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    through my recovery and all that,...
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    - And other people were a stimulus
    for your suffering
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    and you were a participant
    by how you dealt with it.
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    For example, if you follow me in my work
    you would see this very clearly.
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    In places like Rwanda, Burundi,
    Sierra Leone,
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    I'm working with people that
    had their families killed.
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    Some of those people have such rage
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    that all they live for, moment by moment
    is the possibility of vengeance.
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    Others have no anger,
    have never had anger.
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    Same exact stimulus.
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    They have deep feelings,
    but not rage.
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    So it is not the stimulus that determines
    how our emocional reaction is.
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    That part is up to us.
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    I work with some women,
    unfortunately a lot, who have been raped.
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    And some of them feel shame,
    deep shame,
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    some feel rage,
    some feel other things.
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    So the same stimulus
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    depends how people take it whether they
    feel shame, rage or other things.
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    I'm working with a women from
    Rwanda who had...
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    she heard her three children being
    killed because she got
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    to underneath the sink, hid underneath
    the sink in time,
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    the children didn't make it to the hiding place
    in time, they got killed, she heard them,
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    she heard her husband being killed
    and her brother.
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    She had to stay underneath there
    11 days to save her own life
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    because they stayed in the house
    after they killed the family.
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    This woman has deep feelings,
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    but never once she had the kind of anger
    that makes her want to get vengeance.
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    She has put all of her feelings and
    lots of them into protecting...
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    preventing this happening
    to anybody else. You see?
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    So the way she looked at it
    leads her to want to
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    prevent this happening to anybody else.
    She came to my workshop
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    because she wanted to know how
    to deal with the rage towards her
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    from other people in her tribe
    who are furious with her
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    that she won't join their efforts
    to kill the other people.
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    Same stimulus,
    quite different reactions.
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    - Ok, so I had this stimulus
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    and somewhere I learned
    how to deal with it
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    in the way that I had dealt with it
    and I'm learning to change that now.
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    - Yes. The worst thing of course would be no
    matter how you did choose to deal with it
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    is to think that there is something wrong
    with how you chose to deal with it.
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    I'm not wanting us to get into one way
    is right or wrong, I'm just saying that
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    no matter what happens to us,
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    the other person is responsible
    for what they did,
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    I'm not saying that the other person
    doesn't have responsability.
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    - That's my question about
    accountability.
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    - That person is responsible for what
    they did and why they did it.
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    We are responsible for how
    we deal with that.
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    OK?
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    I'm just wondering how a child becomes
    responsible... I mean still...
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    The first thing I do is, I wouldn't want to teach
    the child the lesson I just tought you
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    until I had given that child
    all the empathy that child needed
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    and I would guess it would be a lot.
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    So I can see myself dealing
    with a long time
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    of hearing this childs enormous
    pain as a result of this.
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    But then in the course of this
    I would be seeing this child
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    having some pain created by
    how they looked at it.
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    So I would see that they're creating
    pain on top of pain,
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    by how they looked at it
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    so, after the child had all the empathy
    he or she needed
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    then I would do what I could
    to get them to see it
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    in a way that wouldn't create
    unnecessary pain for themselves.
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    This is a baby jackal yes.
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    OK, now what I would like to do
    in the precious time that we have left
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    is to deal with a very important part of
    giraffe, because I wouldn't want you to
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    get the idea that
    Non Violent Communication
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    is solely interested in
    conflict resolution,
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    because it's equally
    interested in celebration.
  • 30:41 - 30:43
    How could we celebrate life
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    in fact, the part that I have left for
    ten minutes before the end
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    is in some respects the most important part
    because it's where we get the fuel
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    to stay giraffe
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    in a what's often a
    very jackalish world.
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    So it's going to be pretty hard to
    make this radical transformation into
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    back to our nature
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    in many situations unless we
    are getting plenty of fuel.
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    Now where does the fuel come from?
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    The fuel comes from celebration.
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    And what kind of celebration?
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    It comes from saying
    thank you in giraffe.
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    So let's see now, in the last minutes,
    how we celebrate
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    by saying thank you in giraffe.
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    Expressing gratitude in giraffe.
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    And first I would like to remind you
    of how jackals say thank you.
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    "You did a good job on that paper."
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    "You are a very kind person."
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    "You are a good dancer."
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    Can you see why that's jackal?
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    Moralistic judgements.
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    Positive moralistic judgements
    are equally
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    as violent in my estimations
    as negative ones.
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    Namely they reinforce the idea that the
    negative exist. If I say you're a kind person,
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    I'm implying there's such a thing
    as an unkind person.
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    I'm also implying that I'm the judge
    that knows the difference.
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    So no more praise or compliments, OK?
    No more praise or compliments.
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    Especially when you intend
    them as a reward.
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    That's the ultimate dehumanization,
    to use thank you as a reward.
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    To say it for the purpose of trying
    to reinforce someting,
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    To get the person to continue doing it.
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    It's like sending a... what goes on at
    a dog obedience school?
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    Punishment and rewards.
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    Giving a compliment or praise for
    the purpose of reinforcement
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    is giving the dog a... something to
    eat to reinforce it for something.
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    People are not for that treatment.
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    And it destroys the beauty
    of thank you,
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    when people have to wonder:
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    "Is this being said out of that energy?"
  • 33:05 - 33:07
    "- But it works!
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    - What does, jackal?
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    - Studies in management indicate
    that if managers
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    praise and compliment employees
    daily, product goes up.
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    Studies in school show
    that if teachers
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    praise and compliment students
    daily they work harder.
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    - Jackal take another look
    at the research.
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    I think you'll see that that only
    works for a very short time,
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    until people see the manipulation.
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    And then it no longer works.
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    And it destroys the beauty
    of thank you
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    because now
    you can not even trust gratitude
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    without wondering whether it's being
    used as reinforcement, as a reward.
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    - Well what if I want to build up the other
    person's self-esteem, what's wrong with that?
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    - So you... jackal you don't see
    the irony of that?
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    - What?
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    - If the other person can only like themself when
    you compliment them, they have no self-esteem.
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    You've just addicted them
    to your rewards.
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    That they only feel good when you say something
    about them. They have no self-esteem."
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    OK.
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    How does a giraffe say
    "thank you"? Or gratitude?
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    First, there are three things that are
    involved in a giraffe expression of
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    gratitude that give us energy to
    keep being a giraffe.
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    The first thing in a giraffe expression
    of gratitude
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    is we bring to this other person's
    attention concretely
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    what they have done that has made
    life more wonderful for us.
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    See, that's what we need to do, daily.
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    We need to bring our consciousness
    and attention
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    to the power that each one of us has
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    to make life more wonderful.
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    Each of us is a powerhouse.
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    We have words
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    that have the power to contribute to making
    people's lives more wonderful.
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    We have touch, we can touch
    people in ways
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    that can make life more wonderful.
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    We can provide services for people.
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    We are powerhouses.
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    The more we remember this,
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    we'll not get caught up in any
    violent games.
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    Why would we use our energy
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    any way other than to make life wonderful
    when we remember that we have this power?
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    So that's one thing we've got to make
    clear in our expression of gratitude
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    specifically what the person did,
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    not some vague generality.
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    For example a woman in Geneva Switzerland
    came by up to me at the end of a workshop.
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    Here's what she said to me:
    "You're brilliant."
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    I said:
    "Doesn't help."
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    She said:
    "What do you mean?"
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    I said: "You know mam, I've been called a
    lot of names in my life, really I have.
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    Some positive and some
    far less than positive.
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    And I can never recall learning anything valuable
    by somebody telling me what I am.
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    I think there's zero information
    value being told what you are
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    and great danger,
    you might believe it.
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    And it's just as dangerous to believe
    that you're smart as that you're stupid.
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    Both of them reduce you to a thing.
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    We're much more than either of those.
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    But I can see in your eyes that you
    want to express some gratitude.
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    - Yes!
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    - And I want to receive it but, doesn't
    help me to be told what I am.
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    - What do you need to hear?
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    - What did I do to make life
    more wonderful for you?
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    - Well, well, you're so intelligent.
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    - No, doesn't help.
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    - Doesn't help. What did I do?
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    Oh I got you, I got you."
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    She opens up her notebook,
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    she showed me two things that I had said
    that she had written down.
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    She put a big star by them.
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    See? That helps me now.
    Ok.
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    That helps to know,
    that somehow,
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    my saying those two things
    made this persons life more wonderful.
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    So that's the first thing we need to say
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    in appreciation. We need to bring to the
    persons attention concretely what they did
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    that made life more wonderful.
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    Second:
    at the moment we're giving the gratitude
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    to say how we feel at that moment
    about the person having done that.
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    So I said to this woman:
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    "Could you tell me how you feel now as the
    result of my having said those two things?"
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    She said "Hopeful and relieved."
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    - Oh! Hopeful and relieved!
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    That gives me much more than telling
    me what I am, that I'm brilliant."
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    Just to know that somehow my
    saying those two things,
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    now this person feels hopeful
    and relieved.
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    Now when I hear the third thing I'll be
    able to really enjoy this gratitude.
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    I said: "what need of yours
    was fulfilled
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    by my saying what I did
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    that leaves you feeling hopeful
    and relieved?"
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    And that's the third thing we need
    to see in a giraffe gratitude.
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    She said,
    "I have an 18 year old son.
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    I've never been able to
    connect with him.
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    It's been very painful that
    we never can connect,
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    and I have needed some direction,
    to help me connect with him.
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    Those two things you said met my
    need for some concrete direction."
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    So had she exressed her gratitude
    in giraffe, she would have said:
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    "Marshall when you said these two things,"
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    (showed me what the two things were)
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    "it leaves me feeling hopeful
    and relieved,
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    it meets a need of mine to connect
    with my son in a way that I want."
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    OK? That's how we say gratitude in
    giraffe. Those three things.
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    And it's also important how
    we receive gratitude.
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    Let me show you how a jackal
    receives gratitude.
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    "Jackal when you offered to
    give me the ride
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    that just now to where I'm
    going afterwards
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    I feel very grateful because
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    I really have a need to spend
    more time with my family,
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    and if I took the bus I'd have
    an hour less time.
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    - It's nothing."
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    "De rien."
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    If you want to terrorize a jackal,
    express love and appreciation to him.
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    Really, if you really want
    to scare a jackal,
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    I've never seen anything scare
    jackal-speaking people more
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    than sincere gratitude or love.
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    "Why do you get so nervous,
    jackal, when you hear it?
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    - Well I don't know that I deserved it."
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    See, jackals have this dangerous
    concept in their head:
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    Deserve.
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    It's a very violent concept.
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    See it implies you have to
    deserve appreciation.
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    You do deserve punishment if you behave in
    a certain way. See, the concept of deserve
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    is a key ingredient in a
    violent way of life.
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    If you believe in deserve you think
    certain things are worth things,
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    and you'll set up a very destructive
    economic system.
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    You'll set up a destructive
    correctional system.
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    Very dangerous concept.
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    "Well that's not the only reason.
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    - Why else do you get so scared when
    you hear gratitude jackal?
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    - What's wrong with being humble?
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    - So you want to...
    have a need for humility?
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    - Yes.
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    - Well you know jackal there's
    different kinds of humility.
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    I'm afraid that your kind is
    a jackal humility.
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    I think your kind is the kind that
    Golda Meir, the Israeli Prime Minister,
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    was reacting to when she said to
    one of her politicians:
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    'Don't be so humble,
    you're not that great.'"
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    But the main reason that I
    believe that gratitude
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    is so scary for many of us to receive
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    is beautifully and poetically written
    in 'The Course of Miracles'
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    where they say "it's our light,
    not our darkness,
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    that scares us the most."
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    See having been educated in this
    jackal way to hate ourselves,
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    to think there's something
    wrong with us.
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    It's a big jump to really
    see what I was saying.
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    That we have an enormous power
    to make life wonderful.
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    And there's nothing we enjoy doing
    more than exercising that power.
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    That's pretty unfortunately a pretty big jump
    for us to come to. But we can come to it.
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    So that's how we say gratitude:
    observation, feeling and need.
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    Same literacy.
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    Make sure it's coming from
    the heart to celebrate,
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    and never to praise,
    compliment, reward.
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    So any last comments or questions
    before our time runs out?
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    I'm grateful for all your time
    and attention to me.
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