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Does politics justify cynicism and disillusionment? | Éric Montpetit | TEDxMontreal

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    When you think about politics,
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    you probably think
    of images of great debates,
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    of shocking statements,
    or of protesters who demonstrate.
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    Unlikely to come to mind
    are images of public consultations,
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    of government reports,
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    or of expert meetings
    in a room without decorations.
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    The politics we show you
    is the one that entertains.
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    You are not shown the politics that works.
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    Why?
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    As a public policy specialist,
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    this is a question I've been asking myself
    for more than 20 years.
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    I am convinced that politics
    works better than we think
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    and that the cynicism about it
    is exaggerated.
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    But we cannot count on the media
    to make us understand this.
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    Almost exactly 28 years ago,
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    I was glued to the screen
    of my television,
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    like millions of viewers around the world,
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    watching images like this one,
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    showing the start of a war,
    the first Gulf War.
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    Thanks to the continuous news,
    which was in its very early stages,
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    we could see, live,
    the progress of this war
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    hour by hour.
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    The news then took a captivating turn.
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    After the war,
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    to keep their ratings,
    to keep your attention,
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    the media turned to the most
    spectacular aspects of politics:
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    to the controversies
    and conflicts of politicians
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    that are well illustrated
    by the first images that I showed you.
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    Today, the medias are forced
    to show you a politics that entertains.
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    The continuous news
    has transformed the media dynamic,
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    and social media has only
    accentuated the phenomenon.
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    Politicians, who need to be seen,
    and other political actors too
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    have adjusted to this new
    political context.
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    To be seen, they don't hesitate
    to shout their indignation.
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    And sometimes they scream very loud.
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    They put on a show.
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    If rather than showing you Donald Trump,
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    you were shown images
    of a rational discussion
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    on a serious subject of public policy -
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    the regulation of maritime
    transport for example,
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    a committee discussion
    much like what we see on the screen -
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    you would quickly go watch something else.
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    The politics that works
    is less entertaining.
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    It captivates the public less.
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    When was the last time
    you visited a government website
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    to inform yourself about public policy?
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    The minimum wage policy for example
    or the food safety policy?
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    Information like this is easy to find.
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    Since the advent of the Internet,
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    governments have required themselves
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    to release a wealth of information
    about what they are doing.
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    Today, Western democracies
    are more transparent
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    than they have ever been.
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    But I suppose you are like me.
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    In the evening, when you get home
    after a long day at work,
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    you do not want to read the latest report
    from the Labor Department
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    on the threshold beyond which
    the minimum wage harms the economy
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    or that of the Department of Health
    on microbial contamination
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    in poultry slaughterhouses.
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    We prefer more entertaining content.
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    Besides, some time ago, I participated
    in a television program with journalists
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    during which I deplored
    a media coverage of politics
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    that I find too negative.
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    The present journalists
    were quick to remind me
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    that when they show positive news,
    people change channels.
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    So, there is a trap
    that is difficult to get out of.
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    We show you the politics that entertains
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    because if we showed you
    the politics that works,
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    you would look elsewhere.
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    The political conflicts that entertain you
    also fuel your cynicism.
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    They undermine your confidence
    in the political system.
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    So, your attitude towards politics
    becomes more and more negative.
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    When Canadians are asked
    which professions they see positively,
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    only 24% mention politics.
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    In contrast,
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    89% of the Canadian population
    mentions scientists.
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    And these results
    are not unique to Canada.
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    Similar results have been obtained
    in the United States and Europe.
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    Such cynicism about politics is dangerous.
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    It sets the table for politicians
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    who, like Donald Trump,
    want to tear the system apart.
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    And it would be a shame
    if they were to succeed
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    because politics has improved
    our lives considerably
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    since the end of the Second World War,
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    and it continues to do so.
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    How?
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    By working a bit like science,
    which obviously inspires confidence.
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    Scientists are often part
    of the politics that works.
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    We don't set health standards
    in slaughterhouses
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    without talking to microbiologists.
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    Nor do we set the minimum wage
    without talking to economists.
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    You should also know that the scientists
    who participate in the politics that works
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    often come from universities.
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    They, therefore, enjoy great independence.
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    And perhaps a little
    because of this independence,
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    their messages don't always
    suit politicians.
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    Indeed, scientists want their knowledge
    to be used to improve policy,
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    not to entertain an audience
    fond of conflicts.
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    They don't like to be part of a show.
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    When politicians and the media
    take too much interest in them,
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    they quickly return to the tranquility
    of their laboratories
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    and abandon any involvement
    in the political world.
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    In 2012, I participated in a conference
    in Boulder, Colorado,
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    which brought together
    great researchers on climate change,
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    some of whom were among the first
    to make us understand
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    the seriousness of this problem.
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    After hearing a few presentations,
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    I had a doubt,
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    wondering if I was attending a conference
    of climate skeptics instead.
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    Knowledge that I thought was solid
    was seriously questioned.
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    Everything was scrutinized:
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    the ways to estimate
    the temperature of the past,
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    the methods of measuring
    the current temperature,
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    and the validity of the simulations
    that are used to predict future changes.
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    Obviously, no cameras in the room.
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    I quickly understood I wasn't attending
    a climate skeptics conference.
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    What I saw was nothing other than
    the scientific method at work.
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    Science advances knowledge
    by constantly questioning it.
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    And scientists build their credibility
    by adopting this attitude.
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    Now imagine a politician you would elect
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    because you like his position
    on climate change.
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    Imagine him casting doubt,
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    not on the existence of climate change,
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    but on the relevance of a carbon tax
    to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
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    You should know that there are
    other policies that achieve this goal
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    and that the carbon tax is certainly not
    a superior option to these other policies.
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    Doubting would therefore be legitimate.
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    But in the context
    of the politics that entertains,
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    your politician would quickly
    be pilloried by his opponents.
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    They would say that he lacks conviction,
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    that he yields to pressure easily,
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    that he is weak,
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    and in the face of these criticisms,
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    perhaps you would yourself feel
    like you have been betrayed
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    by your politicians.
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    But in fact, he would only have behaved
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    like a scientist who questions
    his knowledge in view of improving it.
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    This is no doubt why scientists run away
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    when they are expected to participate
    in the politics that entertains.
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    The politics that entertains
    is a politics of conflicts.
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    Its participants must make exaggerated
    remarks about their adversaries
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    with absolute confidence.
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    Criticism, attacks
    are more about opponents
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    than about arguments.
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    Doubting is not allowed.
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    Doubts are associated with weakness.
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    Anyone who doubts would immediately
    be called a flip flop.
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    In contrast,
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    science is a world of caution,
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    nuances,
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    questioning,
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    doubt,
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    and sometimes of opinion change.
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    Again,
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    scientists are improving their knowledge
    by constantly questioning it.
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    Scientists are often comfortable
    with the politics that works
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    because it has
    a lot in common with science.
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    The politics that works
    is open to diverse view points,
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    it is moderate,
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    it is centered on arguments,
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    and it allows everyone
    to doubt their opinions.
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    Now,
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    we should avoid opposing too much
    the politics that entertains
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    to the politics that works.
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    If politics works overall,
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    it's because people who participate
    in the politics that entertains
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    are also able to contribute
    to the politics that works.
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    For more than 10 years,
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    my research has focused on the policy
    of genetically modified organisms, GMOs,
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    in North America and Europe.
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    One day in Brussels,
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    I see a report in a newspaper
    on one of the famous anti-GMO operations
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    organized by Greenpeace,
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    much like the one we see on the screen.
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    In the report,
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    a representative of the industry
    reacted to the operation.
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    With great indignation,
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    he asserted that Greenpeace,
    basically, had only one goal:
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    not environmental protection,
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    but industry bankruptcy.
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    A few days later, I came across
    this same industry representative
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    at a meeting organized
    by the European Commission
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    on its regulation
    on the traceability of GMO seeds.
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    In addition to industry representatives,
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    the meeting included scientists,
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    consumer representatives,
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    farm groups,
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    and environmentalists,
    including Greenpeace.
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    At the meeting, no one
    accused anyone of anything.
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    The discussions focused
    on each other's arguments.
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    All participants were working
    to improve the regulation.
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    No wonder the meeting helped
    improve the regulation
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    and at least in my view, strengthened
    the credibility of the participants.
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    Meetings of this type take place daily
    in the capitals of Western democracies.
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    And they improve our lives.
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    The food we eat is safer than ever,
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    as are our means of transportation
    and our workplaces.
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    In many locations, crime
    has been decreasing steadily for years.
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    We are preserving our heritage better
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    and have more protected
    green spaces than before.
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    Air quality in our cities is better,
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    and access to health care,
    although imperfect,
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    has nothing to do
    with what it was 50 years ago.
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    Our life expectancy has never been longer.
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    Unfortunately,
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    we too rarely realize that this progress
    is due to public policy
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    because the politics that we are shown
    is the politics that entertains.
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    This politics also
    unduly increases our cynicism.
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    How to get out of the trap?
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    By being well aware that politics
    is more than what we see in the media.
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    Politics is not
    just the politicians we know.
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    It's also meetings
    of people you don't know.
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    In the evening, after a long day at work,
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    you can continue to watch
    politicians who fight on TV
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    rather than reading
    a government report on public policy.
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    The quarrels of politicians
    are much more entertaining.
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    I prefer to watch that too.
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    But be aware that alongside this
    exists a politics that is less visible,
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    much less glamorous,
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    but much more important.
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    A politics that engages people
    who do not necessarily seek notoriety,
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    but who have experience, expertise,
    and knowledge useful for public policy.
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    People who can doubt
    and reconsider their opinion
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    when the arguments of others justify it.
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    This politics works.
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    It improves our lives.
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    Like science,
    politics deserves our trust.
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    We should be less cynical.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Does politics justify cynicism and disillusionment? | Éric Montpetit | TEDxMontreal
Description:

Cynicism and disillusionment with politics has reached new heights in Western democracies. Why? Éric Montpetit, a specialist in public policy, argues that since the early 1990s the media coverage of politics shows a politics that entertains at the expense of a politics that works. The public is thus kept in the dark that alongside the vicious attacks between political adversaries, there is a more peaceful policy that improves our lives. In his talk, Montpetit lifts the veil on this working policy.

Éric Montpetit is a political science professor at the Université de Montréal and vice-dean - teaching staff - at the Faculty of Arts and Sciences. He has a Ph.D in comparative and Canadian public policy at McMaster University. He has authored three books, co-authored three others and published over 80 articles or book chapters. His latest book, In Defense of Pluralism: Policy Disagreement and Its Media Coverage, was published by Cambridge University Press in 2016. Montpetit's work examines the politics of scientific expertise that engages when public policy stakeholders begin to express divergent views on government action.

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