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Question: How to reach the youth culture?
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Steve: The student minister asked,
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how do we reach college students
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and these two extremes?
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And I'm sure the secret is
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there is no secret.
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It's the reality of the
power of the Gospel
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and the reality and the power
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of the Person and work of Christ
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unleashed by His Spirit from the Scripture
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upon the lives of students.
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And the fact is,
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so many of these students are unconverted.
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And their parents are wanting them to come
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and they're not saved,
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so they don't have a new mind,
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they don't have a new heart.
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They have a heart of stone
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that's resistant to the things of God.
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Their eyes are blind. Their ears are deaf.
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So most churches just resort to
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a bowling alley or a concert or whatever
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just to entertain them.
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And that's a very challenging
position to be in, Mackie,
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because you get a mom and a dad saved
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and they come to church,
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but all their kids are not necessarily
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yet regenerate.
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And how you hold their attention,
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I think you just have to,
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by the grace of God,
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every time you are with them
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and you minister to them,
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again, I don't think there's any secret.
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I think you just have
to have such a reality
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of the living Christ in your own life
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and in your teaching and in your preaching
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and in your love and
your outreach to them,
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and pray that God in His sovereignty
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will lay hold of them
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and arrest their attention.
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But I just refuse to turn this into
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a glorified club.
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And I totally understand
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a neo-Puritanical -
I'm interested in that,
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but they're not interested in that.
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And I understand that. I wasn't either
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when I was that age.
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But I remember when I was in high school,
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I grew up in a liberal Methodist church.
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I never even heard a Bible message.
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My parents led me to Christ
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and I had enough there that I was saved,
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but I remember in high school
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going to certain ministries
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outside of my church,
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that when I saw and heard
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and felt the reality of what was going on
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in those circles,
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my heart was just drawn to that.
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I remember just meeting
in living rooms like this
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and little parachurch ministry things.
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And it was so simple.
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Someone stood up and led us in singing,
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and there was a Bible message.
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And there were snacks
afterwards in the kitchen.
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It was simple, but it was authentic.
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It was real.
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I think that somewhere in that
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is the reality of first
century Christianity.
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And it may not succeed.
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And I'll have to accept that.
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I can't adjust the course for this ship
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if people are not hopping on board,
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but I don't have a martyr's complex.
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I'm not trying to shrink this.
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I'm wanting to enlarge this.
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I have a positive approach,
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but it's just who we are and what we are
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and it's like there is
no other play to call.
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I mean, either God's going
to get them on board,
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or they're just not going to be on board,
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but we're not going to
become a different ship
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and cater to this.
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I would try to get the parents involved.
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And I'm coming right back to you -
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I'd try to get the parents involved
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and have their emotional support -
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not just be dropping them here,
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but to reinforce what we're doing
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as best we can.
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But really, what works in big church
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is what works in little church
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just with some adapting.
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But that's a tough question.
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Everybody I think around the country
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is wrestling with that.
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And yeah, there is this
kind of new movement
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within reformed circles -
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the young, restless, and reformed
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and wanting to be salty
and edgy and crass.
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I'm not going down that path.
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I think there is a standard of holiness
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and purity and integrity
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that we've got to maintain.
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And I'm not trying to be
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a shock jock with young people
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where I've got to shock them
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by my edginess to get them interested.
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The power is in the Gospel.
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It's in the message, not in the messenger.