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Sometimes it's good to give up the driver's seat | Baba Shiv | TEDxStanford

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    I'm going to start
    on a slightly somber note.
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    Two thousand and seven, five years ago,
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    my wife gets diagnosed with breast cancer.
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    Stage IIB.
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    Now, looking back, the most
    harrowing part of that experience
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    was not just the hospital visits --
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    these were very painful
    for my wife, understandably so.
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    It was not even the initial shock
    of knowing that she had breast cancer
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    at just 39 years old,
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    absolutely no history
    of cancer in her family.
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    The most horrifying and agonizing part
    of the whole experience
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    was we were making decisions
    after decisions after decisions
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    that were being thrust upon us.
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    Should it be a mastectomy?
    Should it be a lumpectomy?
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    Should it be a more
    aggressive form of treatment,
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    given that it was stage IIB?
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    With all the side effects?
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    Or should it be a less
    aggressive form of treatment?
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    And these were being thrust
    upon us by the doctors.
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    Now you could ask this question,
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    why were the doctors doing this?
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    A simplistic answer would be,
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    the doctors are doing this
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    because they want to protect
    themselves legally.
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    I think that is too simplistic.
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    These are well-meaning doctors,
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    some of them have gone on
    to become very good friends.
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    They probably were simply
    following the wisdom
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    that has come down through the ages,
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    this adage that when
    you're making decisions,
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    especially decisions of importance,
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    it's best to be in charge,
    it's best to be in control,
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    it's best to be in the driver's seat.
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    And we were certainly
    in the driver's seat,
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    making all these decisions.
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    And let me tell you --
    if some of you have been there,
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    it was a most agonizing
    and harrowing experience.
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    Which got me thinking.
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    I said, is there any validity
    to this whole adage
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    that when you're making decisions,
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    it's best to take the driver's seat,
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    be in charge, be in control?
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    Or are there contexts
    where we're far better off
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    taking the passenger's seat
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    and have someone else drive?
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    For example, a trusted financial advisor,
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    could be a trusted doctor, etc.
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    And since I study human decision making,
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    I said, I'm going to run some studies
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    to find some answers.
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    And I'm going to share one
    of these studies with you today.
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    So, imagine that all of you
    are participants in the study.
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    I want to tell you that
    what you're going to do in the study is,
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    you're going to drink a cup of tea.
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    If you're wondering why, I'll tell you why
    in a few seconds from now.
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    You are going to solve
    a series of puzzles,
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    and I'm going to show you examples
    of these puzzles momentarily.
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    And the more puzzles you solve,
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    the greater the chances
    that you'll win some prizes.
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    Now, why do you have to consume the tea?
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    Why? Because it makes a lot of sense:
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    In order to solve these puzzles
    effectively, if you think about it,
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    your mind needs to be in two states
    simultaneously, right?
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    It needs to be alert,
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    for which caffeine is very good.
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    Simultaneously, it needs to be calm --
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    not agitated, calm --
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    for which chamomile is very good.
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    Now comes the between-subjects design,
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    the AB design, the AB testing.
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    So what I'm going to do is randomly
    assign you to one of two groups.
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    So imagine that there is
    an imaginary line out here,
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    so everyone here will be group A,
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    everyone out here will be group B.
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    Now, for you folks, what I'm going to do
    is I'm going to show you these two teas,
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    and I'll go ahead and ask you
    to choose your tea.
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    So you can choose whichever tea you want.
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    You can decide, what is your mental state:
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    OK, I choose the caffeinated tea,
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    I choose the chamomile tea.
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    So you're going to be in charge,
    you're going to be in control,
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    you're going to be in the driver's seat.
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    You folks, I'm going to show you
    these two teas,
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    but you don't have a choice.
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    I'm going to give you
    one of these two teas,
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    and keep in mind, I'm going
    to pick one of these two teas
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    at random for you.
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    And you know that.
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    So if you think about it,
    this is an extreme-case scenario,
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    because in the real world,
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    whenever you are taking passenger's seat,
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    very often the driver is going
    to be someone you trust,
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    an expert, etc.
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    So this is an extreme-case scenario.
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    Now, you're all going to consume the tea.
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    So imagine that you're taking the tea now,
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    we'll wait for you to finish the tea.
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    We'll give another five minutes
    for the ingredient to have its effects.
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    Now you're going to have
    30 minutes to solve 15 puzzles.
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    Here's an example of the puzzle
    you're going to solve.
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    Anyone in the audience
    want to take a stab?
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    Audience member: Pulpit!
    Baba Shiv: Whoa! OK.
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    That's cool.
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    Yeah, so what we'd do if we had
    you who gave the answer
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    as a participant,
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    we would have calibrated
    the difficulty level
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    of the puzzles to your expertise.
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    Because we want
    these puzzles to be difficult.
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    These are tricky puzzles,
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    because your first instinct
    is to say "tulip."
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    And then you have to unstick yourself.
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    Right?
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    So these have been calibrated
    to your level of expertise,
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    because we want this to be difficult,
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    and I'll tell you why, momentarily.
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    Now, here's another example.
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    Anyone? This is much more difficult.
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    Audience member: Embark.
    BS: Yeah. Wow! OK.
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    So, yeah, so this is, again, difficult.
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    You'll say "kamber," then you'll go,
    "maker," and all that,
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    and then you can unstick yourself.
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    So you have 30 minutes now
    to solve these 15 puzzles.
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    Now, the question we're asking
    here is, in terms of the outcome --
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    and it comes in the number
    of puzzles solved --
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    will you in the driver's seat
    end up solving more puzzles
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    because you are in control,
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    you could decide which tea
    you would choose,
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    or would you be better off,
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    in terms of the number of puzzles solved?
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    And, systemically, what we will show,
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    across a series of studies,
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    is that you, the passengers,
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    even though the tea
    was picked for you at random,
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    will end up solving
    more puzzles than you, the drivers.
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    We also observe another thing,
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    and that is, you folks not only
    are solving fewer puzzles,
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    you're also putting less juice
    into the task -- less effort,
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    you're less persistent, and so on.
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    How do we know that?
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    Well, we have two objective measures.
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    One is, what is the time,
    on average, you're taking
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    in attempting to solve these puzzles?
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    You will spend less time compared to you.
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    Second, you have
    30 minutes to solve these;
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    are you taking the entire 30 minutes
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    or are you giving up
    before the 30 minutes elapse?
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    You will be more likely to give up
    before the 30 minutes elapse,
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    compared to you.
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    So you're putting in less juice,
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    and therefore, the outcome:
    fewer puzzles solved.
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    That brings us now to:
    why does this happen?
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    And under what situations -- when --
    would we see this pattern of results
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    where the passenger is going to show
    better, more favorable outcomes,
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    compared to the driver?
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    It all has to do with when you face
    what I call the INCA.
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    It's an acronym that stands for the nature
    of the feedback you're getting
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    after you made the decision.
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    So if you think about it,
    in this particular puzzle task --
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    it could happen in investing
    in the stock market,
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    very volatile out there,
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    it could be the medical situation --
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    the feedback here is immediate.
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    You know the feedback,
    whether you're solving the puzzles or not.
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    Right? Second, it is negative.
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    Remember, the deck
    was stacked against you,
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    in terms of the difficulty
    level of these puzzles.
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    And this can happen in the medical domain.
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    For example, very early on
    in the treatment,
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    things are negative, the feedback,
    before things become positive.
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    Right? It can happen in the stock market.
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    Volatile stock market, getting negative
    feedback, it is also immediate.
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    And the feedback in all these cases
    is concrete, it's unambiguous;
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    you know if you've solved
    the puzzles or not.
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    Now, the added one,
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    apart from this immediacy,
    negative, this concreteness --
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    now you have a sense of agency.
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    You were responsible for your decision.
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    So what do you do?
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    You focus on the foregone option.
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    You say, you know what?
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    I should have chosen the other tea.
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    (Laughter)
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    That casts your decision in doubt,
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    reduces the confidence
    you have in the decision,
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    the confidence you have
    in the performance,
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    the performance in terms
    of solving the puzzles.
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    And therefore less juice into the task,
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    fewer puzzles solved
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    and less favorable outcomes
    compared to you folks.
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    And this can happen in the medical
    domain, if you think about it, right?
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    A patient in the driver's
    seat, for example.
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    Less juice, which means
    keeping herself or himself
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    less physically fit, physically active
    to hasten the recovery process,
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    which is what is often advocated.
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    You probably wouldn't do that.
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    And therefore, there are times
    when you're facing the INCA,
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    when the feedback is going
    to be immediate, negative, concrete
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    and you have the sense of agency,
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    where you're far better off
    taking the passenger's seat
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    and have someone else drive.
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    Now, I started off on a somber note.
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    I want to finish up on a more upbeat note.
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    It has now been five years,
    slightly more than five years,
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    and the good news, thank God,
    is that the cancer is still in remission.
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    So it all ends well.
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    But one thing I didn't mention
    was that very early on into her treatment,
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    my wife and I decided
    that we would take the passenger's seat.
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    And that made so much of a difference
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    in terms of the peace of mind
    that came with that;
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    we could focus on her recovery.
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    We let the doctors make all the decisions
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    and take the driver's seat.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Sometimes it's good to give up the driver's seat | Baba Shiv | TEDxStanford
Description:

Over the years, research has shown a counterintuitive fact about human nature: That sometimes, having too much choice makes us less happy. This may even be true when it comes to medical treatment. Baba Shiv shares a fascinating study that measures why choice opens the door to doubt, and suggests that ceding control -- especially on life-or-death decisions -- may be the best thing for us.

This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.

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