0:00:16.358,0:00:18.303 This is the ocean as I used to know it. 0:00:19.225,0:00:23.438 And I find that since I've been[br]in the Gulf a couple of times, 0:00:23.462,0:00:27.962 I really kind of am traumatized[br]because whenever I look at the ocean now, 0:00:27.986,0:00:30.447 no matter where I am, 0:00:30.471,0:00:34.376 even where I know[br]that none of the oil has gone, 0:00:34.400,0:00:36.376 I sort of see slicks, 0:00:36.400,0:00:40.647 and I'm finding that I'm very much[br]haunted by it. 0:00:42.066,0:00:44.262 But what I want to talk to you about today 0:00:44.286,0:00:47.816 is a lot of things that try[br]to put all of this in context, 0:00:47.840,0:00:53.814 not just about the oil eruption,[br]but what it means and why it has happened. 0:00:53.838,0:00:55.473 First, just a little bit about me. 0:00:55.497,0:00:58.009 I'm basically just a guy[br]that likes to go fishing 0:00:58.033,0:01:00.989 ever since I was a little kid,[br]and because I did, 0:01:01.013,0:01:03.080 I wound up studying sea birds 0:01:03.104,0:01:06.526 to try to stay in the coastal habitats[br]that I so loved. 0:01:06.550,0:01:11.136 And now I mainly write books[br]about how the ocean is changing, 0:01:11.160,0:01:14.060 and the ocean is certainly[br]changing very rapidly. 0:01:14.084,0:01:19.897 Now we saw this graphic earlier on,[br]that we really live on a hard marble 0:01:19.921,0:01:23.376 that has just a slight bit[br]of wetness to it. 0:01:23.400,0:01:25.642 It's like you dipped a marble in water. 0:01:25.666,0:01:27.733 And the same thing with the atmosphere: 0:01:27.757,0:01:30.982 If you took all the atmosphere[br]and rolled it up in a ball, 0:01:31.006,0:01:33.924 you would get that little sphere[br]of gas on the right. 0:01:33.948,0:01:39.177 So we live on the most fragile[br]little soap bubble you can imagine, 0:01:39.201,0:01:43.964 a very sacred soap bubble,[br]but one that is very, very easy to affect. 0:01:43.988,0:01:48.835 And all the burning of oil and coal[br]and gas, all the fossil fuels, 0:01:48.859,0:01:51.028 have changed the atmosphere greatly. 0:01:51.052,0:01:53.973 Carbon dioxide level[br]has gone up and up and up. 0:01:53.997,0:01:56.314 We're warming the climate. 0:01:56.338,0:01:58.349 So the blowout in the Gulf 0:01:58.373,0:02:02.518 is just a little piece[br]of a much larger problem 0:02:02.542,0:02:06.616 that we have with the energy[br]that we use to run civilization. 0:02:06.640,0:02:08.071 Beyond warming, 0:02:08.095,0:02:11.789 we have the problem[br]of the oceans getting more acidified... 0:02:11.813,0:02:15.955 And already measurably so,[br]and already affecting animals. 0:02:16.600,0:02:23.028 Now in the laboratory, if you take a clam[br]and you put it in the pH that is not 8.1, 0:02:23.052,0:02:26.779 which is the normal pH[br]of seawater, but 7.5, 0:02:26.803,0:02:29.409 it dissolves in about three days. 0:02:29.433,0:02:33.228 If you take a sea urchin larva from 8.1, 0:02:33.252,0:02:37.544 put it in a pH of 7.7...[br]Not a huge change... 0:02:37.568,0:02:40.221 It becomes deformed and dies. 0:02:40.245,0:02:47.087 Already, commercial oyster larvae[br]are dying at large scales in some places. 0:02:47.647,0:02:51.982 Coral reefs are growing slower[br]in some places because of this problem. 0:02:52.006,0:02:53.618 So this really matters. 0:02:53.642,0:02:57.999 Now, let's take a little tour[br]around the Gulf a little bit. 0:02:58.023,0:03:01.412 One of the things that really impresses me[br]about the people in the Gulf: 0:03:01.436,0:03:03.724 They are really, really aquatic people. 0:03:03.748,0:03:05.376 And they can handle water. 0:03:05.400,0:03:08.032 They can handle a hurricane[br]that comes and goes. 0:03:08.056,0:03:10.376 When the water goes down,[br]they know what to do. 0:03:10.400,0:03:15.156 But when it's something other than water,[br]and their water habitat changes, 0:03:15.180,0:03:16.829 they don't have many options. 0:03:16.853,0:03:20.911 In fact, those entire communities[br]really don't have many options. 0:03:20.935,0:03:23.571 They don't have another thing they can do. 0:03:23.595,0:03:27.668 They can't go and work[br]in the local hotel business 0:03:27.692,0:03:30.400 because there isn't one[br]in their community. 0:03:31.922,0:03:36.380 If you go to the Gulf and you look around,[br]you do see a lot of oil. 0:03:36.404,0:03:38.253 You see a lot of oil on the ocean. 0:03:38.277,0:03:40.376 You see a lot of oil on the shoreline. 0:03:40.400,0:03:44.376 If you go to the site of the blowout,[br]it looks pretty unbelievable. 0:03:44.400,0:03:47.376 It looks like you just emptied[br]the oil pan in your car, 0:03:47.400,0:03:49.671 and you just dumped it in the ocean. 0:03:49.695,0:03:52.560 And one of the really[br]most incredible things, I think, 0:03:52.584,0:03:56.156 is that there's nobody out there[br]trying to collect it 0:03:56.180,0:03:58.983 at the site where it is densest. 0:03:59.797,0:04:03.832 Parts of the ocean there[br]look just absolutely apocalyptic. 0:04:05.957,0:04:09.362 You go in along the shore,[br]you can find it everywhere. 0:04:10.456,0:04:11.612 It's really messy. 0:04:11.636,0:04:14.007 If you go to the places[br]where it's just arriving, 0:04:14.031,0:04:16.466 like the eastern part[br]of the Gulf, in Alabama, 0:04:16.490,0:04:18.375 there's still people using the beach 0:04:18.399,0:04:20.543 while there are people[br]cleaning up the beach. 0:04:20.567,0:04:23.289 And they have a very strange[br]way of cleaning up the beach. 0:04:23.313,0:04:25.972 They're not allowed to put[br]more than 10 pounds of sand 0:04:25.996,0:04:27.704 in a 50-gallon plastic bag. 0:04:27.728,0:04:30.084 They have thousands[br]and thousands of plastic bags. 0:04:30.108,0:04:32.398 I don't know what they'll do[br]with all that stuff. 0:04:32.422,0:04:35.143 Meanwhile, there are still[br]people trying to use the beach. 0:04:35.167,0:04:37.945 They don't see the sign[br]that says: "Stay out of the water." 0:04:37.969,0:04:39.398 Their kids are in the water; 0:04:39.422,0:04:42.450 they're getting tar all over[br]their clothes and their sandals... 0:04:42.475,0:04:43.686 It's a mess. 0:04:43.710,0:04:47.214 If you go to where the oil has been[br]for a while, it's an even bigger mess. 0:04:47.238,0:04:49.622 And there's basically[br]nobody there anymore, 0:04:49.646,0:04:52.512 a few people trying to keep using it. 0:04:53.058,0:04:55.396 You see people who are really[br]shell-shocked. 0:04:55.420,0:04:57.409 They are very hardworking people. 0:04:57.433,0:05:00.043 All they know about life[br]is they get up in the morning, 0:05:00.067,0:05:02.363 and if their engine starts,[br]they go to work. 0:05:02.387,0:05:06.676 They always felt that[br]they could rely on the assurances 0:05:06.700,0:05:09.990 that nature brought them[br]through the ecosystem of the Gulf. 0:05:10.014,0:05:12.806 They're finding that their world[br]is really collapsing. 0:05:12.830,0:05:18.716 And so you can see, literally,[br]signs of their shock... 0:05:20.300,0:05:22.776 signs of their outrage... 0:05:25.922,0:05:27.739 signs of their anger... 0:05:32.621,0:05:35.065 and signs of their grief. 0:05:36.134,0:05:38.403 These are the things that you can see. 0:05:40.300,0:05:43.909 There's a lot you can't see,[br]also, underwater. 0:05:44.926,0:05:46.795 What's going on underwater? 0:05:46.819,0:05:50.428 Well, some people say[br]there are oil plumes. 0:05:50.452,0:05:53.276 Some people say there are not oil plumes. 0:05:54.123,0:05:56.474 And Congressman Markey asks, you know, 0:05:56.498,0:06:01.455 "Is it going to take a submarine ride[br]to see if there are really oil plumes?" 0:06:02.027,0:06:03.938 But I couldn't take a submarine ride... 0:06:03.962,0:06:08.051 Especially between the time I knew[br]I was coming here and today... 0:06:08.075,0:06:11.276 So I had to do a little experiment myself 0:06:11.300,0:06:13.686 to see if there was oil[br]in the Gulf of Mexico. 0:06:13.710,0:06:15.365 So this is the Gulf of Mexico... 0:06:16.636,0:06:18.283 sparkling place full of fish. 0:06:19.711,0:06:22.404 And I created a little oil spill[br]in the Gulf of Mexico. 0:06:23.174,0:06:25.874 And I learned, in fact,[br]I confirmed the hypothesis 0:06:25.898,0:06:28.100 that oil and water don't mix... 0:06:29.609,0:06:31.910 until you add a dispersant... 0:06:33.388,0:06:34.585 and then... 0:06:36.190,0:06:37.622 they start mixing. 0:06:38.709,0:06:42.930 And you add a little energy[br]from the wind and the waves, 0:06:42.954,0:06:46.249 and you get a big mess, 0:06:46.273,0:06:49.408 a big mess that you can't possibly clean, 0:06:49.432,0:06:52.453 you can't touch, you can't extract 0:06:52.477,0:06:55.742 and, I think most importantly...[br]This is what I think... 0:06:55.766,0:06:57.276 You can't see it. 0:06:57.300,0:07:00.634 I think it's being hidden on purpose. 0:07:00.658,0:07:03.276 Now this is such a catastrophe[br]and such a mess 0:07:03.300,0:07:06.970 that lots of stuff is leaking out[br]on the edges of the information stream. 0:07:06.994,0:07:08.651 But as many people have said, 0:07:08.675,0:07:11.785 there's a large attempt[br]to suppress what's going on. 0:07:11.809,0:07:18.781 Personally, I think that the dispersants[br]are a major strategy to hide the body, 0:07:18.805,0:07:21.944 because we put the murderer[br]in charge of the crime scene. 0:07:22.870,0:07:24.276 But you can see it. 0:07:24.300,0:07:28.488 You can see where the oil[br]is concentrated at the surface, 0:07:28.512,0:07:31.143 and then it is attacked, 0:07:31.167,0:07:34.123 because they don't want[br]the evidence, in my opinion. 0:07:34.677,0:07:35.827 OK. 0:07:36.198,0:07:38.408 We heard that bacteria eat oil? 0:07:38.719,0:07:40.276 So do sea turtles. 0:07:40.825,0:07:42.233 When it breaks up, 0:07:42.257,0:07:45.731 it has a long way to go[br]before it gets down to bacteria. 0:07:46.196,0:07:49.276 Turtles eat it.[br]It gets in the gills of fish. 0:07:49.300,0:07:51.557 These guys have to swim around through it. 0:07:51.581,0:07:56.418 I heard the most incredible story today[br]when I was on the train coming here. 0:07:56.999,0:07:59.276 A writer named Ted Williams called me, 0:07:59.823,0:08:02.707 and he was asking me[br]a couple of questions about what I saw, 0:08:02.731,0:08:05.874 because he's writing an article[br]for Audubon magazine. 0:08:05.898,0:08:09.645 He said that he had been in the Gulf[br]a little while ago; like about a week ago, 0:08:09.669,0:08:13.583 and a guy who had[br]been a recreational fishing guide 0:08:13.607,0:08:16.276 took him out to show him what's going on. 0:08:16.300,0:08:21.276 That guide's entire calendar year[br]is canceled bookings. 0:08:21.300,0:08:23.213 He has no bookings left. 0:08:23.237,0:08:26.276 Everybody wanted their deposit back,[br]everybody is fleeing. 0:08:26.300,0:08:28.267 That's the story of thousands of people. 0:08:28.291,0:08:33.369 But he told Ted[br]that on the last day he went out, 0:08:33.924,0:08:37.647 a bottlenose dolphin[br]suddenly appeared next to the boat, 0:08:38.067,0:08:41.787 and it was splattering oil[br]out its blowhole. 0:08:43.238,0:08:47.953 And he moved away[br]because it was his last fishing trip, 0:08:49.099,0:08:51.276 and he knew that the dolphins scare fish. 0:08:51.300,0:08:55.184 So he moved away from it,[br]turned around a few minutes later, 0:08:55.208,0:08:57.455 it was right next to the side[br]of the boat again. 0:08:57.479,0:09:00.900 He said that in 30 years of fishing[br]he had never seen a dolphin do that. 0:09:00.924,0:09:02.485 And he felt that... 0:09:02.993,0:09:04.196 (Sigh) 0:09:04.220,0:09:07.881 he felt that it was[br]coming to ask for help. 0:09:08.238,0:09:09.388 Sorry. 0:09:10.692,0:09:14.646 Now, in the Exxon Valdez spill, 0:09:15.160,0:09:19.914 about 30 percent of the killer whales[br]died in the first few months. 0:09:19.938,0:09:21.858 Their numbers have never recovered. 0:09:21.882,0:09:26.747 So the recovery rate of all this stuff[br]is going to be variable. 0:09:26.771,0:09:29.596 It's going to take longer for some things. 0:09:29.620,0:09:33.208 And some things, I think,[br]will probably come back a little faster. 0:09:33.573,0:09:36.276 The other thing about the Gulf[br]that is important 0:09:36.300,0:09:39.765 is that there are a lot of animals[br]that concentrate in the Gulf 0:09:39.789,0:09:42.325 at certain parts of the year. 0:09:43.122,0:09:45.729 So the Gulf is a really[br]important piece of water... 0:09:45.753,0:09:50.663 More important than a similar volume[br]of water in the open Atlantic Ocean. 0:09:51.300,0:09:53.276 These tuna swim the entire ocean. 0:09:53.300,0:09:56.073 They get in the Gulf Stream,[br]they go all the way to Europe. 0:09:56.097,0:09:58.265 When it comes time to spawn,[br]they come inside, 0:09:58.289,0:10:00.014 and these two tuna that were tagged, 0:10:00.038,0:10:02.138 you can see them on the spawning grounds 0:10:02.162,0:10:04.867 very much right in the area of the slick. 0:10:04.891,0:10:07.376 They're probably having,[br]at the very least, 0:10:07.400,0:10:10.153 a catastrophic spawning season this year. 0:10:10.177,0:10:13.671 I'm hoping that maybe the adults[br]are avoiding that dirty water. 0:10:14.017,0:10:18.059 They don't usually like to go into water[br]that is very cloudy anyway. 0:10:18.448,0:10:22.240 But these are really[br]high-performance athletic animals. 0:10:22.264,0:10:25.506 I don't know what this kind of stuff[br]will do in their gills. 0:10:25.530,0:10:27.476 I don't know if it'll affect the adults. 0:10:27.500,0:10:30.317 If it's not, it's certainly affecting[br]their eggs and larvae, 0:10:30.341,0:10:31.528 I would certainly think. 0:10:31.552,0:10:34.895 But if you look at that graph[br]that goes down and down and down, 0:10:34.919,0:10:39.640 that's what we've done to this species[br]through overfishing over many decades. 0:10:39.664,0:10:44.821 So while the oil spill, the leak,[br]the eruption, is a catastrophe, 0:10:44.845,0:10:47.578 I think it's important to keep in mind 0:10:47.602,0:10:51.718 that we've done a lot to affect[br]what's in the ocean, for a very long time. 0:10:51.742,0:10:55.080 It's not like we're starting[br]with something that's been OK. 0:10:55.104,0:10:57.840 We're starting with something[br]that's had a lot of stresses 0:10:57.864,0:10:59.726 and a lot of problems to begin with. 0:10:59.750,0:11:03.776 If you look around at the birds,[br]there are a lot of birds in the Gulf 0:11:03.800,0:11:06.567 that concentrate in the Gulf[br]at certain times of the year, 0:11:06.591,0:11:07.875 but then leave. 0:11:07.899,0:11:10.971 And they populate much larger areas. 0:11:12.687,0:11:16.877 For instance, most of the birds[br]in this picture are migratory birds. 0:11:16.901,0:11:18.743 They were all on the Gulf in May, 0:11:18.767,0:11:21.884 while oil was starting[br]to come ashore in certain places. 0:11:21.908,0:11:26.463 Down on the lower left there[br]are ruddy turnstones and sanderlings. 0:11:26.487,0:11:28.210 They breed in the High Arctic, 0:11:28.234,0:11:30.796 and they winter[br]down in southern South America. 0:11:30.820,0:11:35.631 But they concentrate in the Gulf[br]and then fan out all across the Arctic. 0:11:35.655,0:11:38.781 I saw birds that breed[br]in Greenland, in the Gulf. 0:11:40.152,0:11:43.563 So this is a hemispheric issue. 0:11:43.587,0:11:48.383 The economic effects[br]go at least nationally in many ways. 0:11:48.407,0:11:51.474 The biological effects[br]are certainly hemispheric. 0:11:54.167,0:11:59.360 I think that this is one of the most[br]absolutely mind-boggling examples 0:11:59.384,0:12:02.196 of total unpreparedness[br]that I can even think of. 0:12:02.220,0:12:06.118 Even when the Japanese[br]bombed Pearl Harbor, 0:12:06.142,0:12:07.549 at least they shot back. 0:12:07.573,0:12:11.656 And we just seem to be unable[br]to figure out what to do. 0:12:11.680,0:12:15.316 There was nothing ready, 0:12:15.340,0:12:18.730 and, you know, as we can see[br]by what they're doing. 0:12:18.754,0:12:21.518 Mainly what they're doing[br]is booms and dispersants. 0:12:21.542,0:12:25.294 The booms are absolutely[br]not made for open water. 0:12:25.318,0:12:30.159 They don't even attempt to corral[br]the oil where it is most concentrated. 0:12:30.183,0:12:32.417 They get near shore...[br]Look at these two boats. 0:12:32.441,0:12:35.065 That one on the right[br]is called Fishing Fool. 0:12:35.089,0:12:37.099 And I think, you know, that's a great name 0:12:37.123,0:12:40.181 for boats that think[br]that they're going to do anything 0:12:40.205,0:12:43.277 to make a dent in this,[br]by dragging a boom between them 0:12:43.301,0:12:46.265 when there are literally[br]hundreds of thousands of square miles 0:12:46.289,0:12:49.170 in the Gulf right now[br]with oil at the surface. 0:12:49.194,0:12:52.944 The dispersants make the oil[br]go right under the booms. 0:12:52.968,0:12:56.332 The booms are only[br]about 13 inches in diameter. 0:12:57.167,0:13:00.193 So it's just absolutely crazy. 0:13:00.217,0:13:01.911 Here are shrimp boats employed. 0:13:01.935,0:13:05.876 There are hundreds of shrimp boats[br]employed to drag booms instead of nets. 0:13:05.900,0:13:07.223 Here they are working. 0:13:07.247,0:13:09.044 You can see easily 0:13:09.068,0:13:12.963 that all the oily water[br]just goes over the back of the boom. 0:13:12.987,0:13:14.937 All they're doing is stirring it. 0:13:14.961,0:13:16.559 It's just ridiculous. 0:13:18.404,0:13:20.509 Also, for all the shoreline[br]that has booms... 0:13:20.533,0:13:22.704 Hundreds and hundreds[br]of miles of shoreline... 0:13:22.728,0:13:24.509 All of the shoreline that has booms, 0:13:24.533,0:13:27.219 there's adjacent shoreline[br]that doesn't have any booms. 0:13:27.243,0:13:32.276 There is ample opportunity for oil[br]and dirty water to get in behind them. 0:13:32.300,0:13:36.123 And that lower photo,[br]that's a bird colony that has been boomed. 0:13:36.147,0:13:40.716 Everybody's trying to protect[br]the bird colonies there. 0:13:40.740,0:13:45.971 Well, as an ornithologist,[br]I can tell you that birds fly, and that... 0:13:45.995,0:13:48.300 (Laughter) 0:13:50.971,0:13:56.276 and that booming a bird colony[br]doesn't do it; it doesn't do it. 0:13:56.300,0:13:59.820 These birds make a living[br]by diving into the water. 0:14:00.923,0:14:02.073 In fact... 0:14:03.440,0:14:06.583 really what I think[br]they should do, if anything... 0:14:06.607,0:14:09.744 They're trying so hard[br]to protect those nests... 0:14:09.768,0:14:12.441 Actually, if they destroyed[br]every single nest, 0:14:12.465,0:14:14.501 some of the birds would leave, 0:14:14.525,0:14:16.830 and that would be better[br]for them this year. 0:14:17.715,0:14:19.248 As far as cleaning them... 0:14:20.301,0:14:25.234 I don't mean to cast any aspersion[br]on people cleaning birds. 0:14:25.258,0:14:29.158 It's really, really important[br]that we express our compassion. 0:14:29.182,0:14:32.722 I think that's the most important[br]thing that people have, is compassion. 0:14:33.326,0:14:37.276 It's really important[br]to get those images and to show it. 0:14:37.300,0:14:40.675 But really, where are those birds[br]going to get released to? 0:14:40.699,0:14:43.144 It's like taking somebody[br]out of a burning building, 0:14:43.168,0:14:44.808 treating them for smoke inhalation 0:14:44.832,0:14:48.585 and sending them back into the building,[br]because the oil is still gushing. 0:14:48.986,0:14:52.878 I refuse to acknowledge this[br]as anything like an accident. 0:14:52.902,0:14:56.489 I think that this is the result[br]of gross negligence. 0:14:56.513,0:15:01.276 (Applause) 0:15:01.648,0:15:03.931 Not just BP. 0:15:03.955,0:15:10.612 BP operated very sloppily[br]and very recklessly because they could. 0:15:10.636,0:15:12.583 And they were allowed to do so 0:15:12.607,0:15:17.000 because of the absolute failure[br]of oversight of the government 0:15:17.024,0:15:21.349 that is supposed to be[br]our government, protecting us. 0:15:23.605,0:15:25.114 It turns out that... 0:15:25.138,0:15:28.369 You see this sign on every commercial[br]vessel in the United States... 0:15:28.393,0:15:30.995 You know, if you spilled[br]a couple of gallons of oil, 0:15:31.019,0:15:32.398 you would be in big trouble. 0:15:32.422,0:15:37.029 And you have to really wonder[br]who are the laws made for, 0:15:37.053,0:15:40.725 and who has gotten above the laws. 0:15:40.749,0:15:43.100 And there are things[br]that we can do in the future. 0:15:43.124,0:15:46.176 We could have the kinds of equipment[br]that we would really need. 0:15:46.200,0:15:48.803 It would not take[br]an awful lot to anticipate 0:15:49.176,0:15:51.571 that after making 30,000 holes 0:15:51.595,0:15:54.420 in the sea floor of the Gulf[br]of Mexico looking for oil, 0:15:54.444,0:15:56.837 oil might start coming out of one of them. 0:15:56.861,0:16:00.021 And you'd have some idea of what to do. 0:16:00.045,0:16:02.336 That's certainly[br]one of the things we need to do. 0:16:02.360,0:16:06.409 But I think we have to understand[br]where this leak really started from. 0:16:07.300,0:16:12.647 It really started from the destruction[br]of the idea that the government is there 0:16:12.671,0:16:14.386 because it's our government, 0:16:14.410,0:16:17.294 meant to protect[br]the larger public interest. 0:16:21.300,0:16:25.260 So I think that the oil blowout,[br]the bank bailout, 0:16:25.940,0:16:32.605 the mortgage crisis and all these things[br]are absolutely symptoms of the same cause. 0:16:33.536,0:16:36.405 We still seem to understand that at least, 0:16:36.429,0:16:40.819 we need the police to protect us[br]from a few bad people. 0:16:40.843,0:16:43.846 And even though the police[br]can be a little annoying at times... 0:16:43.870,0:16:45.781 Giving us tickets and stuff like that... 0:16:45.805,0:16:48.330 Nobody says that we should[br]just get rid of them. 0:16:48.354,0:16:51.276 But in the entire rest[br]of government right now 0:16:51.300,0:16:53.162 and for the last at least 30 years, 0:16:53.186,0:16:56.276 there has been a culture of deregulation 0:16:56.300,0:17:01.706 that is caused directly by the people[br]who we need to be protected from, 0:17:02.254,0:17:04.777 buying the government out from under us. 0:17:05.563,0:17:12.563 (Applause) 0:17:15.221,0:17:18.027 Now this has been a problem[br]for a very, very long time. 0:17:18.464,0:17:23.824 You can see that corporations were illegal[br]at the founding of America, 0:17:23.848,0:17:26.556 and even Thomas Jefferson complained 0:17:26.579,0:17:32.196 that they were already bidding defiance[br]to the laws of our country. 0:17:33.462,0:17:36.357 OK, people who say they're conservative, 0:17:36.991,0:17:41.804 if they really wanted to be[br]really conservative and patriotic, 0:17:41.828,0:17:44.872 they would tell[br]these corporations to go to hell. 0:17:45.483,0:17:48.300 That's what it would really mean[br]to be conservative. 0:17:49.107,0:17:53.805 So what we really need to do[br]is regain the idea 0:17:53.829,0:17:57.044 that it's our government[br]safeguarding our interests, 0:17:57.068,0:18:01.276 and regain a sense of unity[br]and common cause in our country 0:18:01.300,0:18:02.929 that really has been lost. 0:18:04.232,0:18:06.162 I think there are signs of hope. 0:18:06.186,0:18:08.276 We seem to be waking up a little bit. 0:18:08.715,0:18:11.727 The Glass-Steagall Act...[br]Which was really to protect us 0:18:11.751,0:18:14.777 from the kind of thing[br]that caused the recession to happen, 0:18:14.801,0:18:18.493 and the bank meltdown and all that stuff[br]that required the bailouts... 0:18:18.517,0:18:22.732 That was put in effect in 1933,[br]was systematically destroyed. 0:18:23.237,0:18:26.974 Now there's a mood to put[br]some of that stuff back in place, 0:18:26.998,0:18:31.519 but the lobbyists are already there[br]trying to weaken the regulations 0:18:31.543,0:18:34.276 after the legislation has just passed. 0:18:34.300,0:18:36.276 So it's a continued fight. 0:18:36.300,0:18:38.348 It's a historic moment right now. 0:18:38.372,0:18:42.385 We're either going to have an absolutely[br]unmitigated catastrophe 0:18:42.409,0:18:44.046 of this oil leak in the Gulf, 0:18:44.070,0:18:46.716 or we will make the moment[br]we need out of this, 0:18:46.740,0:18:48.407 as many people have noted today. 0:18:48.431,0:18:50.087 There's certainly a common theme 0:18:50.111,0:18:52.518 about needing to make[br]the moment out of this. 0:18:52.542,0:18:56.557 We've been through this before[br]with other ways of offshore drilling. 0:18:56.581,0:18:59.276 The first offshore wells[br]were called whales. 0:18:59.605,0:19:02.463 The first offshore drills[br]were called harpoons. 0:19:02.487,0:19:05.276 We emptied the ocean[br]of the whales at that time. 0:19:06.035,0:19:07.731 Now are we stuck with this? 0:19:07.755,0:19:11.667 Ever since we lived in caves,[br]every time we wanted any energy, 0:19:11.691,0:19:15.242 we lit something on fire,[br]and that is still what we're doing. 0:19:15.266,0:19:19.460 We're still lighting something on fire[br]every time we want energy. 0:19:19.890,0:19:23.375 And people say we can't have clean energy 0:19:23.399,0:19:25.711 because it's too expensive. 0:19:26.300,0:19:28.072 Who says it's too expensive? 0:19:28.096,0:19:30.354 People who sell us fossil fuels. 0:19:30.378,0:19:33.276 We've been here before with energy, 0:19:33.300,0:19:37.401 and people saying the economy[br]cannot withstand a switch, 0:19:37.425,0:19:40.637 because the cheapest energy was slavery. 0:19:40.661,0:19:43.418 Energy is always a moral issue. 0:19:43.442,0:19:45.707 It's an issue that is moral right now. 0:19:45.731,0:19:48.274 It's a matter of right and wrong. 0:19:48.298,0:19:49.466 Thank you very much. 0:19:49.490,0:19:50.863 (Applause)