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Showing Revision 2 created 01/02/2019 by Carrie Spradlin.

  1. Okay.
  2. From Marvin,
  3. "Over the past year or so,
  4. I've been experiencing very weird dreams.
  5. I've seen angelic figures
  6. and demonic ones as well.
  7. I can hardly understand it.
  8. Lately, I've seen very large snakes
  9. in my dreams too.
  10. What's your say on these?
  11. Should I be worried?
  12. Am I getting some sort of message
  13. from the supernatural world?
  14. What exactly is this
  15. and what should I do besides pray?"
  16. Now, this one almost seems like

  17. maybe we should just deal with Marvin
  18. as to where he's at spiritually.
  19. And I wouldn't argue with that,
  20. but because the subject is dreams,
  21. and I know that in the church realm,
  22. dreams come up.
  23. People talk about dreams
  24. and people have dreams.
  25. I've been asked or I've heard
  26. somebody say that
    they had a certain dream.
  27. There are people in our church
  28. that will talk about dreams.
  29. And so let's just think scripturally.
  30. Does God ever give a dream?
  31. It's from Him - not satanic,
  32. it's God giving the dream
  33. because God means to communicate
  34. something to an individual.
  35. Does that ever happen?
  36. Old Testament?
  37. Old Testament and New Testament?
  38. Okay.
  39. So all through the Bible,
  40. we can find examples of God giving dreams.
  41. It's a God-given dream
  42. that communicates some kind of prophecy,
  43. some kind of warning,
  44. some kind of message.
  45. Give me some examples.
  46. Good - by good,
  47. I don't mean that when interpreted
  48. it actually sounded like great news,
  49. but they're good in the sense
  50. that they're God-given.
  51. Give me some examples.
  52. Old and New.
  53. (unintelligible)
  54. Pharaoh.
  55. Joseph interpreted for him.
  56. Yes, you had the cows,
  57. you had the corn stalks or wheat stalks,
  58. seven years, seven years.
  59. There's two Joseph's actually
  60. in the Bible that were pretty prominent
  61. with dreams.
  62. You had Joseph in the Old Testament
  63. and Joseph the husband of Mary
  64. in the New Testament.
  65. Very often, the Joseph
    in the New Testament
  66. was receiving dreams
    concerning what he should do
  67. as far as escaping Herod
  68. by going down to Egypt,
  69. when to come back,
  70. even taking Mary for his wife.
  71. God was very consistently speaking
  72. to Joseph the husband of Mary
  73. by way of dreams.
  74. Can anybody think of any other place
  75. in the Old Testament
  76. where dreams are fairly significant?
  77. (unintelligible)
  78. Jacob's ladder actually is a dream.
  79. And it says so specifically.
  80. Somebody said Daniel.
  81. Daniel was interpreting.
  82. He interpreted two dreams
    for Nebuchadnezzar.
  83. Can you think of any other dreams?
  84. You were talking about Jacob.
  85. Whoever mentioned Jacob,
  86. I don't know if that was exactly
  87. talking about Jacob's ladder.
  88. You know he had another dream.
  89. He had a dream about you remember
  90. when he made the deal with Laban
  91. that he would only take the striped
  92. and the spotted and the
    mottled sheep and goats?
  93. And God actually gave him a dream.
  94. And maybe that's how he knew
    that he should choose those.
  95. But you remember what he did.
  96. He took those sticks
  97. and he put stripes in them
  98. and he kind of held them up.
  99. But other dreams -
    can you think of others?
  100. What's that?
  101. (unintelligible)
  102. God said don't say
    anything to him good or bad.
  103. Don't do any harm to him.
  104. Abimelech - do you remember
    the guy Abimelech?
  105. He was like a Philistine king
  106. and he had taken Sarah.
  107. And he had a dream
  108. that said you're a dead man.
  109. And he said, "Lord, I did this
  110. in the innocence of my heart."
  111. And he had another dream
    and God came to him
  112. and said, "I know you did."
  113. Anyway, okay, good dreams.
  114. Yes, there are God-given dreams.
  115. There are good dreams.
  116. Can you think of anywhere else
  117. in the New Testament specifically,
  118. maybe not where you have
    specific examples of dreams,
  119. but where dreams
    themselves are talked about
  120. in a good way?
  121. (unintelligible)
  122. Pentecost.
  123. Basically, the fulfillment of Joel 2.
  124. Who is going to dream dreams?
  125. (from the room) young men?
  126. The who?
  127. Doesn't it say the old men?
  128. James: The old men shall dream dreams.
  129. Tim: Yeah, the old men are
    going to dream dreams.
  130. So, that's good.
  131. The Spirit moves - good dreams.
  132. How about examples of bad dreams?
  133. And by bad dreams, I mean people
  134. that refer to their dreams
  135. as having come from God,
  136. but the reality is they
    don't come from God,
  137. and the only reason they're saying
  138. that they had dreams from God
  139. is so they can set forth their lies.
  140. (unintelligible)
  141. (from the room)
  142. When Job's first friend
    is talking to him...
  143. (unintelligible)
  144. Tim: (incomplete thought)
  145. I think that that is not
    necessarily a dream.
  146. I think that may be something demonic.
  147. (unintelligible)
  148. Yeah, I'm not sure that's a dream.
  149. (unintelligible)
  150. Jude.
  151. (from the room)
  152. These people were false prophets.
  153. It gives a long description,
  154. but it says they're
    relying on their dreams.
  155. Tim: They're relying on their dreams.
  156. Right.
  157. Can you think of some place
  158. that talks about them relying
  159. on their visions?
  160. (from the room)
  161. Like when that man went to go confront
  162. King Jeroboam.
  163. (unintelligible)
  164. He preached against it
  165. and God said go back the way you came.
  166. The old prophet said an angel told me
  167. that you can come back with me.
  168. Tim: Well, I don't think
    that's a good example
  169. because he just basically made it up
  170. (incomplete thought).
  171. But I mean in the New Testament,
  172. is there some place you can think of
  173. where it talks about relying on visions?
  174. Being associated with false religion.
  175. (from the room): Revelation, right?
  176. Tim: I'm thinking
    specifically of Colossians.
  177. (unintelligible)
  178. But okay, let's look at something here.

  179. Deuteronomy 13.
  180. Let's all go here.
  181. Fifth book in the Bible.
  182. Deuteronomy 13:1,
  183. "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams
  184. arises among you and gives you
  185. a sign or a wonder..."
  186. So, here's the thing.
  187. God Himself is actually saying,
  188. when He says dreamer of dreams,
  189. you know what's interesting about this?
  190. Is He's not saying somebody
  191. that simply claims to have had a dream.
  192. He's actually saying a dreamer of dreams.
  193. My point here is this,
  194. you can actually have a dream
  195. and be able to do some supernatural things
  196. and it not be from God.
  197. "He does a sign or a wonder
  198. that he tells you comes to pass,
  199. and if he says 'let
    us go after other gods,'
  200. which you have not known,
  201. 'and let us serve them,'
  202. you shall not listen to the words
  203. of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams,
  204. for the Lord your God is testing you
  205. to know whether you love the Lord your God
  206. with all your heart, with all your soul."
  207. So you see that reality.
  208. Go to Jeremiah 23.

  209. Jeremiah deals with
    this fairly extensively.
  210. Jeremiah 23.
  211. Go down to verse 25.
  212. I like this because notice
  213. the direct comparison between dreams
  214. and the Word of God.
  215. Really today, that's
    what we're dealing with.
  216. People can talk about their dreams,
  217. but it's the Word of God that is firm.
  218. And in fact, it's the Word of God
  219. whereby those dreams
  220. need to be tested
  221. and the fruit of the individual
  222. claiming to have the dream
  223. is to be tested.
  224. If you go to 23:25,
  225. "I have heard what the prophets have said
  226. who prophesy lies in my name
  227. saying 'I have dreamed, I have dreamed.'"
  228. These guys are just liars.
  229. "How long shall there be lies
  230. in the hearts of the prophets
  231. who prophesy lies and who prophesy
  232. the deceit of their own heart,
  233. who think to make My people forget My name
  234. by their dreams that they tell one another
  235. even as their fathers
    forgot My name for Baal?"
  236. "Let the prophet who has a dream
  237. tell the dream.
  238. But let him who has My Word,
  239. speak My Word faithfully."
  240. Isn't that interesting?
    There's the comparison.
  241. "What has straw in common with wheat?"
  242. It's like the difference between
  243. the dreamer and the man that has His Word.
  244. Verse 29, "Is not My Word like fire
  245. declares the Lord, and like a hammer
  246. that breaks the rock in pieces?"
  247. Go down to v. 32,
  248. "Behold, I am against those who prophesy
  249. lying dreams declares the Lord,
  250. and who tell them and
    lead My people astray
  251. by their lies and their recklessness
  252. that I did not send them or charge them
  253. so they do not profit this people at all
  254. declares the Lord."
  255. Now, Kevin referenced the text in Jude,

  256. so I think maybe we'll finish on this one
  257. here in Jude,
  258. because I want to make some points.
  259. Jude. Right before Revelation.
  260. In verse 5,
  261. "I want to remind you
  262. although you once fully knew it,
  263. that Jesus who saved a people
  264. out of the land of Egypt
    afterward destroyed
  265. those who did not believe.
  266. The angels who did not stay within
  267. their own position of authority,
  268. but left their proper dwelling,
  269. He has kept in eternal chains
  270. under gloomy darkness
  271. until the judgment of the great day."
  272. So he's talking about judgment here
  273. and those who have
    come under His judgment.
  274. "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah
  275. and the surrounding cities
  276. which likewise indulged
    in sexual immorality
  277. and pursued unnatural desires
  278. serve as an example..."
  279. An example to who? To us.
  280. "By undergoing a
    punishment of eternal fire."
  281. Look, sexual immorality -
    this is an example to us
  282. of what God will do to us
  283. if we are involved in sexual immorality.
  284. "Yet in like manner (notice this)...
  285. in like manner..."
  286. These people are like Sodom and Gomorrah.
  287. "In like manner, these people also
  288. relying on their dreams,
  289. they defile the flesh, reject authority,
  290. blaspheme the glorious ones."
  291. And I got to thinking about this
  292. that Marvin - he's experiencing dreams.
  293. I think what I would ask
  294. a young man like this
  295. is Jude is making a connection
  296. between the people
  297. who rely on their dreams
  298. and he's talking about Sodom and Gomorrah
  299. who's an example.
  300. And then he says "in like manner,
  301. these people also
    relying on their dreams..."
  302. It's like he's weaving this together.
  303. A despising of authority
  304. and sexual immorality
  305. and relying on dreams
  306. and defiling the flesh.
  307. He's weaving this together -
  308. these people.
  309. And he says in v. 10,
  310. "They blaspheme all
    they do not understand.
  311. They're destroyed by all that they
  312. like unreasoning animals
    understand instinctively.
  313. Woe to them."
  314. I can tell you this.
  315. When you find Joseph having dreams,
  316. what does Scripture say
    about Joseph's character?
  317. What sort of man was he?
  318. What does Scripture say about Daniel?
  319. What kind of man was he?
  320. What does Scripture say
  321. about the New Testament Joseph?
  322. The husband of Mary.
  323. What kind of man was he?
  324. You know, I think you want
    to tie these together.
  325. I would ask Marvin
  326. about the connection
    with sexual immorality.
  327. I would ask him about his purity.
  328. See, he's wanting to talk about dreams.
  329. "Should I be afraid?"
  330. I would say this,
  331. if there's sexual immorality in your life,
  332. it's because of that the
    wrath of God is coming
  333. and that's what you ought to be afraid of.
  334. Having a dream of snakes?
  335. Dreams - should we put stock in dreams?
  336. Should we guide our lives by dreams?
  337. I think you want to be
    very careful of dreams.
  338. Could God speak to a person through them?
  339. There's biblical examples,
  340. but I'll tell you this,
  341. just as much as there's biblical examples
  342. of God-given dreams
  343. directing righteous men,
  344. there's also a lot of warnings
  345. concerning rotten people
  346. and false prophets and evil people
  347. that have dreams, rely on dreams,
  348. want to talk about their dreams.
  349. Dreams - where can they come from?
  350. I mean, some people will tell you
  351. if they eat right before they go to bed,
  352. they have all sorts of horrible dreams
  353. or crazy dreams.
  354. That could be one thing.
  355. There could be natural
    causes as to why you dream.
  356. We're dreaming all the time,
  357. but why sometimes we
    remember more dreams,
  358. maybe it's got to do with
    whether we're in deep sleep
  359. or not so deep sleep.
  360. Could some dreams come
    from satanic causes?
  361. Undoubtedly.
  362. Could you have dreams about snakes?
  363. If you sat and watched a movie
  364. like one of these cannibal movies
  365. or zombie movies or something,
  366. would you think it might
    affect your dreams?
  367. You know, just an illicit lifestyle
  368. could affect your dreams.
  369. What you read or think about
  370. or watch right before you go to bed
  371. may have a tremendous effect.
  372. I think the thing to ask
  373. with regards to these things
  374. is looking at the lifestyle.
  375. I think the question is
  376. concerning a young man and his life.
  377. Whether you're saved or not
  378. is the real issue.
  379. Not: should I be afraid
  380. because I have a dream about snakes?
  381. Well, the truth is I should be afraid
  382. if I'm lost.
  383. I should fear Him who can throw
  384. body and soul into hell.
  385. That's what I should fear.
  386. I mean, if I'm a Christian,
  387. and I have some crazy dream about snakes
  388. and it's a nightmare, I'm safe.
  389. If I'm lost and I have
    dreams about angels -
  390. when I was lost, I had a dream about Mary.
  391. Very comforting.
  392. I have a feeling that had
    devilishness about it.
  393. It gave me such thoughts
    of Mary that I never had -
  394. I was a nominal Catholic my whole life,
  395. but it gave me such thoughts about Mary
  396. that were warm.
  397. I felt something from that.
  398. But you know, you can have
  399. all sorts of nice feeling dreams
  400. and be lost and go to hell.
  401. You could have dreams about snakes
  402. and horrible things and go to Heaven.
  403. The nature of the dream isn't the thing.
  404. It's the character of the man
  405. that's the issue.
  406. Anything else?
  407. Anything anybody want to say about dreams?
  408. I would just say this,
  409. look, if you have somebody in the church
  410. that tells you that they had a premonition
  411. or an impression or a vision
  412. or a dream,
  413. I would just say this,
  414. be extremely careful
  415. that you not let somebody else's dream -
  416. here's one of the problems that I have.
  417. If God wants to communicate to me
  418. to take my son down to Egypt,
  419. I don't think He's going
    to give you a dream
  420. about me taking my son down to Egypt.
  421. He's going to give me a dream
  422. warning me that Herod
    wants to kill my child
  423. and so I should take him down to Egypt.
  424. I get very suspicious
  425. when you get third person people
  426. telling me they had a dream
  427. that I'm supposed to marry so-and-so.
  428. I would be extremely suspect
  429. of that kind of thing.
  430. Don't put weight in it.
  431. You will go wrong.
  432. What you want to put weight in
  433. is in the Word of God.
  434. You go to Proverbs 31.
  435. Study it out.
  436. Look at the character of a woman.
  437. Use that as your reference point.
  438. Just be very careful
  439. because there are people
  440. who even in good churches,
  441. people who will say:
  442. I had this dream.
  443. It was about you.
  444. It's almost like there's
    some meaning here.
  445. There's something you're supposed to know
  446. that's going to affect decisions
    you make in your life.
  447. (incomplete thought)
  448. Your antennas ought to go up
  449. and red flags ought to be waving all over
  450. when people tell you that.
  451. What time do we have?
  452. Okay, we've got time for one more.
  453. Anybody want to say
    anything about dreams?
  454. (from the room)
  455. (unintelligible)
  456. Matthew 24:24 -
  457. it says, "For there shall
    arise false christs
  458. and false prophets
  459. and shall show great signs and wonders,
  460. so much that if it were possible,
  461. they shall deceive the very elect."
  462. Tim: Right.
  463. If possible, they would
    deceive the very elect.
  464. But it's not possible for
    the elect to be deceived.
  465. At least, not deceived damnably.