Technology's epic story | Kevin Kelly | TEDxAmsterdam
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0:09 - 0:12It is a delight to be here.
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0:12 - 0:15I worked on my speech
at 4 in the morning last night. -
0:15 - 0:16(Laughter)
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0:16 - 0:19And I think it's part
of this criptic code. -
0:20 - 0:22I want to talk about technology.
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0:22 - 0:25Technology surround us, it's everywhere,
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0:25 - 0:27it fills our lives,
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0:27 - 0:30a lot of us work
at making more tachnology. -
0:30 - 0:34The first [letter]
of this conference, TED, -
0:34 - 0:36stands for technology.
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0:36 - 0:39And yet, I don't think we really know
what it is. -
0:39 - 0:42I want to talk about my investigations
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0:42 - 0:46into what technology means in our lives -
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0:46 - 0:49not just our immediate life,
but in the cosmic sense, -
0:49 - 0:52in the kind of long history of the world
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0:52 - 0:55and our place in the world:
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0:55 - 0:57What is this stuff?
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0:57 - 0:59What is the significance?
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0:59 - 1:01And so, I want to kind of go through
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1:01 - 1:03my little story of what I found out.
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1:03 - 1:06And one of the first things
that I started to investigate was -
1:06 - 1:09the history of the name of technology.
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1:09 - 1:12And in the United States
there is a State of the Union address -
1:12 - 1:14given by every president since 1790.
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1:14 - 1:20So we have 220
State of the Union addresses. -
1:20 - 1:23And each one of those is really kind of
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1:23 - 1:25summing up the most important things
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1:25 - 1:27for the United States at that time.
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1:27 - 1:30If you search for the word "technology,"
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1:30 - 1:33it was not used until 1952.
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1:34 - 1:37So, technology was sort of absent
from everybody's thinking -
1:37 - 1:40until 1952, which happened to be
the year of my birth. -
1:40 - 1:41And obviously, technology
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1:41 - 1:44had existed before then,
but we weren't aware of it, -
1:44 - 1:46and so it was sort of an awakening
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1:46 - 1:49of this force in our life.
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1:50 - 1:55I actually did research to find that
the first use of the word "technology" -
1:55 - 1:57was in 1829,
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1:57 - 2:01and it was invented by a guy
who was starting a curriculum, -
2:02 - 2:03a course, bringing together all the kinds
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2:04 - 2:06of arts and crafts, and industry -
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2:06 - 2:08and he called it "Technology."
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2:08 - 2:10And that's the very first use of the word.
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2:11 - 2:15Obviously this thing in our life
has been going on a lot earlier. -
2:15 - 2:17So, what is this stuff
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2:17 - 2:20that we're all consumed by,
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2:20 - 2:22and bothered by?
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2:22 - 2:24Alan Kay calls it, "Technology is anything
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2:24 - 2:27that was invented after you were born."
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2:27 - 2:28(Laughter)
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2:28 - 2:32Which is sort of the idea that we
normally have about what technology is: -
2:32 - 2:34It's all that new stuff.
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2:34 - 2:36It's not roads, or penicillin,
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2:36 - 2:40or factory tires; it's the new stuff.
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2:40 - 2:43My friend Danny Hillis
says kind of a similar one, -
2:43 - 2:46he says, "Technology is anything
that doesn't work yet." -
2:46 - 2:48Which is, again, a sense
that it's all new. -
2:48 - 2:50But we know that it's just not new.
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2:50 - 2:52It actually goes way back,
and what I want to suggest -
2:52 - 2:56is it goes a long way back.
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2:56 - 2:58So, another way to think about technology,
what it means, -
2:58 - 3:00is to imagine a world without technology.
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3:00 - 3:04If we were to eliminate every single bit
of technology in the world today - -
3:04 - 3:05and I mean everything,
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3:05 - 3:09from blades to scrapers to cloth -
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3:09 - 3:12we as a species would not live very long.
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3:12 - 3:15We would die by the billions,
and very quickly: -
3:17 - 3:20The wolves would get us,
we would be defenseless, -
3:20 - 3:23we would be unable to grow enough food,
or find enough food. -
3:23 - 3:27Even the hunter-gatherers
used some elementary tools. -
3:27 - 3:29And so, they had minimal technology,
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3:29 - 3:31but they had some technology.
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3:31 - 3:34And if we study those
hunter-gatherer tribes -
3:34 - 3:38and the Neanderthal,
which are very similar to early man, -
3:38 - 3:42we find out a very curious thing
about this world without technology, -
3:42 - 3:44and this is a kind of a curve
of their average age. -
3:44 - 3:48There are no Neanderthal fossils
that are older than 40 years old -
3:49 - 3:50that we've ever found,
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3:50 - 3:52and the average age of most of these
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3:52 - 3:55hunter-gatherer tribes is 20 to 30.
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3:55 - 3:58There are very few young infants
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3:58 - 4:01because they die - high mortality rate
- and there's very few old people. -
4:01 - 4:05And so the profile is sort of for your
average San Francisco neighborhood: -
4:05 - 4:06a lot of young people.
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4:06 - 4:09And if you go there, you say,
"Hey, everybody's really healthy." -
4:09 - 4:11Well, that's because they're all young.
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4:11 - 4:14And the same thing with
the hunter-gatherer tribes and early man -
4:14 - 4:16is that you didn't live
beyond the age of 30. -
4:16 - 4:18So, it was a world without grandparents.
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4:18 - 4:20And grandparents are very important,
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4:20 - 4:23because they are the transmitter
of cultural evolution and information. -
4:23 - 4:26Imagine a world and basically
everybody was 20 to 30 years old. -
4:26 - 4:28How much learning can you do?
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4:28 - 4:31You can't do very much
learning in your own life, -
4:31 - 4:32it's so short,
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4:32 - 4:35and there's nobody to pass on
what you do learn. -
4:36 - 4:37So, that's one aspect.
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4:37 - 4:39It was a very short life.
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4:39 - 4:42But at the same time anthropologists know
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4:42 - 4:44that most hunter-gatherer tribes
of the world, -
4:44 - 4:47with that very little technology,
actually did not spend -
4:47 - 4:50a very long time gathering the food
that they needed: -
4:50 - 4:52three to six hours a day.
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4:52 - 4:56Some anthropologists call that
the original affluent society. -
4:57 - 4:59Because they had banker hours basically.
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4:59 - 5:03So, it was possible to get enough food.
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5:04 - 5:05But when the scarcity came
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5:06 - 5:08when the highs and lows
and the droughts came, -
5:08 - 5:10then people went into starvation.
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5:10 - 5:12And that's why they didn't live very long.
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5:13 - 5:14So, what technology brought,
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5:14 - 5:19through the very simple tools
like these stone tools here - -
5:20 - 5:21even something as small as this -
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5:22 - 5:24the early bands of humans
were actually able -
5:24 - 5:26to eliminate to extinction
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5:26 - 5:30about 250 megafauna animals
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5:30 - 5:34in North America when they first arrived
10,000 years ago. -
5:34 - 5:37So, within several generations,
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5:37 - 5:39a couple thousands of years,
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5:39 - 5:43that little bit of technology
eliminated all those animals, -
5:43 - 5:46so we've been actually affecting
the planet on a grand scale -
5:46 - 5:48from a very early age.
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5:51 - 5:53So, long before the industrial age
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5:54 - 5:56we've been affecting the planet
on a global scale, -
5:56 - 5:58with just a small amount of technology.
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5:58 - 6:01The other thing
that the early man invented was fire. -
6:02 - 6:04And fire was used to clear out, and again,
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6:05 - 6:08affected the ecology of grass
and whole continents, -
6:08 - 6:10and was used in cooking.
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6:11 - 6:13It enabled us to actually eat
all kinds of things. -
6:13 - 6:16It was sort of, in a certain sense,
in a McLuhan sense, -
6:16 - 6:17an external stomach,
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6:17 - 6:21in the sense that it was cooking food
that we could not eat otherwise. -
6:21 - 6:24And if we don't have fire,
we actually could not live. -
6:24 - 6:27Our bodies have adapted
to these new diets. -
6:28 - 6:30Our bodies have changed
in the last 10,000 years. -
6:30 - 6:33So, with that little bit of technology,
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6:33 - 6:36humans went from a small band
of 10,000 or so - -
6:36 - 6:38the same number
as Neanderthals everywhere - -
6:38 - 6:39and we suddenly exploded.
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6:40 - 6:42With the invention of language
around 50,000 years ago, -
6:42 - 6:44the number of humans exploded,
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6:44 - 6:47and very quickly became
the dominant species on the planet. -
6:47 - 6:50And they migrated into the rest
of the world at two kilometers per year -
6:50 - 6:53until, within several
tens of thousands of years, -
6:54 - 6:56we occupied every single
watershed on the planet -
6:56 - 6:58and became the most dominant species,
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6:58 - 6:59with a very small amount of technology.
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7:00 - 7:02And even at that time,
with the introduction of agriculture, -
7:02 - 7:048,000, 10,000 years ago
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7:04 - 7:06we started to see climate change.
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7:06 - 7:08So, climate change is not a new thing.
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7:08 - 7:10What's new is just the degree of it.
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7:10 - 7:13Even during the agricultural age
there was climate change. -
7:14 - 7:16And so, already small amounts
of technology -
7:16 - 7:17were transforming the world.
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7:18 - 7:20And what this means,
and where I'm going, -
7:20 - 7:23is that technology has become
the most powerful force in the world. -
7:24 - 7:25All the things that we see today
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7:26 - 7:28that are changing our lives,
we can always trace back -
7:28 - 7:30to the introduction
of some new technology. -
7:30 - 7:33So, it's a force
that is the most powerful force -
7:34 - 7:36that has been unleashed on this planet,
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7:37 - 7:41and in such a degree that I think
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7:41 - 7:45that it's become who we are.
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7:46 - 7:50In fact, our humanity, and everything
that we think about ourselves -
7:50 - 7:51is something that we've invented.
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7:51 - 7:53So, we've invented ourselves.
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7:53 - 7:55Of all the animals
that we have domesticated, -
7:55 - 7:57the most important animal
that we've domesticated -
7:57 - 7:58has been us. Okay?
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7:58 - 8:01So, humanity is our greatest invention.
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8:02 - 8:03But of course we're not done yet.
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8:04 - 8:07We're still inventing, and this is
what technology is allowing us to do - -
8:07 - 8:09it's continually to reinvent ourselves.
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8:10 - 8:12It's a very, very strong force.
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8:12 - 8:15I call this entire thing -
us humans as our technology, -
8:15 - 8:19everything that we've made,
gadgets in our lives - -
8:19 - 8:20we call that the technium.
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8:20 - 8:22That's this world.
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8:23 - 8:25My working definition of technology
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8:25 - 8:28is "anything useful
that a human mind makes." -
8:29 - 8:34It's not just hammers and gadgets,
like laptops. -
8:34 - 8:35But it's also law.
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8:36 - 8:38The system of law is a kind of technology.
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8:38 - 8:43And of course cities are ways
to make things more useful to us. -
8:44 - 8:48But - and this is the point of my talk -
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8:48 - 8:51While this is something
that comes from our mind, -
8:51 - 8:53it also has its roots deeply
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8:53 - 8:55into the cosmos.
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8:55 - 8:57It goes back.
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8:57 - 8:59The origins and roots of technology
go back to the Big Bang, -
8:59 - 9:03in this way, in that they are part of this
self-organizing thread -
9:03 - 9:05that starts at the Big Bang
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9:05 - 9:08and goes through galaxies and stars,
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9:08 - 9:10into life, into us.
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9:10 - 9:12And the three major phases
of the early universe -
9:12 - 9:15was energy, when the dominant force
was energy; -
9:15 - 9:17then as it cooled
the dominant force became matter; -
9:18 - 9:21and then, with the invention of life,
four billion years ago, -
9:21 - 9:24the dominant force in our neighborhood
became information. -
9:24 - 9:26That's what life is:
It's an information process -
9:26 - 9:28that was restructuring
and making new order. -
9:28 - 9:32So, those energy, matter
Einstein show were equivalent, -
9:32 - 9:35and now new sciences of quantum computing
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9:35 - 9:39show that entropy and information
and matter and energy -
9:39 - 9:42are all interrelated,
so it's one long continuum. -
9:43 - 9:46You put energy
into the right kind of system -
9:46 - 9:49and out comes wasted heat, entropy
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9:49 - 9:52and extropy, which is order.
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9:52 - 9:54It's the increased order.
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9:54 - 9:57Where does this order come from?
Its roots go way back. -
9:57 - 9:58We actually don't know.
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9:58 - 10:01But we do know
that the self-organization trend -
10:01 - 10:03throughout the universe is long,
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10:03 - 10:05and it began with things like galaxies;
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10:05 - 10:08they maintained their order
for billions of years. -
10:08 - 10:12Stars are basically
nuclear fusion machines -
10:12 - 10:16that self-organize and self-sustain
themselves for billions of years, -
10:16 - 10:18this order against the entropy
of the world. -
10:18 - 10:23And flowers and plants
are the same thing, extended, -
10:23 - 10:27and technology is basically
an extension of life. -
10:29 - 10:32One trend that we notice
in all those things is that -
10:32 - 10:35the amount of energy per gram per second
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10:35 - 10:38that flows through this,
is actually increasing. -
10:38 - 10:42The amount of energy is increasing
through this little sequence. -
10:42 - 10:46And that the amount of energy per gram
per second that flows through life -
10:46 - 10:48is actually greater than a star -
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10:48 - 10:51because of the star's long lifespan,
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10:51 - 10:54the energy density in life
is actually higher than a star. -
10:55 - 10:58And the energy density
that we see in the greatest -
10:58 - 11:00of anywhere in the universe
is actually in a PC chip. -
11:00 - 11:03There is more energy flowing through,
per gram per second, -
11:03 - 11:06than anything that we have
any other experience with. -
11:06 - 11:09What I would suggest
is that if you want to see -
11:09 - 11:14where technology is going,
we continue that trajectory, -
11:14 - 11:17and we say, "Well what's going to become
more energy-dense, -
11:17 - 11:18that's where it's going."
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11:18 - 11:21And so what I've done is,
I've taken the same kinds of things -
11:21 - 11:23and looked at other aspects
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11:23 - 11:25of evolutionary life and say,
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11:25 - 11:27"What are the general trends
in evolutionary life?" -
11:27 - 11:29And there are things moving towards
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11:29 - 11:32greater complexity,
moving towards greater diversity, -
11:32 - 11:35moving towards greater specialization,
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11:35 - 11:39sentience, ubiquity and most important,
evolvability: -
11:39 - 11:43Those very same things
are also present in technology. -
11:43 - 11:45That's where technology is going.
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11:45 - 11:49It is moving towards more complexity,
diversity, specialization, -
11:49 - 11:51more mindfulness
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11:51 - 11:53more evolvability.
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11:53 - 11:57In fact, technology is accelerating
all the aspects of life, -
11:58 - 12:01and we can see that happening;
just as there's diversity in life, -
12:01 - 12:03there's more diversity in things we make.
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12:03 - 12:05Things in life start out
being general cell, -
12:05 - 12:08and they become specialized:
you have tissue cells, -
12:08 - 12:09you have muscle, brain cells.
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12:09 - 12:13And same things happens with, say
a hammer, which is general at first -
12:13 - 12:14and becomes more specific.
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12:14 - 12:18So, I would like to say
that while there is six kingdoms of life, -
12:18 - 12:20we can think of technology basically
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12:20 - 12:22as a seventh kingdom of life.
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12:22 - 12:24It's a branching off from the human form.
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12:24 - 12:26But technology has its own agenda,
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12:26 - 12:28like anything, like life itself.
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12:29 - 12:33For instance, right now, three-quarters
of the energy that we use -
12:33 - 12:35is actually used
to feed the technium itself. -
12:35 - 12:38In transportation,
it's not to move us, it's to move -
12:38 - 12:40the stuff that we make or buy.
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12:41 - 12:44On one hand, technology [unclear]
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12:44 - 12:47on the other hand, it's blessing us
with all kinds of things. -
12:47 - 12:50I use the word "want."
Technology wants. -
12:50 - 12:53This is a robot that wants
to plug itself in to get more power. -
12:53 - 12:56Your cat wants more food.
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12:56 - 12:59A bacterium,
which has no consciousness at all, -
12:59 - 13:01wants to move towards light.
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13:01 - 13:03It has an urge,
and technology has an urge. -
13:03 - 13:05At the same time,
it wants to give us things, -
13:05 - 13:08and what it gives us
is basically progress. -
13:08 - 13:11You can take all kinds of curves,
and they're all pointing up. -
13:11 - 13:13There's really no dispute about progress,
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13:13 - 13:16if we discount the cost of that.
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13:16 - 13:18And that's the thing
that bothers most people, -
13:18 - 13:20is that progress is really real,
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13:20 - 13:24but we wonder and question:
What are the environmental costs of it? -
13:24 - 13:28But there's no doubt about it,
that it really is present and gives us. -
13:28 - 13:32I did a survey of a number of species
of artifacts in my house, -
13:32 - 13:33and there's 6,000.
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13:33 - 13:35Other people have come up with 10,000.
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13:36 - 13:38When King Henry of England died,
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13:38 - 13:42he had 18,000 things in his house,
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13:42 - 13:45but that was the entire wealth of England.
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13:47 - 13:50And with that entire wealth of England,
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13:50 - 13:53King Henry could not buy any antibiotics,
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13:53 - 13:55he could not buy refrigeration,
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13:55 - 13:57he could not buy a trip
of a thousand miles. -
13:57 - 14:00Whereas this rickshaw wallah in India
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14:00 - 14:02could save up and buy antibiotics
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14:02 - 14:04and he could buy refrigeration.
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14:04 - 14:07He could buy things that King Henry,
in all his wealth, could never buy. -
14:07 - 14:09That's what progress is about.
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14:09 - 14:12So, technology is selfish;
technology is generous. -
14:12 - 14:15That conflict, that tension,
will be with us forever, -
14:15 - 14:18that sometimes it wants to do
what it wants to do, -
14:18 - 14:20and sometimes
it's going to do things for us. -
14:20 - 14:22And that's where we get
this sort of feeling, -
14:25 - 14:28we have confusion about what
we should think about a new technology. -
14:28 - 14:30Right now the default position
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14:30 - 14:32about when a new technology
comes along, is - -
14:32 - 14:34people talk about
the precautionary principle, -
14:34 - 14:37which is very common in Europe,
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14:37 - 14:39which says, basically, "Don't do anything.
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14:39 - 14:41When you meet a new technology, stop,
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14:41 - 14:43until it can be proven
that there's no harm." -
14:43 - 14:46I think that really leads nowhere.
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14:46 - 14:48But a better way is to,
what I call proactionary principle, -
14:48 - 14:51which is: you engage with technology.
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14:51 - 14:52You try it out.
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14:52 - 14:57You obviously do
what the precautionary principle suggests, -
14:57 - 14:59you try to anticipate it,
but after anticipating it, -
14:59 - 15:01you constantly asses it,
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15:01 - 15:03not just once, but eternally.
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15:03 - 15:06And when it diverts from what you want,
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15:07 - 15:10we prioritize risk,
we evaluate not just the new stuff -
15:10 - 15:11but the old stuff.
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15:11 - 15:14We fix it, but most importantly,
we relocate it. -
15:15 - 15:17And what I mean by that is that
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15:17 - 15:19we find a new job for it.
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15:21 - 15:24Technologies are sort of like children.
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15:25 - 15:29Nuclear energy, fission,
is really bad idea for bombs. -
15:29 - 15:32But it may be a pretty good idea -
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15:32 - 15:36relocated into
sustainable nuclear energy - -
15:36 - 15:39for electricity, instead of burning coal.
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15:39 - 15:43When we have a bad idea,
the response to a bad idea -
15:43 - 15:46is not no ideas,
it's not to stop thinking. -
15:47 - 15:50The response to a bad idea -
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15:50 - 15:52like, say, a tungsten light bulb -
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15:52 - 15:54is a better idea. OK?
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15:55 - 15:59So, better ideas is really -
always the response -
15:59 - 16:00to technology that we don't like
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16:00 - 16:03is basically, better technology.
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16:03 - 16:04And actually, in a certain sense,
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16:04 - 16:08technology is a kind of a method
for generating better ideas, -
16:08 - 16:10if you can think about it that way.
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16:10 - 16:13So, maybe spraying DDT on crops
is a really bad idea. -
16:13 - 16:16But DDT sprayed on local homes,
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16:18 - 16:21there's nothing better
to eliminate malaria, -
16:21 - 16:24besides insect DDT-impregnated
mosquito nets. -
16:24 - 16:28But that's a really good idea;
that's a good job for technology. -
16:28 - 16:29So, our job as humans
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16:30 - 16:32is to parent our mind children,
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16:33 - 16:35to find them good friends,
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16:35 - 16:36to find them a good job.
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16:36 - 16:39And so, every technology
is sort of a creative force -
16:39 - 16:41looking for the right job.
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16:41 - 16:43That's actually my son, right here.
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16:43 - 16:44(Laughter)
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16:44 - 16:47There are no bad technologies,
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16:47 - 16:49just as there are no bad children.
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16:49 - 16:52We don't say children are neutral,
children are positive. -
16:52 - 16:54We just have to find them the right place.
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16:54 - 16:57And so, what technology gives us,
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16:57 - 17:00over the long term,
over the sort of extended evolution - -
17:00 - 17:01from the beginning of time,
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17:01 - 17:05through the invention
of the plants and animals, -
17:05 - 17:08and the evolution of life,
the evolution of brains - -
17:08 - 17:10what that is constantly giving us
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17:10 - 17:14what technology is giving us
after we weigh the pros and cons, -
17:14 - 17:19is increasing differences -
which was mentioned this morning - -
17:20 - 17:22it's increasing diversity,
it's increasing options, -
17:22 - 17:24it's increasing choices, opportunities,
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17:24 - 17:26possibilities and freedoms.
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17:26 - 17:29That's what we get from technology
all the time. -
17:30 - 17:31That's why people leave villages
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17:32 - 17:34and go into cities,
is because they are always -
17:34 - 17:37gravitating towards
increased choices and possibilities. -
17:38 - 17:40And we are aware of the price.
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17:40 - 17:43We pay a price for that,
but we are aware of it, and generally -
17:43 - 17:45we will pay the price
for increased freedoms, -
17:45 - 17:47choices and opportunities.
-
17:47 - 17:50Even technology wants clean water.
-
17:51 - 17:53Is technology
diametrically opposed -
17:55 - 17:58to nature?
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17:59 - 18:02I have a couple of slides,
two slildes left - -
18:02 - 18:06I would say high technology
needs clean water -
18:06 - 18:08as much as we do, if not more than we do.
-
18:09 - 18:11Because technology
is an extension of life, -
18:11 - 18:14it's in parallel and aligned
with the same things -
18:14 - 18:16that life wants.
-
18:16 - 18:18So that I think technology loves biology,
-
18:18 - 18:20if we allow it to.
-
18:20 - 18:25So, all these things - complexity,
diversity - are the long strand, -
18:25 - 18:30the great movement
that is starting billions of years ago -
18:30 - 18:32is moving through us
and it continues to go, -
18:32 - 18:34and our choice, so to speak,
-
18:34 - 18:37in technology,
is really to align ourselves -
18:37 - 18:39with this force much greater
than ourselves. -
18:39 - 18:42So, technology is more
than just the stuff in your pocket. -
18:42 - 18:43It's more than just gadgets;
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18:43 - 18:45it's more than just things
that people invent. -
18:45 - 18:48It's actually part of a very long story,
-
18:48 - 18:51a great story,
that began billions of years ago. -
18:51 - 18:53And it's moving through us,
this self-organization, -
18:53 - 18:55and we're extending and accelerating it,
-
18:55 - 18:57and we can be part of it
by aligning the technology -
18:57 - 18:59that we make with it.
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19:00 - 19:03I really appreciate your attention today.
Thank you. -
19:03 - 19:06(Applause)
- Title:
- Technology's epic story | Kevin Kelly | TEDxAmsterdam
- Description:
-
In this wide-ranging, thought-provoking talk, Kevin Kelly muses on what technology means in our lives -- from its impact at the personal level to its place in the cosmos.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 19:12
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