[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.45,0:00:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've had some neat \Nopportunities in my life Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.74,0:00:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to preach in some different places, Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.08,0:00:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different countries, Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.03,0:00:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different venues. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.12,0:00:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I regard getting to be here Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.28,0:00:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the weekend as perhaps Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.62,0:00:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the highest honor of my life Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.14,0:00:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get to participate and have this pulpit Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.85,0:00:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to proclaim God's Word to a church Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.05,0:00:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has been so massively influential Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.16,0:00:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my life. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.04,0:00:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I thank God deeply Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.81,0:00:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the privilege of getting to open Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.66,0:00:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God's Word to you this morning. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.68,0:00:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thank you specifically Garrett, Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.52,0:00:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for giving me this opportunity. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.50,0:00:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope it won't be one that you regret. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.76,0:00:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you'll know whether it is Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.23,0:00:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in just a short hour. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.82,0:00:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yesterday, I found myself "amen-ing" Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.93,0:01:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the faithfulness of Charles and Dick; Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.73,0:01:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God had given grace to them Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.32,0:01:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep them faithful all of these years, Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.38,0:01:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found myself filled with tears. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.79,0:01:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a 13 year old daughter, Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.42,0:01:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so she kept giving that embarrassed look, Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.46,0:01:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like would you stop \Ngulping back those sobs? Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.57,0:01:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I've pastored the church I pastor now Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.51,0:01:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for twelve years, Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.85,0:01:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I've gone a quarter of the distance Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.27,0:01:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these men. Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.80,0:01:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I suspect that the next three legs, Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.04,0:01:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the next three decades Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.87,0:01:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are harder, not easier. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.38,0:01:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I just amass and think Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.64,0:01:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about all the difficulties Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.99,0:01:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a person goes through \Nin the course of a year, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.64,0:01:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to keep preaching the Word Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.18,0:01:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and keep loving the people, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.46,0:01:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just gives me tremendous Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.98,0:01:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respect and love for Charles and Dick. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.58,0:02:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where is Dick this morning? Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.05,0:02:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to be able to look at him. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.82,0:02:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There you are. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.68,0:02:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have the privilege of having served - Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.50,0:02:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a number of co-pastors, Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.02,0:02:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I have the privilege of serving Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.81,0:02:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beside one co-pastor in particular, Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.72,0:02:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jeff King, who is one \Nof my dearest friends Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.88,0:02:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the planet Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.32,0:02:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is the opposite of me in every way. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.80,0:02:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Steve Welch, who's a friend Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.39,0:02:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this congregation says that Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.82,0:02:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he looks like Dick. Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.04,0:02:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't look like Charles, Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.65,0:02:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's where the similarities end. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.72,0:02:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know what it takes to put up with me Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.78,0:02:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the course of a week or a year. Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.08,0:02:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if he were here would say Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.67,0:02:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he knows what it takes to put up with him. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.20,0:02:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a miracle when \Npeople can stay friends Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.45,0:02:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stay side-by-side in the ministry, Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.01,0:03:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when Mack Tomlinson got up yesterday Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.92,0:03:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said: think about church history. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.12,0:03:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many have labored side by side Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.91,0:03:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for forty years. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.81,0:03:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not expert in church history, Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.59,0:03:09.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I kind of thought - Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.83,0:03:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my first initial reaction was, well Mack, Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.78,0:03:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's easy - there must be a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.20,0:03:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I couldn't think of any. Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.18,0:03:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, no small task. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.59,0:03:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you ought to pray fervently Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.68,0:03:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in an informed way Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.96,0:03:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the four men who are graced Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.28,0:03:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be your elders, Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.34,0:03:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Lord would give them Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.76,0:03:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a supernatural unity. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.06,0:03:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have the privilege of laboring aside Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.09,0:03:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some very faithful brothers, Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.52,0:03:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I know that unity among the pastors - Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.91,0:03:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even pastors as like-minded Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.39,0:03:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as godly as the ones \NI serve alongside of - Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.76,0:03:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it takes work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.29,0:03:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing short of work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.34,0:03:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have spent way more time in Denny's Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.62,0:03:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than I ever wanted to working Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.78,0:04:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep that unity at times. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.60,0:04:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a miracle that it's kept. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.93,0:04:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was delighted to be here yesterday Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.81,0:04:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because what you did yesterday Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.11,0:04:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for your pastors was right. Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.01,0:04:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just right at so many levels. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.42,0:04:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're to respect those who labor among us Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.76,0:04:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and are over us in the Lord Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.40,0:04:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and admonish us and esteem them Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.98,0:04:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very highly because of their work. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.89,0:04:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people are afraid of doing \Nthings like you did yesterday Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.29,0:04:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it might make the pastor proud. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.77,0:04:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not denying that \Nthere are proud pastors, Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.95,0:04:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'll be honest with you, Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.33,0:04:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the general tendency of pastors Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.65,0:04:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not to be proud, Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.35,0:04:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to be discouraged. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.43,0:04:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the pastors I meet Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.38,0:04:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are mildly to severely depressed Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.99,0:04:52.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about who they are. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.15,0:04:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so for them to get a season Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.68,0:04:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they get to hear what God's grace Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.53,0:04:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is doing in their life, Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.64,0:04:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is a sweet, sweet thing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.02,0:05:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't make it every Sunday. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.39,0:05:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll spoil them, Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.43,0:05:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it can be a really great treat, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.40,0:05:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say, every forty years or so. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.71,0:05:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gift I want to give you Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.45,0:05:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this morning is a text. Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.68,0:05:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a text that I believe Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.02,0:05:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if it's heard and obeyed, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.35,0:05:36.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will give, I hope, another forty years Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.47,0:05:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of tremendous blessing to the church. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.03,0:05:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dick and Charles are probably not hoping Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.12,0:05:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for another forty years, Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.97,0:05:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm talking about even beyond them. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.16,0:05:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm hoping that this passage Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.84,0:05:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I'm going to share with you Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.80,0:06:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes a catalyst; Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.47,0:06:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes a spur; Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.35,0:06:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes an encouragement Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.66,0:06:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sets a culture Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.99,0:06:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the pastors of Lake Road Chapel Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.81,0:06:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are full of joy, Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.04,0:06:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where the people of Lake Road Chapel Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.00,0:06:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are benefiting from them Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.18,0:06:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and profiting from them Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.06,0:06:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a very, very long time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.41,0:06:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I'm aware that whenever I \Nspeak at Lake Road Chapel, Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.38,0:06:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that James Jennings is going to make sure Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.48,0:06:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it goes all over the planet. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.96,0:06:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me just say it's my hope Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.11,0:06:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this message, this verse, Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.92,0:06:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be used by God Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.29,0:06:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fill more and more \Npastor's lives with joy, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.66,0:06:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to see more and more people Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.57,0:06:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profiting, taking advantage of, Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.03,0:06:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reaping a harvest from their pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.32,0:07:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you open your \NBibles to Hebrews 13:17? Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.05,0:07:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 13:17 Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.65,0:07:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like most of you, Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.76,0:07:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew nothing about what \Nwas going to unfold yesterday. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.35,0:07:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just got the emails that promised me Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.95,0:07:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't get any more emails. Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.69,0:07:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I had no idea this was going to be Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.96,0:07:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a theme verse yesterday. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.56,0:07:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think it's a good verse Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.00,0:07:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for an occasion like this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.80,0:07:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It comes in the book of Hebrews. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.36,0:07:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It comes in the last chapter, Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.82,0:07:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the chapter that covers Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.49,0:07:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all kinds of exhortations Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.65,0:07:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from not being covetous, Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.62,0:07:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to not letting your \Nmarriage bed by defiled, Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.78,0:07:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to remembering past leaders, Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.55,0:07:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the midst of all these Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.31,0:07:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,various exhortations in \Nthe book of Hebrews, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.58,0:07:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the author to the book of Hebrews Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.47,0:07:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says these words, Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.97,0:07:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Obey your leaders and submit to them, Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.90,0:07:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they are keeping watch over your souls Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.92,0:08:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as those who will have to give an account. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.32,0:08:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let them do this with joy Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.08,0:08:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not with groaning, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.21,0:08:16.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that would be of no advantage to you." Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.91,0:08:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's pray. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.90,0:08:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Father, we want to ask \NYou that this one verse Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.43,0:08:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be impressed; Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.96,0:08:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be branded; Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.13,0:08:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be tattooed; Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.24,0:08:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be glued to the very fabric Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.83,0:08:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our souls, Lord God. Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.41,0:08:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That You'd shed light on this Word Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.65,0:08:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it sticks with us through life Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.78,0:08:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Lord, that even \Npastors who are not here Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.84,0:08:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this morning, but who may pastor Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.80,0:08:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake Road in the future, Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.41,0:08:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe children in this very room Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.16,0:08:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who may grow up to be some \Nof the future shepherds, Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.87,0:08:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they would inherit a culture Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.50,0:08:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of joyful pastoring. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.46,0:08:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Lord God, we pray for Charles and Dick Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.93,0:08:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the gift that they receive\Nfrom this congregation would not be Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.66,0:09:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a special day once every few decades, Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.11,0:09:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a joyful congregation to pastor. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.96,0:09:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pray, Lord God, that You would create Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.24,0:09:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Charles and in Dick Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.82,0:09:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in Garrett and in Mason Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.85,0:09:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of ministry that would be Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.34,0:09:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tremendously profitable - Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.72,0:09:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eternally profitable Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.81,0:09:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Your people knowing Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.08,0:09:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I pray this in Christ's name, Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.62,0:09:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amen. Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.41,0:09:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you were going to give \Nthis sermon a name, Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.58,0:09:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could call it: Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.46,0:09:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How To Get the Most Out of Your Pastors." Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.63,0:09:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you were going to give it \Na cynical name, you could call it: Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.67,0:09:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How to Take Advantage of Them." Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.06,0:09:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I say that because the word advantage Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.40,0:09:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is right there in the text. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.99,0:09:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole idea is that the writer Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.70,0:09:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the book of Hebrews wants you - Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.53,0:09:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each one of you individually - Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.06,0:09:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get some advantage; Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.99,0:10:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get some - the NASB translates it Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.32,0:10:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some profit, from the men Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.42,0:10:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who God places over His church. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.38,0:10:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it says, "obey your leaders Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.03,0:10:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and submit to them, Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.17,0:10:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they are keeping watch over your souls Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.35,0:10:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as those who will have \Nto give an account. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.23,0:10:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let them do this with joy\Nand not with groaning, Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.80,0:10:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that would be of no advantage to you." Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.82,0:10:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the very simple idea Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.36,0:10:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pulsing at the core of this passage Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.05,0:10:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that when pastors are finding joy Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.32,0:10:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their congregations; Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.36,0:10:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when their joy is maintained Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.60,0:10:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are strengthened Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.04,0:10:34.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the joy of the Lord, Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.49,0:10:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the congregation is benefited. Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.30,0:10:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are given a tremendous Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.83,0:10:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eternal advantage. Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.12,0:10:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes we come at this \Nfrom the pastor's end. Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.88,0:10:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We remember the verse that says, Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.77,0:10:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"watch your life and \Nyour doctrine carefully, Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.37,0:10:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by so doing, you will save Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.73,0:10:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both yourselves and your hearers." Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.21,0:10:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That passage says, hey, pastor, Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.98,0:11:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you watch yourself, Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.05,0:11:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you'll be of eternal advantage Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.54,0:11:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to your people. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.64,0:11:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This passage comes at \Nit from another angle Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.21,0:11:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and says, hey, congregation; Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.12,0:11:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hey, sheep; Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.08,0:11:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hey, people of God, Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.73,0:11:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watch your pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.27,0:11:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch your attitude towards them Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.30,0:11:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your actions towards them, Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.96,0:11:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they may be filled with joy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.90,0:11:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do that, it will benefit you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.66,0:11:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will help you Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.60,0:11:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they are full of joy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.15,0:11:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this passage is not like some passages Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.21,0:11:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Bible. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.88,0:11:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some passages in the Bible are Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.01,0:11:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very hard to understand. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.09,0:11:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, like when the Gospel was Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.22,0:11:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preached to those \Nwho were dead in 1 Peter. Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.37,0:11:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You kind of scratch your head. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.57,0:11:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or when it speaks of baptism for the dead Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.99,0:11:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1 Corinthians 15. Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.16,0:11:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I read recently there's Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.70,0:11:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like 52 possible interpretations Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.43,0:11:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that passage. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.82,0:11:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understand that passage, Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.34,0:12:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there are 51 other people who don't. Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.60,0:12:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it's a difficult \Nsituation sometimes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.83,0:12:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This passage isn't like that though. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.65,0:12:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's easy to understand. Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.05,0:12:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just hard to hear. Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.22,0:12:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's got that four-letter word in it Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.66,0:12:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our culture loves so much: Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.43,0:12:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obey. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.80,0:12:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Obey your leaders Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.46,0:12:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and submit to them, Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.34,0:12:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they are keeping watch over Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.50,0:12:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your souls as those..." Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.89,0:12:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's easy to understand. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.05,0:12:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means submit yourself to; Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.24,0:12:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obey your leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.46,0:12:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And come up under them. Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.85,0:12:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's not hard to figure out. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.70,0:12:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't really need a massive Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.53,0:12:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bible commentary lesson this morning Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.90,0:12:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on exactly what this means. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.61,0:12:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's abundantly plain what this means. Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.08,0:13:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's difficult though is doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.32,0:13:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And not just doing it, Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.98,0:13:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but loving it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.33,0:13:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's hard for many in our day Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.41,0:13:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to value a call to obedience, Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.86,0:13:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if we're honest, Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.06,0:13:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's even often hard \Nfor a mature Christian Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.67,0:13:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to value obeying their pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.31,0:13:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of my co-pastors says Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.22,0:13:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody loves being elder-led Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.03,0:13:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until they don't. Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.28,0:13:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a sense in which everybody loves Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.74,0:13:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this idea of good, strong leadership Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.46,0:13:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the church. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.41,0:13:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need strong leadership in the church, Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.87,0:13:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the leadership gets \Nall up in your business. Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.77,0:13:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then somebody else \Nneeds strong leadership. Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.14,0:13:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That leadership needs leadership. Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.92,0:13:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet the passage tells us Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.82,0:13:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are to obey our leaders - Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.29,0:13:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the leaders of our local congregation, Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.60,0:13:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and submit to them. Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.88,0:14:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to begin by just giving you Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.98,0:14:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,six reasons why this is hard. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.43,0:14:07.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not six explanations of \Nwhat the passage means. Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.69,0:14:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's easy. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.66,0:14:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But six explanations for why we can Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.51,0:14:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find this hard to hear. Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.06,0:14:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first is there simply are Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.82,0:14:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many churches that abuse. Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.63,0:14:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There simply are many churches Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.08,0:14:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have abusive leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.77,0:14:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the things we heard last night Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.39,0:14:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was how many people found in Lake Road Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.72,0:14:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of leadership they \Nhadn't experienced before. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.44,0:14:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had experienced overbearing Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.66,0:14:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or distant or lording-\Nit-over-you leadership, Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.24,0:14:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when they experienced\Na different kind of leadership, Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.06,0:14:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was like a breath of fresh air to them. Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.58,0:14:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the simple fact is Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.06,0:14:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that many people have a hard time\Nbeing told to obey their leaders, Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.75,0:14:48.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they've experienced \Nabusive leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.97,0:14:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the congregation I pastor, Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.36,0:14:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are women who have Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.05,0:14:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally been physically abused Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.80,0:14:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.94,0:14:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so to come without any explanation Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.93,0:15:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, now obey us, Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.02,0:15:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be hard to hear. Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.67,0:15:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second reason it's hard to hear Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.47,0:15:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obey your leaders and submit to them Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.25,0:15:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is because we are - Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.46,0:15:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you've spent any time \Nin North America; Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.29,0:15:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of you have spent all \Nyour lives in North America; Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.74,0:15:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of us have spent some of your time Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.91,0:15:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in North America - Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.17,0:15:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you weren't aware, you're in \NNorth America this morning. Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.02,0:15:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so if you spent any \Ntime in North America, Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.05,0:15:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have been infected by Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.16,0:15:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some degree of the radical individualism Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.88,0:15:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is dominant in our entire culture. Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.12,0:15:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So our culture is just full Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.48,0:15:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of reinforcing radical individualism. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.29,0:15:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Burger King says "have it your way." Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.44,0:15:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anne of Green Gables says, Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.08,0:15:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"just follow your heart." Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.66,0:15:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yoda says, "trust your feelings." Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.79,0:15:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frank Sinatra says, "I did it my way." Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.40,0:15:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You didn't know that Yoda Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.92,0:15:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Anne of Green Gables Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.16,0:15:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had the same worldview, but they do. Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.66,0:16:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's this basic: you follow you. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.06,0:16:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're going to be properly led, Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.62,0:16:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to be true to your own heart. Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.51,0:16:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Enter: people who are \Nimpossible to pastor. Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.01,0:16:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if your highest authority Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.27,0:16:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is whatever you're feeling right now, Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.82,0:16:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you cannot be led. Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.34,0:16:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it will never sound \Nlike good news to you Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.94,0:16:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obey someone else Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.90,0:16:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even worse, it will never Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.82,0:16:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sound like good news to you Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.65,0:16:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obey God. Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.01,0:16:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert Bella, the sociologist, Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.67,0:16:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tells of a story where he was Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.40,0:16:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interviewing people about their religion. Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.50,0:16:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He interviewed a woman named Sheila. Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.63,0:16:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Sheila, \Nwhat's your religion?" Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.80,0:16:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "It's Sheila-ism." Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.19,0:16:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just basically \Nwhatever Sheila believes Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.69,0:16:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes her religion. Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.18,0:16:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the reasons \Nwe have a hard time Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.19,0:16:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hearing, "obey your leaders," Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.63,0:16:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is first, we know churches that abuse; Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.49,0:16:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,second, because of radical individualism. Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.48,0:17:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Third is superstar religion. Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.10,0:17:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We live in a day and age Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.61,0:17:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of mega superstar religion. Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.98,0:17:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not entirely new. Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.17,0:17:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were famous preachers Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.57,0:17:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the New Testament.\N Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.13,0:17:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We even heard about one brother Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.80,0:17:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was famous among all the churches. Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.75,0:17:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There have always been godly preachers Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.99,0:17:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that rose to the top. Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.68,0:17:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not always a bad thing. Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.28,0:17:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One person when D.L. Moody was chosen Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.97,0:17:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to preach a particular set of \Nmeetings or crusades said, Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.24,0:17:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why does D.L. Moody Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.35,0:17:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always have the corner on God's work?" Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.72,0:17:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one person responded, Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.100,0:17:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, no. It's not that D.L. Moody Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.60,0:17:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has the corner on God's work. Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.07,0:17:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's that God has the \Ncorner on D.L. Moody." Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.87,0:17:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's ok that there have always been Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.86,0:17:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men who have been raised up by God Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.85,0:17:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be tremendous bright lights Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.80,0:17:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the Kingdom. Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.14,0:17:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the problem can be that you fill Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.08,0:17:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your iPod with them Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.35,0:17:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you fill your radio with them Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.05,0:17:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you fill your DVD player with them, Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.95,0:18:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of a sudden, you can't hear Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.55,0:18:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the man who's been \Nentrusted with your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.31,0:18:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the critical difference between Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.24,0:18:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best iPod preacher - Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.42,0:18:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I like iPod preachers; Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.84,0:18:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I listen to iPod preachers. Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.26,0:18:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later, just to prove how balanced I am, Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.22,0:18:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll quote one of them. Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.13,0:18:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, the problem is we can start to listen Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.11,0:18:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to these men so much Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.68,0:18:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we begin to believe that the ministry Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.76,0:18:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is only about getting \Nthe Word to our ears. Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.24,0:18:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But beloved, the ministry Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.49,0:18:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is having someone's eyes on your life. Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.02,0:18:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's something that \Nyour pastors can do - Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.58,0:18:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's something that Garrett and Mason Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.70,0:18:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Charles and Dick, Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.91,0:18:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whoever your home pastor is Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.48,0:18:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're visiting this weekend; Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.14,0:18:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's something they can do Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.71,0:18:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that no Internet preacher can do. Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.02,0:18:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is they can know you. Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.69,0:18:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can watch you. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.21,0:19:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can know where you're disobeying. Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.56,0:19:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can know where you \Nhaven't yet submitted. Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.65,0:19:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're able to speak into that Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.100,0:19:08.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a clarity and a precision Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.100,0:19:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Internet does not afford. Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.14,0:19:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fourth thing that can keep us - Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.42,0:19:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the fourth thing that can Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.19,0:19:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really make it hard for us to hear Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.84,0:19:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the call to obey your pastors Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.77,0:19:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the Bible. Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.58,0:19:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bible makes us nervous Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.01,0:19:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about just listening to men, doesn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.48,0:19:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's not just like it's this Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.34,0:19:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,superstar culture that we live in,\Nor the radical individualism we live in. Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.61,0:19:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul the apostle said, Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.82,0:19:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"even if I or an angel Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.08,0:19:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come preaching to you another gospel, Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.08,0:19:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let him be accursed." Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.42,0:19:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the Bible itself says, Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.89,0:19:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not make the authority of men ultimate. Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.59,0:19:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just because a guy gets called an overseer Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.94,0:19:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a bishop or a pastor Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.13,0:19:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever you call him; Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.59,0:19:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because a man has an office Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.45,0:20:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not mean he has \Nan ultimate authority. Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.87,0:20:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He always has an authority \Nthat must be tested Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.62,0:20:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to the Scriptures. Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.11,0:20:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so there's a right sense Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.57,0:20:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which the Bible makes us nervous Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.33,0:20:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of human authority. Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.77,0:20:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Bible's authority Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.50,0:20:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gives us human authority. Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.96,0:20:15.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't make it ultimate, Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.99,0:20:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it makes it real. Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.00,0:20:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a real authority Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.89,0:20:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which the Bible gives to your pastor Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.02,0:20:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to call you and me to obey. Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.82,0:20:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just going to do five of these. Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.88,0:20:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the fifth is - Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.88,0:20:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fifth thing that would keep us Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.50,0:20:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from obeying our pastors Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.94,0:20:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finding that easy to hear Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.60,0:20:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is our flesh. Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.80,0:20:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if we've had a \Ngreat church experience; Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.69,0:20:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if we limit how \Nmany all-star preachers Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.74,0:20:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we listen to so we \Ncan always give attention Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.98,0:20:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our local church preachers; Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.53,0:20:56.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nonetheless, whatever \Nthe Spirit desires to do, Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.53,0:20:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the flesh desires the opposite. Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.41,0:21:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the flesh is present \Nin every believer, Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.74,0:21:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always giving a backwards pull Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.19,0:21:05.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against everything good and godly Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.100,0:21:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you ever want to do. Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.34,0:21:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So even though there \Nmay be part of you - Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.33,0:21:10.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's called the Spirit - Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.66,0:21:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that rises up and says yes, Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.17,0:21:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to obey these leaders; Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.60,0:21:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to submit to these leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.34,0:21:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The flesh is like a backwards pull; Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.08,0:21:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a weight, Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.18,0:21:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though it drag you \Nin the other direction. Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.32,0:21:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we need the Word of God Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.64,0:21:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to beat down the work of the flesh Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.48,0:21:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to allow us to walk in the power Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.48,0:21:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Spirit, and to cherish Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.57,0:21:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Word of God's call on our life Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.38,0:21:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obey your leaders and submit to them. Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.07,0:21:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that is what we're called to Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.50,0:21:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we're called to obey our leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.42,0:21:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're called to obey \Nthem and submit to them, Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.60,0:21:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's a difficulty \Nbecause of our flesh, Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.86,0:21:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of all-star preachers, Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.40,0:21:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the world in which we live Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.43,0:21:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how individualistic it is Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.100,0:21:55.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the abuses that \Nhave been out of there, Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.29,0:21:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because of the Bible - Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.62,0:22:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of these things \Nmake this hard to hear. Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.60,0:22:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now, we've identified what makes it Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.61,0:22:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hard to hear. Let's try to hear it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.24,0:22:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's try to hear what's being said here. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.73,0:22:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's being said here Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.54,0:22:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is obey and submit. Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.76,0:22:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here's what John Piper says Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.87,0:22:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this passage. Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.64,0:22:22.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's so good, that no one could Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.38,0:22:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever say it as well as this. Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.71,0:22:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just perfect. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.15,0:22:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(That's a joke.) Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.73,0:22:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is really good though. Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.28,0:22:37.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He goes, "what then does obey your leaders Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.45,0:22:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and submit to them mean? Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.29,0:22:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word for "obey," - peithesthe, Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.82,0:22:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a very broad word. Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.86,0:22:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means to be persuaded by. Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.30,0:22:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 6:9 Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.42,0:22:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means trust. Hebrews 2:13 Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.76,0:22:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means rely on. Luke 11:22 Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.04,0:22:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It comes to mean obey because Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.75,0:23:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what you do when \Nyou trust somebody. Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.70,0:23:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you might say it's \Na soft word for obey. Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.30,0:23:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It encourages a good \Nrelationship of trust, Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.91,0:23:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but still calls for people to be swayed Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.51,0:23:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.03,0:23:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The word for "submit," hupeikó, Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.60,0:23:15.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occurs only here in the New Testament. Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.51,0:23:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a more narrow words that means Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.32,0:23:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make room for by retiring from a seat Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.36,0:23:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or yield to or submit to. Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.22,0:23:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So with all this background, Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.74,0:23:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I would try to \Ndistill as the meaning Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.95,0:23:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be something like this. Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.63,0:23:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 13:17 means that a church Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.86,0:23:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should have a bent towards \Ntrusting its leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.44,0:23:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should have a \Ndisposition to be supportive Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.88,0:23:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your attitudes and actions Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.59,0:23:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards their goals and directions. Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.92,0:23:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should want to imitate their faith. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.80,0:23:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should have a happy \Ninclination to comply Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.96,0:23:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with their instructions. Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.36,0:23:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When my daughter was younger, Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.16,0:23:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I knew I was going to have to Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.81,0:23:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask her to do something that I knew Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.86,0:23:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was going to be harder - Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.77,0:23:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, I don't know, I told her Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.25,0:23:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd be at Dairy Queen later today Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.15,0:24:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now we were going \Nto have to go tomorrow, Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.96,0:24:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was going to \Nbreak the news to her. Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.10,0:24:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or I wanted her to \Nwear something different Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.29,0:24:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whatever it is. Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.33,0:24:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something that I knew was going to Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.16,0:24:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provoke her and be \Ndifficult for her to do. Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.03,0:24:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would get down with \Nher and sit with her, Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.29,0:24:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and before I would ask her to obey me, Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.24,0:24:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say to her: Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.28,0:24:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Jordana, may I have your heart?" Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.50,0:24:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so she was a little \Ngirl - it was so cute. Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.77,0:24:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She'd take her heart and she'd put it Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.66,0:24:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my hand. Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.19,0:24:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I'd say, "Here. Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.36,0:24:28.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have my heart." Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.47,0:24:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I would \Ngive her my heart Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.99,0:24:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put it in her hand. Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.13,0:24:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I would say, Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.27,0:24:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now I have something \Nhard to ask you to do, Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.69,0:24:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I need you to trust me. Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.01,0:24:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do I have your heart?" Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.96,0:24:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what she did when everything worked Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.96,0:24:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with my parenting, it always did work, Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.76,0:24:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she would respond that she was ready Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.80,0:24:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obey. Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.76,0:24:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what a sweet, sweet moment that is. Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.60,0:24:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what a sweet thing it is when Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.32,0:24:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's happening in a church; Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.54,0:25:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there's a sense in which Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.07,0:25:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people know they're loved, Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.96,0:25:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so sometimes the \Nleaders can come to them Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.21,0:25:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with very middle-of-the-\Nroad kinds of things Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.92,0:25:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people have an inclination to obey. Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.99,0:25:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other times, the people come Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.60,0:25:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with really risky things Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.76,0:25:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God wants them to do, Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.76,0:25:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the people have a general inclination Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.97,0:25:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these leaders will show it to me Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.83,0:25:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Word, and when they show it to me Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.76,0:25:23.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Word, I will obey it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.69,0:25:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember when I was at Immanuel Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.22,0:25:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the early days - Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.24,0:25:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember lots of unbiblical things Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.39,0:25:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going on. Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.60,0:25:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things that kept Immanuel Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.60,0:25:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changing and growing was that Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.55,0:25:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oakley Beldon, one of the \Ndeacons at that time, Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.35,0:25:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you could show it to him in the Bible, Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.75,0:25:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he would do it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.71,0:25:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It could be hard. It could be easy. Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.42,0:25:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you could show it to him there, Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.31,0:25:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he would do it. Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.61,0:25:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when there's that kind of a sense Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.02,0:25:51.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a congregation to their pastors, Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.39,0:25:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the sweetest season Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.88,0:25:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a church's life. Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.56,0:25:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When there's a readiness to do Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.26,0:26:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever the Word of God calls them to do. Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.11,0:26:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, what I want to do now Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.42,0:26:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is I want to give you three reasons Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.22,0:26:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stoke and inflame your desires Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.98,0:26:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obey and to submit to your pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.100,0:26:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to give you three reasons why Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.11,0:26:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should not just do this begrudgingly, Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.03,0:26:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but do this joyfully, Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.31,0:26:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do this zealously; Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.59,0:26:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pursue this. Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.31,0:26:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, I want you to see this Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.12,0:26:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be the reality for the rest of Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.96,0:26:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Duck and Chick's ministry Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.10,0:26:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also for the entirety of Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.40,0:26:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Marret and Gason's ministry, Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.85,0:26:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really for whoever God will give Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.82,0:26:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Lake Road. Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.06,0:26:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to see them inherit Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.87,0:26:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a spirit of obedience and \Njoyful submission Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.79,0:26:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the congregation. Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.26,0:26:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are three areas Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.13,0:26:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I want to show you. Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.60,0:26:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here's where we dive into Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.14,0:26:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the theology of the matter. Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.98,0:26:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason you should obey and submit Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.81,0:26:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to your leaders is that they are Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.37,0:27:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching out for the good of your souls. Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.29,0:27:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are watching out for the good Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.55,0:27:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your souls. Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.11,0:27:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice the text gives us a reason: Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.22,0:27:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Obey your leaders and submit to them, Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.10,0:27:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they are keeping watch Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.52,0:27:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over your souls." Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.31,0:27:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, my experience is that most Americans Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.40,0:27:19.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a pretty independent streak. Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.100,0:27:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm from Canada, so I get to \Nsay this every now and then. Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.62,0:27:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have a pretty libertarian streak. Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.50,0:27:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't like the idea of anyone Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.17,0:27:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching over their souls, Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.78,0:27:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of telling them what to do. Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.02,0:27:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the question becomes, Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.53,0:27:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how can this be good news? Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.33,0:27:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That you should actually want someone Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.42,0:27:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching you? Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.85,0:27:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is this not like Big Brother? Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.88,0:27:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is this not something invasive? Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.17,0:27:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is this not like a police state? Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.33,0:27:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it good to be having someone Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.10,0:27:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watch over your soul? Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.59,0:28:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's because of \Nthree biblical realities Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.48,0:28:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should want someone Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.54,0:28:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching our souls. Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.46,0:28:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first biblical reality is Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.46,0:28:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our souls can drift from God. Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.97,0:28:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our souls are not like a mighty mountain Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.93,0:28:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's never moved. Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.36,0:28:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As one person has put it, Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.81,0:28:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our souls are not like a boat on a lake. Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.57,0:28:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're like a boat on a river Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.70,0:28:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that need to go upstream. Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.45,0:28:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our souls are not set in orbit. Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.78,0:28:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are prone to wander, Lord, I feel it. Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.14,0:28:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prone to leave the God I love. Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.56,0:28:41.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a theme throughout \Nthe book of Hebrews that we're in. Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.15,0:28:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can look at it if you will. Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.72,0:28:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 2:1 Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.62,0:28:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Therefore we must pay \Nmuch closer attention Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.65,0:28:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the things we have heard Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.04,0:29:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lest we drift away from it." Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.96,0:29:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there's a tendency \Nin the Christian life Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.48,0:29:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to drift if you don't keep Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.32,0:29:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listening to the preaching \Nthat you've been given. Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.74,0:29:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's interesting. \NThis tendency to drift Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.35,0:29:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't just for the riff raff Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.69,0:29:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the edges of the church. Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.02,0:29:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's for the mightiest and the \Nstrongest in the church. Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.72,0:29:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notice the writer to the Hebrews says Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.05,0:29:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We." I could drift. Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.15,0:29:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not above drifting Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.57,0:29:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says the writer to the Hebrews. Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.10,0:29:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We must give all the more attention Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.43,0:29:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the things we have heard, Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.20,0:29:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lest we drift away. Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.12,0:29:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 3:12-14 Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.36,0:29:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Take care brothers, Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.39,0:29:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lest there be in any of you Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.94,0:29:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an evil, unbelieving heart, Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.43,0:29:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leading you to fall away Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.38,0:29:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the living God, Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.85,0:29:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but exhort one another every day Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.06,0:29:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as it is called today, Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.32,0:29:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that none of you may be hardened Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.33,0:30:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the deceitfulness of sin. Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.05,0:30:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For we share in Christ Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.64,0:30:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(and I'm going to come back to this - Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.63,0:30:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most neglected two \Nletters in the New Testament) Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.67,0:30:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...if indeed we continue Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.89,0:30:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our original confidence firm to the end." Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.72,0:30:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got a tendency to drift. Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.19,0:30:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see it again in Hebrew 10:23. Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.87,0:30:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a theme throughout this book. Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.57,0:30:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really the reason \Nthe book was written. Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.18,0:30:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 10:23 Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.25,0:30:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let us hold fast the \Nconfession of our hope Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.76,0:30:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without wavering, for He \Nwho promised is faithful." Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.26,0:30:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't just say it will be ok Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.57,0:30:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as you stay near the hope; Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.35,0:30:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as you sort of stay Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.68,0:30:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the vicinity of the hope; Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.34,0:30:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just stick around the hope... Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.21,0:30:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hold on to the hope. Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.93,0:30:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't drift. Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.28,0:31:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't play in the waves. Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.23,0:31:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't play in the current. Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.22,0:31:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it will take you away from God. Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.62,0:31:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only can our souls drift from God - Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.29,0:31:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the first point. Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.46,0:31:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the world encourages such drifting. Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.47,0:31:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world encourages such drifting. Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.49,0:31:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 10:32-34 shows us Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.49,0:31:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the drifting that is encouraged Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.86,0:31:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by persecution. Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.48,0:31:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 10:32 "Recall the former days Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.50,0:31:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when after you were enlightened, Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.25,0:31:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(after you became Christians), Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.73,0:31:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you endured a hard \Nstruggle with sufferings; Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.90,0:31:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes being publicly exposed Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.13,0:31:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reproach and affliction, Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.54,0:31:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes being partners with Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.56,0:31:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those so treated, Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.20,0:31:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you had compassion on those in prison, Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.80,0:31:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you joyfully accepted Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.67,0:31:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the plundering of your property Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.26,0:31:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since you knew that you yourselves Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.15,0:31:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a better possession Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.84,0:31:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and an abiding one." Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.49,0:32:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Getting your stuff stolen \Nbecause you're a Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.24,0:32:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't even like getting \Nour stuff stolen just because. Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.92,0:32:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But who wants to have their stuff stolen Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.96,0:32:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're a Christian? Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.16,0:32:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be exposed to public reproach? Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.90,0:32:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew a young man in Louisville. Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.79,0:32:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went to the orientation Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.20,0:32:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the University of Louisville campus Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.59,0:32:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in his first year in college, Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.48,0:32:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said, ok, we're going to do Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.22,0:32:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some orientation games \Nto get to know everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.75,0:32:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone for gay marriage \Nline up on this wall. Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.62,0:32:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone against it line up on this wall. Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.03,0:32:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he stood there alone. Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.08,0:32:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Public reproach that makes it hard Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.97,0:32:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to drift away. Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.14,0:32:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just think I'd like to \Ndrift over to that wall. Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.30,0:32:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to be outside \Nthe camp anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.07,0:32:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want to drift over to that wall. Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.89,0:33:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some of you are \Ndrifting here this morning. Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.56,0:33:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world has temptations to drift. Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.89,0:33:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world offers persecution \Nto help you drift. Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.98,0:33:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world has false teachings \Nthat will help you drift. Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.02,0:33:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are wolves we heard about yesterday Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.12,0:33:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that break in to the flock Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.85,0:33:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and want to rip her to shreds Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.37,0:33:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and draw her away to false teachings Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.64,0:33:27.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get her to drift away from God. Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.74,0:33:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cross always makes you feel Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.47,0:33:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a loser and God is the winner. Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.33,0:33:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are false teachings Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.92,0:33:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will make you both winners. Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.55,0:33:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to feel as bad. Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.94,0:33:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God doesn't look as good. Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.98,0:33:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's a lot easier to believe. Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.66,0:33:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then of course, Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.69,0:33:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the number one things that destroys Dialogue: 0,0:33:52.86,0:33:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the seed of the Gospel - Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.24,0:33:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the number one things Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.59,0:33:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes us drift from the Gospel Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.30,0:33:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just the cares of this world Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.79,0:34:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the deceitfulness of riches. Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.82,0:34:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just so busy paying the paycheck Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.30,0:34:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taking the kids to soccer Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.13,0:34:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I haven't been in \Nthe Word in a month. Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.23,0:34:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not everything that can \Nkill you looks deadly. Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.24,0:34:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our souls can drift from God. Amen? Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.08,0:34:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world wants you to drift from God. Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.97,0:34:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you do, you will not be saved. Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.29,0:34:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the third truth. Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.46,0:34:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you drift away, Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.58,0:34:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will not go to heaven. Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.62,0:34:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bible is clear Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.24,0:34:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that salvation comes to us in a moment Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.94,0:34:48.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.97,0:34:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but those who believe \Nin the Lord Jesus Christ Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.34,0:34:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,truly keep on believing until they die. Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.32,0:35:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The elect endure until the end. Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.64,0:35:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's go back to that word \N"if" in Hebrews 3:12-14. Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.23,0:35:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hebrews 3:14 Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.80,0:35:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There the writer of the Hebrews says, Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.86,0:35:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"For we have come to share in Christ." Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.15,0:35:21.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what it is to be a Christian. Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.100,0:35:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To share in Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.26,0:35:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To share in His destiny. Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.60,0:35:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to heaven. Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.61,0:35:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's going to heaven. Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.75,0:35:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's got the power of God on Him. Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.41,0:35:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got the power of God on me. Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.44,0:35:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am sharing in Christ... Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.29,0:35:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...if indeed I work really hard." Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.72,0:35:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. The Bible's abundantly clear, Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.58,0:35:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not going to heaven \Nby working really hard. Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.40,0:35:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...but we must hold \Nour original confidence Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.63,0:35:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,firm until the end." Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.23,0:35:49.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Salvation is not to those who Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.72,0:35:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a "religious spasm," \NSpurgeon called them; Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.14,0:35:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where for a moment they held on to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.84,0:35:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's for those who say with Peter, Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.25,0:36:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Where shall we go? Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.80,0:36:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You alone have the words of eternal life." Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.32,0:36:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It goes to people who hold fast, Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.58,0:36:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who won't let go, Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.14,0:36:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are faithful until the end, Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.05,0:36:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who cannot let go of Christ Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.26,0:36:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they keep sensing Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.74,0:36:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their need of grace. Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.74,0:36:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, back up. Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.79,0:36:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that you? Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.49,0:36:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that how you see yourself? Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.90,0:36:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see yourself as \Nsomeone prone to drift? Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.99,0:36:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You. Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.34,0:36:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see the world Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.67,0:36:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a place that tempts you to drift? Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.18,0:36:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you see your own flesh pulling you Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.34,0:36:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards drifting? Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.16,0:36:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know that if you drift away, Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.16,0:36:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will not be saved? Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.14,0:36:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that's the way you see the world, Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.32,0:36:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an overseer is a very precious gift. Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.67,0:36:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone outside of your soul Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.40,0:36:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.10,0:36:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone outside of you watching you. Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.83,0:37:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone while you, who are being Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.74,0:37:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lured away by all the siren songs Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.66,0:37:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the world, who is tied to the mast, Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.24,0:37:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and declaring the Word of God to you, Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.46,0:37:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and calling you to stay in the ship Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.29,0:37:15.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is on its way to heaven. Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.65,0:37:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you look at yourself like that, Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.59,0:37:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then an overseer is a \Nsweet and precious gift. Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.92,0:37:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not invasive. Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.64,0:37:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like get to know me. Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.14,0:37:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask me questions. Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.02,0:37:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me show you what I've got. Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.67,0:37:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things my co-pastor Jeff King Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.84,0:37:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always prays is, Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.92,0:37:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lord, would You just \Nhelp Ryan believe..." Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.56,0:37:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or help whoever believe, Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.84,0:37:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"that there is grace for the real Ryan." Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.58,0:37:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not the Ryan that he thinks he should be; Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.67,0:37:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the Ryan that he wants to be, Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.44,0:37:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but for who he is now. Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.68,0:37:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to know - Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.81,0:37:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pastors will help you know - Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.43,0:37:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is grace for you as you are. Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.30,0:37:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's so glorious. Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.74,0:37:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you look at life like that, Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.68,0:37:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an overseer is not an invader. Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.48,0:38:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An overseer is a shepherd and a friend Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.32,0:38:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.75,0:38:08.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obey your leaders, Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.100,0:38:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for they are watching over your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.67,0:38:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if I could just say one word Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.30,0:38:23.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Garrett and to Mason as brothers, Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.63,0:38:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to Charles and Dick \Nas fathers in the faith, Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.94,0:38:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watch your life Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.82,0:38:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your doctrine carefully. Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.91,0:38:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch your purity. Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.87,0:38:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch that you hold on to truths Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.85,0:38:43.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of heaven and hell and sin Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.77,0:38:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and salvation earnestly. Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.37,0:38:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you lose those things, Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.96,0:38:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you cannot watch over anyone else's soul. Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.88,0:38:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because your eye's not clear Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.99,0:38:58.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see what every soul needs. Dialogue: 0,0:38:58.71,0:39:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The miracle of 40 years of ministry Dialogue: 0,0:39:01.92,0:39:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the miracle of men \Nwho are prone to wander Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.64,0:39:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not wandering. Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.34,0:39:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And not only not wandering, Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.73,0:39:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but watching out that others don't wander. Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.81,0:39:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's incredible. Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.36,0:39:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second reason I would give you Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.60,0:39:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to inflame and encourage your desire Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.57,0:39:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obey and submit to your leaders Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.19,0:39:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is they will have to give an account. Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.56,0:39:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's always hard to obey leadership Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.47,0:39:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we think they're \Ngetting away with something. Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.67,0:39:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's always hard to obey the government Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.62,0:39:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it feels like it's gone rogue. Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.63,0:39:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it feels like it's not accountable - Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.58,0:39:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the courts aren't \Naccountable to anything, Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.34,0:39:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the president's not \Naccountable to anything, Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.23,0:39:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Congress isn't \Naccountable to anything, Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.12,0:39:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it just gets bitter in your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.51,0:39:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want to do what they say. Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.24,0:39:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not going to be held to account. Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.06,0:40:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you feel like the \Nprincipal of your school Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.40,0:40:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the boss at work has no accountability, Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.94,0:40:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they have just gone - Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.60,0:40:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are just doing things Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.96,0:40:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to their own dictates, Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.52,0:40:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it tempts us towards a bitterness of soul. Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.90,0:40:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we're here reminded, Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.58,0:40:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your pastors aren't going to get away Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.99,0:40:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with anything. Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.37,0:40:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going to face a stricter account, Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.21,0:40:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James says. Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.12,0:40:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard a pastor tell a story Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.55,0:40:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of one time at their church, Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.12,0:40:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were starting \Nsome new initiatives; Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.98,0:40:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were doing \Nsome new things, Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.68,0:40:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they went to the congregation \Nto talk to them about it, Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.06,0:40:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I imagine a lot of people\Nreally liked these things, Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.66,0:40:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one person was kind of nervous. Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.20,0:40:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he walked up to the pastor Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.90,0:40:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "you know, \NI don't like what you're doing, Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.79,0:40:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the Bible tells me to trust you, Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.34,0:40:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're going to be held to account Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.02,0:40:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm going to completely \Nsubmit to you and follow you." Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.75,0:40:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know about you, Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.93,0:40:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've been a pastor - I am a pastor. Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.95,0:41:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I hear that, I'm like, \Noh Lord, I want to do it right, now. Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.99,0:41:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to do it right. Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.43,0:41:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you're being given trust. Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.64,0:41:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to freak out \Nyour husband later today? Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.19,0:41:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just tell him I am willing to follow you Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.34,0:41:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and submit to you in anything. Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.91,0:41:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will watch him get more careful, Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.77,0:41:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he's got any ounce \Nof the Spirit of God in him. Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.46,0:41:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same thing is true with leaders. Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.82,0:41:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other thing about this idea Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.65,0:41:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of they're going to be held to account, Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.66,0:41:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it sort of helps you \Nunderstand pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.60,0:41:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes people don't \Nreally understand pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.38,0:41:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was driving in my truck the other day Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.36,0:41:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a friend of ours from our church, Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.33,0:41:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was talking about one \Nof the leaders of the church Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.62,0:41:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kept confronting him about something. Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.36,0:41:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why does he keep doing that? Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.50,0:41:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He just keeps confronting \Nme with this thing. Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.92,0:42:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I've told him \NI'm going to deal with it, Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.24,0:42:02.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I haven't dealt with it, Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.47,0:42:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he keeps confronting me about it. Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.94,0:42:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why does he keep doing this to me? Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.36,0:42:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was quite distressed about this. Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.46,0:42:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.97,0:42:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"have you ever considered Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.37,0:42:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he would probably like to stop Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.39,0:42:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confronting you about it? Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.70,0:42:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it would certainly \Nmake his life easier Dialogue: 0,0:42:20.96,0:42:23.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stop confronting you about it. Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.93,0:42:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that he feels that he cannot Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.83,0:42:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stand before the Lord Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.87,0:42:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless he keeps confronting you about it. Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.87,0:42:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And pretty soon my friend was on the phone Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.03,0:42:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apologizing to the leader in our church. Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.57,0:42:43.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were in the \Nmidst of reconciliation. Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.35,0:42:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I tell you all this because Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.20,0:42:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes people wonder, Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.52,0:42:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why do pastors have to \Nget all up in my business? Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.62,0:42:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can't they just keep their distance? Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.57,0:42:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do they have to push into the details? Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.74,0:42:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's talk about modesty, Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.41,0:42:58.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if we're going to be \Nlike Timothy and Peter Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.69,0:43:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll talk about it in detail. Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.58,0:43:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's talk about your finances. Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.11,0:43:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since we're going to talk about\Nthem in a New Testament way, Dialogue: 0,0:43:05.37,0:43:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that means we're going \Nto talk about them a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.20,0:43:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's talk about secret sins Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.08,0:43:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the motives of the heart. Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.14,0:43:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's press in on these things. Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.75,0:43:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pastors are not doing this - Dialogue: 0,0:43:20.52,0:43:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,godly pastors are not doing this Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.27,0:43:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are arrogant, Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.69,0:43:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,egotistical, pushy, power hungry men. Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.16,0:43:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Accountable pastors are not arrogant, Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.39,0:43:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but humble. Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.98,0:43:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not egotistical, but loving. Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.40,0:43:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not pushy, but obedient. Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.08,0:43:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They may look like what our culture says Dialogue: 0,0:43:41.37,0:43:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is arrogant and egotistical. Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.78,0:43:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyone who's got an opinion Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.15,0:43:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and want you to live by it, Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.52,0:43:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, in our culture, is called: Dialogue: 0,0:43:47.28,0:43:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arrogant. Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.71,0:43:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what if you're a man who's going to Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.69,0:43:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be held accountable for enforcing Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.41,0:43:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God's opinions? Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.69,0:43:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by the way, God doesn't have opinions. Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.33,0:44:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's just got truth. Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.00,0:44:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your pastors are those who are Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.59,0:44:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be held to an account. Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.20,0:44:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last point. Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.46,0:44:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But before you get your hopes up, Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.35,0:44:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a lot of applications Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.81,0:44:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I don't call points, Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.08,0:44:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then I have to say \Nthere's a lot more points. Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.40,0:44:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's a last point, Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.68,0:44:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then there's applications. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.30,0:44:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pastors are worth more to you Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.28,0:44:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when their joy is contagious. Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.21,0:44:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're just worth more. Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.91,0:44:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just get more done. Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.93,0:44:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They will help you more Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.57,0:44:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your spiritual walk Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.88,0:44:47.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they're happy in Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.50,0:44:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,End of story. Dialogue: 0,0:44:48.38,0:44:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just an absolute rule Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.15,0:44:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of life and ministry Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.01,0:44:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if the pastor always Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.75,0:44:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and continually feels \Nlike he'd rather die - Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.65,0:44:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there have been godly men in the Bible Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.74,0:45:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who asked God to kill them, Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.73,0:45:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they would have \Nrather died than go on - Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.88,0:45:06.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the simple fact is Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.13,0:45:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when your pastors are full of joy, Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.07,0:45:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just help you a lot more. Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.65,0:45:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They help you a lot more. Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.94,0:45:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let them do this... Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.14,0:45:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let them do this leading, Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.48,0:45:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this watching over your souls, Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.13,0:45:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this commanding you. Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.54,0:45:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let them do this with joy Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.22,0:45:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not with groaning, Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.53,0:45:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that would be of no advantage to you." Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.31,0:45:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was walking with one of my co-pastors Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.96,0:45:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through Home Depot Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.56,0:45:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe 12 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.31,0:45:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He and his wife were struggling Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.61,0:45:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with infertility. Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.56,0:45:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not making them, at this point, Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.44,0:45:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soft towards the Lord. Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.13,0:45:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was making them hard towards the Lord. Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.18,0:45:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was making them angry at God. Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.72,0:45:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They couldn't understand why they \Nwanted this good thing - children. Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.76,0:45:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bible says, "be \Nfruitful and multiply." Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.23,0:45:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted to be fruitful and multiply. Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.39,0:45:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They couldn't multiply \Nto save their lives. Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.14,0:46:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're walking through Home Depot\Nand he's basically telling me Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.98,0:46:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to leave the faith; Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.14,0:46:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to just go, Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.21,0:46:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy a house on the beach in Florida, Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.54,0:46:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just try to live a normal life Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.18,0:46:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this whole idea of following God Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.11,0:46:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through difficult seasons like this Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.84,0:46:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is doing me in. Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.59,0:46:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now what happens if at that moment, Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.46,0:46:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I go, "me too?" Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.99,0:46:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We may both be on the \Nbeach in Florida right now. Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.29,0:46:33.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The simple fact is Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.100,0:46:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are all going to come \Nto difficult moments Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.19,0:46:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our faith. Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.63,0:46:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of us. Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.84,0:46:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the most precious gifts Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.65,0:46:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God can ever give to us in that moment Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.62,0:46:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a pastor who is full of joy, Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.91,0:46:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who says, no, no, no, no... Dialogue: 0,0:46:48.03,0:46:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At His right hand are \Npleasures forevermore. Dialogue: 0,0:46:52.25,0:46:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, this is hard, Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.88,0:46:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and weeping is going to last for a night, Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.12,0:46:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there is joy in the morning. Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.81,0:47:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's just something about Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.54,0:47:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody else believing it Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.93,0:47:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's like the four friends who Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.25,0:47:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lowered their paralyzed friend Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.94,0:47:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down into Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.05,0:47:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A joyful pastor - Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.31,0:47:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might not have faith right now, Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.98,0:47:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm taking you down through the roof Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.11,0:47:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Jesus to see Him. Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.17,0:47:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you've done everything Dialogue: 0,0:47:21.64,0:47:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to undermine your pastor's ministry - Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.52,0:47:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything to make sure there's a nice, Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.49,0:47:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humbling email each Monday morning... Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.36,0:47:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the board of deacons Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.01,0:47:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the small town church. Dialogue: 0,0:47:31.27,0:47:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their motto was: Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.97,0:47:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lord, You keep them humble, Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.30,0:47:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll keep them poor." Dialogue: 0,0:47:39.93,0:47:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you've done everything to undermine him Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.86,0:47:44.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hurt him, Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.55,0:47:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then all of a sudden \Nyou're hospitalized, Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.47,0:47:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the man who walks in to comfort you Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.60,0:47:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has not got any comfort to bring, Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.50,0:47:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've hurt your own soul. Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.58,0:47:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many people have done that Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.05,0:48:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pastors in the name \Nof biblical faithfulness. Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.86,0:48:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were just trying to help the pastor Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.13,0:48:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be biblically faithful Dialogue: 0,0:48:05.68,0:48:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by criticizing his every move Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.32,0:48:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and making him of no advantage to them. Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.45,0:48:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand, Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.80,0:48:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you stoke the fires in your pastor; Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.84,0:48:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you encourage your pastor; Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.08,0:48:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you generally obey your pastor; Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.26,0:48:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and follow along in his lead, Dialogue: 0,0:48:27.76,0:48:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you seek to obey the Word of God Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.63,0:48:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he preaches and you delight in it, Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.50,0:48:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you rejoice with him Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.75,0:48:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on how God is using him, Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.12,0:48:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how the Spirit is helping the church. Dialogue: 0,0:48:36.11,0:48:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do that, and then \Nyou come into crisis, Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.32,0:48:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he will be right there Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.96,0:48:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,full of joy, Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.87,0:48:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ready to help you out; Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.04,0:48:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ready to encourage you. Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.84,0:48:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, here's a few applications. Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.18,0:48:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's a few applications, Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.84,0:48:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I really am done. Dialogue: 0,0:48:58.72,0:49:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these range from \Nthe incredibly practical Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.84,0:49:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the deeply theological. Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.51,0:49:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Write notes Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.36,0:49:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give real substantive encouragements Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.77,0:49:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to your pastor, Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.95,0:49:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and "good message" doesn't count. Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.10,0:49:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok? Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.52,0:49:24.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Good message" means Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.83,0:49:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot think a coherent sentence Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.86,0:49:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that amounts to more than two words Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.07,0:49:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what you just said. Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.81,0:49:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not encouraging. Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.25,0:49:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always tell people, Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.35,0:49:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"what was it that helped you?" Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.37,0:49:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.74,0:49:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm glad that was helpful for you. Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.37,0:49:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've just had someone pour out Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.58,0:49:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the studied Word of God onto your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.88,0:49:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can sit down for five seconds Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.73,0:50:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and write an email that relates Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.39,0:50:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that was helpful. Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.09,0:50:08.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I tell you what, any pastor - Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.98,0:50:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and don't ask twenty questions, Dialogue: 0,0:50:11.15,0:50:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if all of you \Nask twenty questions: Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.60,0:50:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"here's something helpful \Nand here's 20 questions," Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.98,0:50:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles and Dick will die this Monday. Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.89,0:50:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will happen just like that. Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.40,0:50:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Boom. Oh, no, I preached, \Nso I'll die on Monday. Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.98,0:50:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But a general attitude of I'm going to say Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.42,0:50:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something substantive to let them know Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.10,0:50:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was gleaning from the Word. Dialogue: 0,0:50:30.39,0:50:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of you say, Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.39,0:50:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, that will make them proud. Dialogue: 0,0:50:32.93,0:50:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does not make you proud. Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.40,0:50:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Listen, if you're a good pastor, Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.04,0:50:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not preaching your own ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.16,0:50:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when someone comes to you Dialogue: 0,0:50:39.64,0:50:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and says, hey, that \Nidea that wasn't yours, Dialogue: 0,0:50:41.97,0:50:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was really helpful to you. Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.38,0:50:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not making you proud. Dialogue: 0,0:50:44.83,0:50:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's making you rejoice that they love Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.29,0:50:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God's Word. Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.39,0:50:54.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second, and I have not talked to any Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.49,0:50:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single pastor about this. Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.07,0:50:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one has paid me to do this. Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.21,0:51:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pay your pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.85,0:51:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pay them. Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.80,0:51:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Double honor in 1 Timothy 5 Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.47,0:51:06.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a financial term Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.94,0:51:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to care for your pastors. Dialogue: 0,0:51:08.21,0:51:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They won't all be paid evenly. Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.75,0:51:11.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's all kinds of different factors. Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.74,0:51:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But make sure they are cared for. Dialogue: 0,0:51:14.68,0:51:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that you all find it easy Dialogue: 0,0:51:16.22,0:51:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep your joy when you're broke, Dialogue: 0,0:51:17.97,0:51:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but pastors are different. Dialogue: 0,0:51:21.92,0:51:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, there is a sense in which Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.58,0:51:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people of God should be not Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.30,0:51:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reviewing a pastor's salary every 25 years Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.34,0:51:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether he needs it or not. Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.71,0:51:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there should be a \Nregular, constant care Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.25,0:51:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to provide for God's man. Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.61,0:51:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I think I'm going to \Nspend a little more time Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.10,0:51:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this next point. Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.34,0:51:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had it in my notes, Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.88,0:51:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but honestly, my wife wrote this point Dialogue: 0,0:51:50.30,0:51:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the songs this morning. Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.53,0:51:54.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that men only should preach, Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.57,0:51:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I believe the things my wife whispers Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.69,0:51:59.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into my ear during some services Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.03,0:52:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are some of the most spiritual \Nthings I've ever heard. Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.41,0:52:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I'll preach them to you right now. Dialogue: 0,0:52:07.73,0:52:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are men. Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.92,0:52:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the most significant things Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.80,0:52:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can do - and I'm talking to Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.24,0:52:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children here, Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.40,0:52:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking to those who \Nhave been here 40 years, Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.81,0:52:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who have been here 10 years - Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.54,0:52:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the most significant \Nthings you can do with your pastor Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.29,0:52:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to realize that they are just a person; Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.43,0:52:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are not cut from another cloth Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.14,0:52:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of humanity, Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.27,0:52:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they are a finite, limited person. Dialogue: 0,0:52:42.56,0:52:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that has so many implications, Dialogue: 0,0:52:46.36,0:52:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's ridiculous. Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.40,0:52:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means that even if \Nthey could be with you Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.87,0:52:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time every time you needed them, Dialogue: 0,0:52:55.67,0:52:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they couldn't satisfy your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.12,0:53:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It would not work. Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.74,0:53:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if they could be there Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.04,0:53:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much as you wanted Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.77,0:53:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as often as you wanted, Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.45,0:53:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once they showed up that often, Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.64,0:53:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would turn out to be disappointing, Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.06,0:53:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are only people. Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.88,0:53:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, it also means they can't Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.06,0:53:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show up all the time every time Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.64,0:53:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be with everyone, Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.28,0:53:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are people. Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.89,0:53:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this doesn't make \Nthem different than Jesus, Dialogue: 0,0:53:29.24,0:53:32.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this makes them like Jesus, Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.57,0:53:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who would get ministry opportunities Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.55,0:53:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and would leave, Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.06,0:53:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because He simply could not meet Dialogue: 0,0:53:40.07,0:53:43.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the needs - that's a \Nstunning thing to say, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:53:43.30,0:53:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could not meet all the needs? Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.36,0:53:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At one level, that's true. Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.77,0:53:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was a finite man. Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.03,0:53:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He needed sleep. Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.42,0:53:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He needed a break. Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.49,0:53:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He needed to eat. Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.02,0:53:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.89,0:54:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus ministered in one very limited Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.58,0:54:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,geographic area, and He moved Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.04,0:54:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from town to town Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.39,0:54:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did not spend infinite time, Dialogue: 0,0:54:07.28,0:54:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though there would have been many Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.02,0:54:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who would have wished He'd stayed Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.70,0:54:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one more day. Dialogue: 0,0:54:14.03,0:54:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was limited in that way. Dialogue: 0,0:54:18.18,0:54:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your pastors are limited in gifts. Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.96,0:54:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I basically find that the \Nlonger I'm in ministry, Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.57,0:54:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my tenure in ministry \Nis the joyful discovery Dialogue: 0,0:54:27.03,0:54:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how many things I'm bad at. Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.39,0:54:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Preaching - some gifts. Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.34,0:54:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Administration - no gifts. Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.39,0:54:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Counseling - moderate gifts. Dialogue: 0,0:54:36.82,0:54:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gifts of service - I hope \NI have a servant's heart. Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.65,0:54:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not particularly good at it. Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.67,0:54:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's just all kinds of things Dialogue: 0,0:54:43.60,0:54:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I am bad at. Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.50,0:54:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should expect your pastors Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.10,0:54:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to not only be not \Nexcellent at everything, Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.27,0:54:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually bad at some things. Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.30,0:54:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it will be good for you Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.96,0:55:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to recognize their sanctified badness Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.24,0:55:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at many, many things, Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.66,0:55:04.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you were not meant Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.23,0:55:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be built up by a pastor. Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.98,0:55:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were meant to be built up by a body. Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.65,0:55:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A body that ministers the presence Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.01,0:55:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.96,0:55:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, if only my pastor was as hospitable Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.54,0:55:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as so-and-so. Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.68,0:55:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if only my pastor made as emotional Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.82,0:55:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connections like so-and-so. Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.39,0:55:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if only my pastor could be Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.87,0:55:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a mentor like so-and-so. Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.25,0:55:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if only my pastor could be there Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.13,0:55:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like so-and-so. Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.10,0:55:29.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if only my pastor could duck down Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.87,0:55:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a phone booth and come up Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.27,0:55:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with an "S" on his chest Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.70,0:55:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fly off into the sunset Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.38,0:55:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with kryptonite in his hand. Dialogue: 0,0:55:39.26,0:55:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not happening. Dialogue: 0,0:55:43.09,0:55:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the expectation actually diminishes Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.07,0:55:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the effectiveness of your pastor. Dialogue: 0,0:55:50.96,0:55:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You try living with the expectation Dialogue: 0,0:55:53.72,0:55:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of super humanness for five minutes, Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.76,0:56:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten minutes, Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.49,0:56:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten years, Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.17,0:56:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twenty years, Dialogue: 0,0:56:06.27,0:56:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thirty years, Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.36,0:56:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forty years. Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.21,0:56:16.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I preached at a women's ministry event Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.13,0:56:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Friday night before I came, Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.64,0:56:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said one of the traps I feel - Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.49,0:56:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's always two pushes to me: Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.41,0:56:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got to grow. We've got to grow. Dialogue: 0,0:56:22.98,0:56:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not just like a \Nchurch growth grow, Dialogue: 0,0:56:24.82,0:56:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's we want to see the lost saved; Dialogue: 0,0:56:26.55,0:56:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to grow. Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.80,0:56:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you've got, Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.83,0:56:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're getting big, \Nand if you get real big Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.82,0:56:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't disciple people. Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.30,0:56:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the pastor's kind \Nof in the middle like, Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.32,0:56:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so what you're saying is \Nit's failure either way. Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.16,0:56:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we grow, we get big. Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.55,0:56:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what happens when you grow. Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.95,0:56:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you get big, you have less time. Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.57,0:56:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what happens when you grow. Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.03,0:56:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's no way to \Nkeep it perfectly balanced. Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.55,0:56:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They couldn't keep it perfectly balanced Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.66,0:56:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the Holy Spirit decided\Nthey would boost their church Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.44,0:57:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from 120 to 3,000 on the first day. Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.48,0:57:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see the people going, Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.02,0:57:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember when we \Ngot more time with Peter. Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.39,0:57:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'd be there for the all \Nnight prayer meetings. Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.23,0:57:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now where is he? Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.33,0:57:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Preaching all over. Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.18,0:57:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of the day, Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.95,0:57:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your pastors will 100%, I guarantee it, Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.61,0:57:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can take it to the bank, Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.40,0:57:34.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappoint you. Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.75,0:57:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not talking vague, Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.11,0:57:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abstract disappoint you; Dialogue: 0,0:57:37.33,0:57:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking like it-will-\Nhurt disappoint you. Dialogue: 0,0:57:42.73,0:57:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's because all pastors can do Dialogue: 0,0:57:46.72,0:57:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they're doing their job well Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.28,0:57:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to point you to the One Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.76,0:57:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who will never disappoint you. Dialogue: 0,0:57:54.01,0:57:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul helped the churches he pastored Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.80,0:57:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rely on God Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.94,0:57:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by preaching in the power of the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.90,0:58:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so their trust would not be in man, Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.27,0:58:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the power of God, Dialogue: 0,0:58:04.07,0:58:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because at the end of the day, Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.53,0:58:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's only One Man who can sustain Dialogue: 0,0:58:08.21,0:58:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the expectations \Nof all of His children, Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.04,0:58:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the man Christ Jesus Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.01,0:58:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who died on the cross \Nto satisfy His children Dialogue: 0,0:58:16.71,0:58:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with living water and living bread, Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.18,0:58:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who can feed their souls for eternity. Dialogue: 0,0:58:21.45,0:58:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He can be there every moment Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.16,0:58:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of every day, Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.24,0:58:26.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He can be infinitely interesting Dialogue: 0,0:58:26.33,0:58:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and glorious every minute of every day Dialogue: 0,0:58:29.06,0:58:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now enthroned in Heaven, Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.14,0:58:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He needs no sleep, Dialogue: 0,0:58:32.60,0:58:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He needs no rest, Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.36,0:58:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He lives to make intercession Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.55,0:58:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for His people. Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.01,0:58:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is the Shepherd of the sheep. Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.48,0:58:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you destroy your pastor's joy, Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.42,0:58:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he won't even be able to point you Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.06,0:58:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that great Shepherd. Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.19,0:58:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, it's a great thing to honor Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.99,0:58:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles and Dick Dialogue: 0,0:58:59.69,0:59:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Garrett and Mason, Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.63,0:59:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whoever else God would make you. Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.77,0:59:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also probably a really good thing Dialogue: 0,0:59:06.84,0:59:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now to acknowledge \Nlegitimate disappointments Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.29,0:59:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have accumulated over 40 years. Dialogue: 0,0:59:18.61,0:59:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to apply those beautiful words Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.59,0:59:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Ephesians that say that we are to be Dialogue: 0,0:59:23.25,0:59:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forgiving one another Dialogue: 0,0:59:25.86,0:59:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even as God in Christ forgave us. Dialogue: 0,0:59:30.67,0:59:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To apply those beautiful words of Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.29,0:59:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ephesians 4:1 that says Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.92,0:59:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are to bear \Nwith one another in love. Dialogue: 0,0:59:37.34,0:59:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does that mean?\NThat means that other Christians Dialogue: 0,0:59:39.65,0:59:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the kind of people \Nyou have to bear with. Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.33,0:59:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people get into their devotions; Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.30,0:59:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they pray themselves up;\Nthey come up full of the Spirit, Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.64,0:59:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they actually rub you the wrong way. Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.13,0:59:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like when they're at their best, Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.71,0:59:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they rub you the wrong way. Dialogue: 0,0:59:56.61,0:59:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you need to be filled with the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.92,1:00:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bear with them in love. Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.40,1:00:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now is probably a good time Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.32,1:00:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a forty year mark to say, ok, Dialogue: 0,1:00:06.26,1:00:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what kind of baggage is there Dialogue: 0,1:00:08.13,1:00:10.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that might really undermine the future Dialogue: 0,1:00:10.14,1:00:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Lake Road? Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.36,1:00:13.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's there? Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.99,1:00:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can I just lay that before the Lord Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.94,1:00:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ask for His forgiveness for me; Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.98,1:00:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember how He bears with me; Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.57,1:00:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember His kindness towards me, Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.40,1:00:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then to pray for yourself Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.04,1:00:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you'd be able to make Dialogue: 0,1:00:32.55,1:00:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these men's ministry a joy; Dialogue: 0,1:00:35.98,1:00:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to care for them, Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.04,1:00:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to spur them on for the next five, Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.16,1:00:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten, fifteen years. Dialogue: 0,1:00:41.63,1:00:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then to pray to God Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.50,1:00:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they would be Dialogue: 0,1:00:46.01,1:00:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all that God would have them to be. Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.10,1:00:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There may be legitimate disappointments, Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.02,1:00:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can pray for the growth in grace Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.12,1:00:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all of those who \Nare ministering to you. Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.86,1:00:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my goal in all of this Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.43,1:01:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you would say, Dialogue: 0,1:01:00.54,1:01:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, I have a positive heart to obey Dialogue: 0,1:01:03.03,1:01:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these men and I want to make their job Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.90,1:01:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a joy so that they will be Dialogue: 0,1:01:08.84,1:01:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of great and eternal advantage to me. Dialogue: 0,1:01:15.08,1:01:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's pray. Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.79,1:01:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Father, You alone can sustain the church. Dialogue: 0,1:01:47.45,1:01:48.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You alone by Your Word are able Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.100,1:01:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build the church up. Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.76,1:01:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lord God, You alone are able Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.52,1:01:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep the rifts and the difficulties Dialogue: 0,1:01:58.42,1:02:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the troubles and the insufficiencies Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.36,1:02:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and inadequacies Dialogue: 0,1:02:03.17,1:02:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sins that we \Nbring into the church - Dialogue: 0,1:02:05.28,1:02:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You alone are able to keep them at bay, Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.17,1:02:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cover them by Your blood, Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.01,1:02:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and build up the body of Christ. Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.40,1:02:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we ask You to come today, Lord. Dialogue: 0,1:02:19.09,1:02:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We ask You, Lord, to fill Charles and Dick Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.27,1:02:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Garrett and Mason afresh Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.33,1:02:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the power of the Holy Spirit Dialogue: 0,1:02:28.01,1:02:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for another season of ministry. Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.17,1:02:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We ask You, Lord, to fill the congregation Dialogue: 0,1:02:33.34,1:02:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a spirit of love, joy, forgiveness, Dialogue: 0,1:02:37.01,1:02:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patience, bearing with \None another in love, Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.37,1:02:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Spirit's power for their ministry Dialogue: 0,1:02:43.92,1:02:48.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one to another and to their pastors. Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.19,1:02:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We ask You, Lord, that hordes of people Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.41,1:02:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Kirksville would be \Nsaved this coming year. Dialogue: 0,1:02:53.70,1:02:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That those who don't know \NYou would be saved. Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.98,1:02:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That more missionaries would be Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.58,1:03:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sent out from here. Dialogue: 0,1:03:00.63,1:03:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we want to ask You, Lord, Dialogue: 0,1:03:02.52,1:03:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that You would get all the glory, Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.80,1:03:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first for being the great \NShepherd of the sheep, Dialogue: 0,1:03:11.28,1:03:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then for equipping Charles and Dick Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.12,1:03:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 40 years along with \Ntheir precious wives Dialogue: 0,1:03:18.37,1:03:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to shepherd the sheep. Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.94,1:03:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to pray finally Dialogue: 0,1:03:23.19,1:03:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Garrett and Mason, Lord God, Dialogue: 0,1:03:24.99,1:03:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that You would give them grace Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.25,1:03:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be good shepherds; Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.75,1:03:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be like Timothy's \Nwho learn from Paul's. Dialogue: 0,1:03:34.58,1:03:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that Father, You would just secure Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.62,1:03:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lake Road in the arms of good, godly men Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.70,1:03:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for yet another generation Dialogue: 0,1:03:43.96,1:03:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hear Your praise, Dialogue: 0,1:03:46.37,1:03:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to see Your glory. Dialogue: 0,1:03:48.77,1:03:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pray this in Jesus' name, Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.32,1:03:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Amen.