WEBVTT 00:00:01.458 --> 00:00:04.125 I am a capitalist, 00:00:05.458 --> 00:00:08.393 and after a 30-year career in capitalism 00:00:08.417 --> 00:00:10.934 spanning three dozen companies, 00:00:10.958 --> 00:00:14.309 generating tens of billions of dollars in market value, 00:00:14.333 --> 00:00:20.208 I'm not just in the top one percent, I'm in the top .01 percent of all earners. 00:00:21.500 --> 00:00:24.518 Today, I have come to share the secrets of our success, 00:00:24.542 --> 00:00:28.726 because rich capitalists like me have never been richer. 00:00:28.750 --> 00:00:31.375 So the question is, how do we do it? 00:00:32.292 --> 00:00:33.851 How do we manage to grab 00:00:33.875 --> 00:00:37.708 an ever-increasing share of the economic pie every year? 00:00:38.875 --> 00:00:42.792 Is it that rich people are smarter than we were 30 years ago? 00:00:43.833 --> 00:00:46.208 Is it that we're working harder than we once did? 00:00:47.500 --> 00:00:50.000 Are we taller, better looking? NOTE Paragraph 00:00:51.292 --> 00:00:52.542 Sadly, no. 00:00:53.542 --> 00:00:56.143 It all comes down to just one thing: 00:00:56.167 --> 00:00:57.417 economics. 00:00:58.250 --> 00:00:59.822 Because, here's the dirty secret. 00:01:00.667 --> 00:01:03.018 There was a time in which the economics profession 00:01:03.042 --> 00:01:04.518 worked in the public interest, 00:01:04.542 --> 00:01:06.434 but in the neoliberal era, 00:01:06.458 --> 00:01:08.184 today, 00:01:08.208 --> 00:01:10.643 they work only for big corporations 00:01:10.667 --> 00:01:12.226 and billionaires, 00:01:12.250 --> 00:01:14.833 and that is creating a little bit of a problem. 00:01:15.792 --> 00:01:19.601 We could choose to enact economic policies 00:01:19.625 --> 00:01:21.500 that raise taxes on the rich, 00:01:22.417 --> 00:01:26.268 regulate powerful corporations or raise wages for workers. 00:01:26.292 --> 00:01:27.809 We have done it before. 00:01:27.833 --> 00:01:30.309 But neoliberal economists would warn 00:01:30.333 --> 00:01:34.351 that all of these policies would be a terrible mistake, 00:01:34.375 --> 00:01:37.125 because raising taxes always kills economic growth, 00:01:38.083 --> 00:01:40.351 and any form of government regulation 00:01:40.375 --> 00:01:42.059 is inefficient, 00:01:42.083 --> 00:01:44.458 and raising wages always kills jobs. 00:01:45.375 --> 00:01:47.458 Well, as a consequence of that thinking, 00:01:48.542 --> 00:01:52.768 over the last 30 years, in the USA alone, 00:01:52.792 --> 00:01:57.059 the top one percent has grown 21 trillion dollars richer 00:01:57.083 --> 00:02:02.518 while the bottom 50 percent have grown 900 billion dollars poorer, 00:02:02.542 --> 00:02:06.434 a pattern of widening inequality that has largely repeated itself 00:02:06.458 --> 00:02:07.934 across the world. 00:02:07.958 --> 00:02:12.601 And yet, as middle class families struggle to get by 00:02:12.625 --> 00:02:16.518 on wages that have not budged in about 40 years, 00:02:16.542 --> 00:02:20.684 neoliberal economists continue to warn that the only reasonable response 00:02:20.708 --> 00:02:24.809 to the painful dislocations of austerity and globalization 00:02:24.833 --> 00:02:27.625 is even more austerity and globalization. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:28.708 --> 00:02:31.625 So, what is a society to do? 00:02:32.833 --> 00:02:35.726 Well, it's super clear to me what we need to do. 00:02:35.750 --> 00:02:37.667 We need a new economics. 00:02:39.167 --> 00:02:43.226 So, economics has been described as the dismal science, 00:02:43.250 --> 00:02:46.351 and for good reason, because as much as it is taught today, 00:02:46.375 --> 00:02:47.976 it isn't a science at all, 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:51.393 in spite of all of the dazzling mathematics. 00:02:51.417 --> 00:02:54.601 In fact, a growing number of academics and practitioners 00:02:54.625 --> 00:03:00.601 have concluded that neoliberal economic theory is dangerously wrong 00:03:00.625 --> 00:03:04.226 and that today's growing crises of rising inequality 00:03:04.250 --> 00:03:05.934 and growing political instability 00:03:05.958 --> 00:03:11.143 are the direct result of decades of bad economic theory. 00:03:11.167 --> 00:03:17.143 What we now know is that the economics that made me so rich isn't just wrong, 00:03:17.167 --> 00:03:19.184 it's backwards, 00:03:19.208 --> 00:03:21.143 because it turns out 00:03:21.167 --> 00:03:24.934 it isn't capital that creates economic growth, 00:03:24.958 --> 00:03:26.208 it's people; 00:03:27.250 --> 00:03:32.018 and it isn't self-interest that promotes the public good, 00:03:32.042 --> 00:03:33.292 it's reciprocity; 00:03:34.542 --> 00:03:38.809 and it isn't competition that produces our prosperity, 00:03:38.833 --> 00:03:40.458 it's cooperation. 00:03:41.333 --> 00:03:46.351 What we can now see is that an economics that is neither just nor inclusive 00:03:46.375 --> 00:03:50.768 can never sustain the high levels of social cooperation 00:03:50.792 --> 00:03:53.434 necessary to enable a modern society to thrive. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:53.458 --> 00:03:56.042 So where did we go wrong? 00:03:57.250 --> 00:04:01.434 Well, it turns out that it's become painfully obvious 00:04:01.458 --> 00:04:07.476 that the fundamental assumptions that undergird neoliberal economic theory 00:04:07.500 --> 00:04:10.601 are just objectively false, 00:04:10.625 --> 00:04:14.434 and so today first I want to take you through some of those mistaken assumptions 00:04:14.458 --> 00:04:20.500 and then after describe where the science suggests prosperity actually comes from. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:21.416 --> 00:04:25.559 So, neoliberal economic assumption number one is 00:04:25.583 --> 00:04:30.018 that the market is an efficient equilibrium system, 00:04:30.042 --> 00:04:36.059 which basically means that if one thing in the economy, like wages, goes up, 00:04:36.083 --> 00:04:40.250 another thing in the economy, like jobs, must go down. 00:04:41.333 --> 00:04:43.708 So for example, in Seattle, where I live, 00:04:44.958 --> 00:04:49.976 when in 2014 we passed our nation's first 15 dollar minimum wage, 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:54.417 the neoliberals freaked out over their precious equilibrium. 00:04:55.375 --> 00:04:58.226 "If you raise the price of labor," they warned, 00:04:58.250 --> 00:05:00.268 "businesses will purchase less of it. 00:05:00.292 --> 00:05:02.809 Thousands of low-wage workers will lose their jobs. 00:05:02.833 --> 00:05:04.726 The restaurants will close." 00:05:04.750 --> 00:05:06.000 Except ... 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:08.250 they didn't. 00:05:08.917 --> 00:05:12.125 The unemployment rate fell dramatically. 00:05:13.125 --> 00:05:16.018 The restaurant business in Seattle boomed. 00:05:16.042 --> 00:05:17.292 Why? 00:05:18.083 --> 00:05:20.500 Because there is no equilibrium. 00:05:21.917 --> 00:05:24.726 Because raising wages doesn't kill jobs, it creates them; 00:05:24.750 --> 00:05:26.226 because, for instance, 00:05:26.250 --> 00:05:31.143 when restaurant owners are suddenly required to pay restaurant workers enough 00:05:31.167 --> 00:05:35.184 so that now even they can afford to eat in restaurants, 00:05:35.208 --> 00:05:37.226 it doesn't shrink the restaurant business, 00:05:37.250 --> 00:05:39.458 it grows it, obviously. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:41.333 --> 00:05:42.601 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:42.625 --> 00:05:44.042 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:46.208 --> 00:05:48.458 The second assumption is 00:05:49.917 --> 00:05:54.893 that the price of something is always equal to its value, 00:05:54.917 --> 00:05:58.476 which basically means that if you earn 50,000 dollars a year 00:05:58.500 --> 00:06:01.434 and I earn 50 million dollars a year, 00:06:01.458 --> 00:06:05.750 that's because I produce a thousand times as much value as you. 00:06:06.583 --> 00:06:08.226 Now, 00:06:08.250 --> 00:06:11.893 it will not surprise you to learn 00:06:11.917 --> 00:06:13.893 that this is a very comforting assumption 00:06:13.917 --> 00:06:16.601 if you're a CEO paying yourself 50 million dollars a year 00:06:16.625 --> 00:06:19.559 but paying your workers poverty wages. 00:06:19.583 --> 00:06:23.726 But please, take it from somebody who has run dozens of businesses: 00:06:23.750 --> 00:06:26.143 this is nonsense. 00:06:26.167 --> 00:06:28.559 People are not paid what they are worth. 00:06:28.583 --> 00:06:31.851 They are paid what they have the power to negotiate, 00:06:31.875 --> 00:06:34.643 and wages' falling share of GDP 00:06:34.667 --> 00:06:38.184 is not because workers have become less productive 00:06:38.208 --> 00:06:41.375 but because employers have become more powerful. 00:06:42.333 --> 00:06:43.601 And -- NOTE Paragraph 00:06:43.625 --> 00:06:45.208 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:06:47.167 --> 00:06:52.643 And by pretending that the giant imbalance in power between capital and labor 00:06:52.667 --> 00:06:54.309 doesn't exist, 00:06:54.333 --> 00:06:58.059 neoliberal economic theory became essentially 00:06:58.083 --> 00:07:00.333 a protection racket for the rich. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:01.500 --> 00:07:04.018 The third assumption, and by far the most pernicious, 00:07:04.042 --> 00:07:05.351 is a behavioral model 00:07:05.375 --> 00:07:09.226 that describes human beings as something called "homo economicus," 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:14.476 which basically means that we are all perfectly selfish, 00:07:14.500 --> 00:07:18.500 perfectly rational and relentlessly self-maximizing. 00:07:19.958 --> 00:07:21.559 But just ask yourselves, 00:07:21.583 --> 00:07:25.393 is it plausible that every single time for your entire life, 00:07:25.417 --> 00:07:27.601 when you did something nice for somebody else, 00:07:27.625 --> 00:07:30.893 all you were doing was maximizing your own utility? 00:07:30.917 --> 00:07:34.768 Is it plausible that when a soldier jumps on a grenade to defend fellow soldiers, 00:07:34.792 --> 00:07:37.518 they're just promoting their narrow self-interest? 00:07:37.542 --> 00:07:39.351 If you think that's nuts, 00:07:39.375 --> 00:07:42.476 contrary to any reasonable moral intuition, 00:07:42.500 --> 00:07:44.309 that's because it is 00:07:44.333 --> 00:07:46.101 and, according to the latest science, 00:07:46.125 --> 00:07:47.768 not true. 00:07:47.792 --> 00:07:50.309 But it is this behavioral model 00:07:50.333 --> 00:07:53.601 which is at the cold, cruel heart of neoliberal economics, 00:07:53.625 --> 00:07:57.309 and it is as morally corrosive 00:07:57.333 --> 00:07:59.851 as it is scientifically wrong 00:07:59.875 --> 00:08:04.934 because, if we accept at face value 00:08:04.958 --> 00:08:07.768 that humans are fundamentally selfish, 00:08:07.792 --> 00:08:10.018 and then we look around the world 00:08:10.042 --> 00:08:13.042 at all of the unambiguous prosperity in it, 00:08:14.083 --> 00:08:16.934 then it follows logically, 00:08:16.958 --> 00:08:18.768 then it must be true by definition, 00:08:18.792 --> 00:08:22.643 that billions of individual acts of selfishness 00:08:22.667 --> 00:08:26.684 magically transubstantiate into prosperity and the common good. 00:08:26.708 --> 00:08:29.601 If we humans are merely selfish maximizers, 00:08:29.625 --> 00:08:33.207 then selfishness is the cause of our prosperity. 00:08:34.125 --> 00:08:36.726 Under this economic logic, 00:08:36.750 --> 00:08:38.707 greed is good, 00:08:39.667 --> 00:08:42.018 widening inequality is efficient, 00:08:42.042 --> 00:08:44.393 and the only purpose of the corporation 00:08:44.417 --> 00:08:46.893 can be to enrich shareholders, 00:08:46.917 --> 00:08:50.018 because to do otherwise would be to slow economic growth 00:08:50.042 --> 00:08:51.833 and harm the economy overall. 00:08:53.333 --> 00:08:56.726 And it is this gospel of selfishness 00:08:56.750 --> 00:09:00.976 which forms the ideological cornerstone of neoliberal economics, 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:04.643 a way of thinking which has produced economic policies 00:09:04.667 --> 00:09:08.393 which have enabled me and my rich buddies in the top one percent 00:09:08.417 --> 00:09:12.375 to grab virtually all of the benefits of growth over the last 40 years. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:13.083 --> 00:09:14.934 But, 00:09:14.958 --> 00:09:17.018 if instead 00:09:17.042 --> 00:09:20.684 we accept the latest empirical research, 00:09:20.708 --> 00:09:24.059 real science, which correctly describes human beings 00:09:24.083 --> 00:09:27.268 as highly cooperative, 00:09:27.292 --> 00:09:28.559 reciprocal 00:09:28.583 --> 00:09:31.518 and intuitively moral creatures, 00:09:31.542 --> 00:09:34.184 then it follows logically 00:09:34.208 --> 00:09:36.726 that it must be cooperation 00:09:36.750 --> 00:09:38.351 and not selfishness 00:09:38.375 --> 00:09:40.143 that is the cause of our prosperity, 00:09:40.167 --> 00:09:42.518 and it isn't our self-interest 00:09:42.542 --> 00:09:45.167 but rather our inherent reciprocity 00:09:46.250 --> 00:09:49.083 that is humanity's economic superpower. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:49.833 --> 00:09:54.309 So at the heart of this new economics 00:09:54.333 --> 00:09:59.101 is a story about ourselves that grants us permission to be our best selves, 00:09:59.125 --> 00:10:02.101 and, unlike the old economics, 00:10:02.125 --> 00:10:04.851 this is a story that is virtuous 00:10:04.875 --> 00:10:07.708 and also has the virtue of being true. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.893 Now, 00:10:10.917 --> 00:10:13.101 I want to emphasize that this new economics 00:10:13.125 --> 00:10:15.768 is not something I have personally imagined or invented. 00:10:15.792 --> 00:10:18.601 Its theories and models are being developed and refined 00:10:18.625 --> 00:10:20.643 in universities around the world 00:10:20.667 --> 00:10:23.976 building on some of the best new research in economics, 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:25.893 complexity theory, evolutionary theory, 00:10:25.917 --> 00:10:29.018 psychology, anthropology and other disciplines. 00:10:29.042 --> 00:10:33.851 And although this new economics does not yet have its own textbook 00:10:33.875 --> 00:10:36.226 or even a commonly agreed upon name, 00:10:36.250 --> 00:10:38.268 in broad strokes 00:10:38.292 --> 00:10:42.458 its explanation of where prosperity comes from goes something like this. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:43.458 --> 00:10:48.018 So, market capitalism is an evolutionary system 00:10:48.042 --> 00:10:50.476 in which prosperity emerges 00:10:50.500 --> 00:10:52.059 through a positive feedback loop 00:10:52.083 --> 00:10:57.018 between increasing amounts of innovation and increasing amounts of consumer demand. 00:10:57.042 --> 00:11:01.667 Innovation is the process by which we solve human problems, 00:11:02.583 --> 00:11:05.893 consumer demand is the mechanism through which the market selects 00:11:05.917 --> 00:11:08.309 for useful innovations, 00:11:08.333 --> 00:11:11.559 and as we solve more problems, we become more prosperous. 00:11:11.583 --> 00:11:15.559 But as we become more prosperous, 00:11:15.583 --> 00:11:17.393 our problems and solutions 00:11:17.417 --> 00:11:20.184 become more complex, 00:11:20.208 --> 00:11:23.351 and this increasing technical complexity 00:11:23.375 --> 00:11:27.893 requires ever higher levels of social and economic cooperation 00:11:27.917 --> 00:11:30.809 in order to produce the more highly specialized products 00:11:30.833 --> 00:11:35.125 that define a modern economy. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:36.042 --> 00:11:40.726 Now, the old economics is correct, of course, 00:11:40.750 --> 00:11:44.309 that competition plays a crucial role in how markets work, 00:11:44.333 --> 00:11:46.434 but what it fails to see 00:11:46.458 --> 00:11:51.143 is that it is largely a competition between highly cooperative groups -- 00:11:51.167 --> 00:11:55.934 competition between firms, competition between networks of firms, 00:11:55.958 --> 00:11:58.643 competition between nations -- 00:11:58.667 --> 00:12:02.559 and anyone who has ever run a successful business knows 00:12:02.583 --> 00:12:06.333 that building a cooperative team by including the talents of everyone 00:12:07.792 --> 00:12:12.208 is almost always a better strategy than just a bunch of selfish jerks. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:13.417 --> 00:12:18.250 So how do we leave neoliberalism behind 00:12:20.458 --> 00:12:23.917 and build a more sustainable, more prosperous 00:12:25.042 --> 00:12:28.018 and more equitable society? 00:12:28.042 --> 00:12:31.542 The new economics suggests just five rules of thumb. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:32.042 --> 00:12:38.583 First is that successful economies are not jungles, they're gardens, 00:12:39.667 --> 00:12:43.351 which is to say that markets, 00:12:43.375 --> 00:12:46.167 like gardens, must be tended, 00:12:47.208 --> 00:12:51.934 that the market is the greatest social technology ever invented 00:12:51.958 --> 00:12:53.434 for solving human problems, 00:12:53.458 --> 00:12:58.643 but unconstrained by social norms or democratic regulation, 00:12:58.667 --> 00:13:02.018 markets inevitably create more problems than they solve. 00:13:02.042 --> 00:13:03.309 Climate change, 00:13:03.333 --> 00:13:05.309 the great financial crisis of 2008 00:13:05.333 --> 00:13:07.042 are two easy examples. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:07.500 --> 00:13:10.976 The second rule is 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.000 that inclusion creates economic growth. 00:13:16.208 --> 00:13:18.768 So the neoliberal idea 00:13:18.792 --> 00:13:21.393 that inclusion is this fancy luxury 00:13:21.417 --> 00:13:25.917 to be afforded if and when we have growth is both wrong and backwards. 00:13:27.208 --> 00:13:29.667 The economy is people. 00:13:30.667 --> 00:13:32.726 Including more people in more ways 00:13:32.750 --> 00:13:36.792 is what causes economic growth in market economies. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:37.875 --> 00:13:39.934 The third principle 00:13:39.958 --> 00:13:46.143 is the purpose of the corporation is not merely to enrich shareholders. 00:13:46.167 --> 00:13:49.934 The greatest grift in contemporary economic life 00:13:49.958 --> 00:13:52.934 is the neoliberal idea that the only purpose of the corporation 00:13:52.958 --> 00:13:55.851 and the only responsibility of executives 00:13:55.875 --> 00:13:58.958 is to enrich themselves and shareholders. 00:13:59.958 --> 00:14:05.393 The new economics must and can insist 00:14:05.417 --> 00:14:07.143 that the purpose of the corporation 00:14:07.167 --> 00:14:10.059 is to improve the welfare of all stakeholders: 00:14:10.083 --> 00:14:12.309 customers, workers, 00:14:12.333 --> 00:14:14.417 community and shareholders alike. NOTE Paragraph 00:14:16.208 --> 00:14:18.226 Rule four: 00:14:18.250 --> 00:14:20.458 greed is not good. 00:14:22.583 --> 00:14:26.351 Being rapacious doesn't make you a capitalist, 00:14:26.375 --> 00:14:28.434 it makes you a sociopath. NOTE Paragraph 00:14:28.458 --> 00:14:30.893 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:14:30.917 --> 00:14:35.018 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:14:35.042 --> 00:14:40.226 And in an economy as dependent upon cooperation at scale as ours, 00:14:40.250 --> 00:14:44.375 sociopathy is as bad for business as it is for society. NOTE Paragraph 00:14:45.375 --> 00:14:46.625 And fifth and finally, 00:14:48.250 --> 00:14:50.667 unlike the laws of physics, 00:14:51.833 --> 00:14:55.375 the laws of economics are a choice. 00:14:56.542 --> 00:14:58.226 Now, neoliberal economic theory 00:14:58.250 --> 00:15:03.268 has sold itself to you as unchangeable natural law, 00:15:03.292 --> 00:15:07.184 when in fact it's social norms and constructed narratives 00:15:07.208 --> 00:15:08.667 based on pseudoscience. 00:15:09.917 --> 00:15:13.434 If we truly want a more equitable, 00:15:13.458 --> 00:15:16.976 more prosperous and more sustainable economy, 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.726 if we want high-functioning democracies 00:15:19.750 --> 00:15:21.976 and civil society, 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.000 we must have a new economics. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:24.792 --> 00:15:26.768 And here's the good news: 00:15:26.792 --> 00:15:28.851 if we want a new economics, 00:15:28.875 --> 00:15:32.768 all we have to do is choose to have it. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:32.792 --> 00:15:34.059 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:34.083 --> 00:15:39.042 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:15:51.708 --> 00:15:54.875 Moderator: So Nick, I'm sure you get this question a lot. 00:15:56.333 --> 00:15:59.434 If you're so unhappy with the economic system, 00:15:59.458 --> 00:16:04.184 why not just give all your money away and join the 99 percent? NOTE Paragraph 00:16:04.208 --> 00:16:06.976 Nick Hanauer: Yeah, no, yes, right. 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:08.934 You get that a lot. You get that a lot. 00:16:08.958 --> 00:16:11.684 "If you care so much about taxes, why don't you pay more, 00:16:11.708 --> 00:16:14.601 and if you care so much about wages, why don't you pay more?" 00:16:14.625 --> 00:16:15.917 And I could do that. 00:16:17.083 --> 00:16:18.601 The problem is, 00:16:18.625 --> 00:16:20.434 it doesn't make that much difference, 00:16:20.458 --> 00:16:22.018 and I have discovered a strategy 00:16:22.042 --> 00:16:24.976 that works literally a hundred thousand times better -- NOTE Paragraph 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:26.268 Moderator: OK. NOTE Paragraph 00:16:26.292 --> 00:16:29.851 NH: which is to use my money to build narratives and to pass laws 00:16:29.875 --> 00:16:31.934 that will require all the other rich people 00:16:31.958 --> 00:16:34.018 to pay taxes and pay their workers better. NOTE Paragraph 00:16:34.042 --> 00:16:35.851 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:16:35.875 --> 00:16:37.226 And so, for example, 00:16:37.250 --> 00:16:40.601 the 15-dollar minimum wage that we cooked up 00:16:40.625 --> 00:16:42.601 has now affected 30 million workers. 00:16:42.625 --> 00:16:43.893 So that works better. NOTE Paragraph 00:16:43.917 --> 00:16:45.184 Moderator: That's great. 00:16:45.208 --> 00:16:47.851 If you change your mind, we'll find some takers for you. NOTE Paragraph 00:16:47.875 --> 00:16:50.333 NH: OK. Thank you. Moderator: Thank you very much.