[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.85,0:00:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Riitta Ikonen: Meet our friend Bob. Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.44,0:00:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We met on a wintery night Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.75,0:00:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the company of the members Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.82,0:00:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of New York Indoor Gardening Society. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.100,0:00:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the regulars\Nwas this charismatic gentleman Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.18,0:00:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studying the wonders\Nof carnivorous plants. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.03,0:00:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were there Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.28,0:00:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for collaborators\Nfor an art project Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.52,0:00:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at modern human's\Nbelonging to nature. Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.77,0:00:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karoline Hjorthand: We couldn't resist\Nslipping a little note in Bob's pocket Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.51,0:00:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say we'd love to hear from him. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.16,0:00:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the next day, he called us\Nand excitedly proclaimed how Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.09,0:00:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is not a time in my life\Nwhen I want to lay around in bed." Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.63,0:00:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the next week, Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.82,0:00:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were all sitting on a J train\Nto Forest Park in Queens. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.22,0:00:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: Bob has worked for decades Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.17,0:00:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in New York's fashion\Nphotography industry, Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.25,0:00:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he had to be replaced by three people Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.80,0:01:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he eventually chose\Nto move on to new adventures. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.35,0:01:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bob agreed to collaborate with us Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.73,0:01:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the condition that we wouldn't\Nmess with the style Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.96,0:01:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he had taken many decades to perfect. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.67,0:01:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we promised to do just that, Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.53,0:01:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and only added a few pine needles. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.32,0:01:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You might be wondering Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.98,0:01:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why the two of us were trimming\NBob's pine needle beret in the park Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.18,0:01:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the first place. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.49,0:01:26.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We met a few years prior, Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.70,0:01:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was investigating in the internet, Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.62,0:01:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for a collaborator\Nfor an art project Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.74,0:01:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at modern human's\Nrelationship to nature. Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.09,0:01:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I do what people do, Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.33,0:01:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go to Google and I type in three words: Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.59,0:01:44.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Norway," Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.91,0:01:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"grannies" and "photographer." Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.85,0:01:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I click on the number one\Nsearch result, Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.28,0:01:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was Karoline Hjorthand. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.20,0:01:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: I had just put out a book\Nabout Norwegian grandmothers. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.95,0:01:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And initially, we teamed up Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.53,0:02:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look at how natural phenomena\Nwere explained through human form. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.64,0:02:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we started investigating folk tales Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.92,0:02:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a small coastal city in Norway. Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.54,0:02:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: We reasoned that the older\Nthe local interviewee, Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.05,0:02:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the closer we would be\Nto these talking rocks of these stories. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.81,0:02:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: Agnes, for example, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.18,0:02:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Norway's oldest parachuting granny. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.61,0:02:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her latest jump was at 91. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.61,0:02:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this portrait is an homage\Nto the fabled north wind, Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.48,0:02:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often featured in Nordic folk tales. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.14,0:02:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We met another fabled character\Ncalled Lyktemann, Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.18,0:02:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a bog just outside of Oslo. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.93,0:02:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lyktemann's presence as mysterious lights Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.28,0:02:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been recorded for centuries Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.68,0:02:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in many different cultures\Nunder as many different names, Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.93,0:02:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, Joan the wad, will-o'-the-wisp, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.26,0:02:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the Man of the lantern. Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.63,0:02:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The contemporary view Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.36,0:02:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the contemporary\Nexplanation to these lights Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.71,0:03:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that they are the product\Nof ignited marsh gas. Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.65,0:03:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more adventurous view Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.40,0:03:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that a character appears\Nwhen the fog hangs low, Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.67,0:03:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are unwary travelers about\Nwho have lost their path. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.68,0:03:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: He is known for being\Nquite a mischievous character, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.92,0:03:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never quite revealing the true nature\Nof his intentions. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.42,0:03:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: And as Bengt is an expert\Nin astronavigaiton, Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.97,0:03:23.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an ex-submarine captain, Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.67,0:03:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the previous chief mate\Non board the tall ship Christian Radich, Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.60,0:03:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bengt was the perfect\Npersonification of Lyktemann. Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.00,0:03:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: In our initial quest Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.69,0:03:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of looking into the contemporary\Nrole of folklore, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.33,0:03:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were quickly pooh-poohed Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.06,0:03:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for looking into something seen\Nas childish, children's bedtime stories. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.28,0:03:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even saying the word "folklore," Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.26,0:03:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got people looking really puzzled. Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.26,0:03:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: And it wasn't just the accent. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.95,0:03:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.27,0:03:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: We even had an eighth generation\Nlocal potter state Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.52,0:03:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people from this region Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.74,0:04:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have come up with some\Nof this nation's best inventions, Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.11,0:04:06.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they don't have time to turn rocks\Nand wonder what is under. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.54,0:04:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This rejection was exactly what we needed Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.77,0:04:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep poking further into this subject. Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.10,0:04:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.94,0:04:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: We continued to interview people Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.79,0:04:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about their relationship\Nwith their surroundings, Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.14,0:04:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and started wondering Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.56,0:04:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's happening\Nwith people's imagination. Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.34,0:04:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can our relationship to nature\Nreally be explained so pragmatically, Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.23,0:04:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so entirely boringly, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.94,0:04:33.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that a rock is just\Na good old straightforward rock, Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.38,0:04:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lake is just a basic wet place, Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.19,0:04:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entirely separate from us? Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.56,0:04:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can our surroundings really be explained Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.13,0:04:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to such a dull degree of rationality? Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.17,0:04:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: The name of our project,\N"Eyes as Big as Plates," Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.46,0:04:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is borrowed from a folk tale. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.55,0:04:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's one with a dog\Nthat's living beneath a bridge Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.01,0:04:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another version, Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.21,0:04:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there is a troll\Ndoing the same thing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.76,0:05:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this open-eyed\Nand potentially risky approach Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.41,0:05:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to seeing the world around you Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.67,0:05:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has become an emblem of the curiosity\Nthat guides our interactions. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.90,0:05:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: Serendipity is our project manager. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.68,0:05:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And ideally, we meet our collaborators\Nthrough random chance. Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.69,0:05:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the opposite lane in the swimming pool, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.84,0:05:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the choir practice, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.45,0:05:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a noodle bar, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.82,0:05:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in a Senegalese fishing harbor, Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.12,0:05:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you do. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.79,0:05:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each image starts with a conversation, Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.19,0:05:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much like a casual interview. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.87,0:05:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: And we never call\Nthese collaborators "models," Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.91,0:05:39.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as there are three authors to each image, Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.79,0:05:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all equally crucial\Nto the realization of their portrait. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.80,0:05:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no age limit, Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.92,0:05:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely anybody\Nwith an interesting lived life Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.51,0:05:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is more than qualified to join. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.29,0:05:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: This is Boubou. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.86,0:05:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His son-in-law happened to be\Nin this harbor Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.23,0:06:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we came looking for locations. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.70,0:06:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one impromptu house visit, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.77,0:06:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fish market shopping spree later, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.58,0:06:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Boubou and his family\Nall waded in a low tide with us. Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.47,0:06:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: A wearable sculpture is born\Nfrom the conversation Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.81,0:06:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with each collaborator Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.29,0:06:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is made from materials\Nfound in the surroundings. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.55,0:06:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About one third of Senegal's arable land\Nis devoted to millet, Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.93,0:06:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an incredibly itchy to wear, Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.71,0:06:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nutritious and hardy staple\Nwith deep cultural roots. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.63,0:06:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Mane, Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.35,0:06:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the grand grandmothers\Nof the [unclear] village, Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.05,0:06:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a tornado of vigor and energy. Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.97,0:06:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she applauded to our invitation Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.28,0:06:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to portray her in her personal\Nfavorite crop, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.49,0:06:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with which she works every day. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.77,0:06:52.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: It's important\Nthat participation is voluntary. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.52,0:06:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.86,0:06:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have doubts in the beginning, Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.80,0:06:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will definitely regret it Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.63,0:07:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the time Riitta is stuffing\Ncold, wet bull kelp up your nose. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.60,0:07:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.06,0:07:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Working with an analog camera\Nmeans the process can be slow Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.28,0:07:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and physically challenging. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.09,0:07:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The person in front of the camera Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.72,0:07:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be kneeling for three hours\Nin a freezing sleet, Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.14,0:07:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be bombarded by mosquitoes, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.20,0:07:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or actually, they can also be allergic Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.05,0:07:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the local flora\Nthey've just been coated in. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.27,0:07:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: And many other things. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.74,0:07:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.55,0:07:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, there's,\Nof course, the elements. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.32,0:07:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unpredictability is one\Nof the main drivers Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.03,0:07:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that keeps this process interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.27,0:07:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, in Iceland, Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.08,0:07:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were in operation mode,\Nshooting for two weeks, Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.74,0:07:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without knowing that the camera\Nwas not functioning properly. Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.52,0:07:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ooh, right? Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.02,0:07:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: And because we work\Nwith analog cameras Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.08,0:07:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with actual film rolls, Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.40,0:07:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the excitement from the shoots keep giving Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.74,0:07:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until we pick up\Nthe negatives from the lab. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.66,0:08:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: Luckily, Edda, pictured here, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.35,0:08:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was one of the few that was captured\Non film in Iceland. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.30,0:08:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pictured here amid bubbling,\Nsteaming hot springs Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.97,0:08:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between two tectonic plates. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.09,0:08:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Supposedly there are these little\Nhot spring birds Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.19,0:08:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that dive into these bubbles, Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.23,0:08:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and according to the legend, Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.11,0:08:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these little birds represent\Nthe souls of the dead. Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.36,0:08:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the honor Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.16,0:08:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of working with some of the toughest Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.63,0:08:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bravest and coolest people around, Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.49,0:08:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thoroughly enjoy Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.28,0:08:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how some of our works and portraits Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.78,0:08:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stomp of stereotypes about age, Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.32,0:08:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gender and nationality. Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.60,0:08:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: To us, much of Western society\Nis unnecessarily confused Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.30,0:08:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to the usefulness Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.94,0:08:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this absolutely\Nrock and roll demographic. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.97,0:08:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: Attitude, life experience and stamina\Nare some of the main traits Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.79,0:08:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have found amongst\Nall our collaborators, Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.36,0:09:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as a formidable curiosity\Nfor new experiences. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.55,0:09:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: We have noticed\Nhow the solitary figures in our images Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.83,0:09:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are increasingly viewed as representations\Nof the age of loneliness, Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.07,0:09:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,known as the eremocene. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.44,0:09:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: We are trying to encourage Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.00,0:09:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a new way of participating in Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.84,0:09:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and communicating with our surroundings. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.48,0:09:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: There is the assumption Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.82,0:09:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that humans have created\Na new geological epoch, Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.76,0:09:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need to learn hot to see\Nwhat our role is in it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.21,0:09:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: We'll be working with farmers, Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.88,0:09:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cosmologists, geoecologists, Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.03,0:09:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,etnomusicologists and marine biologists Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.71,0:09:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see how art can change\Nthe way we think, act and live. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.10,0:09:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: It's not clear who or what\Nis the protagonist in our work, Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.83,0:10:02.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's the human figure\Nor the nature around them, Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.35,0:10:03.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we like it that way. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.09,0:10:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ten years and 15 countries\Ninto the project, Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.12,0:10:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are not sure how, if,\Nor when this project will end. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.07,0:10:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: We have vowed to continue\Nas long as it's fun, Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.58,0:10:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll keep making new images Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.63,0:10:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and more books that explore -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.09,0:10:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: How to balance life amongst\Nthe effects of the climate crisis. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.39,0:10:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The writer Roy Scranton\Nbeautifully summarized Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.09,0:10:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how our project can be approached. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.07,0:10:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We need to learn to see, Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.67,0:10:35.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just with Western eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.71,0:10:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with Islamic eyes and Inuit eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.49,0:10:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just with human eyes\Nbut with golden-cheeked warbler eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.09,0:10:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coho-salmon eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.86,0:10:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and polar bear eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.86,0:10:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not even just with eyes at all, Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.28,0:10:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with the wild, barely articulate\Nbeing of clouds and seas Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.26,0:10:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and seas and rocks and trees and stars." Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.73,0:11:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RI: Perhaps if we start seeing ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.01,0:11:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through coho-salmon eyes Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.18,0:11:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we might begin to synchronize better\Nwith our fellow flora, Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.57,0:11:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fauna and fungi. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.72,0:11:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To do this requires\Nboth imagination and empathy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.12,0:11:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And curiosity is at the root of both. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.43,0:11:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KH: As Halvar, one of our first\Ncollaborators said nearly 10 years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.93,0:11:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If you stop being curious, Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.90,0:11:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might as well be dead." Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.76,0:11:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Both) Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.95,0:11:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.16,0:11:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)