[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.04,0:00:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Kiran, I am the chair of In Our\NOwn Words Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.07,0:00:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a health psychologist by background. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.00,0:00:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I am Rachel and I have recently come\Non board with In Our Own words and I am Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.97,0:00:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,newly qualified as a clinical psychologist Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.24,0:00:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s nice to meet you all by the way. Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.64,0:00:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So just to explain what In Our Own Words\Nis. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.16,0:00:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a wiki essentially, to Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.22,0:00:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build up a knowledge resource around \Ndistress, suffering, pain fatigue, those Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.36,0:00:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of symptoms or experiences people\Nmight struggle with from ethnic minorities Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.47,0:01:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they may describe them in everyday\Nterms. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.25,0:01:08.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So moving away from clinical disorders Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.04,0:01:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and moving away from looking at the\NWestern equivalents of anxiety and Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.54,0:01:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depression, but really looking at how\Npeople describe it in an everyday sense Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.78,0:01:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to try and help people to get\Nearlier access to support Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.22,0:01:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they need it from psychological\Nservices. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.41,0:01:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as part of that we are building a\Nresource section Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.74,0:01:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for different communities under different Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.99,0:01:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,languages where we link to papers- sorry, Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.92,0:01:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not papers-research done by different Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.09,0:01:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,researchers, you know, trainee Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.91,0:01:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychologists, early career psychologists, Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.41,0:01:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with ethnic minorities around Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.87,0:02:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of their sense-making when they have\Nmental and physical health difficulties, Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.04,0:02:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly work that might not have been Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.24,0:02:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published before. Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.84,0:02:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Rachel] This is often called a preprint Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.03,0:02:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Kiran] That's it, yeah Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.22,0:02:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Rachel] When I was possibly thinking\Nabout publishing my thesis Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.66,0:02:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so yeah it's basically a term in academic\Npublishing which is like a version of Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.16,0:02:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your scientific paper that precedes a\Nformal peer review and actually Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.32,0:02:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't have to, a formal peer review Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.68,0:02:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't have to follow on. And you can Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.12,0:02:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just complete a dissertation\Nor a piece of work, or a even a service Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.40,0:02:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evaluation for example, and you can- Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.24,0:02:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a number of places you can upload Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.97,0:02:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them. Yeah and you, and you make Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.56,0:02:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pre-print available, how it's Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.57,0:02:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,described [the process]. People can view\Nhat, it's searchable, people can download Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.91,0:03:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it. And yeah, others go on to publish it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.84,0:03:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yep. And One of the nice things about it Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.39,0:03:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is you can actually see how many people Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.89,0:03:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,download your paper and you can create Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.65,0:03:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,citable links of your research paper from Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.51,0:03:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there. Erm so we'll talk a bit about who Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.94,0:03:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might actually benefit from this, and talk Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.55,0:03:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about some of the caveats, like who Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.51,0:03:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might not be so-who might want to think Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.76,0:03:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about it before they share their pre- Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.85,0:03:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prints with us. And so, this is possibly Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.90,0:03:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to appeal more to people who train Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.37,0:03:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and go in to practicing, erm psychology in Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.79,0:03:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applied settings, clinical settings so for Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.99,0:03:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, erm clinical psychologists, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.10,0:04:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,counselling psychologists and perhaps some Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.45,0:04:02.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practitioner health psychologists, you Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.100,0:04:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, amongst some others. The Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.29,0:04:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reason why we say that is that there's Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.08,0:04:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less pressure to publish in academic Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.86,0:04:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outlets when you are oriented towards Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.09,0:04:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those services because-and that-that is an Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.09,0:04:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advantage because, some journals-a number Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.49,0:04:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of journals don't really accept pre-prints Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.26,0:04:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you know reviewers may comment that Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.80,0:04:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this-that this has been a pre print else- Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.52,0:04:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where and that can actually impede chances Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.95,0:04:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of success at those journals. On the Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.96,0:04:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other hand some open access journals that Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.61,0:04:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tend to be, you know, higher impact or Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.71,0:04:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, harder to get in to as well, Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.01,0:04:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don’t mind having-accepting Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.31,0:05:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pre-prints, in fact they may Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.19,0:05:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encourage it. Erm so that-We would ask you Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.92,0:05:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to consider that, you know before Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.25,0:05:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uploading your work on a pre print Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.92,0:05:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,server because we don’t want to stop you\Nfrom doing that Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.98,0:05:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that's-if publishing academically, if Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.37,0:05:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what you want to do first. That Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.49,0:05:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said, you know, we know it can be Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.25,0:05:29.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult and a lot of really good work Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.87,0:05:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never gets out there in academic journals Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.52,0:05:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we want to help people-make that Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.80,0:05:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessible, and you know get the exposure Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.06,0:05:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the credit they deserve for doing that Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.67,0:05:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work. And we know that those working with Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.60,0:05:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ethnic minorities can sometimes find it Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.53,0:05:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really difficult to get their work Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.76,0:05:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published in an academic outlet but Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.38,0:06:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we really need to hear about that stuff Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.28,0:06:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[their research]. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.33,0:06:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[inaudible] Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.99,0:06:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With regards to how it works on our Wiki, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.77,0:06:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I say we have a resources section under Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.97,0:06:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each language and the idea is people can Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.79,0:06:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,click through and visit and download it Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.08,0:06:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have a look. The first thing they Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.10,0:06:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see is, like you know a page of terms and Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.80,0:06:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recordings of phrases but Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.22,0:06:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes people might actually want to Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.68,0:06:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand a particular community more Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.33,0:06:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and understand how they make sense of Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.73,0:06:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, struggle, physical and Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.24,0:06:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotional struggle, and their-you know Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.08,0:06:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when their health needs aren’t being Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.65,0:06:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite met, so they can either get Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.56,0:06:49.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more support, you know or they can-or if Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.10,0:06:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are a professional, figure out how Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.89,0:06:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support a member of the community Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.69,0:07:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better. Obviously we do welcome work Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.22,0:07:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from any psychologist that has worked with Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.71,0:07:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an ethnic minority but we are particularly Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.87,0:07:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,welcoming ethnic minority psychologists, Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.64,0:07:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as that is part of our ethos, it's our Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.30,0:07:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focus to try and help get ethnic minority Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.96,0:07:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychologists to get their work recognised Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.47,0:07:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to counteract some of the barriers that Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.50,0:07:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can sometimes face as ethnic minorities Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.46,0:07:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Kiran] So yeah with regards- Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.28,0:07:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Rachel] Can I give an example? Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.02,0:07:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Kiran] Oh go on- Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.93,0:07:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Rachel] An example might be-you Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.79,0:07:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be a-a practicing health \Npsychologist Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.32,0:07:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps you are a few years down the line Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.78,0:07:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after study, but actually like you had Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.13,0:07:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a really incredible dissertation or thesis Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.71,0:07:51.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was on, for example the experiences Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.75,0:07:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of barriers to help in the South Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.94,0:07:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asian community in relation to eating\Ndisorders Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.88,0:08:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That-and say it was a qualitative piece Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.53,0:08:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you interviewed like 8 people Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.79,0:08:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's-you might not have had Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.44,0:08:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the support, the time, the energy to- Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.03,0:08:14.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps or the interest to go down Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.59,0:08:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that peer review process, cos it is - as Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.94,0:08:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kiran said there are any barriers for Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.14,0:08:22.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of different reasons, perhaps then Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.38,0:08:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a preprint could be really useful cos that Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.45,0:08:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would mean that information-that knowledge Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.82,0:08:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be picked up and used by \Npractitioners, just by the public, by Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.86,0:08:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people of the South Asian community\Nspecifically and that is exactly the Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.51,0:08:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of thing we would absolutely love in Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.09,0:08:42.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the resources section and we can Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.29,0:08:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually put that in-under the certain Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.11,0:08:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,languages that that would be-that that Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.02,0:08:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be relevant to, so yeah that's just\Nan example. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.28,0:08:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Kiran] Yeah thank you, that's always Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.91,0:08:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helpful for people to have that, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.98,0:09:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cos it can seem a bit abstract. Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.07,0:09:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we say we link to it, a popular Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.14,0:09:10.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repository that we talk about--that \Naccepts a lot of preprints is called Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.08,0:09:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PsyArXiv. We'll go over how to upload Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.80,0:09:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things onto PsyArXiv and one of the Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.48,0:09:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lovely things about that is that you can Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.77,0:09:23.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create a permanent link which is easy to Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.15,0:09:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,publish to-well link to, also should you Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.54,0:09:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then later on publish it, you can create a Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.32,0:09:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,link to the final published version-and Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.37,0:09:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can even choose whether to make it Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.75,0:09:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,private or public, update the version Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.71,0:09:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you choose to re-write it a little bit.\NYou have all these options Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.60,0:09:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of these things that we hope Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.99,0:09:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that could happen is if we-this site Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.53,0:09:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,builds and you know becomes a real key Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.91,0:09:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-leading resource amongst professionals Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.45,0:09:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and service user groups, we could end up Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.68,0:10:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attracting some editors who would love to Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.05,0:10:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,publish your work, who may approach you Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.68,0:10:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a result. So, that's-kind of the other Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.52,0:10:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope really by doing it this way, and of Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.33,0:10:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course to make sure we credit people Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.73,0:10:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appropriately for the work that they do. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.99,0:10:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what we do particularly welcome Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.74,0:10:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is-in terms of the types of research Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.45,0:10:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we-we are looking for original empirical Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.03,0:10:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,research studies, qualitative, indepth Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.31,0:10:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studies with an ethnic minority Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.90,0:10:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,participant group and sometimes Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.59,0:10:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quantitative measures, to see where Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.04,0:10:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone might be struggling with their Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.32,0:10:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physical or mental health as that can help Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.52,0:10:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[to] identify people in clinical practice Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.76,0:10:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who might need some support, so those are Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.84,0:10:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of the studies that we're Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.69,0:11:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for. So if that you know sounds Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.18,0:11:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like it might be of relevance to you-I'm Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.45,0:11:06.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just gonna check that I haven't missed Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.74,0:11:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything [laughs]- if that sounds like Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.86,0:11:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it could be something you would Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.85,0:11:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be interested in, and you know Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.02,0:11:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'd like to hear more and see more of Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.21,0:11:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our projects then, you know you're more Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.70,0:11:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than welcome and we'd love to hear Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.53,0:11:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.55,0:11:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you-thank you very much for your Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.45,0:11:30.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention and we look forward to speaking Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.10,0:11:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to you soon.