Show Me in the Bible Where I Can't Do That - Ask Pastor Tim

Perhaps you've caught a little bit of this

if you've been with us
in our Sunday service

the last two Sundays.

You might have picked
up a little bit of this.

It's kind of come across in being alive,

being raised up with Christ.

And we're really going
to get into this week

just being seated in the
heavenly places with Christ -

this whole perspective on
living the Christian's life.

And as I made mention,

maybe some of you are far more aware

than I am. You probably are.

Any of you that have Facebook,

I don't have a Facebook account

except whatever you see there

was created by James.

I don't have anything to do with it.

I never look at it.

I don't know what's on it.

If material gets added,
it's not me doing it.

It's somebody else.

But I know that our elders

recently have become aware

just of a situation

of professing Christians watching a movie

that, in my estimation,

is absolutely inappropriate

for a professing Christian.

And some of you may be aware

of what's being called the New Calvinism

or this Neo-Calvinism

or this "Young, Restless,
and Reformed" bunch.

I don't know how much you folks here -

some of you young people -

I don't know how much you
even know about that movement;

how much you actually
identify with that movement,

but one of the things that I saw -

it was months ago, but I saw

where John Piper was addressing

this New Calvinism.

And one of the things
that he feared about it

was that it is breeding antinomianism -

just a license for lawlessness;

just a license for sin.

This really seems to be abounding.

These guys like to talk election.

They like to talk predestination

and talk all about the different

high and lofty doctrines of Calvinism,

but they seem to be really lacking

when it comes to holiness.

And anyways, like I say,

our elders became aware of

some professing Christians.

And there was comment going back and forth

on the Internet about this

and about the appropriateness.

Well, let me just tell you.

I know from my wife used to bring up

this website called pluggedin.com,

where you can basically disect any movie

as far as the content, explicit content,

language, sex, violence,

occultic things, anything like that.

The movie that I have in mind here,

pluggedin.com says it has 50 F-words,

40 S-words,

God's name is misused repeatedly,

assorted other indecent language,

sex, violence, occult, hypnotists.

Pluggedin.com sizes up this movie

by saying it is bloody and profane.

And in the past,

we've actually had situations

where some of the
communication back and forth

has been about music.

People listening to music

that's got profanity,

or these worldly rap guys.

And this kind of discussion
seems to come up

where whether it's music,

whether it's something
people are watching on TV,

whether it's something people are
being exposed to on the Internet,

or movies people are going to,

and one of the things

that came out in this discussion

that I heard firsthand,

is "show me in the Bible

where it says I can't do that."

Okay, we look at that
and we say as Christians,

well, shouldn't our life
be guided by Scripture?

Absolutely.

I want everybody to totally understand.

I, in no way, am downplaying

the importance of Scripture

in the life of a Christian.

Not at all.

In fact, I want to emphasize

the necessity of Scripture to point out

what's really important
in the Christian life.

When somebody comes along and says -

you now, you want to talk to them

about some activity in their life.

(Brother, you want to jump over here?)

But you know, we can talk to people

about different things in their life

that don't seem appropriate;

seem out of place;

seem unfitting;

seem worldly;

seem indecent; seem profane.

And people want to say,

"Show me in the Bible where it says that."

It's like, "Show me the rules."

"Show me the law."

That kind of living
of the Christian life -

I want to attack that.

I want to deal with that.
I want to address that.

Because to live your life that way

is really to miss it.

That's not living the Christian life

according to New Testament principles.

It's something else.

In fact, it's a manifestation of legalism.

It's a manifestation of people

who want a list of rules,

and show me the rule that says

I can do that or can't do that.

It's basically, always
asking the question,

"What's permissible?"

What's permissible?

How close to the line can I live

and still be a Christian?

How much of the world can I bring in?

What's wrong with that?

What's wrong with drinking?

What's wrong with - the
thing is today - marijuana?

Or show me in the
Bible where it says that.

Show me in the Bible where it
says I'm supposed to evangelize.

Show me the rule.

Brethren, living your life that way

is a manifestation of nothing less

than legalism.

It's simply wanting to be
under a code of laws,

a code of ethics,

a list of rules,

and you need your
whole life guided by that.

Show me the rule.

There's just something about that.

When I hear that kind of language,

sometimes I'm amazed.

And I'm not the only one.

Listen to this.

Now, I know this quote isn't exactly

along the line of what
I'm talking about right now,

but it's close.

It's got some parallels.

Listen to this. This is John Piper

speaking actually about a quote

that he got from J.I. Packer.

Just hang with me here -

there's a connection. You'll see it.

Piper says this, "In the church,

we've developed all kinds

of Christ-coated remedies

that are shallow and short-lived.

We are not by and large
the deeply grounded saints

that some of our forefathers were.

J.I. Packer compares
the old English Puritans

who lived and suffered from 1550 to 1700

with the Redwoods of California.

They were giants whose roots

were incredibly deep in the Bible,

and whose branches reached to the heavens,

and whose trunks were
so strong and durable

they could endure forest fires

that scar them but don't kill them.

Packer says affluence seems

for the past generation to be making

dwarfs and deadheads of us all."

You see, that's what I don't want.

I don't want a room full
of dwarfs and deadheads.

Brethren, if regeneration is real

and it's the work of Almighty God

and He has actually taken people

and made new creations out of them,

and if indeed like we're
going to see on Sunday

we're seated in
heavenly places with Christ -

if that is true of us,

why are there not more Redwoods today?

Why deadheads?

Anyway...

"We do not have the patience

to sink the roots of hospitality

and brotherly kindness

and authentic love in the deep rock

of Romans 6-8."

Piper was preaching through those chapters

at the time that he said this.

"We want to jump straight

from the justification

to the practical
application of chapter 12.

Just give us a list."

The reason he goes to 12 -

the reason he's talking 5 and 12,

is because 5 deals
with justification by faith.

We have peace through God -
if you think about 5:1.

Our sins are forgiven

based on the merits
of what Jesus Christ did.

Just tell me about my redemption.

Tell me about my forgiveness.

And then take me to the list of rules.

Which, there are some lists of things

if you remember, if you think,

when you get 10 or 12 verses

into Romans 12,

you begin to get a list of various things

that come at us.

And he's saying that's how
most people want to live.

Tell me I'm forgiven.

Now give me the list of things.

So I can basically live my life that way.

Do this. Don't do that.

And just live our lives.

But see, the thing that Piper's hitting at

is that's what makes
for shallow Christians.

Tell me my sins are forgiven.
Give me the list of things to do.

That's not how we live the Christian life.

"Just give us a list.

Tell us what to do.

But the Puritans were different.

They looked at the book of Romans

and saw that life is built another way -

being a sage, being a redwood,

being unshakeable in storm

and useful in times of
indescribable suffering -

that does not come quickly or easily.

Romans is not two chapters long.

It's 16 chapters long.

It does not skip from chapter 5 to 12.

It leads us deep down into the roots

of godliness, so that when we come up,

we're not people with lists."

You see, that's the thing.

That's what's so amazing to me

is when people say,

"Show me in the Bible

where I shouldn't do that."

You see, that's where you
want to say to them,

"have you never read Romans 6-8?

Have you never plunged down in the depths

of 'sin no longer has dominion'?"

Eternal life is at the end of:

I've died to sin. I'm a slave to God.

I'm now bearing this fruit

unto sanctification.

The end of all of this is eternal life.

I'm not married to the law anymore.

I'm married to Christ and there's freedom.

Not freedom as a license to sin.

A freedom to serve God.

It's going through the depths

of that kind of teaching

before you ever get to any sort of list.

It says, "It leads us down deep

into the roots of godliness,

so that when we come up,

we're not people with lists,

but people with unshakeable life

and strength and holiness

and wisdom and love."

Now, listen to another Piper quote.

This is Piper - I believe it's when

he did his biographical sketch

of C.S. Lewis.

And he was actually talking about

as a young Christian,

trying to sort things out,

and he got exposure to C.S. Lewis.

And look, there's much that Lewis

says, does, did, believed -

I would not stand by it at all.

But here's what Piper said.

"Somehow there had been wakened in me

a passion for the essence

and the main point of life.

The ethical question whether something

is permissible..."

See, that's what he was dealing with.

As a young Christian, this idea

of asking that question all the time,

just looking at something and saying,

"is it permissible?"

"...faded in relationship to the question:

what is the main thing?
The essential thing?

The thought of building a life

around minimal morality

or minimal significance -

a life defined by the question:

what is permissible? -

felt almost disgusting to me.

I didn't want a minimal life.

I didn't want to live on
the outskirts of reality.

I wanted to understand
the main thing about life

and pursue it."

Now, I know I've been quoting Piper.

We're going to get to Scripture now.

But brethren, if you think about it.

Just think about the arguments

of the epistles,

or the way Jesus, when He had opportunity

to pull His disciples aside -

and He began teaching them.

Where in the world do you ever find

just a list of ethics?

A list of morality?

Christianity in the New Testament

is not just a list of rules.

"Show me in the Bible
where it says I can't do that."

Always looking for what's permissible.

That's dismal, horrible kind of religion.

Here's what Scripture
says as we're thinking

about the book of Romans.

You know what's interesting?

When you get to Romans 14 -

and what do we all know Romans 14 for?

What jumps out at you as being

one of the key
characteristics of Romans 14?

Romans 14 is where it talks to us

about having differences, right?

Some eat. Some don't eat.

Some observe the day.

Some don't observe the day.

Well, isn't that interesting?

Let's just think right there.

Is that a list of rules?

Actually, that's Paul telling people:

you know what?

That guy over there can do it.

That guy over there can't do it.

She can eat. She doesn't eat.

No list of rules.

There's much bigger things

than a list of rules.

Isn't that right?

And see, when he gets done with it,

you know what he says?

This is what? 14:17?

He says the kingdom of God

is not all about eating and drinking.

What's that?

That's rules.

It's not about a list of rules

as to whether I can drink alcohol or not.

That's not how you live your life.

It's not simply:

is it permissible for a
Christian to drink wine?

After all, Jesus Christ - look what He did

over there at the wedding.

That's not how you live.

Yes, we take those things
into consideration.

We look at them, but as
we live out our life,

the question we're not always asking

is: is it permissible?

Can I eat? Can I not eat?

Yes, there are verses that say

that if you forbid people to eat,

it's demonic doctrine.

There are those who come along and say

you can't eat, you can't marry.

We know. There's demon doctrine out there.

We need to be able to
distinguish between them.

But brethren, can't you hear Paul here?

He's saying to the Romans

there's bigger issues

than rules around eating and drinking.

That's not the issue.

The kingdom of God is about righteousness.

What else?

It's about peace.

It's about joy in the Holy Spirit.

You see, joy in the Holy Spirit.

I just had a meeting not too long before

the Bible study tonight.

And a sister was telling me about

a season in her life

where she lacked assurance.

And she told me right off,

she'd grieved the Spirit. She knew it.

Joy in the Holy Spirit.

See, those are the kind of
questions to be asking.

Is this going to bring any shadow

between me and the Lord?

Because I don't want that.

See, it's not, "is it permissible?"

I feel like Piper -

that kind of thinking is disgusting

for a Christian to even
think on that level -

or professing Christian.

In the end, what we're going to find

is many people who talk that way -

the reason they talk that way

is because they're under the law.

And that's how people under the law think.

That's how slaves think.

(incomplete thought)

See, the slave doesn't enjoy

what the master tells him to do.

But he's always aware of the law,

of the rules.

Because if he doesn't do the rule,

what's going to happen?

He's going to get punished.

He's going to get whipped.

He's going to get beat.

He's going to get his leg chopped off.

You do what the master says

or there's consequences.

See, you're always mindful of the rules.

The rules, the rules, the rules.

That is to be under the law.

(incomplete thought)

The legalist is absorbed with rules

rather than with God;

rather than with his fellow man

in true holiness.

Life is viewed as primarily what I do.

It's breaking all my actions down.

The do's, the don't's,

the particular actions all in terms of:

is it permissible?

Is it not?

Versus: the kingdom of God

is about righteousness.

It's about what pleases the King.

See, righteousness -

that's the character of the King,

the Kingdom of God.

That's the character of the King Himself.

What is the character of God?

How can I be like Him?

What does Peter say?

Does Peter not call us to be holy?

Why?

Be ye holy. Why?

What's the argument?

Come on, folks.

James: They're whispering back here.

Tim: Let's be aggressive.

What was it?

Yeah, you shall be holy, for I am holy.

Listen to Ephesians 4.

Ephesians 4:17 and following.

We're going to come
to this in our studies,

but you know what?

Paul comes along and he says

you shouldn't walk
like Gentiles any longer.

You shouldn't act like them.

You shouldn't live your lives that way,

walk like the Gentiles do

in the futility of their mind.

He basically breaks down how they live.

They're alienated from the life of God.

They're living in all this sensuality.

What's the reason?

Because Jesus Christ gave you a list

of do's and don't's?

You know what he says?

That is not the way you learned Christ,

assuming that you have learned Him.

Isn't that interesting?
He tacks that on the end.

You see, that's the issue.

How did you learn Christ?

Let me ask you this -

I would just ask you all this:

When you do something with your life,

how did you learn Christ?

I mean, that's the kind of question

that needs to be going through your mind.

You know what I learn about Him?

I learn when I get to the book of Acts,

He came and He went about doing good.

You know what's amazing to me?

Well, you think about this.

You all now what's happening out there

in social media and what
the discussions are about

far more than I do.

Let me ask you a question.

The people who it seems like

are legalists -

show them a rule.

That's how they talk all the time.

Show me a rule for that.

Show me a rule for that.

Is that who you want
for a husband or wife?

"I want you to hug me."
"Show me a rule for that!"

Look, if you start to even contemplate

that on that level -

a wife says, "I want my
husband to hold me,"

and the husband says,
"show me a rule for that."

You don't want a husband like that.

Can you see how God would be

absolutely disgusted

with that kind of life?

Listen, there is a huge difference

between morality and holiness.

This idea of just
basically living your life

according to some moral code:

"Show me where it says that."

"Show me where I have to do that."

Like this argument against evangelism.

People who say,

"Show me in the Bible..."

Back in William Carey's day,

that was a big thing.

They wanted to downplay
the Great Commission

as though it was only for the apostles.

Carey came along and said -

he used numerous arguments,

but his main one being,

look, the promise is that
Christ will be with us

to the end of the age.

Doesn't that mean that our responsibility

to go to all of the nations

is a responsibility that lasts

as long as the promise does?

Certainly so.

But look, let me just ask this.

It's the old: if you have
the cure for cancer,

and the world all around
you is dying of cancer...

"Show me a rule where it
says I have to go share

the remedy with everybody else."

See, that's what the legalist does.

Show me the law.

Show me the rule.

I don't care if the rest
of the world goes to hell.

You see what's operating there?

The kingdom is not about a list of rules.

It's Jesus saying love one another

the way I loved you.

Now, I know that's among Christians,

but we have a responsibility to
love our neighbor as ourselves

out there in this world.

If I have the remedy

to save people's souls from hell,

am I going to sit there and debate?

"Show me in the Bible
where I have to go do that!"

It's like what is wrong with you?

Something is wrong with that person.

Just like something is
wrong with the person

that can come out of a movie

with 50 F-bombs dropped
in the middle of it -

"Show me in the Bible
where I can't do that."

It's like seriously?

Let me ask you guys a question.

If you were in the worst part -

not of this city,
this is a rather tame city -

let's talk St. Louis
or Detroit or Chicago.

You imagine you're in
one of the worst parts

of one of those cities.

You're in an alley.

And you see four guys -

all you can see is their silhouette

from the streetlight behind them.

They're walking down
the alley towards you

and they're huge.

Would it comfort you more

to know that they had just
come out of a Bible study?

Or that all four of them
just came out of a movie

where 50 F-bombs were dropped?

Which would make you feel more comfortable

walking down that alley?

There's testimony issues.

Let me ask you this.

The guy who's always arguing about why

he doesn't have a biblical responsibility

to evangelize,

or just questions like that:

"Show me in the Bible where
I'm supposed to do that."

If you were sick at the end of your life

and you had to be cared for by somebody,

is that the kind of person you want

caring for you?

"Show me in the Bible where it says that!"

That doesn't produce righteousness

and peace and joy and love.

You know what does that?

Learning of Jesus.

Jesus said, "Learn of Me."

He said, "Take My yoke."

He said, "Learn of Me."

You see, that's where Paul's coming from.

That's not the way you
learned Jesus Christ.

Oh brethren, think with me here.

Many of you know from
Brother Charles' book

about the story of Evangeline Booth.

William Booth, Salvation Army -

his daughter.

You know the story if
you've read the book.

Perhaps some of you know it beyond there.

Where they were bringing the woman -

prisoner, guards carrying her.

There's Evangeline
standing off to the side.

"How can I reach this woman?"

Suddenly, she just steps out there

and kisses the woman on the cheek.

Show me a law that says
you have to do that.

There's no law.

There's no rule.

I can tell you if I'm
at the end of my life

and you're saying,

who do you want to care for you?

The person who could go

watch filthy, bloody, profane,

God's name dragged through the mud movies,

sex - and want to defend their right

to go watch it.

You're at the end of your life.

Do you want that person to care for you?

Or Evangeline Booth?

Brethren, it speaks volumes.

There is a kind of
New Testament Christianity -

do you learn from Christ

that going to movies like that -

would He do it?

Look, if you say yes, I believe He would,

then you have a different
Christ than the One I have.

What I have isn't the issue.

That's a different Christ
than the One here.

Here's the problem with people like that.

They go through their life constantly
asking what's permissible,

rather than what can I do?

You see, when I hear about the fact

that we're supposed to let our good works

be seen before men

that they might glorify
our Father in Heaven;

or like Peter says,

"glorify God in the day of visitation," -

again, it's got to do with them
seeing our good works.

And Jesus saying, "The works
I did, you will do..." believer.

Greater works.

You see, one of the things is,

people that are always asking,

"Where's the line?"
"Where's the minimal line?"

"What's permissible?"

"What can I get away with?"

"Show me in the Bible where it says that."

You know what people
like that are not doing?

All they're doing is walking through life

constrained by legalistic codes,

and they're not people who just freely fly

on the wings of an eagle to do good.

Brethren, the life of the
Christian is not just:

"Show me where I can't do that."

(Incomplete thought)

I met with a couple today

who were telling me about their desires

to help care for inner city kids.

Again, I ask you,

you're 89 years old.

A family member, somebody from the church,

somebody's going to take care of you.

You want it to be the person

who is thinking:
how can I care for children?

Versus living their life like:

"I can go to that movie."

"Show me in the Bible
where it says I can't."

What kind of Christianity do you all want?

What kind of person would
you want caring for you?

What kind of person would you
want to meet in that alley?

Righteousness, peace,

joy in the Holy Spirit.

Morality - it's always concerned

with specific actions.

Where holiness is a life picture.

Am I being conformed to the image of God?

Am I being conformed
to the image of Christ?

Is true righteousness all of my life?

Is it there?

Brethren, everything
in the legalist's mind

just gets boiled down
to individual actions.

"Is it permissible?"

"Is it right? Is it wrong?"

"Give me a rule."
"Give me rules."

You see, that's what Packer was saying

about the Puritans.

Their lives are buried deep.

It's kind of like the doctrines
we're going through in Ephesians.

You notice, this is not a list of rules.

What we're dealing with is Paul

saying to Christians,

as you live your life,
live in the reality:

alive with Christ,
raised up with Christ,

seated with Christ in the heavenly places

in Christ Jesus.

That's the reality.

We're living life on another plane.

We're going to look at texts

that tie in over to Colossians.

But you're setting your
minds on things above

where Christ is seated.

You're living on another plane.

You're living in another realm.

You're outside of this
minimal morality mentality.

(incomplete thought).

Brethren, don't you see

when you come to the New Testament,

and you find the
legalists were always like:

"Hey! Hey! Put down your bedding!

What do you think you're doing?

It's the Sabbath!

Not permissible to do that!"

You see, we can look and we can say,

yeah, how did David eat the show bread

which he was not supposed to eat?

Because brethren, that right there

goes to the heart of the matter.

Paul made as strong a case
as anybody in the Scriptures

that you should pay those
who minister the gospel.

And yet, he was the first one to say

to the Corinthians and
to the Thessalonians,

"I'm not going to take anything."

Wait!

You set down a law!

Don't muzzle the ox!

That's the law!

You better pay me!

(incomplete thought)

You see, you miss it.

You miss it if you don't recognize

that Jesus let the adulteress walk.

You say, hey, wait a second.

The law said stone her.

Or He healed on the Sabbath.

Or He let His disciples pick grain,

rub them in their hands and eat.

Or He told the lame

to pick up their bedding and walk.

They were "breaking the rules."

(Incomplete thought).

But you see, if you're just

contrained by rules,

you don't get it.

Jesus looked at those
Pharisees and He said,

"That's exactly your problem.

You're all about rules."

And all rules do is they
leave you on the surface -

this thin veneer of morality.

That's all it is, because in the heart,
it's a person under the law.

Because in the heart, they
really don't want to do it.

They're just keeping the rule

because they're afraid of the punishment;

they're afraid of the
consequences if they don't do it.

They're just trapped in there.

Rather than standing back and saying:

Look, I want mercy, not sacrifice.

That's all the rule
keeping is is sacrifice.

If you could prove to that person,

like, you go over to Ephesians 5

and you say, look, filthiness,

crude jesting, it's not appropriate.

Oh, okay, you showed me the rule.

Okay, the movie that I wanted to go see,

now I can't because I've got a law.

That is such the wrong way.

The wrong way.

Brethren, you know what you find?

The Apostle Paul - think of Philippians 3.

The Apostle Paul, when he was lost -

religious, moral.

It's all about the rules.

Boy, I was circumcised on the right day

according to the rule.

I mean, when it came to the law,

I dotted every "I", I crossed every "t."

I was right on.

I was blameless.

Give me a rule - I was right there.

I kept them.

But what happens once he's saved?

You see how his attitude changed?

What does he say then?

Oh, that I might know Him

and the power of His resurrection.

Look, we live our lives;

we do things.

But it's not a matter of
a list of right or wrong,

just like Romans 14.

It's not: could I in certain circumstance

drink wine?

It's not just the rule.

Paul's looking back and he's looking

at how this affects people;

how your decisions are a reflection

of God Himself;

how it reflects what you've
been taught of Christ;

how it reflects righteousness;

how it reflects peace;

how it reflects joy in the Holy Spirit.

It's just living on an
entirely higher plane.

It's got to do with what does God think?

What's His will?

What's going to be pleasing?

What's going to bring His smile?

It's living on that level.

(incomplete thought)

Listen, you know the Bible talks about

bad companionship

corrupts good manners.

And you can go to the Proverbs

and you could find:

you want to be wise?

Walk with the wise.

You want to be a fool?
Walk with fools.

You know what?

It's almost like with the
invention of electricity,

we don't define companions

the right way anymore.

I read a story one time

about a family that let an old man

move into their house.

And he sat over in the corner.

And he was filthy. He was lewd.

He used God's name in vain.

He just did graphic things,

and the whole gist of the story

was that old man sitting in the corner

doing all those things
and being tolerated by the family

was a picture of the television.

The thing is it's almost like

we have come to the place where we think

that a person isn't a companion

if a TV screen or a computer
screen separates us.

That's not true.

What is a companion?

This has to do with the idea

of people we surround ourselves with.

People who we allow to influence us.

You may not have a person

come into your house,

but you may expose yourself

on the Internet to people who end up

influencing you;

people that end up saying things;

people that end up injecting

a worldview into your mind;

people that end up
being a worldly example;

people that do things

(incomplete thought).

Listen, there was a reason why

way before movies,

way before TV, way before Internet,

you put people out of the church.

Anybody remember what
one of those reasons was?

A little leaven leavens the whole lump?

It's amazing how now

with all of our electronic apparatuses,

we allow people to influence us

that church discipline was meant

to eradicate from our lives,

or right decisions about companionship

were meant to eradicate from our lives.

You start asking yourself:

do you think you can
sit in front of a movie

with sex, a horror movie,

with graphic language, God defamed,

absolutely un-Christian values,

worldly perspectives,

and that you're going to be uninfluenced?

Is that the way you learn Christ?

Now, here's what I learn from Christ,

that if I have the opportunity

to find people like that

and to see to be the
one that's the aggressor;

to seek to be the one on the offensive;

to seek to be the one who goes to the sick

bringing the message of the doctor,

then that's good.

Eating with publicans and sinners,

tax collectors - that's good;

when we're the one setting the agenda;

when we're going in to bring light.

But you know the problem is

TV's, movie screens, Internet -

Internet I guess you have some ability

to communicate back and forth,

but typically you don't have that.

You don't go to the movie to positively

influence the actors.

(Incomplete thought).

Many of you know,

every Sunday afternoon, I'm watching -

I've got all ten "Dispatches
from the Front" in here,

and I just go through them.

It keeps my missionary juices flowing.

Very often, Friday nights,

I love to watch the Q&A times.

Ligonier, oftentimes Sproul, MacArthur,

different men.

There's things that can be

tremendously profitable.

There can be things that can be

tremendously profitable

to bring the family together.

You can watch certain
documentaries on nature

and you can see God's handiwork

and get a perspective on
some things in this world

that just blow your mind

and cause you to
think bigger views of God.

But you see, you're evaluating

everything from that perspective.

Is this going to cause me to worship God?

To see God as bigger?

Is this going to cause
me to walk more holy?

Is this going to cause
me to learn of Christ?

Is this going to somehow
help me in my run?

Or is this going to impact
my joy in the Holy Spirit?

This idea, brethren, what's permissible?

Oh, if you've been saved

by the blood of Christ,

you can't get away from it.

It's like every book in our Bible

just calls us to recognize,

we ought to be living on another plane.

And we've got the power to live

on that higher plane.

This idea of just walking around

all the time being guided by

a list of rules.

You don't need a list of rules

for the refrigerator.

No more than if you get married,

you need a list of rules

how to treat your wife.

"Don't beat your wife.

Kiss wife in morning.

Say goodbye when you leave."

Your wife would be appalled at that.

Listen, don't try to
construct God differently.

God created relationships
between man and woman -

between us as a reflection

of a greater relationship.

He wants our heart.

He wants our passions.

He wants us to do things from love.

He wants us to be spontaneous.

It doesn't mean there
isn't a place for thinking.

It doesn't mean there isn't a
place for studying Scripture.

It doesn't mean there isn't a place

to let the light of Scripture shine

and to be moved and motivated

by the Spirit of God through it.

But brethren, living a life

where righteousness becomes

the spontaneous reaction

and imitating Christ

and walking because we love

and we delight in Him.

We appreciate our friendship,

our relationship with Him.

You read that - 1 John -

we're walking in the light

and we have fellowship.

When you get to the place where you

appreciate fellowship and you want to fast

not because there's a law;

not because Jesus said,

"When you fast..." that means it's a law.

Got to do the law.

When the church fasts
quarterly, got to do it.

No, it's when you look and you say,

"Lord, I just want to
clear all the food out,

because I need You, Lord.

I need You.

I feel like there is a dryness.

I feel like a shadow has come between us.

Lord, I want to quicken...

Lord, I want You to draw near."

Brethren, you know,

that is what pleases the Lord.

When it's all mechanical,

when it's all rule keeping,

that is not pleasing to Him.

That is ugly religion.

That is legalism.

Legalists are always concerned

with the rules - not with God;

not with loving their fellow man.

They're concerned with the rules.

Show me the rule to keep.

Rule keeping, rule keeping, rule keeping.

Brethren, I know that there are laws

in Scripture.

I know that.

But you know as well as I do,

if you just let your mind go,

you know -

Jesus came along and He said,

look, I know you had a law

that said not to commit adultery.

But look, it's way beyond that.

It's way beyond that.
It's learning of Jesus.

How do you learn Jesus?

Oh, He was pure.

He wasn't rude to women.

He was kind to them.

He treated them with
the utmost of respect.

He revealed Himself to Mary first

when He was risen.

There He was - she thought
He was the gardener.

They were gathered around the cross.

He took care of His mother.

"John, behold your mother."

You just watch the way
He dealt with women.

It's not a rule.

It's not constantly living a rule.

Oh, if I look at this,

and I'm living in fear of the penalty.

See, slaves live in fear of the penalty

all the time.

It's purity.

Fleeing youthful lusts.

It's wanting to stay pure.

It's wanting to be holy.

It's not wanting these things

to impact my life,

because I don't want to lose sight

of God's face.

I don't want to lose power.

There is a power to do good.

There's an enabling.

The Spirit of God quickens us.

The Spirit of God gives gifts.

The Spirit of God gives grace.

The Spirit of God empowers us.

I don't want to lose that.

Quenching the Spirit.

You've got grieving the Spirit -

that's the idea of a
person that's grieved.

That's more of the relationship.

Quenching is more of the power,

the fire, the light.

I don't want that.

And brethren, you know,

when we fail, when we fall,

when we do things,

He's faithful and just to forgive us.

Scripture says so.

And there's a place to run back to Him

and not to hesitate.

(Incomplete thought).

Brethren, we need to live

in the reality of that.

That we're justified

and that we have free access to Him

all the time.

And we can run back.

But we know that grievance

in our own heart of having offended Him,

losing sight of Him.

You now what Peter went through

after denying the Lord.

And seasons, if we quench the Spirit,

we can't find Him.

You remember how it was with Christian

when he lost his scroll?

He's just cursing himself.

Ugh! I had to walk the
same ground three times

that I only needed to walk once.

Why? Because of his foolishness.

He went to sleep there

at the top of the hill of difficulty

at the stile that was made

for the rest of the weary pilgrim.

But he fell asleep there.

He had to walk the same
ground three times.

See, it's living with a bigger picture.

I don't want to keep walking

the same ground over and over.

I don't want to fall backwards.

I don't want to lose ground.

I don't want to lose His smile.

I don't want to lose His fellowship.

I don't to lose a sense of His love.

I don't want to lose any of His power.

I don't want that.

I want righteousness.

I want it to be overflowing.

I want to be moving upward
and upward and upward.

I want to see Him more.

Oh, that I might know Him.

Driven like that.

As I just mentioned on Sunday,

living like the psalmist

with a heart that pants after God

like the deer is panting after the water.

You see, when we live like that,

if you look up,

eyeball to eyeball with God,

I just have to believe,

people who can listen
to foul, filthy music

and watch dirtbag movies,

are they on their knees before they go?

Are they asking the Lord,

"Help and guide me to do
the most holy things today?"

"Help me to be like Evangeline Booth."

"Help me to look for opportunities

where I can love somebody;

where I can plant a kiss."

Oh, to have the grace to know

when to kiss a woman on the cheek

and when it's inappropriate.

And what's the kindest thing to do?

And to have the right words to speak?

My wife said when we got in a discussion

about this, she said, you know what?

She said, I think that there are

just some of God's people

who don't know what it's like

to actually have holiness in their life

and live in the power of that.

I'm probably not saying it
exactly how she said it.

But she said it something like that.

And I think there's a reality there.

I think we have some -

whether they're just professing Christians

or whether they're just immature ones,

they just don't know what it is

to really experience the power of God

that comes with a truly holy life -

a consistently holy life.

It's like once you've tasted

certain things in the Christian life,

once you've tasted that the Lord is good,

you don't want to go back.

You don't want to go back.

You don't only not want to go back

to how it was when you were lost,

you don't want to go back to how it was

when you were a less mature Christian.

You want more.

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