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A lab the size of a postage stamp | George Whitesides | TEDxBoston

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    Host: TED is always about
    lifting humanity,
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    and our next speaker is George Whitesides.
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    He's listed as the professor
    of chemistry at Harvard,
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    but any of you who have read
    his biography know, he's so much more.
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    You can start with the fact
    that he founded 12 companies,
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    that he has co-authored
    950 scientific articles,
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    or the fact that he is listed
    on 50 patents.
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    But I think
    what he is going to talk about today
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    is similar to what Hugo talked about,
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    another way that the application
    of technology to today's problems
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    gives us all hope and optimism.
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    I'd like to introduce George Whitesides.
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    (Applause)
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    George Whitesides: I am a wonk.
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    Started my career at MIT,
    I was quite at home there.
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    And we are defined
    by a certain view of the world.
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    And I will illustrate this in a way
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    that's relevant
    to what I want to talk about.
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    A few years ago I spent my evening
    cleanin out my attic,
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    and lifted some heavy stuff.
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    In the middle of the night
    I woke up in agonized pain.
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    And I thought,
    well I've probably strained my back,
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    but I wanted to be a responsible adult,
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    so I went off to the local emergency room,
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    and I learned something very interesting,
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    which is that as a middle aged male,
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    if you walk into the emergency room
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    and say, "I think
    I might be having a heart attack,"
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    all the people behind the desk
    actually stand up and do something.
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    It's really impressive.
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    (Laughter)
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    So, very sharp needles
    were stuck into veins,
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    and electrodes were applied
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    and very fancy equipment
    did fantastic stuff
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    and - turns out I didn't.
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    But I have to say, I loved the experience,
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    because I'm a wonk, that's what I do.
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    And it was very sophisticated,
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    it would have been even more sophisticated
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    had I actually had a heart attack,
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    but it was also very, very expensive.
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    And imagine that you do
    the same thing in this environment,
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    and the story is much more complicated.
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    There, the problem is basically solved
    by either you die or you don't.
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    The problem that I want
    to talk with you about
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    is really the problem of:
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    How does one supply healthcare
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    in a world in which cost is everything?
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    How do you do that?
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    And the basic paradigm
    we want to suggest to you,
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    I want to suggest to you,
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    is one in which you say that in order to
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    treat disease you have to first
    know what you're treating -
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    that's diagnostics - and then
    you have to do something.
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    So, the program that we're involved
    in is something which we call
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    Diagnostics for All,
    or zero-cost diagnostics.
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    How do you provide medically
    relevant information
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    at as close as possible to zero cost?
    How do you do it?
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    There are a number of reasons
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    for doing this kind of thing,
    other than this,
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    and I want to return to one of these
    at the end.
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    Let me just give you two examples.
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    The rigors of military medicine
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    are not so dissimilar
    from the third world -
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    poor resources, a rigorous environment,
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    a series of problems in lightweight,
    and things of this kind -
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    and also not so different
    from the home healthcare
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    and diagnostic system world.
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    So, the technology
    that I want to talk about
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    is for the third world,
    for the developing world,
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    but it has, I think,
    much broader application,
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    because information is so important
    in the healthcare system.
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    So what would have been the equivalent
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    of the laboratory that did the diagnosis
    in the Newton hospital?
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    And, you see two examples here.
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    One is a lab that is actually a fairly
    high-end laboratory in Africa.
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    The second is basically an entrepreneur
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    who is set up and doing who-knows-what
    in a table in a market.
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    I don't know what kind
    of healthcare is delivered there.
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    But it's not really
    what is probably most efficient.
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    What is our approach?
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    And the way
    in which one typically approaches
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    a problem of lowering cost,
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    starting from the perspective
    of the United States,
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    is to take our solution,
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    and then to try to cut cost out of it.
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    No matter how you do that,
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    you're not going to start
    with a 100,000-dollar instrument
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    and bring it down to no-cost.
    It isn't going to work.
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    So, the approach that we took
    was the other way around.
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    To ask, "What is the cheapest
    possible stuff
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    that you could make
    a diagnostic system out of,
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    and get useful information, add function?"
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    And what we've chosen is paper.
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    What you see here is a prototypic device.
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    It's about a centimeter on the side.
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    It's about the size of a fingernail,
    I'll show you a picture in a moment.
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    The lines around the edges are a polymer.
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    It's made of paper
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    and paper, of course, wicks fluid,
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    as you know, paper, cloth -
    drop wine on the tablecloth,
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    and the wine wicks all over everything.
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    Put it on your shirt, it ruins the shirt.
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    That's what a hydrophilic surface does.
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    So, in this device
    the idea is that you drip
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    the bottom end of it in a drop of,
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    in this case, urine.
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    The fluid wicks its way
    into those chambers at the top.
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    The brown color indicates
    the amount of glucose in the urine,
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    the blue color indicates the amount
    of protein in the urine.
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    And the combination of those two
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    is a first order shot at a number
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    of useful things that you want.
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    So, this is an example of a device
    made from a simple piece of paper.
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    Now, how simple can you
    make the production?
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    Why do we choose paper?
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    There's an example of the same
    thing on a finger,
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    showing you basically what it looks like.
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    One reason for using paper
    is that it's everywhere.
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    We have made these kinds of devices
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    using napkins and toilet paper
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    and wraps, and all kinds of stuff.
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    So, the production capability is there.
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    The second is, you can put lots and lots
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    of tests in a very small place.
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    I'll show you in a moment
    that the stack of paper there
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    would probably hold something like
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    100,000 tests, something of that kind.
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    And then finally, a point
    that you don't think of so much
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    in developed world medicine:
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    it eliminates sharps.
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    And what sharps means
    is needles, things that stick.
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    If you've taken a sample
    of someone's blood
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    and the someone might have hepatitis C,
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    you don't want to make
    a mistake and stick it in you.
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    You don't want to do that.
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    So, how do you dispose of that?
    It's a problem everywhere.
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    And here you simply burn it.
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    So, it's a sort of a practical approach
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    to starting on things.
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    Now, you say, "If paper is a good idea,
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    other people have surely thought of it."
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    And the answer is, of course, yes.
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    Those half of you, roughly,
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    who are women,
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    at some point may have
    had a pregnancy test.
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    Probably had several.
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    And the most common of these
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    is in a device that looks
    like the thing on the left.
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    It's something called
    a lateral flow immunoassay.
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    In that particular test,
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    urine either, containing
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    a hormone called HCG, does or does not
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    flow across a piece of paper.
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    And there are two bars.
    One indicates that the test is working,
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    and if the second bar shows up,
    you're pregnant.
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    This is a terrific kind of test
    in a binary world,
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    and the nice thing about pregnancy
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    is either you are pregnant
    or you're not pregnant.
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    You're not partially pregnant
    or thinking about being pregnant
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    or something of that sort.
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    So, it works very well there,
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    but it doesn't work very well when you
    need more quantitative information.
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    There are also dipsticks,
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    but if you look at the dipsticks,
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    they're for another kind
    of urine analysis.
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    There are an awful lot of colors
    and things like that.
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    What do you actually do
    about that in a difficult circumstance?
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    So, the approach that we started
    with is to ask:
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    Is it really practical
    to make things of this sort?
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    And that problem is now,
    in a purely engineering way, solved.
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    And the procedure that we have
    is simply to start with paper.
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    You run it through a new kind
    of printer called a wax printer.
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    The wax printer does
    what looks like printing.
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    It is printing. You put that on,
    you warm it a little bit,
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    the wax prints through
    so it absorbs into the paper,
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    and you end up with the device
    that you want.
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    The printers cost 800 bucks now.
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    We estimate that if you
    were to run them 24 hours a day
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    they'd make about 10 million tests a year.
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    So, it's a solved problem,
    that particular problem is solved.
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    And there is an example of the kind
    of thing that you see.
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    That's on a piece of 8 by 12 paper.
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    That takes about two seconds to make.
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    And so I regard that as done.
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    There is a very important issue here,
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    which is that because it's a printer,
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    a color printer, it prints colors.
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    That's what color printers do.
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    I'll show you in a moment,
    that's actually quite useful.
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    Now, the next question
    that you would like to ask
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    is, what would you like to measure?
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    What would you like to analyze?
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    And the thing
    which you'd most like to analyze,
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    we're a fair distance from.
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    It's what's called
    "fever of undiagnosed origin."
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    Someone comes into the clinic,
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    they have a fever, they feel bad.
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    What do they have?
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    Do they have T.B.?
    Do they have AIDS?
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    Do they have a common cold?
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    The triage problem.
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    That's a hard problem
    for reasons that I won't go through.
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    There are an awful lot of things
    that you'd like to distinguish among.
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    But then there are a series of things:
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    AIDS, hepatitis, malaria, TB, others
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    and simpler ones,
    such as guidance of treatment.
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    Now even that's
    more complicated than you think.
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    A friend of mine works
    in transcultural psychiatry,
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    and he is interested in the question
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    of why people do
    and don't take their meds.
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    So, Dapsone, or something like that,
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    you have to take it for a while.
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    He has a wonderful story
    of talking to a villager in India
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    and saying, "Have you taken
    your Dapsone?" "Yes."
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    "Have you taken it every day?" "Yes."
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    "Have you taken if for a month?" "Yes."
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    What the guy actually meant
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    was that he'd fed a 30-day dose of Dapsone
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    to his dog, that morning.
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    (Laughter)
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    He was telling the truth.
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    Because in a different culture,
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    the dog is a surrogate for you,
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    you know, "today," "this month,"
    "since the rainy season" -
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    there are lots of opportunities
    for misunderstanding,
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    and so an issue here is to,
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    in some cases, to figure out
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    how to deal with matters
    that seem uninteresting,
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    like compliance.
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    Now, take a look at what a typical
    test looks like.
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    Prick a finger, you get some blood,
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    about 50 microliters.
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    That's about all you're going to get,
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    because you can't use
    the usual sort of systems.
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    You can't manipulate it very well,
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    although I'll show something
    about that in a moment.
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    So, you take the drop of blood,
    no further manipulations,
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    you put it on a little device,
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    the device filters out the blood cells,
    lets the serum go through,
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    and you get a series of colors
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    down in the bottom there.
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    And the colors indicate
    "disease" or "normal."
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    But even that's complicated,
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    because to you, to me,
    colors might indicate "normal,"
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    but, after all, we're all suffering from
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    probably an excess of education.
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    What you do about something which requires
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    quantitative analysis?
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    And so the solution
    that we and many other people
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    are thinking about there,
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    and at this point
    there is a dramatic flourish,
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    and out comes the universal solution
    to everything these days,
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    which is a cell phone.
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    In this particular case, a camera phone.
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    They're everywhere,
    six billion a month in India.
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    And the idea is that what one does,
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    is to take the device,
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    you dip it, you develop the color,
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    you take a picture, the picture
    goes to a central laboratory.
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    You don't have to send out a doctor,
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    you send out somebody who can
    just take the sample,
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    and in the clinic either a doctor,
    or ideally a computer
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    in this case, does the analysis.
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    Turns out to work actually quite well,
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    particularly when your color printer
    has printed the color bars
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    that indicate how things work.
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    So, my view of the health care worker
    of the future
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    is not a doctor,
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    but is an 18-year-old,
    otherwise unemployed, who has two things:
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    He has a backpack full of these tests,
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    and a lancet to occasionally
    take a blood sample,
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    and an AK-47.
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    And these are the things
    that get him through his day.
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    There's another
    very interesting connection here,
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    and that is that what one wants to do
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    is to pass through useful information
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    over what is generally
    a pretty awful telephone system.
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    It turns out there's an enormous
    amount of information
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    already available on that subject,
    which is the Mars Rover problem.
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    How do you get back an accurate view
    of the color on Mars
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    if you have a really terrible
    bandwidth to do it with?
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    And the answer is not complicated
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    but it's one which I don't want
    to go through here,
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    other than to say
    that the communication systems
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    for doing this are really
    pretty well understood.
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    Also, a fact which you may not know
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    is that the compute
    capability of this thing
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    is not so different
    from the compute capability
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    of your desktop computer.
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    This is a fantastic device
    which is only beginning to be tapped.
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    I don't know whether the idea of
    one computer, one child makes any sense.
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    Here's the computer of the future,
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    because this screen is already
    there and they're ubiquitous.
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    All right now let me show you just
    a little bit about advanced devices.
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    And we'll start by posing
    a little problem.
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    What you see here
    is another centimeter-sized device,
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    and the different colors
    are different colors of dye.
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    And you notice something
    which might strike you
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    as a little bit interesting,
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    which is the yellow seems to disappear,
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    get through the blue,
    and then get through the red.
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    How does that happen?
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    How do you make something
    flow through something?
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    And, of course the answer is, "You don't."
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    You make it flow under and over.
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    But now the question is:
    How do you make it flow
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    under and over in a piece of paper?
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    The answer is that what you do -
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    and the details are not
    terribly important here -
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    is to make something more elaborate:
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    You take several different
    layers of paper,
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    each one containing
    its own little fluid system,
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    and you separate them by pieces of,
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    literally, double-sided carpet tape,
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    the stuff you use to stick
    the carpets onto the floor.
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    And the fluid will flow
    from one layer into the next.
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    It distributes itself,
    flows through further holes,
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    distributes itself.
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    And what you see, at the lower
    right-hand side there,
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    is a sample in which a single sample
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    of blood has been put on the top,
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    and it has gone
    through and distributed itself
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    into these 16 holes on the bottom,
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    in a piece of paper -
    basically it looks like a chip,
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    two pieces of paper thick.
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    And in this particular case
    we were just interested
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    in the replicability of that.
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    But that is, in principle,
    the way you solve
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    the "fever of unexplained origin" problem,
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    because each one of those spots
    then becomes
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    a test for a particular set
    of markers of disease,
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    and this will work in due course.
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    Here is an example of a slightly
    more complicated device.
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    There's the chip.
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    You dip in a corner.
    The fluid goes into the center.
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    It distributes itself
    out into these various
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    wells or holes, and turns color,
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    and all done with paper and carpet tape.
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    So, I think it's as low-cost
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    as we're likely to be able
    to come up and make things.
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    Now, I have one last,
    two last little stories to tell you,
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    in finishing off this business.
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    This is one: One of the things
    that one does occasionally
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    need to do is to separate
    blood cells from serum.
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    And the question was,
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    here we do it by taking a sample,
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    we put it in a centrifuge,
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    we spin it, and you get blood cells out.
    Terrific.
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    What happens if you don't
    have an electricity,
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    and a centrifuge, and whatever?
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    And we thought
    for a while of how you might do this
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    and the way, in fact,
    you do it is what's shown here.
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    You get an eggbeater,
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    which is everywhere,
    and you saw off a blade,
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    and then you take tubing,
    and you stick it on that.
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    You put the blood in, you spin it -
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    somebody sits there and spins it.
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    It works really, really well.
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    And we sat down,
    we did the physics of eggbeaters
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    and self-aligning tubes
    and all the rest of that kind of thing,
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    sent it off to a journal.
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    We were very proud of this,
    particularly the title,
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    which was "Eggbeater as Centrifuge."
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    (Laughter)
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    And we sent it off, and by return mail
    it came back.
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    I called up the editor and I said,
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    "What's going on? How is this possible?"
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    The editor said, with enormous disdain,
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    "I read this.
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    And we're not going to publish it,
  • 16:51 - 16:53
    because we only publish science."
  • 16:54 - 16:56
    And it's an important issue
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    because it means that we have to,
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    as a society,
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    think about what we value.
  • 17:01 - 17:04
    And if it's just papers
    and phys. rev. letters,
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    we've got a problem.
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    Here is another example
    of something which is -
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    details are not important,
  • 17:11 - 17:13
    but this is a little spectrophotometer.
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    It measures the absorption
    of light in a sample
  • 17:19 - 17:22
    The neat thing about this is,
    you have light source that flickers
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    on and off at about 1,000 hertz,
  • 17:24 - 17:28
    another light source that detects
    that light at 1,000 hertz,
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    and so you can run this system
    in broad daylight.
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    It performs about equivalently to a system
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    that's in the order of 100,000 dollars.
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    It costs 50 dollars.
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    We can probably make it for 50 cents,
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    if we put our mind to it.
  • 17:45 - 17:47
    Why doesn't somebody do it?
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    And the answer is,
  • 17:48 - 17:51
    "How do you make a profit
    in a capitalist system, doing that?"
  • 17:51 - 17:53
    Interesting problem.
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    So, let me finish by saying
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    that we've thought about this
    as a kind of engineering problem.
  • 18:01 - 18:05
    And we've asked: What
    is the scientific unifying idea here?
  • 18:06 - 18:08
    And we've decided
    that we should think about this
  • 18:08 - 18:09
    not so much in terms of cost,
  • 18:09 - 18:11
    but in terms of simplicity.
  • 18:11 - 18:13
    Simplicity is a neat word.
  • 18:13 - 18:15
    And you've got to think about
    what simplicity means.
  • 18:15 - 18:19
    I know what it is but I don't
    actually know what it means.
  • 18:20 - 18:23
    So, I actually was interested
    enough in this to put together
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    several groups of people.
  • 18:26 - 18:29
    And the most recent involved
    a couple of people at MIT,
  • 18:29 - 18:31
    one of them being
    an exceptionally bright kid
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    who is one of the very
    few people I would think of
  • 18:33 - 18:35
    who's an authentic genius.
  • 18:35 - 18:39
    We all struggled for an entire
    day to think about simplicity.
  • 18:39 - 18:41
    And I want to give you the answer of this
  • 18:41 - 18:43
    deep scientific thought.
  • 18:43 - 18:45
    [Our strategy: Simplicity.
    What is simplicity?]
  • 18:45 - 18:49
    ["It's impossible to f..k it up"]
    (Laughter)
  • 18:50 - 18:52
    So, in a sense, you get what you pay for.
  • 18:52 - 18:54
    Thank you very much.
  • 18:55 - 18:56
    (Laughter) (Applause)
Title:
A lab the size of a postage stamp | George Whitesides | TEDxBoston
Description:

Traditional lab tests for disease diagnosis can be too expensive and cumbersome for the regions most in need. George Whitesides' ingenious answer is a foolproof tool that can be manufactured at virtually zero cost.

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18:58

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