[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.52,0:00:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[marker squeaking on board] Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.33,0:00:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Ken Robinson) Every country\Non Earth, at the moment, Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.08,0:00:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is reforming public education. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.40,0:00:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are two reasons for it. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.17,0:00:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first of them is economic. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.80,0:00:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are trying to work out Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.64,0:00:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we educate our children\Nto take their place Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.36,0:00:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the economies\Nof the 21st century? Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.28,0:00:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we do that? Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.80,0:00:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though we can't anticipate Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.68,0:00:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the economy will look like \Nat the end of next week, Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.12,0:00:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the recent turmoil\Nis demonstrating. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.56,0:00:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we do that? Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.20,0:00:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second, though, is cultural. Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.68,0:00:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every country on Earth,\Non earth is trying to figure out Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.09,0:00:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we educate our children Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.68,0:00:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they have a sense\Nof cultural identity, Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.56,0:00:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so that we can pass on the\Ncultural genes of our communities, Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.72,0:00:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while being part of the\Nprocess of globalization? Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.08,0:01:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we square that circle? Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.04,0:01:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is they're\Ntrying to meet the future Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.32,0:01:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by doing what\Nthey did in the past. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.60,0:01:08.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on the way, they're\Nalienating millions of kids Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.20,0:01:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who don't see any purpose\Nin going to school. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.96,0:01:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we went to school, Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.64,0:01:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were kept there with a story, Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.96,0:01:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is, if you worked hard\Nand did well, Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.12,0:01:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got a college degree, \Nyou would have a job. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.44,0:01:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our kids don't believe that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.19,0:01:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're right not to,\Nby the way. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.60,0:01:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're better having\Na degree than not, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.56,0:01:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not a guarantee anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.48,0:01:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And particularly not\Nif the route to it Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.81,0:01:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,marginalizes\Nmost of the things Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.44,0:01:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you think are\Nimportant about yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.28,0:01:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people say we\Nhave to raise standards, Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.84,0:01:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if this is a breakthrough. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.40,0:01:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, like, really,\Nyes we should. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.00,0:01:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would you lower them? Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.24,0:01:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.73,0:01:42.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't come\Nacross an argument Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.12,0:01:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that persuades me\Nof lowering them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.00,0:01:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But raising them,\Nof course we should raise them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.41,0:01:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.64,0:01:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the current\Nsystem of education Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.40,0:01:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was designed and conceived Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.68,0:01:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and structured for a different age. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.04,0:02:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was conceived in the intellectual\Nculture of the Enlightenment. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.16,0:02:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the economic circumstances\Nof the Industrial Revolution. Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.24,0:02:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before the middle \Nof the 19th century, Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.96,0:02:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were no systems\Nof public education. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.37,0:02:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not really. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.24,0:02:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you could get\Neducated by Jesuits, Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.92,0:02:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, if you had the money, Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.72,0:02:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but public education, \Npaid for from taxation, Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.88,0:02:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compulsory to everybody and\Nfree at the point of delivery, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.44,0:02:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was a revolutionary idea. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.72,0:02:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many people objected to it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.72,0:02:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said it's not possible\Nfor many street kids, Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.52,0:02:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working class children,\Nto benefit from public education. Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.04,0:02:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're incapable of\Nlearning to read and write, Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.76,0:02:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why are we spending\Ntime on this? Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.08,0:02:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there's also built into it\Na whole series of assumptions Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.36,0:02:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about social structure and capacity. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.80,0:02:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was driven by an economic\Nimperative of the time, Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.96,0:02:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but running right through it Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.44,0:02:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an intellectual model\Nof the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.48,0:02:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which was essentially the\NEnlightenment view of intelligence. Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.00,0:02:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That real intelligence consists\Nin this capacity Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.16,0:02:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a certain type of\Ndeductive reasoning, Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.24,0:02:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the knowledge\Nof the classics, originally. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.76,0:03:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we've come to think\Nof as academic ability. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.88,0:03:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is deep in the gene\Npool of public education, Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.76,0:03:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are really\Ntwo types of people: Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.32,0:03:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,academic and non-academic; Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.16,0:03:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smart people and non-smart people. Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.36,0:03:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the consequence of that Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.70,0:03:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that many brilliant people\Nthink they're not, Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.96,0:03:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they've been judged against\Nthis particular view of the mind. Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.76,0:03:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we have twin pillars,\Neconomic and intellectual. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.40,0:03:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my view is Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.20,0:03:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this model has caused chaos\Nin many people's lives. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.19,0:03:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been great for some. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.80,0:03:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There have been people that\Nhave benefited wonderfully from it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.04,0:03:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But most people have not. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.92,0:03:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead they suffer this. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.65,0:03:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the modern epidemic, Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.16,0:03:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's as misplaced, Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.76,0:03:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's as fictitious. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.72,0:03:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the plague of ADHD. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.80,0:03:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, this is a map of the\Ninstance of ADHD in America, Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.84,0:03:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or prescriptions for ADHD. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.04,0:03:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't mistake me, Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.88,0:03:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't mean to say\Nthere is no such thing Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.92,0:03:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Attention Deficit Disorder. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.92,0:04:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not qualified to say\Nif there is such a thing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.24,0:04:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that a great majority\Nof psychologists, Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.32,0:04:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pediatricians think\Nthere is such a thing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.16,0:04:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's still a matter of debate. Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.28,0:04:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I do know, for a fact, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.28,0:04:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it's not an epidemic. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.44,0:04:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These kids are being medicated Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.24,0:04:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as routinely as we had\Nour tonsils taken out. Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.96,0:04:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on the same whimsical basis, Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.40,0:04:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for the same reason -\Nmedical fashion. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.04,0:04:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our children are living in the most\Nintensely stimulating period Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.64,0:04:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the history of the earth. Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.76,0:04:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're being besieged\Nwith information, Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.16,0:04:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and force their attention\Nfrom every platform, computers, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.36,0:04:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from iPhones, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.56,0:04:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from advertising holdings, Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.56,0:04:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from hundreds of television channels. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.00,0:04:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're penalizing them now\Nfor getting distracted. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.76,0:04:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From what? Boring stuff, Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.04,0:04:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at school, for the most part. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.60,0:04:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems to me it's not\Na coincidence, totally, Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.64,0:04:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the instance of ADHD\Nhas risen in parallel Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.88,0:05:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the growth of\Nstandardized testing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.52,0:05:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, these kids are being\Ngiven Ritalin and Adderall, Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.16,0:05:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all manner of things, Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.36,0:05:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often quite dangerous drugs, Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.36,0:05:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get them focused\Nand calm them down. Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.36,0:05:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But according to this, Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.48,0:05:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Attention Deficit Disorder increases Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.48,0:05:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you travel east\Nacross the country. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.04,0:05:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People start losing interest\Nin Oklahoma Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.20,0:05:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter]. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.96,0:05:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can hardly think\Nstraight in Arkansas Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.88,0:05:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter]. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.08,0:05:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by the time\Nthey get to Washington, Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.32,0:05:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have lost it completely. Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.20,0:05:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are separate\Nreasons for that, I believe Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.32,0:05:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter]. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.04,0:05:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a fictitious epidemic. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.72,0:05:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you think of it, the arts, Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.20,0:05:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't say this\Nexclusively of the arts. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.04,0:05:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's also true\Nof science and of maths. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.32,0:05:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But let me, I say about\Nthe arts particularly Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.36,0:05:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are the victims Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.96,0:05:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this mentality currently,\Nparticularly. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.64,0:05:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The arts especially address the\Nidea of aesthetic experience. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.20,0:06:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And aesthetic experience Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.04,0:06:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one in which your senses\Nare operating at their peak. Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.64,0:06:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you are present\Nin the current moment. Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.72,0:06:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're resonating with\Nthe excitement of this thing Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.44,0:06:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're experiencing. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.08,0:06:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you are fully alive. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.52,0:06:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And anesthetic is when\Nyou shut your senses off Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.36,0:06:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and deaden yourself\Nto what's happening. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.32,0:06:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of these drugs are that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.20,0:06:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're getting our children through\Neducation by anesthetizing them. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.08,0:06:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think we should be\Ndoing the exact opposite. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.60,0:06:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We shouldn't be\Nputting them asleep, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.80,0:06:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should be waking them up Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.32,0:06:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what they have\Ninside of themselves. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.56,0:06:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the model we have is this, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.24,0:06:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's, I believe, we have\Na system of education Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.32,0:06:41.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is modeled on the\Ninterests of industrialism, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.88,0:06:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the image of it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.60,0:06:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll give you a couple of examples. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.76,0:06:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Schools are still pretty much\Norganized on factory lines - Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.40,0:06:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ringing bells, separate facilities, Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.28,0:06:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specialized into separate subjects. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.36,0:06:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We still educate children by batches. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.28,0:07:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we put them\Nthrough the system by age group. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.28,0:07:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we do that? Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.64,0:07:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, why is there\Nthis assumption Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.68,0:07:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the most important thing\Nkids have in common Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.60,0:07:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is how old they are? Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.76,0:07:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's like the most\Nimportant thing about them Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.24,0:07:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is their date of manufacture. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.16,0:07:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I know kids who are\Nmuch better than other kids Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.04,0:07:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same age in different\Ndisciplines, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.56,0:07:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or at different times of the day, Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.56,0:07:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or better in smaller groups\Nthen in large groups, Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.52,0:07:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or sometimes they\Nwant to be on their own. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.40,0:07:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're interested in\Nthe model of learning, Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.84,0:07:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't start from this\Nproduction line mentality. Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.44,0:07:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are, it's essentially\Nabout conformity. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.44,0:07:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And increasingly it's about\Nthat Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.64,0:07:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you look at the growth \Nof standardized testing Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.20,0:07:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and standardized curricula. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.60,0:07:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's about standardization. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.72,0:07:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe we've got to go in\Nthe exact opposite direction. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.96,0:07:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I mean about\Nchanging the paradigm. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.36,0:07:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a great study done\Nrecently of divergent thinking, Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.60,0:07:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published a couple of years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.88,0:07:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Divergent thinking isn't\Nthe same thing as creativity. Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.52,0:07:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I define creativity as the process Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.24,0:07:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of having original ideas \Nthat have value. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.64,0:07:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Divergent thinking\Nisn't a synonym. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.32,0:08:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's an essential\Ncapacity for creativity. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.12,0:08:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the ability to see lots of\Npossible answers to a question, Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.12,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of possible ways of\Ninterpreting a question. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To think, what Edward de Bono\Nwould probably call laterally. Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.60,0:08:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To think, not just in linear\Nor convergent ways. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.28,0:08:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To see multiple answers, not one. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.76,0:08:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I mean, there are tests for this. Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.76,0:08:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, one kind of\Ncod example would be, Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.48,0:08:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people might be asked to say Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.08,0:08:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many uses can you\Nthink of for a paper clip. Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.28,0:08:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those routine questions. Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.52,0:08:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most people might\Ncome with 10 or 15. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.88,0:08:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who are good at\Nthis might come up with 200. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.72,0:08:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they do that by saying, Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.52,0:08:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, could the paper clip be turned,\Nand a foot tall, Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.64,0:08:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be made out\Nof foam rubber. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.32,0:08:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, like, does it have to\Nbe a paper clip as we know it, Jim. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.32,0:08:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, there are tests for this. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.08,0:08:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they gave them to 1,500 people. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.12,0:08:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's in a book called\NBreak Point and Beyond. Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.12,0:08:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on the protocol of the test, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.40,0:08:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you scored \Nabove a certain level, Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.16,0:08:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'd be considered to be a\Ngenius at divergent thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.48,0:08:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay? Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.36,0:08:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, my question to you is, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.76,0:09:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what percentage of\Nthe people tested, Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.80,0:09:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the 1500, Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.40,0:09:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scored at genius level\Nfor divergent thinking? Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.20,0:09:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to know one\Nmore thing about them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.40,0:09:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These were kindergarten children. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.00,0:09:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what you think? Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.92,0:09:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What percentage at genius level? Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.96,0:09:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience member) 80. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.08,0:09:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Ken Robinson) You think 80, okay. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.40,0:09:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,98%. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.44,0:09:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, the thing about this was,\Nit was a longitudinal study. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.60,0:09:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they retested the same\Nchildren five years later. Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.88,0:09:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Age of eight to ten. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.84,0:09:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think? Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.40,0:09:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,50? Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.64,0:09:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They retested them again, Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.56,0:09:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five years later, \Nages 13 to 15. Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.48,0:09:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see a trend here,\Ncan't you Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.96,0:09:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.48,0:09:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, this tells an interesting story. Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.36,0:09:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you could have\Nimagined it going the other way, Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.44,0:09:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couldn't you. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.96,0:09:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start off not being very good, Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.32,0:09:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you get better \Nas you get older. Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.00,0:09:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this shows two things. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.08,0:09:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is, we all have this capacity. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.64,0:09:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And two, it mostly deteriorates. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.20,0:09:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, a lot of things have\Nhappened to these kids Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.72,0:10:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as they've grown up, a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.08,0:10:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one of the most important\Nthings that happened to them, Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.80,0:10:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am convinced,\Nis that by now, Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.32,0:10:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've become educated. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.60,0:10:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They know, they spent 10 years at\Nschool being told there's one answer. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.20,0:10:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's at the back and don't look. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.28,0:10:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And don't copy, Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.64,0:10:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's cheating. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.32,0:10:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, outside schools that's\Ncalled collaboration, you know. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.84,0:10:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But inside schools... Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.20,0:10:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this isn't\Nbecause teachers want it this way, Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.36,0:10:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just because it happens that way. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.68,0:10:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's because it's in the gene\Npool of education. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.88,0:10:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to think differently\Nabout human capacity. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.60,0:10:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to get over this old conception\Nof academic, non-academic, Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.40,0:10:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abstract, theoretical, vocational, Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.64,0:10:44.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see it for what it is: a myth. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.03,0:10:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Secondly, we have to recognize Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.66,0:10:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that most great learning\Nhappens in groups. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.88,0:10:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That collaboration\Nis the stuff of growth. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.92,0:10:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we atomize people and separate\Nthem and judge them separately, Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.36,0:10:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we form a kind of disjunction\Nbetween them Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.04,0:11:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their natural learning environment. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.16,0:11:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And thirdly, it's crucially about\Nthe culture of our institutions, Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.72,0:11:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the habits of the institution, Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.44,0:11:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the habitats that they occupy.