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← Will God Give Me Life? (1 John 5:16) - Ask Pastor Tim

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  1. This one comes from Vlad.
  2. That sounds Russian or Romanian.
  3. "If I have sinned,
  4. and sin brings death (James 1:15),
  5. how can I have life
  6. and fellowship with God again?
  7. I've committed a sin
  8. and realize I no longer have the same
  9. relationship I had.
  10. Although I was pressed by God to repent,
  11. and did so.
  12. Can you say something about 1 John 5:16,
  13. "God will give him life,"
  14. because that is what I'm looking for.
  15. I have read somewhere
  16. that the relationship is not broken,
  17. but fellowship can be broken.
  18. Is it biblical to say so?"
  19. Ok. Somebody read James 1:15.
  20. Let's get a feel for
    where he's struggling.
  21. Somebody read James 1:15.
  22. "And desire when it has conceived
  23. gives birth to sin,
  24. and sin, when it is fully grown,
  25. brings forth death."
  26. Ok, so he sees desire, sin, death.
  27. But it doesn't just say if there's desire
  28. and it results in a sin,
  29. that there's death.
  30. It says sin does something.
  31. What does it say happens to sin?
  32. When sin what?
  33. Is fully grown.
  34. Now that's not to say that the wage
  35. of a single sin isn't death.
  36. But when he talks about sin fully grown,
  37. it's like there's this growth.
  38. Now he's describing desire.
  39. What's behind sin?
  40. There's desire that fuels our sin.
  41. And then sin, when it's full grown,
  42. then there's death.
  43. More like a picture of the
    life of the unbeliever.
  44. You have this desire that percolates
  45. and results in sin, and the sin grows,
  46. kind of like the sin of the Amorites.
  47. It's not yet full.
  48. It grows.
  49. Our sin grows. It multiplies.
  50. And you get to this place
  51. where you're like
    Christian in Pilgrim's Progress
  52. where you've got this
    huge pack on your back.
  53. It's like God lets it
    grow to a certain place
  54. and then it just explodes in death.
  55. But the very fact that James walks us
  56. all the way through;
  57. there's no life - it just goes to death.
  58. That would seem to indicate the growth
  59. of lust and sin resulting in death
  60. in the life of an unbeliever.
  61. It's basically just lost man.
  62. Now he also mentions 1 John.
  63. Let's go over there. 1 John 5:16
  64. Somebody read 1 John 5:16.
  65. Brethren, I'll tell you this,
  66. sometimes the most difficult verses
  67. to understand can really be helpful
  68. in shedding light on some things
  69. when properly understood.
  70. Sometimes difficult verses can be
  71. the foundation for horrible error.
  72. Sometimes they can be really helpful
  73. in helping us to see things
  74. the way they really are.
  75. Somebody read 1 John 5:16.
  76. "If anyone sees his
    brother committing a sin
  77. not leading to death,
  78. he shall ask and God will give him life -
  79. to those who commit sins
    that do not lead to death,
  80. There is sin that leads to death.
  81. I do not say that one
    should pray for that."
  82. Read it again:
  83. "If anyone sees his brother committing..."
  84. Ok, stop.
  85. Who's he writing to?
  86. Who is 1 John written to?
  87. Who said believers?
  88. Prove it.
  89. Prove it's written to believers.
  90. (from the room)
  91. "My little children..."
  92. My little children - where
    does it say that?
  93. (from the room)
  94. 1 John 2:1
  95. Quote 1 John 5:13
  96. "I write these things to you who
  97. believe in the name of the Son of God."
  98. I write these things to you who believe.
  99. Ok, go back to 5:16.
  100. "If anyone sees his
    brother committing a sin..."
  101. Ok, who is he speaking to now?
  102. He's speaking to those who believe.
  103. And if they see who?
  104. His brother.
  105. What's the implication there?
  106. Is he speaking about seeing a lost man?
  107. Now, see, I would say
  108. James was speaking about a lost man.
  109. Now, he may be speaking about
  110. what would happen to any one of us
  111. if we weren't plucked from that.
  112. But basically, the end is death.
  113. The end for the Christian isn't death.
  114. The end for the Christian is life.
  115. But if we go here,
  116. the idea is that if anybody sees a brother
  117. who's sinning a sin
    that is not unto death.
  118. Well, if they're truly a brother,
  119. if they're truly a brother...
  120. now I recognize sometimes Scripture
  121. speaks about what people claim to be,
  122. not what they really are.
  123. And Scripture is charitable
  124. and will regard people according to
  125. what they claim to be.
  126. Scripture can speak about
  127. the righteous.
  128. Jesus talked about He didn't come
  129. to call the righteous.
  130. Scripture calls them
    what they claim to be,
  131. not what they really are.
  132. But here, a brother.
  133. You see a brother who commits a sin
  134. not unto death.
  135. Well, anybody that's truly a brother,
  136. truly a Christian, can only
  137. commit sins that aren't unto death.
  138. But in light of the context of 1 John,
  139. what would be a sin that leads unto death?
  140. The feel is - what he's talking about
  141. is you've got these antichrists.
  142. They went out from us, because
    they weren't of us.
  143. See, they continue in sin.
  144. They practice sin.
  145. And the idea is,
  146. if you go out after having had this light,
  147. and you go on practicing sin,
  148. that's a sin unto death.
  149. You see, the idea here is,
  150. he's talking to them about something
  151. he expects them to recognize
  152. from his epistle
  153. what he's talking about,
  154. when he talks about a sin
  155. that leads unto death,
  156. when he talks about a sin
    that doesn't lead unto death.
  157. If you go through the whole letter,
  158. he's talking about Christians...
  159. "I write to you, little
    children, that you don't sin.
  160. But if you do sin, we have an Advocate
  161. with the Father -
    Jesus Christ the Righteous."
  162. You know that is a sin that
    doesn't lead unto death.
  163. Why? Because,
    "my little children."
  164. And we have an Advocate.
  165. So that doesn't lead to death.
  166. Whereas those who
    professed to be Christians
  167. at one point, but denied Jesus Christ -
  168. to deny Jesus Christ doesn't mean
  169. you say Jesus doesn't exist.
  170. It means you deny something about Him.
  171. They continued in this sin.
  172. They went out from among the Christians
  173. because they weren't
    really of the Christians.
  174. They continued in unrighteousness.
  175. He's saying, look, I say to you,
  176. you pray for those brothers -
  177. those who are faithful,
  178. those who have stuck by the Christians,
  179. those who show that they
    have a love for the brethren;
  180. those who keep the
    commandments of Jesus Christ
  181. as a rule;
  182. those who are following Him.
  183. Those who are not given to worldliness.
  184. Those who have not gone out from us,
  185. because they are of us.
  186. When they sin,
  187. you pray for it.
  188. You pray for that kind of sin,
  189. because that's a sin that
  190. doesn't lead to death.
  191. Whereas these people
    that continue in sin,
  192. these people that deny Jesus Christ -
  193. you deny the Son, you deny the Father.
  194. Those people that deny.
  195. Those heretics.
  196. Those people that are redesigning
  197. and redefining Jesus Christ.
  198. I'm not saying to pray for them.
  199. But here's what he's asking about,
  200. and here's what's really interesting.
  201. If you pray for a brother who has
  202. committed a sin not unto death.
  203. What happens?
  204. God will give him life.
  205. What happened?
  206. Did he lose life?
  207. Did he lose his life when he sinned?
  208. What do you mean
    God will give him life?
  209. I thought when we
    first believed upon
  210. the Lord Jesus Christ,
    we have eternal life.
  211. I thought that Jesus said that
  212. him who comes to Me, I will not cast out.
  213. Has he been cast out?
  214. Didn't Jesus say eternal life?
  215. No one will pluck them.
  216. Isn't that what we're told?
  217. Can it be eternal life if
  218. a brother who commits a sin
  219. that's not unto death...?
  220. Well, wait. He's a brother and
  221. he commits a sin that's not unto death.
  222. Where does life even come in?
  223. Life.
  224. Doesn't he already have life?
  225. Did it get taken away?
  226. Did he lose his life?
  227. You know, I think what it helps us to do
  228. is really think about the nature of life.
  229. We are so, I would say, earthly minded
  230. when it comes to life and death.
  231. Because we tend to see people
  232. who are moving, living...
  233. In our eyes, even though
    we don't regard things
  234. according to the flesh any longer,
  235. yet we do see through physical eyes.
  236. We've been to funerals.
  237. We look in the casket.
  238. We see death.
  239. Oh, that's death.
  240. They're dead.
  241. There's no pulse.
  242. Well, they're dead.
  243. And I recognize when we come to Scripture,
  244. we can talk more about spiritual life
  245. and spiritual death.
  246. But, do you remember
    how John defines life?
  247. Anybody remember how he defines it?
  248. John 17:3
  249. What is it to have life?
  250. (from the room)
  251. "This is eternal life,
    that they may know Thee,
  252. the one true God and Jesus Christ
  253. whom Thou hast sent."
  254. It's to know God.
  255. That's the issue.
  256. It's to know God.
  257. Life is to know God.
  258. It's to know Christ.
  259. Now look, knowing
    in Scripture is intimate.
  260. It isn't just knowing facts.
  261. To know.
  262. The word is used in
    really interesting ways.
  263. When Mary gave birth to Jesus,
  264. Joseph had not yet known her.
  265. There's sexual intimacy
    actually behind that word.
  266. To know.
  267. Life - you have to understand
  268. what Jesus is saying when He says
  269. that they will have life more abundantly.
  270. It's like we heard on Sunday.
  271. It's to embrace the glory of God.
  272. It's to see the face of God.
  273. To know God is to have intimacy with Him.
  274. It's to embrace Him.
  275. Yes, there's a knowledge
    that has to do with it.
  276. But when we talk life, when we talk death.
  277. At the deepest level, that's
    what we're talking about.
  278. Now think about this.
  279. If I am supposed to pray for a brother
  280. who commits a sin that's not unto death,
  281. which means he has life,
  282. and he's never going to see death.
  283. He's not going to go to hell.
  284. He's not going to perish.
  285. What do you mean I pray for him
  286. and God's going to give him life?
  287. He already has life.
  288. Yeah, but remember this.
  289. He's committed a sin.
  290. No, the sin doesn't lead to death.
  291. But what does that seem to communicate
  292. that if I pray for a brother or sister
  293. who sinned,
  294. what does that seem to communicate?
  295. That God will give them life?
  296. When you think about
    life as John defines it.
  297. What does it seem to mean?
  298. I don't think John
    wants us to think
  299. oh, they lost their life -
    now they get it back.
  300. They're in - they're out.
    They're in - they're out.
  301. If you sin, you're out.
  302. If you get somebody to pray for you,
  303. you're back in again.
  304. In and out; in and out;
    in and out...
  305. That's not eternal life.
  306. Because that's not eternal.
  307. That's temporary life.
  308. That's back and forth life.
  309. That's I'm alive, I'm dead,
    I'm alive, I'm dead.
  310. That's not eternal life.
  311. For one thing, I think this.
  312. The Bible uses "life" in different ways
  313. in different places.
  314. And I don't think we want
    to take it here to mean
  315. obviously, it doesn't mean physical life.
  316. It doesn't mean if you sin,
  317. you die physically.
  318. And then God will raise you back up.
  319. Certainly it doesn't mean that.
  320. And it doesn't mean being saved
    all over again,
  321. because the guy's already a brother.
  322. It seems to indicate, like he says,
  323. it seems to indicate fellowship.
  324. Now you think with me here.
  325. Go back to 1 John 1.
  326. Somebody just begin reading 1 John 1:1.
  327. Just read until we get tired.
  328. "That which was from the beginning,
  329. which we have heard,
  330. which we have seen with our eyes,
  331. which we have looked upon
  332. and we have touched with our hands
  333. concerning the Word of Life.
  334. The life was made manifest
  335. and we have seen it and testify to it
  336. and proclaim to you the eternal life,
  337. which was with the Father
  338. and was made manifest to us.
  339. That which we have seen and heard,
  340. we proclaim also to you,
  341. so that you too may
    have fellowship with us.
  342. And indeed our fellowship
    is with the Father
  343. and with His Son Jesus Christ.
  344. And we are writing these
    things so that our joy
  345. may be complete."
  346. Right. Fellowship.
  347. Our fellowship.
  348. Brethren, I'm going to
    take my best stab at this.
  349. But I think what John means
  350. is that sin interrupts
  351. not life altogether,
  352. but if life is knowing God...
  353. Listen, Scripture's serious when it says
  354. don't grieve the Holy Spirit.
  355. Sin interrupts your life.
  356. Sin interrupts your knowing God.
  357. Just even at that level,
  358. Adam knew Eve and she conceived.
  359. At that level, if I sin against my wife,
  360. it interrupts that life on that level.
  361. If life is to know God and to know Christ,
  362. sin interrupts.
  363. It seems like the issue here is this:
  364. that if we pray for one another -
  365. brethren, I'll tell you this is big.
  366. I really think this is big.
  367. For one thing, it really helps us feel
  368. the reality of what life is all about.
  369. It really helps us feel the reality
  370. of how sin interrupts life.
  371. It really helps us feel
    how important it is
  372. to pray for other Christians that you see
  373. falling into sin.
  374. Because you think about the promise here.
  375. Life will be restored to them.
  376. The fellowship will be brought back.
  377. The sweetness will be brought back.
  378. The intimacy, the closeness.
  379. Sin interrupts our fellowship with God.
  380. We lose something.
  381. We lose a sight of the glory.
  382. We lose the face of God.
  383. He hides.
  384. That's a reality.
  385. And that's one of the
    greatest pains of sin.
  386. Look, for the Christian, it's
    not just the consequences
  387. of getting caught in my sin.
  388. A lot of times, brethren,
  389. the grief of the Christian behind sin
  390. is how it's going to affect
  391. my fellowship with the Lord.
  392. That's the heart of the true Christian.
  393. Brethren, a text like this,
  394. just think about what it says about
  395. how terrible sin is.
  396. How awful.
  397. It brings a death of sorts.
  398. Because what?
  399. It removes the smile of God.
  400. Brethren, I'll tell you this,
  401. when you read in
    Scripture about eternal death,
  402. you need to recognize
    what we're talking about.
  403. What makes death death is not the fire
  404. or the worm that never dies,
  405. or the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
  406. It is that you are so
    separated from God -
  407. that's what outer darkness means.
  408. God is light.
  409. To be in the outer darkness means
  410. you are away from His smile.
  411. Oh, you're in the presence of the Lamb
  412. and of His angels - no question.
  413. Scripture says that.
  414. You are horrifyingly in
    the presence of the Lamb.
  415. But there's no smile.
  416. There's no intimacy.
  417. There's no fellowship.
  418. That's death.
  419. That's what this says to us.
  420. And so I would say yes to Vlad,
  421. that that is right.
  422. That this has to do with relationship.
  423. This has to do with fellowship
  424. as stated in 1 John 5:16.
  425. That seems to be the only thing
  426. that you can possibly
    make sense out of this text
  427. as far as its meaning,
  428. and in the context of 1 John, I think,
  429. that it makes sense.
  430. It seems to be consistent
    with that context.
  431. Otherwise, I'm afraid you end up
  432. with some sort of doctrine
  433. you don't want to end up with.
  434. Anybody else have any comments about that
  435. or observations?
  436. But like I said before,
  437. undoubtedly a hard to understand text
  438. can result in all manner of error.
  439. But sometimes, the hard
    to understand verses
  440. can really be useful in helping us
  441. to understand...
  442. brethren, the horrible,
    foul, ugly thing that sin is
  443. and what it does to the
    smile of God in your life.
  444. What the real idea
    behind death is all about.
  445. And how critical that
    we pray for one another
  446. when we see other
    Christians falling into sin.
  447. Brethren, you see anything about me
  448. that seems less than Christlike,
  449. please pray for me.
  450. And I'm serious, because
    I know you do see that.
  451. We see those things in one another.
  452. I beg you, pray for me when you see them.
  453. (from the room)
    Can we rebuke you?
  454. You can rebuke me too, but if
    you're going to rebuke me,
  455. promise to pray for me.
  456. I'll let you rebuke me,
    if you pray for me.
  457. I'll let you rebuke me otherwise...
  458. Ok, brethren, let's pray.
  459. Father, we thank You for Your Word.
  460. Lord, we want our fellowship with You
  461. to be unhindered, unclouded;
  462. Oh, we want the smile
    of God upon our life.
  463. Lord, drive sin away from us.
  464. Lord, put a hatred within
    each one of us for it.
  465. May we detest it as
  466. the most detestable thing imaginable.
  467. Anything that would bring a cloud
  468. between You and us,
  469. Oh, what fools we are!
  470. To choose sin over You.
  471. Foolish.
  472. Deceived.
  473. Blind when we do that.
  474. How wretched that we would ever
  475. choose that which would mar
  476. our fellowship with You.
  477. Oh, Lord, we want to be wise.
  478. We want life more abundantly.
  479. Lord, give us the fullness of that life.
  480. Burden us, Lord, to pray for one another
  481. all the more.
  482. We pray in Jesus' name,
  483. Amen.