Does politics justify cynicism and disillusionment? | Éric Montpetit | TEDxMontreal
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0:13 - 0:15When you think about politics,
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0:15 - 0:20you probably think
of images of great debates, -
0:21 - 0:26of shocking statements,
or of protesters who demonstrate. -
0:27 - 0:33Unlikely to come to mind
are images of public consultations, -
0:34 - 0:36of government reports,
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0:37 - 0:43or of expert meetings
in a room without decorations. -
0:44 - 0:49The politics we show you
is the one that entertains. -
0:50 - 0:53You are not shown the politics that works.
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0:53 - 0:55Why?
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0:55 - 0:58As a public policy specialist,
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0:58 - 1:01this is a question I've been asking myself
for more than 20 years. -
1:02 - 1:06I am convinced that politics
works better than we think -
1:07 - 1:11and that the cynicism about it
is exaggerated. -
1:12 - 1:16But we cannot count on the media
to make us understand this. -
1:17 - 1:19Almost exactly 28 years ago,
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1:20 - 1:23I was glued to the screen
of my television, -
1:23 - 1:27like millions of viewers around the world,
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1:27 - 1:30watching images like this one,
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1:30 - 1:34showing the start of a war,
the first Gulf War. -
1:34 - 1:39Thanks to the continuous news,
which was in its very early stages, -
1:40 - 1:45we could see, live,
the progress of this war -
1:45 - 1:46hour by hour.
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1:47 - 1:51The news then took a captivating turn.
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1:52 - 1:53After the war,
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1:54 - 1:57to keep their ratings,
to keep your attention, -
1:58 - 2:02the media turned to the most
spectacular aspects of politics: -
2:03 - 2:06to the controversies
and conflicts of politicians -
2:06 - 2:10that are well illustrated
by the first images that I showed you. -
2:12 - 2:19Today, the medias are forced
to show you a politics that entertains. -
2:19 - 2:24The continuous news
has transformed the media dynamic, -
2:24 - 2:27and social media has only
accentuated the phenomenon. -
2:28 - 2:34Politicians, who need to be seen,
and other political actors too -
2:34 - 2:37have adjusted to this new
political context. -
2:37 - 2:43To be seen, they don't hesitate
to shout their indignation. -
2:43 - 2:46And sometimes they scream very loud.
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2:47 - 2:49They put on a show.
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2:49 - 2:52If rather than showing you Donald Trump,
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2:53 - 2:57you were shown images
of a rational discussion -
2:57 - 3:00on a serious subject of public policy -
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3:01 - 3:05the regulation of maritime
transport for example, -
3:05 - 3:09a committee discussion
much like what we see on the screen - -
3:09 - 3:12you would quickly go watch something else.
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3:12 - 3:16The politics that works
is less entertaining. -
3:16 - 3:18It captivates the public less.
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3:20 - 3:26When was the last time
you visited a government website -
3:26 - 3:29to inform yourself about public policy?
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3:29 - 3:35The minimum wage policy for example
or the food safety policy? -
3:35 - 3:38Information like this is easy to find.
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3:39 - 3:41Since the advent of the Internet,
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3:41 - 3:43governments have required themselves
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3:44 - 3:47to release a wealth of information
about what they are doing. -
3:48 - 3:52Today, Western democracies
are more transparent -
3:52 - 3:54than they have ever been.
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3:55 - 3:58But I suppose you are like me.
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3:59 - 4:03In the evening, when you get home
after a long day at work, -
4:03 - 4:07you do not want to read the latest report
from the Labor Department -
4:08 - 4:12on the threshold beyond which
the minimum wage harms the economy -
4:12 - 4:17or that of the Department of Health
on microbial contamination -
4:17 - 4:19in poultry slaughterhouses.
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4:21 - 4:24We prefer more entertaining content.
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4:25 - 4:30Besides, some time ago, I participated
in a television program with journalists -
4:30 - 4:34during which I deplored
a media coverage of politics -
4:34 - 4:35that I find too negative.
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4:36 - 4:40The present journalists
were quick to remind me -
4:40 - 4:44that when they show positive news,
people change channels. -
4:47 - 4:51So, there is a trap
that is difficult to get out of. -
4:52 - 4:54We show you the politics that entertains
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4:54 - 4:57because if we showed you
the politics that works, -
4:58 - 4:59you would look elsewhere.
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5:00 - 5:05The political conflicts that entertain you
also fuel your cynicism. -
5:05 - 5:09They undermine your confidence
in the political system. -
5:10 - 5:15So, your attitude towards politics
becomes more and more negative. -
5:16 - 5:22When Canadians are asked
which professions they see positively, -
5:22 - 5:29only 24% mention politics.
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5:30 - 5:31In contrast,
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5:31 - 5:3789% of the Canadian population
mentions scientists. -
5:37 - 5:39And these results
are not unique to Canada. -
5:39 - 5:44Similar results have been obtained
in the United States and Europe. -
5:46 - 5:50Such cynicism about politics is dangerous.
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5:51 - 5:53It sets the table for politicians
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5:53 - 5:56who, like Donald Trump,
want to tear the system apart. -
5:57 - 6:00And it would be a shame
if they were to succeed -
6:00 - 6:05because politics has improved
our lives considerably -
6:05 - 6:07since the end of the Second World War,
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6:07 - 6:09and it continues to do so.
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6:10 - 6:12How?
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6:12 - 6:19By working a bit like science,
which obviously inspires confidence. -
6:22 - 6:26Scientists are often part
of the politics that works. -
6:27 - 6:30We don't set health standards
in slaughterhouses -
6:30 - 6:32without talking to microbiologists.
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6:33 - 6:38Nor do we set the minimum wage
without talking to economists. -
6:38 - 6:44You should also know that the scientists
who participate in the politics that works -
6:44 - 6:47often come from universities.
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6:47 - 6:50They, therefore, enjoy great independence.
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6:50 - 6:53And perhaps a little
because of this independence, -
6:53 - 6:57their messages don't always
suit politicians. -
6:57 - 7:04Indeed, scientists want their knowledge
to be used to improve policy, -
7:04 - 7:07not to entertain an audience
fond of conflicts. -
7:07 - 7:11They don't like to be part of a show.
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7:11 - 7:15When politicians and the media
take too much interest in them, -
7:15 - 7:18they quickly return to the tranquility
of their laboratories -
7:18 - 7:22and abandon any involvement
in the political world. -
7:22 - 7:27In 2012, I participated in a conference
in Boulder, Colorado, -
7:27 - 7:31which brought together
great researchers on climate change, -
7:31 - 7:35some of whom were among the first
to make us understand -
7:35 - 7:37the seriousness of this problem.
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7:38 - 7:41After hearing a few presentations,
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7:41 - 7:42I had a doubt,
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7:42 - 7:47wondering if I was attending a conference
of climate skeptics instead. -
7:47 - 7:53Knowledge that I thought was solid
was seriously questioned. -
7:53 - 7:54Everything was scrutinized:
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7:54 - 7:58the ways to estimate
the temperature of the past, -
7:58 - 8:01the methods of measuring
the current temperature, -
8:01 - 8:06and the validity of the simulations
that are used to predict future changes. -
8:07 - 8:11Obviously, no cameras in the room.
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8:12 - 8:16I quickly understood I wasn't attending
a climate skeptics conference. -
8:16 - 8:20What I saw was nothing other than
the scientific method at work. -
8:21 - 8:27Science advances knowledge
by constantly questioning it. -
8:27 - 8:32And scientists build their credibility
by adopting this attitude. -
8:34 - 8:39Now imagine a politician you would elect
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8:39 - 8:42because you like his position
on climate change. -
8:43 - 8:46Imagine him casting doubt,
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8:46 - 8:49not on the existence of climate change,
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8:50 - 8:56but on the relevance of a carbon tax
to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. -
8:56 - 9:01You should know that there are
other policies that achieve this goal -
9:01 - 9:06and that the carbon tax is certainly not
a superior option to these other policies. -
9:06 - 9:08Doubting would therefore be legitimate.
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9:09 - 9:12But in the context
of the politics that entertains, -
9:13 - 9:17your politician would quickly
be pilloried by his opponents. -
9:19 - 9:23They would say that he lacks conviction,
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9:24 - 9:27that he yields to pressure easily,
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9:27 - 9:29that he is weak,
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9:29 - 9:31and in the face of these criticisms,
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9:31 - 9:35perhaps you would yourself feel
like you have been betrayed -
9:35 - 9:38by your politicians.
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9:40 - 9:42But in fact, he would only have behaved
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9:42 - 9:48like a scientist who questions
his knowledge in view of improving it. -
9:48 - 9:53This is no doubt why scientists run away
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9:53 - 9:58when they are expected to participate
in the politics that entertains. -
9:59 - 10:04The politics that entertains
is a politics of conflicts. -
10:04 - 10:09Its participants must make exaggerated
remarks about their adversaries -
10:09 - 10:11with absolute confidence.
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10:12 - 10:16Criticism, attacks
are more about opponents -
10:16 - 10:17
than about arguments. -
10:18 - 10:19Doubting is not allowed.
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10:19 - 10:21Doubts are associated with weakness.
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10:21 - 10:25Anyone who doubts would immediately
be called a flip flop. -
10:26 - 10:27In contrast,
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10:28 - 10:31science is a world of caution,
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10:32 - 10:33nuances,
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10:33 - 10:34questioning,
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10:35 - 10:36doubt,
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10:36 - 10:38and sometimes of opinion change.
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10:38 - 10:39Again,
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10:39 - 10:44scientists are improving their knowledge
by constantly questioning it. -
10:47 - 10:52Scientists are often comfortable
with the politics that works -
10:52 - 10:56because it has
a lot in common with science. -
10:56 - 11:01The politics that works
is open to diverse view points, -
11:01 - 11:03it is moderate,
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11:03 - 11:06it is centered on arguments,
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11:07 - 11:10and it allows everyone
to doubt their opinions. -
11:12 - 11:13Now,
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11:13 - 11:18we should avoid opposing too much
the politics that entertains -
11:18 - 11:20to the politics that works.
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11:20 - 11:22If politics works overall,
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11:23 - 11:27it's because people who participate
in the politics that entertains -
11:27 - 11:30are also able to contribute
to the politics that works. -
11:31 - 11:33For more than 10 years,
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11:33 - 11:39my research has focused on the policy
of genetically modified organisms, GMOs, -
11:39 - 11:41in North America and Europe.
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11:41 - 11:44One day in Brussels,
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11:44 - 11:49I see a report in a newspaper
on one of the famous anti-GMO operations -
11:49 - 11:51organized by Greenpeace,
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11:51 - 11:54much like the one we see on the screen.
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11:54 - 11:55In the report,
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11:55 - 11:59a representative of the industry
reacted to the operation. -
11:59 - 12:01With great indignation,
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12:01 - 12:06he asserted that Greenpeace,
basically, had only one goal: -
12:06 - 12:09not environmental protection,
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12:10 - 12:12but industry bankruptcy.
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12:13 - 12:18A few days later, I came across
this same industry representative -
12:18 - 12:21at a meeting organized
by the European Commission -
12:21 - 12:26on its regulation
on the traceability of GMO seeds. -
12:27 - 12:29In addition to industry representatives,
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12:29 - 12:31the meeting included scientists,
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12:31 - 12:33consumer representatives,
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12:34 - 12:35farm groups,
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12:35 - 12:38and environmentalists,
including Greenpeace. -
12:39 - 12:43At the meeting, no one
accused anyone of anything. -
12:45 - 12:48The discussions focused
on each other's arguments. -
12:48 - 12:51All participants were working
to improve the regulation. -
12:52 - 12:58No wonder the meeting helped
improve the regulation -
12:58 - 13:03and at least in my view, strengthened
the credibility of the participants. -
13:04 - 13:11Meetings of this type take place daily
in the capitals of Western democracies. -
13:12 - 13:14And they improve our lives.
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13:16 - 13:19The food we eat is safer than ever,
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13:19 - 13:24as are our means of transportation
and our workplaces. -
13:25 - 13:31In many locations, crime
has been decreasing steadily for years. -
13:32 - 13:35We are preserving our heritage better
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13:35 - 13:39and have more protected
green spaces than before. -
13:40 - 13:43Air quality in our cities is better,
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13:44 - 13:47and access to health care,
although imperfect, -
13:47 - 13:51has nothing to do
with what it was 50 years ago. -
13:51 - 13:55Our life expectancy has never been longer.
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13:55 - 13:56Unfortunately,
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13:56 - 14:03we too rarely realize that this progress
is due to public policy -
14:03 - 14:07because the politics that we are shown
is the politics that entertains. -
14:07 - 14:12This politics also
unduly increases our cynicism. -
14:13 - 14:15How to get out of the trap?
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14:18 - 14:24By being well aware that politics
is more than what we see in the media. -
14:25 - 14:29Politics is not
just the politicians we know. -
14:30 - 14:35It's also meetings
of people you don't know. -
14:37 - 14:40In the evening, after a long day at work,
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14:41 - 14:46you can continue to watch
politicians who fight on TV -
14:46 - 14:50rather than reading
a government report on public policy. -
14:51 - 14:53The quarrels of politicians
are much more entertaining. -
14:53 - 14:56I prefer to watch that too.
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14:57 - 15:03But be aware that alongside this
exists a politics that is less visible, -
15:03 - 15:05much less glamorous,
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15:05 - 15:07but much more important.
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15:07 - 15:14A politics that engages people
who do not necessarily seek notoriety, -
15:14 - 15:21but who have experience, expertise,
and knowledge useful for public policy. -
15:22 - 15:27People who can doubt
and reconsider their opinion -
15:27 - 15:30when the arguments of others justify it.
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15:30 - 15:33This politics works.
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15:33 - 15:35It improves our lives.
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15:35 - 15:39Like science,
politics deserves our trust. -
15:40 - 15:42We should be less cynical.
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15:43 - 15:44Thank you.
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15:44 - 15:46(Applause)
- Title:
- Does politics justify cynicism and disillusionment? | Éric Montpetit | TEDxMontreal
- Description:
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Cynicism and disillusionment with politics has reached new heights in Western democracies. Why? Éric Montpetit, a specialist in public policy, argues that since the early 1990s the media coverage of politics shows a politics that entertains at the expense of a politics that works. The public is thus kept in the dark that alongside the vicious attacks between political adversaries, there is a more peaceful policy that improves our lives. In his talk, Montpetit lifts the veil on this working policy.
Éric Montpetit is a political science professor at the Université de Montréal and vice-dean - teaching staff - at the Faculty of Arts and Sciences. He has a Ph.D in comparative and Canadian public policy at McMaster University. He has authored three books, co-authored three others and published over 80 articles or book chapters. His latest book, In Defense of Pluralism: Policy Disagreement and Its Media Coverage, was published by Cambridge University Press in 2016. Montpetit's work examines the politics of scientific expertise that engages when public policy stakeholders begin to express divergent views on government action.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- French
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- closed TED
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- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 15:57