Are you hearing my voice? | Gabriela Manssur | TEDxSãoPaulo
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0:05 - 0:09"I did hit! I really did!
With this hand here!" -
0:09 - 0:12"She wasn't taught to behave
at home - I'll teach her." -
0:12 - 0:16"He only hit me because
I went for a job interview, -
0:16 - 0:18and I left the kids with the neighbor."
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0:18 - 0:20"He complains about my clothes.
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0:20 - 0:23If I use a leopard print,
he calls me a slut. -
0:23 - 0:26If I use red lipstick,
he says I'm attention-seeking." -
0:26 - 0:28"He complains about my food
and says it's rubbish. -
0:28 - 0:30It's the same thing every day."
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0:31 - 0:34"If you don't stay with me,
you won't have anyone else! -
0:34 - 0:36I'll make your life hell!
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0:36 - 0:39I'll publish our intimate photos
on social media! -
0:39 - 0:41I'm going to kill you!"
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0:41 - 0:47"At first, it seemed like love.
He'd say he loved me 100 times a day. -
0:48 - 0:50Then he started to control my life,
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0:51 - 0:53took me away from my friends, my family,
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0:53 - 0:58controlled the places I went to,
my habits, and the clothes I wore. -
0:59 - 1:01I decided to end the relationship.
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1:01 - 1:03He didn't accept it.
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1:03 - 1:07He began to threaten me.
He'd harass me at my school entrance! -
1:07 - 1:11He'd hang around at the college entrance,
and he'd wait around at my workplace. -
1:11 - 1:15The last time we were together,
he tried to strangle me. -
1:15 - 1:20I ran away, but now I'm afraid.
I don't leave home anymore." -
1:21 - 1:26Cases like these are commonplace
in my day-to-day life as a prosecutor, -
1:26 - 1:28working to prevent violence against women.
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1:29 - 1:32And you must be wondering,
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1:32 - 1:34"Why did she decide
to become a prosecuting attorney? -
1:34 - 1:38Why does she defend woman's rights?
Why does she use this robe?" -
1:38 - 1:42Well, I use this robe in the courtroom
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1:42 - 1:45in cases of violent deaths against women.
-
1:45 - 1:48I've used it for 12 years,
and I've never washed it. -
1:48 - 1:51One day, my son saw me
in this robe and asked, -
1:51 - 1:54"Mom, are you a child?"
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1:54 - 1:55I said, "No."
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1:55 - 1:59"Then why are you in this costume?
You look like Batman!" -
1:59 - 2:00And that day I explained to him,
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2:00 - 2:05"Mommy goes to the courtroom
to defend women's rights." -
2:05 - 2:10I always had a very intimate relationship
with my grandmother, Marilia, -
2:10 - 2:13a woman ahead of her time,
a vanguard woman. -
2:14 - 2:16She separated very early.
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2:17 - 2:19With four children,
she had to strive hard. -
2:19 - 2:23She overcame her strife,
turning her pain into strength. -
2:23 - 2:27I always followed her closely
because she did everything differently, -
2:27 - 2:30and that inspired me
and generated a certain curiosity. -
2:30 - 2:31I questioned everything,
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2:31 - 2:34"Grandma, why did you do this?"
"Why did you do that?" -
2:34 - 2:36"What do you think I should be
when I grow up?" -
2:36 - 2:40She said, "Since you question everything,
you're so picky, and want to know it all, -
2:40 - 2:43you should be a prosecuting attorney."
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2:43 - 2:46I grew up, graduated,
studied for four years, -
2:46 - 2:49and went on to be a prosecutor.
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2:49 - 2:52I was second in the bar exam,
and I called her that day, -
2:52 - 2:55"Grandma, I passed!
I passed in second place!" -
2:55 - 2:58She asked, "Aren't you going to ask
why you didn't get first place?" -
2:58 - 3:01I said, "No, this time
I'll just accept it quietly." -
3:02 - 3:06The first place I started
working as a prosecutor -
3:06 - 3:09was in Embu-Guaçu, a very poor town
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3:09 - 3:12with one of the highest rates
of violence against women. -
3:12 - 3:16The courthouse was in a garage,
beneath a building, -
3:16 - 3:18and it was there that I saw
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3:18 - 3:21one of the worst crimes
of violence against women. -
3:22 - 3:25One day, Celeste arrived in my office.
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3:25 - 3:28Her arms were bruised,
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3:29 - 3:32and she came to me and said,
"Ma'am, I need help." -
3:33 - 3:35I said, "What's up, Celeste?"
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3:36 - 3:41"My son's addicted to cocaine.
He hits me every day. -
3:41 - 3:44If I don't give him money,
he hits me, he threatens me, -
3:44 - 3:46he curses me, he imprisons me at home.
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3:46 - 3:51He threatened to kill me!
I'm really afraid for my life." -
3:51 - 3:56On that day, in one hand,
I held the life of a woman, -
3:56 - 3:57and in the other hand,
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3:57 - 4:01I was holding one of the most important
human relationships there is: -
4:01 - 4:03mother and child.
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4:04 - 4:06But we had to act.
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4:06 - 4:10We got a protective measure
to get Marcelo out of the house. -
4:10 - 4:14But he violated it, was arrested,
and spent two months in jail. -
4:14 - 4:16During those two months
he was imprisoned, -
4:16 - 4:19Celeste was reborn.
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4:20 - 4:23When she came to my office,
I could tell she'd gained some weight. -
4:23 - 4:25She started to dye her hair blonde.
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4:25 - 4:27She would bring me cornmeal cake.
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4:28 - 4:31When Marcelo was released,
she came to visit me and said, -
4:31 - 4:35"I'm so happy, ma'am. He's better.
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4:35 - 4:37Now he can move back in with me."
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4:37 - 4:42And at that moment,
I felt a sense of accomplishment. -
4:42 - 4:45I was then promoted
to another attorney's office, -
4:45 - 4:47in Taboão da Serra, where I am today.
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4:48 - 4:50Ten days later, my intern called me,
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4:50 - 4:53"I have some news for you, ma'am.
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4:54 - 4:57Celeste passed away.
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4:57 - 5:01Marcelo stabbed her 20 times
and killed his own mother." -
5:04 - 5:07From that day on, my life changed,
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5:07 - 5:12and I found a strong purpose
to fight for women's lives. -
5:12 - 5:15We don't want to lose more women's lives.
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5:15 - 5:20I realized I had to change
my attitude as a prosecutor -
5:20 - 5:24by not just checking papers in my office
and fighting for convictions, -
5:24 - 5:26certainly necessary tasks,
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5:26 - 5:29but I couldn't just do what was required,
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5:29 - 5:31I had to go further.
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5:31 - 5:34I started approaching the community,
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5:34 - 5:36going into schools and colleges.
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5:36 - 5:41I approached the social movements,
the activists, and I learned a lot. -
5:42 - 5:45I learned that in crimes
of violence against women, -
5:45 - 5:48punishment alone isn't enough.
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5:48 - 5:52You need to look at the victim
and be with this woman, -
5:52 - 5:55but you also need to look at the man
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5:55 - 5:58who is behind the aggression.
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5:59 - 6:03I noticed two major reasons
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6:03 - 6:06that exacerbate this violence in Brazil.
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6:06 - 6:10On the one hand, we have
a lot of women who don't report; -
6:10 - 6:15on the other hand, we have many cases
of men who repeat their behavior. -
6:15 - 6:18What empowers me? My work.
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6:18 - 6:20So I decided to find jobs for these women
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6:20 - 6:25because 27.5% of women
don't have the economic conditions -
6:25 - 6:29to break up a relationship
and get out of the cycle of violence. -
6:29 - 6:33I partnered with public
and private organizations -
6:33 - 6:38to empower these women and insert them
directly into the work market. -
6:38 - 6:40In the first company,
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6:40 - 6:44we placed ten women,
violence victims, directly into factories. -
6:44 - 6:48OK, it was my husband's company,
but it was already a start. -
6:49 - 6:52The women are empowered.
What about the men? -
6:52 - 6:56Behind every beaten woman is her attacker,
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6:56 - 6:58and that's who I want to talk to.
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6:59 - 7:02By the way, women come
into the attorney's office and say, -
7:02 - 7:07"Talk to him, ma'am! Give him a fright!
He's a good father, a good husband." -
7:07 - 7:09I think, "Hey, I'm not a ghost
to go around scaring people. -
7:09 - 7:14Yes, I'll talk to him,
but in an institutionalized way." -
7:14 - 7:18We developed a project where we talk
with the accused men, -
7:18 - 7:21drawing them closer
to the attorney's office, -
7:21 - 7:24to accompany them
during their time of prosecution -
7:24 - 7:28so that when they leave,
they don't commit more crimes. -
7:28 - 7:33Today, where I work,
we have a 65% recurrence rate. -
7:33 - 7:37Sixty-five percent of men go back
and again beat their wife, -
7:37 - 7:41their girlfriend, their ex-partner,
or their future partner. -
7:41 - 7:47And we bring these men in
to discussion classes, -
7:47 - 7:50debates, and conversations,
to talk about various subjects. -
7:50 - 7:51Sexuality:
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7:51 - 7:56"When a woman says no, it's no,
and insistent pressure is rape." -
7:56 - 7:58We talk about masculinity:
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7:58 - 8:01"Men also cry. Men are sensitive.
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8:01 - 8:04You can express your feelings."
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8:04 - 8:06About alcohol and drugs:
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8:06 - 8:09"Ninety percent of men are
under the influence of alcohol and drugs." -
8:09 - 8:13We also talk about masculinity,
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8:13 - 8:14about machismo,
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8:14 - 8:17and injustices committed against women.
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8:17 - 8:20If you have a law to protect women,
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8:20 - 8:22it's because relationships are unequal,
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8:22 - 8:24and the law's here to balance this out.
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8:24 - 8:28We're not against men;
we're in favor of women's rights. -
8:28 - 8:32And men will benefit most from it.
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8:32 - 8:38In the first program of the project,
we had 75% adherence and no recurrence. -
8:38 - 8:40In the second program,
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8:40 - 8:45we had 90% adherence
and only one recurrence. -
8:45 - 8:47The second program was different:
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8:47 - 8:51we received investments
from private and public companies, -
8:51 - 8:56we had international speakers
coming to talk to these men, -
8:56 - 8:58and we left a legacy.
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8:59 - 9:01The project became a law.
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9:01 - 9:05Today, this project is mandatory
in Taboão da Serra - -
9:05 - 9:06talking to these men.
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9:06 - 9:09And how did we give
visibility to all of this? -
9:10 - 9:12Through social media.
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9:12 - 9:16I started posting positive actions
of violence prevention against women - -
9:16 - 9:19projects, court decisions,
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9:19 - 9:22actions of public organizations,
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9:22 - 9:25and violence prevention projects -
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9:25 - 9:27and it was successful; it worked.
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9:27 - 9:30I started to receive several reports
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9:30 - 9:35of people wanting to do
voluntary work for the projects, -
9:35 - 9:38and we gained a lot of visibility.
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9:38 - 9:42This is so true that during ENEM,
the national high school exam -
9:42 - 9:45that's also used for college admission,
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9:45 - 9:50nearly 8 million students wrote
on the theme of violence against women. -
9:50 - 9:54We had five top magazine covers
showing this topic. -
9:55 - 9:58We had young girls
going out on the streets, -
9:58 - 10:00declaring themselves feminists,
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10:00 - 10:05with no shame, fighting for our rights -
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10:05 - 10:11not only fighting for rights, but battling
for the enforcement of rights -
10:11 - 10:13which had already been won.
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10:13 - 10:15Because we don't want to go back.
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10:15 - 10:19We don't want to burn bras any longer;
they've already been burned. -
10:19 - 10:24We want more beautiful bras
or to not even wear bras. -
10:24 - 10:27What we want is our freedom of choice.
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10:28 - 10:33The second way I thought
would give visibility to the project -
10:33 - 10:34was the street race,
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10:34 - 10:36which is what gives me
the physical strength -
10:36 - 10:41to help me face this daily violence
which I indirectly end up suffering from. -
10:41 - 10:45Through sport, we bring
together a social cause -
10:46 - 10:51with something that transforms
people's reality and has visibility. -
10:51 - 10:53We did our first training.
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10:53 - 10:57I joined up with people
who like both running and social causes. -
10:57 - 11:02There were only 80 women
from the community at our first event. -
11:02 - 11:07We only had water and bananas,
also provided by my husband's company. -
11:07 - 11:09But this evolved,
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11:10 - 11:16and now in March 2015,
we had 3,000 people on the streets, -
11:16 - 11:19running side by side
for the end of violence against women. -
11:19 - 11:22We had 300,000 Brazilian reals
from investments, -
11:22 - 11:25and we even managed
to invest in NGO projects, -
11:25 - 11:30dedicated to projects of preventing
and combating violence against women. -
11:30 - 11:34And next year there'll be more:
five races in five capitals. -
11:34 - 11:35I hope you'll all be there.
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11:35 - 11:38(Applause)
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11:39 - 11:42You know you're on the right track
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11:42 - 11:47when older people admire and applaud you;
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11:47 - 11:51when people from your generation
laugh, find it funny, -
11:51 - 11:54but they stand by you and support you;
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11:54 - 11:59when younger people
who are always cool, everything's cool, -
11:59 - 12:02but when things go bad,
when there's a problem, -
12:02 - 12:05they call you to fix it,
have you as a reference, -
12:05 - 12:07and even take a selfie with you.
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12:10 - 12:15One day, a woman came
into my office and said, -
12:15 - 12:18"My court case is over, ma'am,
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12:18 - 12:21he's already been convicted,
but I need your help." -
12:21 - 12:24And I asked, "What do you want?"
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12:24 - 12:28"Ma'am, please help me get my life back!"
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12:29 - 12:33At that moment, I realized
she just needed a daycare, -
12:34 - 12:37psychological care, a job,
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12:37 - 12:39and to receive reconstructive surgery
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12:39 - 12:43to fix the scar from the stabbing
she had suffered. -
12:43 - 12:48This is no different from other women
who've already had their cases resolved, -
12:48 - 12:53but they need our help
to rescue their self-esteem. -
12:54 - 12:58"We were suspicious when we got here,
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12:58 - 13:01but it was a warning, an awakening."
-
13:01 - 13:05This phrase was spoken by men
who attended the project. -
13:06 - 13:09And these men, affectionately or not,
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13:09 - 13:13nicknamed me the "Iron Lady."
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13:15 - 13:18But the person who's speaking to you here
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13:20 - 13:22isn't an iron lady.
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13:23 - 13:24She's a woman.
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13:24 - 13:28She's a woman, subject
to any type of violence: -
13:28 - 13:33physical, psychological,
sexual, patrimonial. -
13:34 - 13:36Look beside you, please.
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13:36 - 13:38Look beside you.
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13:39 - 13:42How many women do we have here?
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13:42 - 13:46How many of us suffer
from some type of violence? -
13:46 - 13:52One out of every three women in Brazil
suffers from some type of violence. -
14:00 - 14:06Every 12 seconds, a woman
suffers some type of violence in Brazil. -
14:06 - 14:09[Brazil ranks fifth in the world
in violence against women] -
14:09 - 14:13What we are doing to decrease this index?
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14:14 - 14:18I'm the granddaughter of Marília,
the daughter of Regina, -
14:18 - 14:20sister of Domitila, and mother of Camila,
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14:21 - 14:25but I also feel like the
granddaughter of many Celestes, -
14:25 - 14:28daughter of many Marias da Penha,
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14:29 - 14:33sister of many Majuses,
of many Taís Araujos, -
14:33 - 14:37and mother of many Valentinas.
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14:38 - 14:41There was a girl who had a dream,
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14:41 - 14:45which was to live
free from any kind of violence. -
14:46 - 14:48This is what she did.
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14:48 - 14:53She transformed her life
and the lives of many women. -
14:53 - 14:55But she doesn't only want
to fulfill her obligation, -
14:55 - 14:57she wants to go further.
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14:57 - 15:02Her work is much more
than giving voice to these women - -
15:02 - 15:07her job is to make these voices heard.
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15:08 - 15:11Are you listening to my voice?
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15:11 - 15:15Are you listening to my voice?
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15:15 - 15:16Audience: Yes.
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15:16 - 15:17Gabriela Manssur: Thank you.
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15:17 - 15:20(Applause)
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15:20 - 15:23(Cheers)
- Title:
- Are you hearing my voice? | Gabriela Manssur | TEDxSãoPaulo
- Description:
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Gabi Manssur talks about the need to listen to women and respect them. She is a reference in Brazil for her work in the prevention of violence against women.
Gabriela Manssur is a prosecuting attorney in the Public Prosecutor's Office of the state of São Paulo. She is coordinator of “Núcleo de Combate à Violência contra a Mulher” (Center for the Prevention of Violence against Women).
She created the Instagram account "Justiça de Saia" (Justice in Skirts) and promotes street races to give visibility to the cause of preventing violence against women.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- Portuguese, Brazilian
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 15:30
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