My name is Kiran, I am the chair of In Our Own Words and a health psychologist by background. And I am Rachel and I have recently come on board with In Our Own words and I am newly qualified as a clinical psychologist It’s nice to meet you all by the way. So just to explain what In Our Own Words is. It is a wiki essentially, to build up a knowledge resource around distress, suffering, pain fatigue, those kind of symptoms or experiences people might struggle with from ethnic minorities as they may describe them in everyday terms. So moving away from clinical disorders and moving away from looking at the Western equivalents of anxiety and depression, but really looking at how people describe it in an everyday sense in order to try and help people to get earlier access to support when they need it from psychological services. And as part of that we are building a resource section for different communities under different languages where we link to papers- sorry, not papers-research done by different researchers, you know, trainee psychologists, early career psychologists, with ethnic minorities around some of their sense-making when they have mental and physical health difficulties, particularly work that might not have been published before. [Rachel] This is often called a preprint [Kiran] That's it, yeah [Rachel] When I was possibly thinking about publishing my thesis so yeah it's basically a term in academic publishing which is like a version of your scientific paper that precedes a formal peer review and actually it doesn't have to, a formal peer review doesn't have to follow on. And you can just complete a dissertation or a piece of work, or a even a service evaluation for example, and you can- there's a number of places you can upload them. Yeah and you, and you make the pre-print available, how it's described [the process]. People can view hat, it's searchable, people can download it. And yeah, others go on to publish it. Yep. And One of the nice things about it is you can actually see how many people download your paper and you can create citable links of your research paper from there. Erm so we'll talk a bit about who might actually benefit from this, and talk about some of the caveats, like who might not be so-who might want to think about it before they share their pre- prints with us. And so, this is possibly going to appeal more to people who train and go in to practicing, erm psychology in applied settings, clinical settings so for example, erm clinical psychologists, counselling psychologists and perhaps some practitioner health psychologists, you know, amongst some others. The reason why we say that is that there's less pressure to publish in academic outlets when you are oriented towards those services because-and that-that is an advantage because, some journals-a number of journals don't really accept pre-prints or you know reviewers may comment that this-that this has been a pre print else- where and that can actually impede chances of success at those journals. On the other hand some open access journals that tend to be, you know, higher impact or you know, harder to get in to as well, they don’t mind having-accepting pre-prints, in fact they may encourage it. Erm so that-We would ask you to consider that, you know before uploading your work on a pre print server because we don’t want to stop you from doing that if that's-if publishing academically, if that's what you want to do first. That said, you know, we know it can be difficult and a lot of really good work never gets out there in academic journals and we want to help people-make that accessible, and you know get the exposure and the credit they deserve for doing that work. And we know that those working with ethnic minorities can sometimes find it really difficult to get their work published in an academic outlet but we really need to hear about that stuff [their research]. [inaudible] With regards to how it works on our Wiki, as I say we have a resources section under each language and the idea is people can click through and visit and download it and have a look. The first thing they see is, like you know a page of terms and recordings of phrases but sometimes people might actually want to understand a particular community more and understand how they make sense of you know, struggle, physical and emotional struggle, and their-you know when their health needs aren’t being quite met, so they can either get more support, you know or they can-or if they are a professional, figure out how to support a member of the community better. Obviously we do welcome work from any psychologist that has worked with an ethnic minority but we are particularly welcoming ethnic minority psychologists, as that is part of our ethos, it's our focus to try and help get ethnic minority psychologists to get their work recognised to counteract some of the barriers that we can sometimes face as ethnic minorities [Kiran] So yeah with regards- [Rachel] Can I give an example? [Kiran] Oh go on- [Rachel] An example might be-you might be a-a practicing health psychologist Perhaps you are a few years down the line after study, but actually like you had a really incredible dissertation or thesis that was on, for example the experiences of barriers to help in the South Asian community in relation to eating disorders That-and say it was a qualitative piece and you interviewed like 8 people and it's-you might not have had the support, the time, the energy to- perhaps or the interest to go down that peer review process, cos it is - as Kiran said there are any barriers for lots of different reasons, perhaps then a preprint could be really useful cos that would mean that information-that knowledge can be picked up and used by practitioners, just by the public, by people of the South Asian community specifically and that is exactly the sort of thing we would absolutely love in the resources section and we can actually put that in-under the certain languages that that would be-that that would be relevant to, so yeah that's just an example. [Kiran] Yeah thank you, that's always helpful for people to have that, you know, cos it can seem a bit abstract. So when we say we link to it, a popular repository that we talk about--that accepts a lot of preprints is called PsyArXiv. We'll go over how to upload things onto PsyArXiv and one of the lovely things about that is that you can create a permanent link which is easy to publish to-well link to, also should you then later on publish it, you can create a link to the final published version-and you can even choose whether to make it private or public, update the version if you choose to re-write it a little bit. You have all these options And one of these things that we hope that could happen is if we-this site builds and you know becomes a real key -leading resource amongst professionals and service user groups, we could end up attracting some editors who would love to publish your work, who may approach you as a result. So, that's-kind of the other hope really by doing it this way, and of course to make sure we credit people appropriately for the work that they do. So what we do particularly welcome is-in terms of the types of research we-we are looking for original empirical research studies, qualitative, indepth studies with an ethnic minority participant group and sometimes quantitative measures, to see where someone might be struggling with their physical or mental health as that can help [to] identify people in clinical practice who might need some support, so those are the kind of the studies that we're looking for. So if that you know sounds like it might be of relevance to you-I'm just gonna check that I haven't missed anything [laughs]- if that sounds like it could be something you would be interested in, and you know you'd like to hear more and see more of our projects then, you know you're more than welcome and we'd love to hear from you. Thank you-thank you very much for your attention and we look forward to speaking to you soon.