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TED Global 2013 Found in Translation Teddy Cruz

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    - Good afternoon, everyone.
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    Welcome to the Open Translation
    Lounge at TED Global 2013.
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    Today, we're happy to welcome Teddy Cruz
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    who just left the TED stage moments ago,
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    talking about a pretty bold way
    of designing, planning
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    and building cities in the future,
    which we're going to talk about today.
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    Here in the Lounge today,
    we have Bryant from China,
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    Irteza from Pakistan,
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    Jan from Czechoslovakia,
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    and Unnawut from Thailand.
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    And, on Skype, welcome to all of you.
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    Teddy, thanks again for joining us.
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    It's funny,
    when people talk about planning cities,
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    they always think of looking at these big,
    giant ones, Shanghai, Dubai,
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    why don't you judge those cities
    as an inspiration?
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    - Oh, gosh. You begin right away.
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    Again, as I mentioned in the talk,
    after the last year's of investment
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    in those environments,
    as the architecture, planning
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    and urban intelligentsia from all over
    the world fled en masse
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    to those environments, and that explosion
    of urbanisation from Dubai to Shanghai,
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    to many of these enclaves
    of economic power, I don't think,
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    and maybe you guys can tell me,
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    but I just don't see one single idea
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    that emerged from those transformations.
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    In reality, the best ideas
    about urbanisation in the context
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    of generating other modalities
    of planning,
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    of rethinking infrastructure,
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    of affordable housing,
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    of mobilising other processes
    of public participation,
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    and so on, were happening
    in Latin America, but nobody was noticing.
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    So, the provocation I have is that
    not one single idea was advanced
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    in Dubai or Shanghai.
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    In fact, they were just imitating
    and reproducing the worst recipes
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    of urban planning that were generated
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    in the United States in the last decades.
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    - I wonder what your strategy would be if,
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    let's say, we were
    to transplant you and say,
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    can we take some of these strategies
    and do them in these different countries?
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    When you have this kind of authoritarian
    capitalism, how could you deal with it?
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    - I've worked, in fact,
    in South Korea as an artist
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    intervening in projects
    that have to do with public space
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    and the politics of housing.
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    And I investigated many
    of those neighbourhoods
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    that were slated for demolition.
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    And it was amazing to investigate
    the amount of informal economies
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    of social organisational practices
    embedded in those neighbourhoods.
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    There was a man who built
    a snail farm on four rooftops
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    of his block, and, in doing so,
    he also produced
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    a co-operative model to sustain
    the economy
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    of that immediate environment.
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    It's hard to imagine
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    that those entrepreneurial
    social economic energies
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    are completely eroded.
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    Fine, we know the city needs to transform.
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    I'm not talking about preserving
    those neighbourhoods intact.
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    But before we destroy them,
    let's understand what they've produced.
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    Right.
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    T. Cruz: And what I've been investigating
    in my own section of the world,
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    on the border between Mexico
    and the United States,
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    is that density needs to be reimagined
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    as an amount of socio-economic
    exchanges per area,
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    and that's what defines
    many of those neighbourhoods.
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    But if a developer looks at it,
    they can't monetise that.
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    So, how do you sell that
    to the power brokers
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    or the stakeholders in the community,
    who are actually driving everything?
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    How do you come in as a designer
    and say, it's really complicated.
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    As we all know the world
    of architects and designers
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    has been eroded to some degree,
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    but when you're dealing
    with a massive problem,
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    I wonder what your strategy
    is for tackling it?
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    - That's a fantastic question.
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    I think that's where we begin to find
    and expand the role of architects
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    and planners that can begin
    to act as facilitators or mediators
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    of the bottom-up knowledge,
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    and the logics,
    economically and politically,
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    of top-down organisation.
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    Because even the activists working
    in those neighbourhoods
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    were not aware of that knowledge.
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    They are resisting the developers.
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    But they're not representing
    the knowledge of the community.
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    - So they're not giving them a solution?
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    - Exactly.
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    And I think that's a gap
    that needs to be filled.
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    It's a difficult issue
    because it all has to do with,
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    in the end, the amount of profit.
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    I think that enabling
    housing projects, or processes,
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    that enable a community to profit
    from its own infrastructure
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    and its own housing
    is what we need to talk about.
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    But, yes, in this polarisation
    between the bottom-up and the top-down,
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    there is much to be said
    and to be done, really,
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    in producing new models
    of political representation,
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    but also community participation.
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    And this is what is absent.
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    - So it's the designer as facilitator,
    translator, and mediator?
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    T. Cruz: Exactly.
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    That is one point that I wish
    I would have said in the 13 minutes,
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    but it's difficult to.
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    - I'd like to bring in some people
    from some large cities.
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    I'd like to bring in some commentary.
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    Nati, from Sao Paulo,
    do you have a question for Teddy?
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    So, based on what we are discussing
    here, I'd like to ask you,
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    how could developers
    reinvent their business?
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    Are there new ways for them
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    to follow in which they do not provide
    a kind of valorisation of improvements?
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    Is there a way that developers
    can change their business
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    and bring a good legacy to cities?
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    - The answer, in a sense,
    is that we can't wait for the developers.
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    They are not our clients.
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    I think we need to begin by ourselves
    gaining the knowledge
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    of the developer so that we,
    as designers, as architects,
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    urban planners, become the developers
    of new housing models,
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    because the knowledge
    is out there to be mobilised.
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    The kind of intelligence the developer
    has in manipulating resources
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    and time is all embedded
    in the spreadsheet.
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    And that knowledge has been away from us.
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    So, on the one hand,
    our clients should be ourselves,
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    Second, or primarily, in fact,
    the communities.
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    The idea that informal settlements
    or neighbourhoods
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    facilitated by existing
    community-based practices,
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    whether NGOs or other modes
    of representation,
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    can, in fact, also become
    developers of their own housing.
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    I would argue the examples need to be
    driven by us and not by the developers.
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    And only then can they get a sense.
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    But part of the issue of the urban crisis
    today is that the resources
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    of the many
    have been moved to the very few.
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    I think it's very difficult to convince
    the developer to have less profit.
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    So, that's the reason I think
    the early stages of transformation
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    will have to happen
    with very small scale examples
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    and models that can emerge
    from these communities.
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    But I would argue the importance
    of architects becoming
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    developers of affordable
    social housing in our time.
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    - We're going to take another
    question from Skype. Matti?
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    - My question is, if we are to realise
    this new way of citizenship,
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    where people create
    rather than just consume,
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    how do we change
    people's way of looking at citizenship
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    as something else than just consumerism?
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    - You're getting
    to the core of the challenge.
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    And that's the reason Latin America,
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    as one of the speakers today suggested,
    much more needs to be said about it.
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    What produced the transformation?
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    The urban transformation of places
    like Medellín in Colombia
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    that was considered
    the most dangerous city in the world
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    in the late '80s and early '90s
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    to becoming now an exemplary model
    of urban transformation.
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    Again, it was not about buildings,
    architecture or planning.
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    It was about a political
    transformation of institutions,
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    seeking a new type of interface
    with the public.
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    And that being said, which is
    another aspect that many designers,
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    architects and planners need to engage,
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    how to produce a new civic education,
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    engaging what the Colombians
    call a civic culture,
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    an urban pedagogy
    that begins to raise awareness
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    of the relationship of social norms
    and the construction of the city.
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    I think to re-engage a political will
    that invests the minds and hearts
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    of people in constructing
    their own city requires, once more,
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    mediation and investment
    in education, particularly.
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    A huge amount of work.
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    But some masochists, like you and I,
    we can engage, hopefully,
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    in producing new models of interface
    to produce an urban educational process.
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    I'm saying that because
    that's one of the closest projects
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    that I want to follow in the next years.
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    - I want to give the panel
    an opportunity to ask a question.
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    - I come from Bangkok.
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    A lot of what you said seems like
    we need to change a lot of things, right?
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    But for those
    that are already established,
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    especially in the city centre,
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    where you already have
    all the spaces occupied,
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    how do you think that area
    of the city could be changed, or not?
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    - Yes.
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    I think that this is what brings up
    an issue that was difficult also
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    to elaborate on in the 13 minutes.
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    It's the role of programming.
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    While certain buildings
    remain static, fixed,
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    that the orientation should be
    to rethink the retrofitting,
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    not necessarily through
    physical strategies,
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    but through intelligent
    programmatic hybrids,
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    or conditions that could anticipate
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    the intensification of economic
    and social activity.
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    So, we could be designers not only
    of space but of protocols,
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    that's what I was saying earlier.
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    - You need to own your own cities?
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    - A sense of ownership
    of your own city is essential.
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    And that's the reason, I think,
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    public participation in reforming
    governments is necessary.
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    - I feel like you need to come up
    with an urban handbook
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    for guerilla warfare,
    in terms of the design space.
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    To give concrete examples.
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    How can we deal with these conditions
    on a lot of different levels
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    is a huge problem.
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    At the end of the day,
    that's what I'm saying.
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    We think because we are educated
    in architectural schools,
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    that what we need to do as architects
    is just to design objects.
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    We could be designing many other things,
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    and I think the designing of social
    relations or even, at times,
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    political processes
    can be an interesting topic
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    that has been absent
    from our debate, I think.
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    - One more question
    from our viewers on Skype.
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    Sergio, would you like to ask a question?
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    - Yeah.
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    One of the things that struck me
    the most in your talk was
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    when you spoke about the people
    who were building the skate park.
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    And it was interesting to me
    for two reasons.
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    First because it shows that there
    are people who want to be
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    active in their citizenship.
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    And the fact that they were told,
    or they were required, to build an NGO.
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    But I see this as something that began
    as something much more unplanned,
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    something that could
    grow more organically.
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    And then it went to an NGO.
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    It required it to be more planned,
    more managed, as you say.
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    So, are we seeing two different models?
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    Would you prefer to have some growth
    that is more unplanned,
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    more organic, more typically reactive,
    if it's not as planned?
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    - I get it. In fact, it's one of the most
    provocative questions.
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    Yes, while we want to protect
    and uphold the magic of the unplanned,
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    part of the problem in terms
    of these communities being suppressed -
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    they're not able to advance
    socio-economically -
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    is that they lack representation.
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    Not that they "lack", they contain it,
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    but sometimes the instruments
    to formulate new forms of organisation
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    and management that can push
    against the top-down institution.
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    So I think I do believe that in order
    to really get to the next step,
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    the next layer, we need to construct
    other forms of governance.
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    That's not to say that skateboarders
    have to become rigid and planned.
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    No, they continue to organise themselves
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    by enabling forms of access
    into the magic of insurgence.
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    But they now have resources.
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    They now have a space
    which is physical and they call the shots.
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    In fact, they are inspiring other
    environments to do the same.
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    I wouldn't be afraid of that
    translation from the unplanned
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    into particular calibration
    of the planned,
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    but without selling out.
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    It is that middle, grey zone
    that needs to be activated
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    because we've been polarising
    ourselves based on this way
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    of looking in such a patronising way
    at the informal and the unplanned.
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    I think there is much
    to be constructed there,
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    in terms of new politics
    of urban development.
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    - We're going to have to end there.
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    We need to get people
    back into the session.
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    Teddy, thank you
    so much for joining us today.
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    - Thank you, and thank
    you for your questions.
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    Some of you, if we can keep in touch,
    and invite me to Portugal--
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    - Come any time.
    - Thank you.
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    - Thank you, everybody.
    We're back tomorrow.
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    Thank you so much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
TED Global 2013 Found in Translation Teddy Cruz
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In the TED Found in Translation Session following his talk, Teddy explores possible solutions to the pressing issues surrounding urban development with a global panel of TED Translators and experts.

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