Is my child too young to learn about being gay? | Tim Ramsey | TEDxOxford
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0:08 - 0:12When I showed the first draft
of this talk to my dad - -
0:12 - 0:14and don't judge, but yes, aged 28,
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0:14 - 0:18I'm doing the emotional equivalent
of still living with my parents - -
0:18 - 0:19he asked me,
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0:19 - 0:21"Did you really feel like that?"
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0:22 - 0:25The bit my dad had been reading
described how ashamed I felt -
0:25 - 0:28when I realized that I was gay.
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0:28 - 0:30I felt it was wrong,
I felt it was unnatural. -
0:31 - 0:35He and my mom found that hard
because as far as they were aware, -
0:35 - 0:37I wasn't going through that;
I was straight. -
0:37 - 0:39And don't get me wrong,
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0:39 - 0:42there are many things I'm glad
they didn't know I was going through, -
0:42 - 0:45like the time a friend brought in
a porn magazine, and I joined in, -
0:45 - 0:48tearing out a photo,
hiding it in the back of my phone, -
0:48 - 0:50at a time when you could
take the back off your phone, -
0:50 - 0:54and hoping that if I stared at that
long enough, it'd turn me straight. -
0:54 - 0:55I'm glad they didn't know about that.
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0:55 - 0:58But because they hadn't thought
that there was any other option, -
0:58 - 1:00other than being straight,
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1:00 - 1:03they'd made no provision,
like so many parents, -
1:03 - 1:06for that ten-percent chance that I wasn't.
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1:07 - 1:08So until that moment,
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1:08 - 1:11I had planned to talk about the work
that Just Like Us does, -
1:11 - 1:12the charity I set up
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1:12 - 1:18that trains LGBT young people to go into
schools as relatable role models for kids. -
1:18 - 1:21They go in and they share
their personal story growing up -
1:21 - 1:24to support any kid who is LGBT,
or just doesn't know, -
1:24 - 1:27and to empower
straight students as allies. -
1:28 - 1:30But what my dad's question made me realize
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1:30 - 1:33was that I really meant
to talk about parents -
1:33 - 1:35and their role in this issue.
-
1:35 - 1:39In many ways, this is a story
of failed ambition. -
1:39 - 1:41It's about the challenge
of building bridges -
1:41 - 1:45with people who don't want to know
anything about LGBT issues, -
1:46 - 1:48with people who don't think they need to,
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1:48 - 1:51because LGBT issues
have just never affected them, -
1:52 - 1:54and with people who think they should do
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1:54 - 1:56but maybe just don't
really know what to do. -
1:56 - 2:00Now, I don't mean to make it sound
that working with schools is easy. -
2:00 - 2:01It's not.
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2:01 - 2:06Some schools still think they're not
allowed to talk about LGBT issues; -
2:06 - 2:11others, that they don't have
any LGBT kids at school; -
2:11 - 2:14and others are, shall we say,
"on a journey." -
2:14 - 2:18As one house mistress
of an all-girls boarding house said to me, -
2:18 - 2:21"We have got absolutely
no problem with the gays, -
2:21 - 2:23but we're just not ready for lesbians."
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2:23 - 2:25"They're already there!" I told her.
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2:25 - 2:27(Laughter)
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2:28 - 2:32Now, parents obviously affect
whether or not we work with a school, -
2:32 - 2:34but their influence is much broader
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2:34 - 2:37and extends way before
a child starts school. -
2:37 - 2:41Whether it's their cognitive development,
the food they grow up loving or hating, -
2:41 - 2:43their sense of self-worth,
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2:43 - 2:46parents are the coauthors
of their child's life. -
2:47 - 2:51They define how that child grows up
feeling about themselves. -
2:51 - 2:56And unlike, say, children born
into minority ethnic communities -
2:56 - 2:58or religious communities,
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2:58 - 3:03most LGBT children are not born
into their minority community. -
3:03 - 3:04They're on their own.
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3:04 - 3:07They're the first member
of that community, -
3:07 - 3:11which they then have to find
and then build for themselves. -
3:11 - 3:15They don't have the parents
who share that same history, -
3:15 - 3:17overcame the same challenges,
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3:17 - 3:18faced the same oppression.
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3:19 - 3:21They're born an island.
-
3:21 - 3:27Whilst the social, cultural, political,
racial background can make that harder, -
3:27 - 3:30I think there's a danger that every parent
risks not realizing the power they have -
3:30 - 3:33to shape whether or not
a child realizes who they are, -
3:33 - 3:34positively
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3:34 - 3:37or with a great sense of shame.
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3:38 - 3:39Ultimately,
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3:39 - 3:42we want to get to a point
where a parent doesn't say, -
3:42 - 3:45"Is my child too young
to learn about LGBT issues?" -
3:45 - 3:48but demands to know
why they're not learning about them, -
3:48 - 3:50and not just at school but at home,
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3:50 - 3:53and it's about a lot more than sex ed.
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3:53 - 3:56But why is this bridge so hard to build?
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3:56 - 4:00Well, I mean, let's be honest:
being LGBT comes with a lot of baggage. -
4:00 - 4:04For most of history, it has been
labeled a sin by religion, -
4:04 - 4:06punishable by law,
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4:06 - 4:08in some sense a threat to society.
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4:09 - 4:13And I know that in many ways,
attitudes have moved forwards, -
4:13 - 4:15but you need only look at a newspaper
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4:15 - 4:19to see that hatred and suspicion
around transgender people. -
4:20 - 4:24Until I was 13, it was illegal
to talk about LGBT issues in schools. -
4:24 - 4:28The last piece of law banning
homosexuality in the merchant navy -
4:28 - 4:31wasn't repealed until 2017.
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4:32 - 4:33So until recently,
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4:33 - 4:39this othering of LGBT people demonized us
as a target of moralized anger. -
4:41 - 4:43But what does that mean?
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4:43 - 4:46Well, it means that 4 in 10 people
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4:46 - 4:50still think that same-sex relations
are in some sense wrong. -
4:51 - 4:55At its worst, you see that in the rise
in hate crimes against LGBT people, -
4:55 - 4:58but it also manifests itself
in smaller ways. -
4:58 - 5:02Before Christmas, I went to see
Bohemian Rhapsody at the cinema - -
5:02 - 5:03it's a great film -
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5:03 - 5:05and a couple of things happened.
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5:05 - 5:07About a third of the way through,
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5:07 - 5:11the woman behind me
whispered in shock to her friend, -
5:11 - 5:14"Wait ... Is Freddie Mercury gay?
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5:15 - 5:17I was like, "How are you here?"
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5:17 - 5:19(Laughter)
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5:19 - 5:22And then about 20 minutes later,
as I was getting over that, -
5:22 - 5:24the guy next to me
who had been quite happily, -
5:24 - 5:26although extremely irritatingly,
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5:26 - 5:28singing along to all the tunes,
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5:28 - 5:33when Freddie and his manager kissed,
he retched in disgust. -
5:33 - 5:36And it's that shadow of othering
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5:36 - 5:40that I think taints the way we think
about LGBT issues with children. -
5:41 - 5:42That can be in the idea
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5:42 - 5:45that a child can be too young
to learn about LGBT issues, -
5:45 - 5:49as if you wake up on your 16th birthday,
in a shower of glittery gayness, -
5:49 - 5:53and you think, "Yes! Yes, queen. I'm gay."
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5:53 - 5:54You don't!
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5:54 - 5:55It would be a lot easier.
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5:56 - 5:58Or in the idea that many parents have
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5:58 - 6:02that being LGBT is going to make
their child's life harder, -
6:02 - 6:06that they're not going to be able to do
everything that a straight child would. -
6:06 - 6:08And this can be reinforced, I think,
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6:08 - 6:11by the way that our community
can be ghettoized. -
6:11 - 6:15We're often imagined as being
geographically distinct in a gay village, -
6:15 - 6:17or being socially separate in a gay bar,
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6:17 - 6:20or technologically apart
with an app like Grindr. -
6:20 - 6:23I don't for a moment mean to say
that those spaces aren't important - -
6:23 - 6:24they absolutely are -
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6:24 - 6:28but what I think it can do
in the minds of some people -
6:28 - 6:30is perpetuate the sense
that if you are straight, -
6:30 - 6:33being LGBT happens apart from you
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6:33 - 6:36and therefore also apart
from your children. -
6:36 - 6:38But that's not the case.
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6:38 - 6:40That's what parents need to realize.
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6:41 - 6:45To show that, I want us
to imagine a school of 1,000 kids. -
6:46 - 6:49And imagine that this school
mirrors the UK population -
6:49 - 6:52when it comes to sexual orientation.
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6:52 - 6:55If that were the case,
then of those 1,000 kids, -
6:55 - 6:59999 will grow up in a straight household;
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6:59 - 7:02practically every single child.
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7:02 - 7:07But the issue is that whilst nearly every
child grows up in a straight household, -
7:07 - 7:13anywhere between 70 and 100
of those children will be LGBT. -
7:14 - 7:17And that number could be as high as 49%,
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7:17 - 7:20as surveys with 16
to 25-year-olds have found. -
7:20 - 7:24More and more people identify
as "other" than simply "straight." -
7:25 - 7:26So we have an issue.
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7:27 - 7:30We have a dissonance between
the sexual orientation of the parents -
7:30 - 7:33and the sexual orientation of the kids,
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7:33 - 7:36and if we don't address that from birth,
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7:36 - 7:40there's a danger we'd just create
more suffering and pain for young people. -
7:41 - 7:44Perhaps "from birth"
sounds a little bit absurd, -
7:44 - 7:47but it got me thinking about how old I was
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7:47 - 7:51when I realized I had
to be straight when I grew up. -
7:51 - 7:54And I wondered if perhaps
it was when I was four, -
7:54 - 7:56when as a balalaika playing cool dude
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7:56 - 7:58I'd listen to the stories
my mom would tell me -
7:58 - 8:02and I'd imagine myself as the dashing
prince rescuing that damsel. -
8:03 - 8:05Or whether or not as, well,
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8:05 - 8:09the most suspicious or either
miserable person in Disneyland. -
8:09 - 8:13I'd sneak down in the morning to watch
a James Bond video I'd saved up for, -
8:13 - 8:15and I'd imagine myself killing the baddies
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8:15 - 8:18and then seducing
that beautiful woman at the end. -
8:18 - 8:21Maybe that was when I knew
I should be straight. -
8:21 - 8:24Or maybe it was when I was 11,
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8:24 - 8:26when I started secondary school.
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8:26 - 8:28And I was worried.
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8:28 - 8:33I was worried because I thought people
might think I wasn't straight, -
8:34 - 8:37because whilst we were meant
to play rugby like a good lad, -
8:38 - 8:41I played the flute, which is
apparently a gay instrument, -
8:41 - 8:46and even worse than that, the piccolo,
which is a teeny-weeny gay instrument. -
8:46 - 8:47(Laughter)
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8:48 - 8:51But the thing is, these straight stories,
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8:51 - 8:53these straight role models,
straight heroes, -
8:53 - 8:56straight ideas of masculinity
and femininity, -
8:57 - 9:00when everyone is telling you
one version of an identity, -
9:00 - 9:04you don't need to be bullied
to think that who you are is inferior. -
9:04 - 9:06That story does it for you.
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9:07 - 9:08And in many ways,
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9:08 - 9:12the journey I had to learn who I was
and to love who I was -
9:12 - 9:15was quite similar to the journey
I'd had up to that point, -
9:15 - 9:17learning I should be straight.
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9:17 - 9:21But the difference was
I had to write this new story -
9:21 - 9:24over the one I'd already
learned growing up, -
9:24 - 9:26that being gay was wrong,
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9:26 - 9:29that being straight was the only option.
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9:29 - 9:35And that process of rewriting and erasure
can be extremely long and painful, -
9:36 - 9:38and that's another thing
that parents need to realize. -
9:38 - 9:42We're talking about a lot more
than light banter and bullying. -
9:42 - 9:44We know that LGBT young people
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9:44 - 9:49are four times more likely to attempt
suicide than their straight peers; -
9:49 - 9:52that 1 in 2 self-harm;
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9:53 - 9:56that 6 in 10 say that it affects
their schoolwork. -
9:57 - 10:02We also know that this is an extremely
vulnerable period for young people. -
10:02 - 10:05The average time between
somebody realizing that they're LGBT -
10:05 - 10:07and telling someone for the first time
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10:07 - 10:10is three and a half years.
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10:10 - 10:12That's three and a half years
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10:12 - 10:15a child is trying to fathom out
who they are on their own, -
10:15 - 10:19and that is a journey no child
should have to do on their own. -
10:20 - 10:23So when we see that LGBT young people
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10:23 - 10:26are disproportionately likely
to suffer from poor well-being -
10:26 - 10:29and are failing to realize
their potential, -
10:29 - 10:33how do I feel when I see
something like this? -
10:33 - 10:36Or when I read emails from parents
complaining about our work? -
10:38 - 10:39I feel angry,
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10:39 - 10:40I feel so angry,
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10:40 - 10:42and I want to say to these parents,
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10:42 - 10:45"Was your child ever too young
to learn about being straight? -
10:45 - 10:49Were they ever too young to see mom
and dad holding hands in the playground? -
10:49 - 10:52Ever too young to see the story
of Aladdin and Princess Jasmine?" -
10:52 - 10:55Because what we do now,
-
10:55 - 11:01failing to teach young people about
LGBT issues and straight at the same time, -
11:01 - 11:03is not working.
-
11:04 - 11:07But I'm also so frustrated
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11:07 - 11:12because there are so many amazing books,
like Olly Pike's "Prince Henry," -
11:12 - 11:13Jazz Jennings' "I am Jazz,"
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11:13 - 11:15films like "Love, Simon,"
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11:15 - 11:19that introduce young people
to these issues -
11:19 - 11:21in a way that is totally positive.
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11:23 - 11:28Now, perhaps it sounds like I'm demanding
quite a lot for 10% of the population, -
11:29 - 11:32but what message
do we send to young people -
11:32 - 11:36if whilst we ask them to believe that
gender inequality is everyone's issue, -
11:36 - 11:38that racism is everyone's issue,
-
11:38 - 11:40we don't also ask them all to believe
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11:40 - 11:44that homophobia, biphobia
and transphobia are also their issue? -
11:45 - 11:50We risk doing the equivalent of only
teaching racism to people of color, -
11:50 - 11:53or gender inequality to women.
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11:53 - 11:55It doesn't work, and we know that.
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11:56 - 12:00But parents have that power to shape
how young people discover who they are, -
12:00 - 12:03and that's something that we can change.
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12:03 - 12:06I want to end by asking you a question.
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12:07 - 12:09I'd like you to put your hand up
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12:09 - 12:13if you have an LGBT person
in your family, or if you're LGBT. -
12:14 - 12:17And I'd like you to keep your hand up
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12:17 - 12:21if you think that life for them
growing up was harder -
12:21 - 12:24than for their straight siblings or peers.
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12:28 - 12:30And for all of those of you
who have young children -
12:30 - 12:34or who plan to have children
in the future, -
12:34 - 12:39I'd like you to raise your hand
if after everything you've heard today -
12:39 - 12:44you would honestly prefer
your child to grow up LGBT. -
12:47 - 12:50I mean, why would you,
when life is going to be harder for them? -
12:50 - 12:53But the thing is it doesn't have to be.
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12:53 - 12:57We, as parents and future parents,
have this immeasurable influence -
12:57 - 12:59over how our young people grow up.
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12:59 - 13:04Yes, most LGBT young people aren't born
into their minority community, -
13:04 - 13:07but that doesn't mean
they have to be alone. -
13:07 - 13:11It is in our power to make sure
that no child grows up -
13:11 - 13:16conscious of some unspoken expectation
that they're straight, -
13:16 - 13:20or unconsciously thinking
that straight is superior. -
13:20 - 13:24It is in our power as parents
to make sure that every child grows up -
13:24 - 13:28knowing that their sexual orientation
and gender identity -
13:28 - 13:31is something that their parents
imagined possible, -
13:31 - 13:32support fully
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13:32 - 13:34and celebrate with pride.
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13:34 - 13:36We can do that.
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13:36 - 13:37Thank you very much.
- Title:
- Is my child too young to learn about being gay? | Tim Ramsey | TEDxOxford
- Description:
-
Can a child be too young to learn about being LGBT? The answer: no child is ever too young. In this humorous and moving talk, Tim Ramsey argues that only when every parent explores about LGBT identities with their child from birth will we address the well being crisis facing LGBT young people.
Tim Ramsey, the founder of award-winning non-profit Just Like Us, grew up believing that being gay was the worst thing he could be. Having come out, Tim launched Just Like Us to change the lives of other LGBT+ school students by empowering young people to challenge prejudice and champion LGBT+ equality at school and work. As the founder of School Diversity Week, the national celebration of LGBT+ equality in education, Tim has involved over 650,000 school students and teachers work to ensure every young person can be themselves and their best at school.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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