Poetry and music to alleviate the social isolation imposed by COVID-19 | Gisele Lobato | TEDxLaçador
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0:06 - 0:08I want to share with you
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0:08 - 0:11the results we're getting
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0:11 - 0:15with hospital patients
quarantined for COVID-19. -
0:16 - 0:21First of all, we're a group of colleagues
from Hospital Moinhos de Vento -
0:21 - 0:23who are working on a project
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0:23 - 0:29to try to understand the emotional aspects
of what is happening to us. -
0:29 - 0:33What is quarantine? What is isolation?
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0:33 - 0:36Quarantine isn't 40 days, of course.
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0:37 - 0:40The practice of quarantine
began during the 14th century -
0:42 - 0:44as a response to the Black Plague,
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0:44 - 0:47and it was first applied in Venice.
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0:47 - 0:49Since then we've seen
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0:49 - 0:54that separation of sick people
from healthy people -
0:55 - 0:59somehow brought an improvement
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0:59 - 1:01from an epidemiological point of view.
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1:01 - 1:05At the time, there was no such thing,
but we know more about this today. -
1:05 - 1:07That's why the quarantine exists,
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1:07 - 1:09and that's why today
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1:09 - 1:14people suffering from any
potentially contaminating disease -
1:14 - 1:17must be separated from others.
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1:17 - 1:20What do we understand about this?
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1:20 - 1:24What does it mean to stay apart?
What does it mean to stay away? -
1:24 - 1:26As Morena Mariah said in her talk,
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1:26 - 1:29the vulnerability we face -
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1:29 - 1:33not only now, but always,
we're always vulnerable. -
1:33 - 1:35So, you imagine:
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1:36 - 1:37I'm very well,
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1:37 - 1:40I'm working, I'm talking,
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1:41 - 1:44I do the things I like doing,
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1:44 - 1:47and then I begin to feel a bit more tired.
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1:47 - 1:51I feel a bit more tired,
but we're always tired, -
1:51 - 1:53we work a lot, anyway ...
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1:53 - 1:58A headache appears, so I take
a painkiller and that's it. -
1:58 - 2:00Next day, it's a little worse,
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2:00 - 2:03headache again, anyway,
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2:03 - 2:07one never thinks much
about these symptoms. -
2:07 - 2:12On the third day, when it becomes
a little more serious, -
2:12 - 2:17when pain appears in the body,
and there's a fever, -
2:18 - 2:20you find yourself forced to seek help.
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2:21 - 2:23This vulnerability itself,
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2:23 - 2:28as Morena calls it,
in the face of something unknown, -
2:28 - 2:32manifests itself in us
through physical symptoms -
2:32 - 2:35and impacts us emotionally.
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2:35 - 2:37What will we do with that?
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2:37 - 2:39We go to the emergency room -
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2:39 - 2:41a hospital emergency,
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2:41 - 2:44Today, the emergency rooms,
are differentiated, you know. -
2:44 - 2:48There are emergency rooms specifically
for people with respiratory symptoms. -
2:48 - 2:52We arrive at this emergency room,
and we don't know anyone. -
2:52 - 2:57We're attended by fully protected people:
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2:57 - 3:03gloves, face coverings,
face shields, aprons. -
3:03 - 3:07The contact with us
is reduced to a minimum: -
3:07 - 3:11simply to check our blood pressure
and temperature. -
3:12 - 3:18Then they send us to do blood tests,
and we go for a CT scan. -
3:18 - 3:22Well, that's the end of the world.
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3:22 - 3:25The unknown world of a hospital -
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3:25 - 3:28nobody likes hospitals.
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3:28 - 3:30We like hospitals
when little babies are born. -
3:30 - 3:33We go, visit and leave.
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3:33 - 3:35This is the good side of the hospital.
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3:35 - 3:39But this patient, that could be me,
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3:39 - 3:40isn't progressing enough
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3:40 - 3:44and is obliged to stay in the hospital
as a safety measure. -
3:44 - 3:48I go to a room in a special unit,
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3:48 - 3:53and there I'm completely
isolated in this room. -
3:53 - 3:58No one arrives at my door
or comes into the room -
3:58 - 4:00unless they are fully protected.
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4:00 - 4:03I can't talk with my family
except by cellphone. -
4:03 - 4:07I get no affection.
I get no hugs from anyone. -
4:07 - 4:12I have absolutely no control over my life.
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4:12 - 4:13I don't have it.
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4:13 - 4:16This generates a series of emotions:
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4:16 - 4:18I get depressed,
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4:18 - 4:22I get extremely anxious
because I don't know what's happening, -
4:23 - 4:25and even worse,
I don't know what will happen. -
4:25 - 4:27Will I be all right?
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4:27 - 4:31Will I make progress?
Will I have to go to an ICU? -
4:31 - 4:36In an Intensive Care Unit,
I'll have to be sedated -
4:36 - 4:39to be able to withstand
the mechanical ventilation -
4:39 - 4:42provided by a ventilator,
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4:42 - 4:47a device that puts air into us
because we can't do it ourselves. -
4:48 - 4:50Will I make progress that way?
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4:50 - 4:52What about my family?
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4:52 - 4:56What about money to pay the bills?
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4:56 - 4:59All of this often generates
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5:00 - 5:06a disproportional series
of emotions inside us. -
5:06 - 5:10We begin to see ourselves as trapped.
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5:10 - 5:14We see ourselves faced
with these circumstances -
5:14 - 5:17over which we don't have any control.
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5:17 - 5:19And since we don't have any control -
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5:19 - 5:22normally we seem
to have control over things, -
5:22 - 5:26which gives us a sensation of security -
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5:26 - 5:29but right now we don't feel
secure about anything. -
5:29 - 5:31There are interesting studies
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5:31 - 5:36that compare prisoners in jail -
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5:36 - 5:39clearly there's bias in that -
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5:39 - 5:42with hospital patients.
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5:42 - 5:46Obviously these studies were done
prior to the coronavirus, -
5:46 - 5:51but the feelings people face
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5:51 - 5:55of suffering,
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5:55 - 5:59of being confined, and of anger
are very similar. -
6:00 - 6:02What do we think about then?
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6:02 - 6:05We think about trying to provide,
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6:05 - 6:10trying to use some extremely
easy resources we know, -
6:10 - 6:14to reduce and minimize a little bit
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6:14 - 6:18this sense of suffering and abandonment.
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6:19 - 6:21We understand the medicine -
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6:21 - 6:23nowadays everybody
understands medicine this way, -
6:23 - 6:27we're not different from others -
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6:27 - 6:30we understand medicine
in a more holistic way. -
6:30 - 6:33By holistic I mean
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6:34 - 6:37a type of medicine
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6:37 - 6:40that's not just worried
about physical symptoms. -
6:40 - 6:44Physical symptoms happen in a person.
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6:44 - 6:46Each person is a person,
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6:46 - 6:48with their own particularities,
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6:48 - 6:50their own history,
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6:50 - 6:52and their own emotions.
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6:52 - 6:55So it's very important
that we can understand -
6:55 - 7:00that, at this time,
we must treat everyone differently. -
7:00 - 7:05We can't only think
about their positivity for COVID -
7:05 - 7:07or if the PCR will react or not.
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7:07 - 7:09No. This is also important, of course.
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7:10 - 7:15There are new protocols all the time
about what the best medicines are -
7:15 - 7:19and what is the best strategy to reduce
the impact of the disease on people, -
7:19 - 7:22but we understand it in another way.
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7:22 - 7:28We are introducing music and poetry
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7:28 - 7:30to quarantined hospital patients.
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7:31 - 7:35We've done this, we're doing this,
and it's a work in progress. -
7:36 - 7:39It's been extremely nice
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7:40 - 7:43and very cool
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7:43 - 7:45what we've gotten in return.
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7:45 - 7:49We've just started this work recently,
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7:49 - 7:51and the feedback -
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7:51 - 7:55the responses people
send to me via WhatsApp -
7:55 - 7:59every time I send a song to them,
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7:59 - 8:01or a poem -
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8:02 - 8:05has been extremely rewarding.
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8:05 - 8:07And it's something simple.
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8:07 - 8:09It's something so simple.
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8:09 - 8:13We chose five authors,
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8:13 - 8:14five poets -
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8:15 - 8:18unfortunately I didn't remember
Thiago de Mello, -
8:18 - 8:20he's a brilliant poet -
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8:20 - 8:24but anyway, poetry that gives
people the desire to live, -
8:24 - 8:28poetry that helps people
be optimistic in life, -
8:28 - 8:31to realize that
their condition is temporary, -
8:32 - 8:33and that, many times,
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8:33 - 8:37what seems like it will last forever,
won't last forever. -
8:37 - 8:41And this pandemic, is like that.
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8:41 - 8:45Of course, it's taking a while,
but it will happen, we'll have a vaccine. -
8:46 - 8:47Many people are recovering,
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8:47 - 8:51fortunately, the majority,
at least in Brazil. -
8:51 - 8:55The sample we have shows
that people are getting better. -
8:55 - 8:57The same way with the music.
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8:57 - 9:00We have used the music -
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9:00 - 9:01classical music,
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9:01 - 9:04it's not punk rock, nothing like that,
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9:04 - 9:10just music that can
inspire us from inside. -
9:10 - 9:15And think, "How beautiful
it is now to listen to music. -
9:15 - 9:17It means I'll leave here.
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9:17 - 9:20It means that I'll live better days.
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9:20 - 9:24It means that I'll learn
from everything that's happening to me." -
9:24 - 9:26It's not magical thought,
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9:26 - 9:28that's not what we want
to transmit to people. -
9:28 - 9:33What we want is to integrate
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9:33 - 9:36the symptoms of people
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9:36 - 9:41who are affected by this serious illness
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9:41 - 9:43with all their particularities,
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9:43 - 9:49helping them, who knows, to suffer less -
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9:50 - 9:54and find a way to overcome it -
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9:54 - 9:58like a current of a river that is passing
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9:58 - 10:00and that will pass.
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10:00 - 10:01Finally.
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10:01 - 10:04This is what I wanted to share with you.
- Title:
- Poetry and music to alleviate the social isolation imposed by COVID-19 | Gisele Lobato | TEDxLaçador
- Description:
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Dr. Gisele Lobato shares the experience that she and other colleagues in the internal medicine service of a private hospital in Porto Alegre have had. They are responsible for patients infected by COVID-19 and helping these patients go through the social isolation that this pandemic requires. Gisele talks about negative emotional aspects caused by isolation: anxiety, sadness, and fear. She tells how art, through poetry and music, can help alleviate this suffering.
Dr. Gisele Lobato is a physician and internist, and she holds a master's and doctorate in Medical Sciences. She is the coordinator of the Scientific Education at the Internal Medicine Residency at Hospital Moinhos de Vento, in Porto Alegre, Brazil.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- Portuguese, Brazilian
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 10:09