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How to get back to work after a career break | Carol Fishman Cohen | TEDxBeaconStreet

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    People returning to work
    after a career break:
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    I call them relaunchers.
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    These are people who have taken
    career breaks for elder care,
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    for childcare reasons,
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    pursuing a personal interest,
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    or a personal health issue.
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    Closely related are
    career transitioners of all kinds:
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    veterans, military spouses,
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    retirees coming out of retirement,
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    or repatriating expats.
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    Returning to work
    after a career break is hard
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    because of a disconnect
    between the employers
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    and the relaunchers.
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    Employers can view hiring people
    with a gap on their resume
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    as a high-risk proposition,
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    and individuals on career break
    can have doubts about their abilities
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    to relaunch their careers,
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    especially if they've been out
    for a long time.
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    This disconnect is a problem
    that I'm trying to help solve.
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    Now, successful relaunchers
    are everywhere and in every field.
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    This is Sami Kafala.
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    He's a nuclear physicist in the UK
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    who took a five-year career break
    to be home with his five children.
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    The Singapore press recently wrote
    about nurses returning to work
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    after long career breaks.
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    And speaking of long career breaks,
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    this is Mimi Kahn.
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    She's a social worker
    in Orange County, California,
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    who returned to work
    in a social services organization
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    after a 25-year career break.
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    That's the longest career break
    that I'm aware of.
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    Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor
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    took a five-year career break
    early in her career.
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    And this is Tracy Shapiro,
    who took a 13-year career break.
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    Tracy answered a call for essays
    by the Today Show
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    from people who were trying
    to return to work
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    but having a difficult time of it.
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    Tracy wrote in that she was a mom of five
    who loved her time at home,
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    but she had gone through a divorce
    and needed to return to work,
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    plus she really wanted
    to bring work back into her life
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    because she loved working.
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    Tracy was doing what so many of us do
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    when we feel like we've put in
    a good day in the job search.
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    She was looking for a finance
    or accounting role,
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    and she had just spent
    the last nine months
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    very diligently researching
    companies online
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    and applying for jobs with no results.
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    I met Tracy in June of 2011,
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    when the Today Show asked me
    if I could work with her
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    to see if I could help her
    turn things around.
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    The first thing I told Tracy
    was she had to get out of the house.
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    I told her she had to go public
    with her job search
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    and tell everyone she knew
    about her interest in returning to work.
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    I also told her, "You are going
    to have a lot of conversations
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    that don't go anywhere.
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    Expect that, and don't
    be discouraged by it.
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    There will be a handful
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    that ultimately lead
    to a job opportunity."
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    I'll tell you what happened
    with Tracy in a little bit,
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    but I want to share with you
    a discovery that I made
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    when I was returning to work
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    after my own career break of 11 years
    out of the full-time workforce,
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    and that is, that people's view of you
    is frozen in time.
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    What I mean by this is,
    when you start to get in touch with people
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    and you get back in touch
    with those people from the past,
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    the people with whom you worked
    or went to school,
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    they are going to remember you as you were
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    before your career break,
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    and that's even if your sense of self
    has diminished over time,
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    as happens with so many of us
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    the farther removed we are
    from our professional identities.
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    So for example,
    you might think of yourself
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    as someone who looks like this.
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    This is me, crazy after a day
    of driving around in my minivan.
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    Or here I am in the kitchen.
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    But those people from the past,
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    they don't know about any of this.
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    They only remember you as you were,
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    and it's a great confidence boost
    to be back in touch with these people
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    and hear their enthusiasm
    about your interest in returning to work.
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    There's one more thing I remember vividly
    from my own career break,
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    and that was that I hardly kept up
    with the business news.
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    My background is in finance,
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    and I hardly kept up with any news
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    when I was home caring
    for my four young children,
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    so I was afraid I'd go into an interview
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    and start talking about a company
    that didn't exist anymore.
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    So I had to resubscribe
    to the Wall Street Journal
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    and read it for a good six months
    cover to cover before I felt
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    like I had a handle on what was going on
    in the business world again.
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    I believe relaunchers
    are a gem of the workforce,
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    and here's why.
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    Think about our life stage:
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    for those of us who took career breaks
    for childcare reasons,
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    we have fewer or no maternity leaves.
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    We did that already.
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    We have fewer spousal
    or partner job relocations.
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    We're in a more settled time of life.
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    We have great work experience.
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    We have a more mature perspective.
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    We're not trying to find ourselves
    at an employer's expense.
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    Plus we have an energy,
    an enthusiasm about returning to work
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    precisely because we've been
    away from it for a while.
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    On the flip side, I speak with employers,
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    and here are two concerns
    that employers have
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    about hiring relaunchers.
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    The first one is, employers
    are worried that relaunchers
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    are technologically obsolete.
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    Now, I can tell you,
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    having been technologically
    obsolete myself at one point,
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    that it's a temporary condition.
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    I had done my financial analysis
    so long ago that I used Lotus 1-2-3.
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    I don't know if anyone
    can even remember back that far,
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    but I had to relearn it on Excel.
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    It actually wasn't that hard.
    A lot of the commands are the same.
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    I found PowerPoint much more challenging,
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    but now I use PowerPoint all the time.
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    I tell relaunchers that employers
    expect them to come to the table
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    with a working knowledge
    of basic office management software,
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    and if they're not up to speed,
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    then it's their
    responsibility to get there.
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    And they do.
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    The second area of concern
    that employers have about relaunchers
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    is they're worried that relaunchers
    don't know what they want to do.
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    I tell relaunchers that they need
    to do the hard work
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    to figure out whether their interests
    and skills have changed
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    or have not changed
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    while they have been on career break.
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    That's not the employer's job.
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    It's the relauncher's responsibility
    to demonstrate to the employer
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    where they can add the most value.
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    Back in 2010 I started noticing something.
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    I had been tracking
    return to work programs since 2008,
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    and in 2010, I started noticing
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    the use of a short-term
    paid work opportunity,
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    whether it was called
    an internship or not,
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    but an internship-like experience,
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    as a way for professionals
    to return to work.
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    I saw Goldman Sachs and Sara Lee
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    start corporate reentry
    internship programs.
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    I saw a returning engineer,
    a nontraditional reentry candidate,
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    apply for an entry-level
    internship program in the military,
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    and then get a permanent job afterward.
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    I saw two universities
    integrate internships
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    into mid-career executive
    education programs.
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    So I wrote a report
    about what I was seeing,
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    and it became this article
    for Harvard Business Review
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    called "The 40-Year-Old Intern."
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    I have to thank the editors
    there for that title,
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    and also for this artwork
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    where you can see the 40-year-old intern
    in the midst of all the college interns.
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    And then, courtesy of Fox Business News,
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    they called the concept
    "The 50-Year-Old Intern."
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    (Laughter)
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    So five of the biggest
    financial services companies
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    have reentry internship programs
    for returning finance professionals,
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    and at this point,
    hundreds of people have participated.
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    These internships are paid,
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    and the people who move on
    to permanent roles
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    are commanding competitive salaries.
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    And now, seven of the biggest
    engineering companies
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    are piloting reentry internship programs
    for returning engineers
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    as part of an initiative
    with the Society of Women Engineers.
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    Now, why are companies embracing
    the reentry internship?
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    Because the internship allows the employer
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    to base their hiring decision
    on an actual work sample
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    instead of a series of interviews,
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    and the employer does not have to make
    that permanent hiring decision
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    until the internship period is over.
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    This testing out period
    removes the perceived risk
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    that some managers attach
    to hiring relaunchers,
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    and they are attracting
    excellent candidates
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    who are turning into great hires.
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    Think about how far we have come.
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    Before this, most employers
    were not interested
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    in engaging with relaunchers at all,
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    but now, not only
    are programs being developed
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    specifically with relaunchers in mind,
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    but you can't even apply
    for these programs
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    unless you have a gap on your rĂŠsumĂŠ.
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    This is the mark of real change,
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    of true institutional shift,
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    because if we can solve
    this problem for relaunchers,
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    we can solve it for other
    career transitioners too.
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    In fact, an employer just told me
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    that their veterans return to work program
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    is based on their reentry
    internship program.
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    And there's no reason why there can't be
    a retiree internship program.
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    Different pool, same concept.
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    So let me tell you
    what happened with Tracy Shapiro.
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    Remember that she had to tell
    everyone she knew
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    about her interest in returning to work.
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    Well, one critical conversation
    with another parent in her community
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    led to a job offer for Tracy,
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    and it was an accounting job
    in a finance department.
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    But it was a temp job.
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    The company told her
    there was a possibility
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    it could turn into something more,
    but no guarantees.
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    This was in the fall of 2011.
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    Tracy loved this company,
    and she loved the people
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    and the office was less
    than 10 minutes from her house.
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    So even though she had a second job offer
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    at another company
    for a permanent full-time role,
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    she decided to take her chances
    with this internship
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    and hope for the best.
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    Well, she ended up blowing away
    all of their expectations,
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    and the company not only
    made her a permanent offer
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    at the beginning of 2012,
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    but they made it even more
    interesting and challenging,
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    because they knew what Tracy could handle.
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    Fast forward to 2015,
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    Tracy's been promoted.
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    They've paid for her
    to get her MBA at night.
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    She's even hired another relauncher
    for work for her.
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    Tracy's temp job was a tryout,
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    just like an internship,
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    and it ended up being a win
    for both Tracy and her employer.
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    Now, my goal is to bring
    the reentry internship concept
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    to more and more employers,
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    but in the meantime,
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    if you are returning to work
    after a career break,
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    don't hesitate to suggest an internship
    or an internship-like arrangement
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    to an employer that does not have
    a formal reentry internship program.
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    Be their first success story,
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    and you can be the example
    for more relaunchers to come.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
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