Seeking truth: Kazakhstan’s fight against nuclear testing | Togzhan Kassenova | TEDxBeaconStreet
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0:16 - 0:19Imagine eating meat
laced with radioisotopes. -
0:19 - 0:22Imagine your kids drinking
contaminated milk. -
0:22 - 0:24Imagine the walls in your house
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0:24 - 0:27getting cracks from the earth
shaking underneath it - -
0:27 - 0:30you are so fed up,
you don't fix them anymore. -
0:31 - 0:35More than a million people in Kazakhstan
do not have to imagine. -
0:35 - 0:38They had lived through this for 40 years
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0:38 - 0:41while Kazakhstan was
part of the Soviet Union. -
0:42 - 0:45This talk today is my love letter
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0:45 - 0:47to the courage of ordinary people.
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0:47 - 0:50People who are not afraid
to tell the truth, -
0:50 - 0:52even when not convenient.
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0:53 - 0:57People who are not afraid
to challenge power, -
0:57 - 0:59to challenge oppressive regimes.
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0:59 - 1:02My stories today
are the stories of my people, -
1:02 - 1:04people of Kazakhstan,
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1:04 - 1:08and their fight to stop
nuclear tests on their land. -
1:09 - 1:11These stories have inspired me,
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1:11 - 1:14and I hope they will inspire you.
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1:14 - 1:17I hope they will serve
as a reminder to all of us -
1:17 - 1:21that we, the people, can challenge power,
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1:21 - 1:24and we can make a difference
to the course of history. -
1:25 - 1:28This is all very personal to me.
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1:28 - 1:31Kazakhstan's nuclear story
defined who I am. -
1:32 - 1:36The family of my father
lived in the city of Semipalatinsk, -
1:36 - 1:40just seventy miles away
from the nuclear test site. -
1:40 - 1:42When the Soviet Union collapsed,
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1:42 - 1:44and Kazakhstan found itself
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1:44 - 1:47with a nuclear inheritance
it did not seek, -
1:47 - 1:50more than a thousand
Soviet nuclear weapons, -
1:49 - 1:50my father,
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1:51 - 1:55at the time, the head of the country’s
first analytical institution, -
1:55 - 1:59helped the Kazakh government
to make nuclear policy decisions. -
2:01 - 2:03My father died young.
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2:04 - 2:06Eager to follow his footsteps
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2:06 - 2:10and keenly aware how
nuclear politics shaped my country, -
2:10 - 2:14I entered the field
of nuclear policy 18 years ago. -
2:14 - 2:17I'm thrilled to be part of the community
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2:18 - 2:22that works toward ridding
our planet of nuclear weapons. -
2:23 - 2:26And just like my father,
but many years later, -
2:26 - 2:28I had the honor to serve
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2:28 - 2:31as an advisor on disarmament
to the UN Secretary-General. -
2:33 - 2:36Soviet leaders rushed
to develop nuclear weapons, -
2:37 - 2:39eager to catch up with the United States.
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2:39 - 2:43To test their weapons,
they chose the land of my ancestors, -
2:43 - 2:48the region that holds sacred place
in the Kazakh consciousness. -
2:48 - 2:53Our most famous writers, poets,
intellectuals were born here. -
2:53 - 2:57It is on this land
that a nuclear test site, -
2:57 - 2:59the size of Israel, was built.
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3:03 - 3:05From ancient times,
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3:05 - 3:11endless steppe and limitless blue skies
signified freedom to Kazakh nomads. -
3:11 - 3:13Depending on the season,
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3:13 - 3:20steppe changes color from vibrant green
to golden under scorching sun in summer. -
3:21 - 3:24At the horizon, steppe meets the skies,
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3:24 - 3:27dividing what you see
in two blocks of color, -
3:27 - 3:29with nothing to obstruct the view,
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3:30 - 3:31just like a Rothko painting.
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3:32 - 3:35Before the Soviet military arrived,
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3:35 - 3:40Kazakh shepherds roamed the generous land
that provided food for their cattle. -
3:41 - 3:44Soon, the region that prided itself
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3:44 - 3:49on supplying the entire country
with the best quality meat, fresh milk - -
3:50 - 3:53raising livestock became contaminated,
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3:56 - 4:01Nuclear bombs were dropped from the skies,
just like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. -
4:02 - 4:07Nuclear mushrooms became a regular
feature of the steppe horizon. -
4:07 - 4:09Nuclear bombs also exploded
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4:09 - 4:13underneath the earth
in specially built tunnels. -
4:13 - 4:15People started to get sick.
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4:16 - 4:21Here is just one testimony from a woman
who lived in a rural settlement nearby, -
4:23 - 4:25“Nobody told us
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4:25 - 4:28about the harmfulness
of nuclear explosions. -
4:28 - 4:30Everything was secret.
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4:30 - 4:34Now I'm ill myself,
my son hanged himself, -
4:35 - 4:39and only the test site
is to blame for all my ills. -
4:41 - 4:45Every single inhabitant in our village
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4:45 - 4:48suffers the consequences
of nuclear explosions.” -
4:49 - 4:52The rise in suicides and mental illness
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4:52 - 4:57was the darkest side of the human tragedy
unfolded in the Kazakh steppe. -
4:58 - 5:02Suicide was previously
such an alien concept to Kazakhs, -
5:02 - 5:04they didn’t even have a word for it.
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5:04 - 5:06The military, of course,
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5:06 - 5:11denied that the tests
were doing any harm to local people. -
5:12 - 5:16They blamed the deteriorating
health of locals -
5:16 - 5:19on living conditions and poor diet.
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5:20 - 5:23The Soviet government
fully controlled the narrative. -
5:23 - 5:27Nuclear scientists were not allowed
to talk about their work; -
5:27 - 5:32doctors were not allowed to diagnose
any radiation-related illnesses. -
5:33 - 5:37In this atmosphere
of full control from Moscow, -
5:38 - 5:42scientists from Kazakhstan
launched a medical expedition -
5:42 - 5:45to examine the health of people
who lived near the test site. -
5:47 - 5:50Those scientists worked
for the Institute of Regional Pathology, -
5:50 - 5:53part of the Kazakh Academy of Sciences.
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5:55 - 5:56For three years,
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5:56 - 5:58in the late 1950s,
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5:58 - 6:02they painstakingly examined
thousands of people, -
6:02 - 6:05going from one village to another.
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6:06 - 6:09Those were courageous men and women.
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6:09 - 6:12They truthfully recorded what they saw.
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6:13 - 6:18And their account
is a very clinical record. -
6:19 - 6:21It's full of medical jargon,
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6:21 - 6:23but let me tell you,
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6:23 - 6:25if you read the dry text
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6:25 - 6:30and picture the innocent people
behind the abstract data points, -
6:30 - 6:32it will break your heart.
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6:35 - 6:38Blood did not circulate properly
in people’s brains. -
6:39 - 6:43Those who were exposed long-term
to high amounts of radioactivity -
6:44 - 6:47lost their sense of smell and taste.
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6:47 - 6:50The neurological pathologies
made people tired, -
6:50 - 6:52caused dizziness and headaches.
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6:52 - 6:55Many locals were losing
their swallowing reflex, -
6:55 - 7:00the body's important defense mechanism
against choking on food. -
7:01 - 7:04Those scientists
were summoned to Moscow, -
7:04 - 7:08where the representatives
of the military medical establishment -
7:08 - 7:11argued with them,
dismissing their findings. -
7:12 - 7:14Under pressure from the military,
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7:14 - 7:18further efforts of the Kazakh
scientists were suspended. -
7:19 - 7:23The Soviet government
classified their data, -
7:23 - 7:27and for decades that data
was unavailable to public. -
7:27 - 7:30That was the time
of information suppression - -
7:30 - 7:33nobody was supposed to know the truth.
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7:34 - 7:35Decades later,
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7:35 - 7:38I found myself in the library
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7:38 - 7:40of the Kazakh Academy
of Sciences in Almaty, -
7:41 - 7:43and I was holding in my hands
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7:43 - 7:47the original documents
from that medical expedition. -
7:48 - 7:49Chill ran down my spine,
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7:49 - 7:52and my entire body
was covered in goosebumps, -
7:53 - 7:57not only from the profound sadness
I felt for my people -
7:58 - 8:02that they had to suffer
through these ailments -
8:02 - 8:03through no fault of their own,
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8:04 - 8:06but from the realization
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8:06 - 8:10that any of these authors
could have been accused of state treason. -
8:11 - 8:12They were recording
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8:12 - 8:17how the country’s most important
national security project -
8:17 - 8:20was ruining the health
of their countrymen. -
8:20 - 8:23I will never forget
the emotions I felt that day, -
8:23 - 8:27and I will never forget
the courage of those scientists. -
8:28 - 8:33What this story represents to me
is the search for truth, -
8:34 - 8:38even when confronted
by a repressive regime. -
8:39 - 8:44For decades, people
in the Semipalatinsk region -
8:44 - 8:45continued to live
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8:45 - 8:48under the dark cloud of nuclear tests.
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8:48 - 8:51They tried to make politicians hear them,
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8:51 - 8:52to no avail.
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8:52 - 8:56Their anger, fueled
by pain, reached its peak, -
8:57 - 9:02and finally, a window of opportunity
to act opened up for them. -
9:02 - 9:04It was late 1980s -
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9:04 - 9:08nobody yet could have predicted
the Soviet Union would collapse. -
9:08 - 9:09I was too young
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9:09 - 9:16and only have very vague recollections
of that particular moment in history, -
9:16 - 9:19but I remember the wind of change we felt
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9:19 - 9:23when a new Soviet leader,
Mikhail Gorbachev, came to power. -
9:23 - 9:25He allowed more political freedom,
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9:26 - 9:31but that freedom also uncovered
the depth of the Soviet Union’s decay. -
9:32 - 9:34The Soviet republics
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9:35 - 9:37and their frustration
of the Soviet republics -
9:37 - 9:38with the Moscow rule
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9:38 - 9:41could not be contained any longer.
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9:41 - 9:45In Kazakhstan, that frustration
manifested itself -
9:46 - 9:49in massive protests against nuclear tests.
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9:50 - 9:53So it was February of 1989
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9:53 - 9:58when yet another underground nuclear test
rocked the Kazakh land. -
9:58 - 10:00As the result of the test,
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10:00 - 10:03radioactive gas escaped
from underneath the earth - -
10:03 - 10:04nothing unusual,
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10:04 - 10:06it happened so many times before -
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10:06 - 10:08but this time,
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10:08 - 10:09because the Soviet government
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10:09 - 10:13could no longer fully control
the information flow, -
10:13 - 10:15this news became public.
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10:16 - 10:20A charismatic Kazakh poet,
Olzhas Suleimenov, -
10:20 - 10:24went on national TV and appealed
to the people of Kazakhstan -
10:24 - 10:27to rally against nuclear tests.
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10:28 - 10:33Three days later, 5,000 people
showed up at the Writers House, -
10:33 - 10:36a gathering place for literary
professionals in Almaty. -
10:37 - 10:39The hall couldn't even hold everyone,
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10:39 - 10:42and thousands stood
outside in the winter chill. -
10:44 - 10:48The energy that day in that hall
was galvanizing, -
10:49 - 10:52and the world's most massive
public movement -
10:52 - 10:55against nuclear tests was born.
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10:55 - 10:58They called it Nevada-Semipalatinsk.
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10:59 - 11:00Kazakhs added Nevada
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11:00 - 11:05because they wanted to feel connected
with the downwinders in the United States -
11:05 - 11:09who were fighting to stop nuclear tests
at the Nevada Test Site. -
11:11 - 11:16Millions of people of Kazakhstan
joined the Nevada-Semipalatinsk movement. -
11:17 - 11:20On the ground in the Semipalatinsk region,
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11:20 - 11:23a courageous local leader,
Keshrim Boztaeyv, -
11:23 - 11:25appealed to Gorbachev,
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11:25 - 11:28asking him to stop
nuclear tests in his region. -
11:29 - 11:32From Almaty, the president of Kazakhstan,
Nursultan Nazarbayev, -
11:32 - 11:33appealed to Moscow,
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11:33 - 11:36asking to spare his nation
from continued tests. -
11:38 - 11:42One expects action
from leaders; it is their duty. -
11:42 - 11:45What moves me most in this story
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11:45 - 11:49is the courage and determination
of regular people - -
11:50 - 11:52people who marched for months,
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11:52 - 11:55showed up in thousands to rallies -
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11:55 - 11:57uniting for one common goal:
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11:57 - 11:59to stop nuclear tests.
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12:02 - 12:05People were reclaiming their land.
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12:05 - 12:07They were standing up for their lives.
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12:07 - 12:10Kazakh steppe was alive again.
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12:13 - 12:15The Nevada-Semipalatinsk movement
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12:15 - 12:16became truly global.
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12:16 - 12:21In 1990, about 80 Americans
came to Kazakhaztan, -
12:21 - 12:24as well as Russians and Japanese.
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12:24 - 12:29Among Americans, there were members
of the Shoshone tribe of Nevada, -
12:29 - 12:31downwinders from Utah.
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12:33 - 12:39And they all came to support Kazakhs
in the International Peace March, -
12:40 - 12:42and so, more than 200 of them
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12:43 - 12:48traveled through Kazakhstan
by planes, buses, and on foot, -
12:48 - 12:50stopping in villages and cities.
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12:50 - 12:54In places where there were not
enough buildings to house everyone, -
12:54 - 12:59this international crowd put up the tents
and slept under the open sky. -
13:01 - 13:05Meanwhile, the Soviet Union
was collapsing under its own weight. -
13:05 - 13:08Military leaders in Moscow
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13:08 - 13:10had to reduce the number
of tests in Kazakhstan -
13:10 - 13:12because of this public protest,
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13:12 - 13:15but they were not planning to stop,
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13:15 - 13:17at least not well into the '90s,
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13:18 - 13:22and they were putting pressure
on the Kazakh government to accept that. -
13:22 - 13:24Entire Kazakhstan
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13:24 - 13:27including the political establishments,
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13:27 - 13:28but, more importantly,
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13:28 - 13:30people did not succumb.
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13:30 - 13:32People continued to march,
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13:32 - 13:34people continued to protest,
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13:35 - 13:40and finally, the tireless fight
of millions of people of Kazakhstan -
13:40 - 13:42culminated in their victory.
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13:42 - 13:45On August 29th of 1991,
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13:45 - 13:50Kazakhstan shut down the Semipalatinsk
Nuclear Test Site forever. -
13:50 - 13:51A few -
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13:51 - 13:52(Applause)
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13:52 - 13:53Thank you.
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13:53 - 13:56(Applause)
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13:59 - 14:02A few months later,
the Soviet Union collapsed, -
14:02 - 14:05and Kazakhstan found itself
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14:05 - 14:08with more than a thousand
Soviet nuclear weapons. -
14:08 - 14:11If you look at other countries
that are dying to have nuclear weapons, -
14:11 - 14:13you would assume
they would want to keep them, -
14:13 - 14:18but no, Kazakhstan chose to get rid
of those nuclear weapons, -
14:18 - 14:20to a large extent
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14:20 - 14:22because of its experience
with the nuclear tests. -
14:23 - 14:25So I want to leave you with this:
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14:26 - 14:32If you have a choice to tell the truth,
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14:32 - 14:34please tell it!
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14:34 - 14:36Like those scientists in Kazakhstan did.
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14:36 - 14:41If you have an opportunity
to act on your civic duties, -
14:41 - 14:42please act on it.
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14:42 - 14:45Like millions of people of Kazakhstan did
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14:45 - 14:48when they fought against nuclear tests.
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14:49 - 14:52We can make a difference
to the course of history. -
14:53 - 14:56We are the makers of our own destiny.
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14:56 - 14:57Thank you.
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14:57 - 15:00(Applause)
- Title:
- Seeking truth: Kazakhstan’s fight against nuclear testing | Togzhan Kassenova | TEDxBeaconStreet
- Description:
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In this inspiring talk, Togzhan Kassenova uses poignant stories from Kazakhstan’s history as a Soviet Union nuclear test site to encourage humanity to seek truth and act, even in the face of an oppressive political system.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
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- Duration:
- 15:08