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Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.64,0:00:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a lot of countries in the West,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.26,0:00:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dealing with your waste, you're kind of separated from it,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.93,0:00:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put it in the bin and it magically disappears.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.64,0:00:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone comes, it's all arranged for you. You don't have to think about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.36,0:00:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here, you have to make an extra effort, because there really isn't a system, so you have to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.36,0:00:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about it. You're confronted with it. So even though there's a really bad problem, there's a
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.22,0:00:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positive side, because you're forced to recognize the problem. You're forced
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.40,0:00:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have to deal with it. So looking at that side of it, it's really an opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.81,0:00:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people to kind of confront their
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.54,0:00:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their consumption, their pollution.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.31,0:01:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bali has a problem about every year
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.81,0:01:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our coastal, when it's the season once a year,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.90,0:01:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of plastic garbage landed in Kuta
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.95,0:01:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coastal. The government said this is because
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.86,0:01:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the sea tides. It's not about the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.08,0:01:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sea tides, from my opinion, it's about people still throw
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.14,0:01:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plastic garbage in the river or in the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.25,0:01:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,canals and they flow to the ocean, and the ocean will bring it back
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.39,0:01:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the land.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.89,0:03:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Waste management is a little bit the land of no one, no?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.22,0:03:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean it's a little bit, you can almost do
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.10,0:03:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever you want without really being caught. / But the garbage problem
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.94,0:04:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affects everybody, rich and poor, and if you can't deal with that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.73,0:04:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basic problem- pollution from your waste- then how are
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.07,0:04:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you going to deal with these large, more complex problems, like deforestation,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.12,0:04:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destruction of the coral reef, and climate change. I mean, it's like
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.95,0:04:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the easy one to handle. / If you're talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.75,0:04:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,garbage problem in Bali,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.60,0:04:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my perspective,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.81,0:04:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can debate about it, but actually
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.60,0:04:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the original
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.51,0:04:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture of people in Bali here, they're really
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.69,0:04:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clean, in their house. They wake up in the morning, like
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.69,0:04:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5:00 early, and already
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.28,0:04:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clean their house, clean their yard, and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.61,0:04:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before sunset also they're doing the same thing
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.41,0:04:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they clean it, and they throw all the garbage into
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.33,0:05:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the area in the household
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.93,0:05:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's called "tegalang", it means
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.46,0:05:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the area that you plant or grow anything, or
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.25,0:05:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you grow a pig there or something. There is a special area
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.43,0:05:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to put this garbage. But a long long time
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.73,0:05:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ago, let's say 25 or 30 years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.19,0:05:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of this garbage was organic
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.28,0:05:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Balinese, most
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.15,0:05:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Balinese, are still doing this culture,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.61,0:05:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only the material of the garbage has changed.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.70,0:05:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's plastic. / Waste is a man-made concept.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.42,0:05:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It didn't really exist, and it especially didn't exist before
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.13,0:05:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 50s and 60s. Everything was organic; we didn't have all this man-made
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.22,0:05:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,material. / Mostly things would have been packaged in banana leaves, so if you look at
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.26,0:05:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the offerings, your daily offerings which can be bought at the market,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.10,0:05:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are now being packaged in plastic bags, single use
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.66,0:06:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very thin, high density plastic that is used once
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.18,0:06:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then thrown away because it's so thin you can't really reuse it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.36,0:06:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would have all been packaged in banana leaves. But I also think that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.50,0:06:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably what's happened is the change in lifestyle - food also
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.20,0:06:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have been packaged in banana leaves - a change of lifestyle so that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.67,0:06:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now there's a lot more things available
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.88,0:06:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the market. In the past, I don't think, offerings
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.09,0:06:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for instance as an example, would have been so widely
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.72,0:06:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sold as they are nowadays. But so many people are working,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.14,0:06:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directly or indirectly, in the tourist industry,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.52,0:06:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that, you know, increasingly people are having to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.02,0:06:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy things which in the past they wouldn't have had to buy. / There really
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.48,0:06:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wasn't the culture of obsolescence that exists today.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.90,0:06:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Traditionally in Indonesia, and also Bali of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.78,0:06:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most people don't want to pay for waste disposal. They never had
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.29,0:07:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it. What they did with their waste was just throw it in the back, or burn it,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.46,0:07:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or throw it in the river, and those habits spill over into businesses.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.00,0:07:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People have a restaurant, or they have their hotel, and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.92,0:07:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they take the same approach. They're just like "get it away, get it away", and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.84,0:07:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've never thought about having to pay for this. It's always, you can just throw it on the open lot
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.58,0:07:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or throw it in the river, and it's taken care of. And it's further complicated now
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.43,0:07:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that you have a lot of large
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.83,0:07:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hotels that produce a huge amount of waste, and there's actually a lot of valuable stuff in that waste.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.100,0:07:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you have an informal scavenging sector that approach the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.45,0:07:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hotels and businesses and say, "We will provide waste services for you
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.12,0:07:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for free, and we'll buy the waste."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.83,0:07:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what they're really interested in, they're actually buying the waste, they're buying access to the recyclables.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.33,0:07:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're taking the stuff of value, but the stuff that has not value, guess where it goes:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.51,0:07:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the river, on the side of the road, wherever. You really get what you pay for
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.72,0:07:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you're selling you're waste or paying very little, you're going to have a dirty island.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.60,0:08:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for the tourism sector, obviously it's in their interest not to have a dirty island.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.77,0:08:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they have to make that leap and start realizing that if they want to have this thing
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.98,0:08:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken care of, the stuff that doesn't have value, you're going to have to pay for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.19,0:08:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also another problem that we have in Bali is that plastic waste is often burned.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.86,0:08:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this can create all sorts of problems. Respiratory
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.24,0:08:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,illnesses are the number one reported illness
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.29,0:08:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Bali. And if you're breathing in
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.46,0:08:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plastic waste that's being burned, particularly
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.25,0:08:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the speed that it's being burned, because it's not
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.28,0:08:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a high heat burning, which is less toxic, but it's
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.38,0:08:42.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usually a smoldering slow burning heap, so
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.12,0:08:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this can create all sorts of problems for human health and air quality.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.23,0:08:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean think of all these things we have that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.86,0:08:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are really pointless. A plastic bag, you use
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.78,0:08:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 15 minutes, and then it's around
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.90,0:09:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for your grand kids and their grand kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.66,0:09:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just insane.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.04,0:09:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not just plastic bags, there are some things you
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.20,0:09:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look around, from plastic straws to
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.81,0:09:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plastic bottles... I mean the idea that a plastic bottle consumes
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.64,0:09:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a typical 600ml plastic bottle
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.18,0:09:21.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs a quarter of it in oil
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.35,0:09:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to produce that bottle is just mind-boggling. When you're looking at that plastic bottle
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.10,0:09:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not buying water; you're buying crude oil.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.68,0:09:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, in Bali, people don't realize how many bottles
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.90,0:09:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are. Just water bottles, there are over 3 million
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.32,0:09:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bottle a day, and that doesn't include all the other kinds of beverages,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.99,0:09:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from your soda to your energy
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.57,0:09:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drinks and things like that. And even if you were able to recycle
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.62,0:09:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,90% of those, you would still have
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.72,0:09:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,300,000 of them being thrown in the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.64,0:10:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environment every day. It's not acceptable. It's nonsense.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.09,0:10:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Bali we produce 20,000
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.64,0:10:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cubic metres of waste everyday. And if we say that 15% of that is
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.14,0:10:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plastic, then that means we're producing
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.81,0:10:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3,000 cubic metres of plastic waste everyday.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.98,0:10:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that it's an incredibly valuable resource; it's mined,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.78,0:10:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oil is drilled from the ground and it creates this
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.95,0:10:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,product which is incredibly useful, so it should be rightly
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.89,0:10:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respected as a resource, and used and used and reused
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.96,0:10:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reused again and again and again. Our argument
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.75,0:10:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a campaign is not with plastic; it's about our consumption,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.72,0:10:43.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our habits around this disposable
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.09,0:10:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture that we've created. / I mean people come to Bali
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.31,0:10:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they've looked at the brochure; they've heard about it or read about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.52,0:10:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and seen stuff, and they have this image of what Bali is,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.06,0:10:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there have been a few times where they've been
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.98,0:11:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite shocked at what happens, what actually is the situation. There
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.97,0:11:07.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a story, where I was asked to help with this hotel, they had had a
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.22,0:11:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem with garbage that right in front of their hotel entrance, literally,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.100,0:11:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a huge garbage dump, and it would burn almost every
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.06,0:11:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day, and the smoke would go right through the hotel's lobby,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.80,0:11:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and through their restaurant and through to the beach, and it wasn't good for business,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.92,0:11:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you might suspect. So they had tried every, they had called
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.68,0:11:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every government office, I think even calling up to the Governor to help deal with this problem,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.43,0:11:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and nothing every happened. And so out of desperation they asked for help, and
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.64,0:11:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went down there and did a quick little survey,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.82,0:11:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, I was working for an NGO back then and they were willing to pay us to do it,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.82,0:11:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the time we thought quite a bit. If we knew how much money they were losing
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.62,0:11:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would have asked for more. But we did a survey of what was going on
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.22,0:11:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what we discovered was that most of the garbage burning in front of the hotel was their own,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.54,0:11:57.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they had created their own problem. And why that happened was they were
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.100,0:12:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,selling their garbage to the local trash guy
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.00,0:12:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was just taking what he wanted out of it and dumping everything in the traditional dump.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.01,0:12:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, the dump had been there before the hotel.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.35,0:12:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So no one in the hotel had bothered to go across the street and look, and they would have seen their logo.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.77,0:12:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would have seen it. And their reaction at first was, "well, let's fire
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.40,0:12:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this guy and get rid of him," and I said, no, that's not going to work. If you replace him
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.90,0:12:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going to be the same thing. The problem is not this guy dumping here, the problem
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.07,0:12:28.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is you're asking him to pay for this garbage.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.91,0:12:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should be paying him to take care of it properly, to dump it at
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.55,0:12:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the landfill; a novel idea! I mean they really
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.75,0:12:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were kind of accustomed to selling their garbage. It's completely crazy!
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.46,0:12:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they realized that they needed to change,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.34,0:12:49.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was easy to make the decision, because they were losing tens of thousands
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.51,0:12:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of dollars a day. I mean, they were losing a lot of money. So to switch over and pay
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.38,0:12:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a local guy a few hundred dollars a month to take care of it made a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.60,0:13:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of sense. / So every year, Bali has I think it's
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.30,0:13:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 million domestic tourists and 3 million international tourists.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.15,0:13:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now on top of that, we have a population that's just about reached
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.28,0:13:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 million. So you think of that in terms of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.87,0:13:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the resources that every tourist
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.71,0:13:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uses, and it's estimated that a tourist will consume 4 times the amount
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.37,0:13:24.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an average local person. What's happening with all
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.97,0:13:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rubbish they're producing? / There might be a dump nearby that's
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.42,0:13:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a river that's going out, and you're wondering why there's all this garbage in the ocean.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.22,0:13:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It might be coming from the places where you're staying,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.35,0:13:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or eating at. / One of the main
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.90,0:13:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proponents against the illegal dumping was always saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.44,0:13:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"they make the money in Ubud, and we get the trash."
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.95,0:13:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, maybe it's the location of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.66,0:13:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also the agreement and acceptance of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.50,0:14:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the past decision makers to allow the trash
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.04,0:14:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come in. So they said, "oh great, we have a place, and there's an agreement,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.00,0:14:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and look, our trash is actually helping you to build a road,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.72,0:14:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's going to connect it to land that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.51,0:14:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was otherwise inaccessible." So, I truly
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.39,0:14:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe that they felt there was a mutual benefit
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.44,0:14:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exchange happening. It only was until
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.52,0:14:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recently that they realized maybe this deal isn't so good,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.74,0:14:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put a stop to it, and
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.99,0:14:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kepala desa, the head of the village, was actually able to implement that,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.46,0:14:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and endorse it and make it happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.41,0:14:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the Bali government has already made a road map: "Bali go Clean and Green".
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.33,0:14:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the big agenda in our government;
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.59,0:14:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to make Bali more sustainable, more eco,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.76,0:14:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more green, you know. Actually if we see
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.64,0:15:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the road map, it's already good. I mean, the short term
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.43,0:15:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planning, the medium term planning, the long term planning, it's already good.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.90,0:15:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, the policy of this
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.16,0:15:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planning, is based on the 3 big main
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.15,0:15:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agenda. First, education, formal or informal.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.04,0:15:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the second: involve the private sector. I mean,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.74,0:15:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like companies, or the corporations that make
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.83,0:15:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business in Bali, because tourism is the most
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.17,0:15:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,main business, but also the garbage or the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.47,0:15:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pollution is also made by this big industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.80,0:15:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the third is
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.56,0:15:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involve the peoples' action. I mean,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.89,0:15:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the community action. / There's actually a lot of people out there that are
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.60,0:15:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerned about the problem, but they don't know what to do, and they're completely,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.04,0:15:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, frustrated with it. And when you start setting these examples
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.24,0:15:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they see that and then they come to you, and that's what's happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.16,0:16:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe there are lots of grassroots movements
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.38,0:16:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Bali, made by NGOs
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.46,0:16:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or made by just social local
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.42,0:16:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizations, already making a good movement about
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.97,0:16:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and making awareness to the locals
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.64,0:16:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on how to separate the garbage
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.56,0:16:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how to make compost from the organic
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.38,0:16:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,garbage, but right now, from
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.07,0:16:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my perspective, it's just a small movement.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.99,0:16:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think to make it effective,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.16,0:16:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should involve, or put social pressure on,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.16,0:16:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government to make a local law, like 'perdau' or 'awig awig'
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.37,0:16:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it more significant, to make a more significant change,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.05,0:16:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, to make it more effective and efficient.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.17,0:16:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We consulted with the community leaders, and we heard that they have
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.76,0:17:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big plans for their village to try and revitalize their economy here
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.35,0:17:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a cultural and ecotourism
Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.85,0:17:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program that just got launched about a year and a half ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.90,0:17:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In addition to helping them to kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.13,0:17:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formulate their tourism program, because they asked us for some
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.49,0:17:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advice from a foreigner perspective,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.13,0:17:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we also gave advice on the waste management stuff, which
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.66,0:17:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the community had been working on, some members of the community had been working on
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.17,0:17:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 15 years, because this illegal dump site
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.96,0:17:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started about 15 years ago, and there are people in the community that have
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.80,0:17:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protested against it since then.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.97,0:17:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Coincidentally, about
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.60,0:17:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a year after we started the project in this community, the illegal dump
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.94,0:17:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,site had been shut down after 15 years of operating,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.98,0:17:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which, for us, felt like a monumental success for the village
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.15,0:18:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to achieve that. It was really quite a big deal.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.99,0:18:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Still, it's not perfect right now, because
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.64,0:18:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the waste still has to be handled, but the decision to stop
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.33,0:18:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the incoming 14 trucks a day of waste
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.92,0:18:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from outside of this village that's not even theirs was a huge
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.97,0:18:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decision that we felt really proud of
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.43,0:18:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people for being able to achieve that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.84,0:18:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I definitely think it could be replicated in other villages.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.23,0:18:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course the joint shared vision and desire has to be there.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.19,0:18:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many times, people kind of throw their hands up in the air, and are like "what am I going to do?" but there are actually a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.44,0:18:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things you can do, and you have to start, maybe small in the beginning,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.20,0:18:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you have to start. / If you have a small organic farm
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.32,0:18:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your house, even a small one,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.21,0:18:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will effectively decrease
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.92,0:18:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the garbage problem. For example,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.13,0:19:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like my kitchen waste:
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.35,0:19:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more or less, like 70% is
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.10,0:19:09.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organic, so I have a compost box, I just put this
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.98,0:19:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,70% of organic [waste] into the compost, because this will go
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.02,0:19:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back again to nature, you know, back again to my
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.61,0:19:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegetable plot, and then the rest, 30%,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.59,0:19:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of this 30% not organic
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.69,0:19:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,garbage is recyclable,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.92,0:19:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has an economic value, too, because
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.17,0:19:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Bali we have 'pemulung'. Pemulung are like the garbage
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.71,0:19:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collectors. Sometimes they buy it from you,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.72,0:19:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from every house. They will travel around [saying], "berang bekas,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.68,0:19:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,berang bekas," meaning like "garbage, garbage," and then
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.52,0:19:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they will buy it. They have a really good value for plastic, for bottles, like
Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.67,0:19:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beer bottles, for paper, for
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.40,0:20:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aluminium, metal, steel, copper, they have
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.86,0:20:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a really really good price to buy it from the people,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.20,0:20:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most of this 30% not organic
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.54,0:20:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,garbage from my kitchen is recyclable, so you can
Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.37,0:20:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sell it, or just give it, to this garbage collector,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.01,0:20:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this 25% will be going
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.59,0:20:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to recycle, to be something good, new goods, and
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.30,0:20:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so only 5% is your actual
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.55,0:20:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,garbage, what we call really garbage. This is
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.81,0:20:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the soft plastic material, like biscuits,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.77,0:20:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'kemasan' biscuit packaging, or plastic bags.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.48,0:20:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, from my opinion, if there's only
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.44,0:20:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5% garbage going to the dumping place because we cannot do anything with it
Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.45,0:20:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the dumping place would not
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.54,0:20:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be so full so quickly. / So I think the most practical way now
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.21,0:21:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we in Bali don't have a waste management facility
Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.37,0:21:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet, a proper one, is to do waste prevention: each household
Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.42,0:21:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can do that, like bringing your own bag, bringing your own
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.38,0:21:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,container, bringing your own bottle, so you don't
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.22,0:21:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,add more waste. I know it looks just small.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.42,0:21:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But it's only one plastic bag!" But
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.86,0:21:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, I worked with a group of students once, and we asked them
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.03,0:21:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to observe how many plastic bags entered the household
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.82,0:21:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each [day], and one student came
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.70,0:21:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "5 plastic bags". Ok, let's calculate.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.54,0:21:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a month, that will be 150.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.42,0:21:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how many people, how many families, more or less
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.10,0:21:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your banjar (village)? She said, "55". That means, in a year,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.34,0:21:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be more than like 10,000 plastic bags. That's a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.39,0:21:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This happened to me, because when we're talking about plastic, for example,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.56,0:21:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the big problem in Bali, I tried to live a one
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.69,0:22:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,month "plastic diet".
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.61,0:22:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We call it "plastic diet". Just to get
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.32,0:22:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the data about how difficult it would be to live without,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.03,0:22:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to minimize as much as possible using plastic.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.94,0:22:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.33,0:22:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We go shopping, we just bring our own bags,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.46,0:22:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our own carrier, so it's not so difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.34,0:22:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For most of our customers, we provide them with a monthly recycling report.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.64,0:22:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they get a sheet of paper that says, ok these are the things that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.19,0:22:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you were able to recycle: this much aluminum, this much plastic bottles, this much
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.89,0:22:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this other plastic, paper, blah, blah, blah. And then we go down the list of other
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.61,0:22:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that were man made but weren't recyclable.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.69,0:22:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, styrofoam, or some hazardous stuff. And then we go down into
Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.37,0:22:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the organics and explain to them the food waste we collected and all that, so they have a record
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.33,0:23:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what actually they are producing. And at first,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.86,0:23:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, they're like, "oh, that's cute, that's nice, whatever," but after a while, when they look
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.50,0:23:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back and they see, over 6 months or a year, they realize
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.63,0:23:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually how much waste they produce. And in some cases, it's quite
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.60,0:23:15.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shocking. So it's kind of a wake-up call, and it makes them realize that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.35,0:23:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, they are polluters; they have to think about their impacts.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.06,0:23:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think tourists have an enormous responsibility for
Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.77,0:23:27.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the impacts that they create on any country that they visit.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.90,0:23:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They contribute a huge amount to the amount of waste that needs
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.40,0:23:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be dealt with, so, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.41,0:23:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can make a positive impact by perhaps the hotels that they
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.62,0:23:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choose to stay at, making sure, asking, "ok, what's your
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.62,0:23:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environmental policy? What do you do with your waste? I want to make sure
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.38,0:23:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the waste that I'm creating at this hotel, or what the hotel is creating
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.76,0:23:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is ending up at the right place, not going and polluting the rivers
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.14,0:23:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and going into the ocean and actually degrading the whole
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.72,0:24:03.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tourist experience." The whole point of going to a place
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.27,0:24:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a holiday, a nice holiday, is to relax, maybe enjoy the sea, but if there's
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.82,0:24:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bunch of trash in it, then obviously it's not really
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.52,0:24:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you came here for. So you can ask your hotel what they do with their stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.07,0:24:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can, before coming here, make a pledge
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.58,0:24:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support a local organization that's maybe working to support
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.83,0:24:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the environment, to keep the place that you're coming to visit beautiful and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.29,0:24:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,functioning, and you can donate to those organization, those
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.38,0:24:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-profits, and support projects like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.96,0:24:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, on a larger scale,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.01,0:24:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to see the places,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.75,0:24:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tourist destinations, perhaps saying that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.30,0:24:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1% of money that you spend on hotel
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.31,0:24:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or food or airline tickets goes to
Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.42,0:24:58.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supporting an environmental fund, or a green fund. There are places
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.53,0:25:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have done that effectively, like Gili Trawangan, off the
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.12,0:25:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coast of Lombok, has the Gili Ecotrust, so
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.46,0:25:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, just a small amount, I think it's a dollar per day per tourist goes to
Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.21,0:25:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that fund, and that helps to do the waste management
Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.17,0:25:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and addresses different environmental issues. / Everyone wants
Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.25,0:25:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be green, and basically the first phase of that is you have some pioneers
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.02,0:25:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are being green, and then everyone jumps on the bandwagon and says they're green, and
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.64,0:25:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more often than not, unfortunately a lot of people are just saying they're green.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.10,0:25:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They might have good intentions, others might not, but it's just a marketing element, and they say "We're green!"
Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.19,0:25:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or "We recycle, we do that," but as people,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.28,0:25:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as customers and people understand that it's not enough just to say
Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.24,0:25:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, they have to prove it, they have to explain what they do. And even
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.79,0:25:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, just asking questions and that, it adds up,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.33,0:25:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it helps. / At the top of any waste management
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.38,0:25:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plan should always be prevetion
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.59,0:26:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first, then reduction, and then you start looking at, ok,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.09,0:26:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well the waste is already there, what can we do with it? Can we reuse it? Ok, if we can't
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.89,0:26:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reuse it, can we recycle it? But it's got to be in that
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.96,0:26:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pyramid of priorities. / So what the coalition is doing right now
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.15,0:26:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to encourage business to do waste prevention, we
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.44,0:26:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,call it Plastic Detox Bali. Our community, right
Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.28,0:26:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, people right now, are addicted to plastic. They
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.99,0:26:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tend to freak out, like "WHAT? No plastic allowed??"
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.54,0:26:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to keep reminding, we're not anti-plastic;
Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.50,0:26:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need plastic. But you need to learn how to use it wisely.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.49,0:26:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, to help them
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.22,0:26:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ease this addiction,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.26,0:26:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess, Plastic Detox Bali.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.57,0:26:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a series of actions that business can
Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.01,0:26:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take. Like first, we ask them not to provide plastic bags
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.11,0:27:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for free. / What I think should be done on Bali,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.78,0:27:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and perhaps in the rest of Indonesia, but certainly in Bali, is
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.41,0:27:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first introduce a bag tax. Make people pay
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.01,0:27:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for it. Pay for the plastic bag. Pay for the privilege.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.51,0:27:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pay for the mounting external costs, because
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.13,0:27:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then hopefully people will realize this is not free. People think it's free now
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.80,0:27:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they think it's modern. They think free, modernity, nice, ya? "Asik, dong?"
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.18,0:27:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not. Because what about the cost of
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.22,0:27:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cleaning it up over the long term. What about the health costs incurred by people who inhale
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.14,0:27:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dioxins created by burning it. What about the people who eat it
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.44,0:27:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their fish? What are the public health costs?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.20,0:27:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, all these costs. I mean, we're talking millions and millions and millions
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.16,0:27:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of dollars. So you want to make waste management, or you want to do
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.33,0:27:53.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,waste reduction? Which one is more cost efficient, cost effective?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.75,0:27:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For a government that's struggling, that can't even provide water to the residents in
Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.54,0:28:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Denpasar, there are so many other crises that are impending on this
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.09,0:28:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,island, you know, plastic should be the easiest thing. Just put a bag tax, and then
Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.68,0:28:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people already realize, there's already public support, "hey,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.89,0:28:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bags are expensive," then you do a bag ban. Ban it.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.14,0:28:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ban the single use plastic bag. Ireland? 92% reduction in
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.97,0:28:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 weeks!!! They just banned it outright, and it's possible
Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.63,0:28:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a place like Bali: it's an island. You could just ban the bag.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.82,0:28:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people would just have to learn to deal with it. You learn.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.74,0:28:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first or second time you go to the store and you don't have a bag, and you're either
Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.08,0:28:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forced to buy a bag or you've got to go home and get one, you won't forget again.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.00,0:28:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, instant behavior shift. Instant.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.71,0:28:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people will grumble, and [complain], but grow up!
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.46,0:28:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to be adults about the environment we live in. / Students are the
Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.34,0:28:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next leaders to come in the very near future, so
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.81,0:28:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need to be able to have access to
Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.23,0:29:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of information and education to be made aware.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.15,0:29:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And often times, not just in Indonesia, but in many
Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.82,0:29:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countries, the school curriculum is outdated. It's not relevant to
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.63,0:29:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the current issues that we're facing in modern times, so
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.21,0:29:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to infuse the perhaps outdated
Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.66,0:29:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or "has-room-to-grow" curriculum,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.25,0:29:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we feel that would be really effective, and get the kids excited.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.75,0:29:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started to select schools in different areas, many of them were in
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.55,0:29:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit more remote areas, where they didn't really have any
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.17,0:29:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collection service, so typically the school would be burning
Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.06,0:29:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the waste, or throwing it in the river at the back. We had very good
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.27,0:29:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discussions in a high school, in which, without
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.86,0:29:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanting to say what was the solution, we were asking,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.70,0:29:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What do you think should be done, what can you do
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.24,0:29:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reduce waste in your daily situation?"
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.87,0:29:59.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And without having to say anything, because we had refreshments
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.87,0:30:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around that were served by the school, students went straight away,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.63,0:30:07.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This can take away, this we can reintroduce the banana leaf,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.100,0:30:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't use that and that."
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.80,0:30:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think actually the high schools
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.84,0:30:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be a pretty good target. / A lot of programs, they don't need a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.98,0:30:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money, but they need some. And if you could help
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.36,0:30:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the fundraising efforts for getting these programs off the ground
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.32,0:30:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or sustaining them, it would be a huge, huge help.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.78,0:30:35.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you think about it on that global scale,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.99,0:30:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what will future communities do?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.33,0:30:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The solution for me, is back again
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.88,0:30:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the government, because
Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.09,0:30:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people, most of the people here, already agree about
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.93,0:31:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the garbage separation or the recycle, all the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.35,0:31:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slogans, like "Reduce, reuse, recycle"
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.63,0:31:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or "Bali go clean and green".
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.91,0:31:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone already agrees on those slogans. But what we're talking about now
Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.66,0:31:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is after the slogan, or after the
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.75,0:31:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea, something that you wrote, the words
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.45,0:31:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to do the action right now, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.58,0:31:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what we're waiting for now, we as the grassroots movement, or
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.04,0:31:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people still doing what we believe it, what we're waiting for
Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.97,0:31:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the government law to support this action.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.30,0:31:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To institute that change on such a massive
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.93,0:31:43.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scale, wow, I mean, the government
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.65,0:31:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs to intervene, and it needs to intervene from the top
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.02,0:31:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the way down to the village.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.23,0:31:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every level, you know, and the way, with regional autonomy in Indonesia,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.16,0:31:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ya, the Governor can say it should be like this, but then the Bupatis
Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.20,0:32:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to follow suit. They need to care; they need to really care.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.78,0:32:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think now the government still doesn't have any serious concern about the garbage
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.58,0:32:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I do believe, especially the Balinese
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.75,0:32:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,local government, because government in Bali is quite
Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.88,0:32:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unique, we have a formal government and an informal government, and they are both equally strong,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.72,0:32:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,50-50. So if both these governments
Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.52,0:32:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a really serious concern about the garbage or waste
Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.90,0:32:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issue, it would be socialized
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.65,0:32:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effectively in the public. We, people here,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.28,0:32:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would support 100%. So make it real.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.85,0:33:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Refuse plastic bags, refuse plastic bags,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.55,0:33:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plastic, plastic, plastic,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.17,0:33:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refuse plastic bags. Bali is a beautiful island,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.64,0:33:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plastic bags are giving it a scaly skin,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.64,0:33:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's play music, and support a beautiful Bali without plastic."