0:00:03.280,0:00:04.607 Belaying devices. 0:00:04.607,0:00:07.284 There are so many different[br]belaying devices 0:00:07.284,0:00:11.280 nowadays on the market and in my hands. 0:00:11.280,0:00:13.440 And after this video you will be able 0:00:13.440,0:00:14.960 to pick any of them. 0:00:14.960,0:00:16.640 Not from my hands. 0:00:16.640,0:00:19.756 And you will know how it works [br]and how to use it. 0:00:19.756,0:00:23.661 So first of all, a belaying device[br]is simply a mechanism 0:00:23.661,0:00:24.975 which allows to control 0:00:24.975,0:00:26.960 the friction between your hand 0:00:26.960,0:00:28.320 and the climber. 0:00:28.320,0:00:29.519 Alright. 0:00:29.519,0:00:33.370 So here I hang and here I have almost 0:00:33.370,0:00:38.100 60 kilograms of force pulling [br]on this strand of the rope. 0:00:38.100,0:00:40.719 However for me to hold that 0:00:40.719,0:00:45.760 I'm only using about 6 to 7 [br]kilograms of force 0:00:45.760,0:00:47.440 on the brake side of the rope. 0:00:47.440,0:00:50.480 However if I would start raising 0:00:50.480,0:00:54.079 my brake hand up 0:00:54.079,0:00:56.670 the force needed to hold that 0:00:56.670,0:01:00.539 goes to 9 kilograms of force... 0:01:00.539,0:01:02.640 10... 0:01:02.640,0:01:05.120 12... 0:01:07.280,0:01:10.280 15... 0:01:17.040,0:01:21.040 So my max was around 25 kilograms of force 0:01:21.040,0:01:23.840 with two hands in this position. 0:01:23.840,0:01:27.094 That means that in this position [br]at this angle 0:01:27.094,0:01:30.140 I can not even hold my own weight[br]with two hands. 0:01:30.140,0:01:32.887 There is no even talking about one hand. 0:01:32.887,0:01:35.352 So now let's see how much[br]assistance I will get 0:01:35.352,0:01:39.110 if my rope strands are completely [br]parallel to each other. 0:01:39.110,0:01:42.059 So I will start pulling up 0:01:42.059,0:01:46.439 as hard as i can. 0:01:56.079,0:01:58.399 And so the answer is almost nothing. 0:01:58.399,0:01:59.943 Now to explain how that works 0:01:59.943,0:02:02.608 since there is so many [br]different belaying devices 0:02:02.608,0:02:05.972 I'm gonna group all of them [br]into different categories. 0:02:05.972,0:02:08.500 First one is tubular style devices. 0:02:08.500,0:02:11.590 That many mistakenly call them reverso. 0:02:11.590,0:02:14.440 Which is only this device - [br]Petzl Reverso. 0:02:14.440,0:02:18.480 Or ATC which is this Black Diamond ATC. 0:02:18.480,0:02:21.459 While Mammut calls this [br]Alpine Belaying Device. Simple. 0:02:21.459,0:02:25.450 So with tubes the more[br]I move my brake hand down 0:02:25.450,0:02:30.011 the more it squeezes the rope between [br]the carabiner and belaying device. 0:02:30.011,0:02:34.009 And also tubes have [br]a little groove in front of them. 0:02:34.009,0:02:37.089 Which even further pinches on the rope. 0:02:37.089,0:02:40.574 Plus as I pull down on the rope[br]it tilts the device 0:02:40.574,0:02:43.840 which creates extra angles [br]and extra friction. 0:02:43.840,0:02:46.380 So as we saw in my previous experiment 0:02:46.380,0:02:50.959 if my hand is at the [br]level of the belaying device or higher 0:02:50.959,0:02:53.120 the device creates very little friction. 0:02:53.120,0:02:55.257 So if the climber would fall 0:02:55.257,0:02:58.800 while my hand is [br]in this position or higher 0:02:58.800,0:03:01.365 there is a high chance [br]that my hand would simply 0:03:01.365,0:03:04.080 get sucked into the belaying device. 0:03:04.959,0:03:08.680 I got my hand pinched... 0:03:19.280,0:03:21.290 And then maybe i will hurt my hand 0:03:21.290,0:03:23.920 And let go off the rope. 0:03:23.920,0:03:25.920 So if you want to see how my hand is 0:03:25.920,0:03:27.750 getting sucked into belaying device 0:03:27.750,0:03:29.800 I already made a video about that. 0:03:29.800,0:03:32.908 Also worth mentioning is that [br]rope thickness or diameter 0:03:32.908,0:03:35.175 has a huge effect on how easily 0:03:35.175,0:03:37.610 the rope will go through belaying device. 0:03:37.610,0:03:39.519 And every belaying device has a 0:03:39.519,0:03:42.239 recommended range of rope thicknesses 0:03:42.239,0:03:44.580 which you can find [br]somewhere in the manuals 0:03:44.580,0:03:46.600 or sometimes on the device itself. 0:03:46.600,0:03:49.120 And this brings us to advantages 0:03:49.120,0:03:50.993 of tubular style devices. 0:03:50.993,0:03:55.193 First of all they work better with [br]wider range of rope diameters. 0:03:55.193,0:03:58.475 All the way from super thick gym ropes 0:03:58.475,0:04:01.000 to ultra skinny twin ropes. 0:04:01.000,0:04:03.509 On contrast if you would take a GriGri 0:04:03.509,0:04:06.058 it says that it's optimized to work 0:04:06.058,0:04:09.867 from 8.9 to 10.5 millimeters ropes. 0:04:09.867,0:04:11.680 But from my experience 0:04:11.680,0:04:14.319 anything from 10 millimeters and above 0:04:14.319,0:04:16.120 doesn't work that well anymore. 0:04:16.120,0:04:19.991 Yeah, there is this older GriGri[br]which works better with thicker ropes. 0:04:19.991,0:04:22.800 But that one doesn't work well [br]with thin ropes. 0:04:22.800,0:04:25.689 Next, tubes are super lightweight. 0:04:25.689,0:04:27.840 And they allow you to belay with two ropes 0:04:27.840,0:04:29.599 either double ropes or twin ropes. 0:04:29.599,0:04:31.981 And if you don't know[br]what's a double or twin rope 0:04:31.981,0:04:35.000 you should watch[br]my master class on the ropes. 0:04:35.000,0:04:37.562 Also with tubes you can make a soft catch 0:04:37.562,0:04:39.170 without moving yourself. 0:04:39.170,0:04:42.720 By allowing the rope [br]to slip through the device. 0:04:42.720,0:04:46.720 And in general tubes don't catch as hard 0:04:46.720,0:04:49.239 because there is always [br]a little bit of slippage 0:04:49.239,0:04:51.840 which reduces the peak forces. 0:04:51.840,0:04:54.240 Which might be very beneficial[br]for trad climbers. 0:04:54.240,0:04:56.560 Since it reduces the chance 0:04:56.560,0:04:59.080 that the pieces of the gear will fall out. 0:04:59.080,0:05:02.409 And finally tubes have [br]this loop at the top. 0:05:02.409,0:05:05.515 And that allows you [br]to set this device in a guide mode 0:05:05.515,0:05:08.693 in which you can even belay [br]two following climbers 0:05:08.693,0:05:13.440 coming up on top rope simultaneously 0:05:13.440,0:05:16.231 simon... simultaneously. 0:05:16.231,0:05:18.364 and all of that are the reasons 0:05:18.364,0:05:21.370 why tubes are still very commonly used 0:05:21.370,0:05:24.438 in traditional or alpine [br]or multi-pitch scenarios. 0:05:24.438,0:05:27.680 However none of that is really useful 0:05:27.680,0:05:30.258 if you're just doing [br]single pitch sport climbing. 0:05:30.258,0:05:32.399 And the biggest disadvantage of tubes 0:05:32.399,0:05:34.300 is of course that they don't lock 0:05:34.300,0:05:37.600 meaning if you would let go the rope. 0:05:37.600,0:05:39.262 Which by the way brings us 0:05:39.262,0:05:41.000 to the main rule of belaying. 0:05:41.000,0:05:43.520 If you are in need of number two 0:05:43.520,0:05:46.479 and you have a choice to poop your pants 0:05:46.479,0:05:50.400 or to let go the brake side of the rope - 0:05:50.400,0:05:52.059 you poop your pants! 0:05:52.059,0:05:55.889 Meaning in no circumstances [br]you're allowed to lose control 0:05:55.889,0:05:57.440 of the brake side of the rope. 0:05:57.440,0:05:59.600 And that's by the way also equally true 0:05:59.600,0:06:03.115 for assisted building devices [br]but we are gonna talk next. 0:06:03.115,0:06:06.530 So assisted devices [br]have an ability to lock 0:06:06.530,0:06:08.485 in case the climber falls. 0:06:08.485,0:06:11.445 Which obviously adds a lot of safety. 0:06:11.445,0:06:14.804 For example if you would [br]knock a rock while you're climbing 0:06:14.804,0:06:19.039 and that rock would [br]fall on your belayer's head... 0:06:19.039,0:06:20.801 And that's why we wear a helmet! 0:06:20.801,0:06:24.235 So first of all your belayer would [br]really like to have a helmet. 0:06:24.235,0:06:27.159 But you as a climber [br]would really love that 0:06:27.159,0:06:30.369 there would be one of these [br]assisted devices down there. 0:06:30.369,0:06:33.960 And in fact my own skin[br]was once saved by this guy. 0:06:33.960,0:06:35.564 When I did a little fall 0:06:35.564,0:06:37.265 and my belayer did not notice 0:06:37.265,0:06:39.573 that there was a rock next to her leg. 0:06:39.573,0:06:41.876 And while she was flying forward, 0:06:41.876,0:06:44.907 her leg got stuck, and she spun around, 0:06:44.907,0:06:46.784 and hit her back to the wall. 0:06:46.784,0:06:49.459 And let both of the hands go. 0:06:49.459,0:06:54.400 So this guy is basically a reason why [br]I'm still here. 0:06:54.400,0:06:56.180 And making these videos. 0:06:56.180,0:06:59.280 Now super important that number two rule 0:06:59.280,0:07:01.355 is also applicable for these guys. 0:07:01.355,0:07:04.011 After all they are called assisted 0:07:04.011,0:07:07.212 so don't treat them as fully automatic. 0:07:07.212,0:07:10.880 Because there are cases [br]where they will not lock. 0:07:10.880,0:07:13.759 Apart from safety this locking is also 0:07:13.759,0:07:15.849 super useful in long belays 0:07:15.849,0:07:18.527 If your climber is hanging [br]on the rope a lot 0:07:18.527,0:07:20.520 and projecting some hard moves. 0:07:20.520,0:07:22.559 So if we compare this to the tube 0:07:22.559,0:07:26.720 even in the most mechanically [br]advantaged position 0:07:26.720,0:07:29.280 you will still need to hold on the rope. 0:07:29.280,0:07:32.733 And in very long belays [br]this will get tiring. 0:07:32.733,0:07:35.214 While with assisted devices [br]it's pretty chill. 0:07:35.214,0:07:37.780 You are literally just [br]sitting in your harness. 0:07:37.780,0:07:42.880 OK, so the first group of [br]assisted belaying devices 0:07:42.880,0:07:45.073 is called assisted tubers. 0:07:45.073,0:07:48.412 That's because they look like tubes 0:07:48.412,0:07:51.403 and they work similarly to regular tubes 0:07:51.403,0:07:52.960 where we squeeze the rope 0:07:52.960,0:07:55.759 between the carabiner and the device. 0:07:55.759,0:07:57.682 Except that they have a shape 0:07:57.682,0:08:00.440 that shifts the carabiner in position 0:08:00.440,0:08:03.404 where it squeezes on the rope so hard 0:08:03.404,0:08:05.481 that it completely locks it off. 0:08:05.481,0:08:08.604 A little disadvantage of assisted tubes 0:08:08.604,0:08:11.320 is that once in locked position 0:08:11.320,0:08:14.160 you cannot quickly [br]feed slack to the climber. 0:08:14.160,0:08:17.403 You need a special action [br]to unlock the device 0:08:17.403,0:08:19.516 before you can feed the rope 0:08:19.516,0:08:21.425 For example with Click Up 0:08:21.425,0:08:23.225 it even clicks 0:08:23.225,0:08:25.219 and now I cannot do anything. 0:08:25.219,0:08:27.909 I literally need to unclick it. 0:08:27.909,0:08:29.531 And now I can continue belaying. 0:08:29.531,0:08:31.340 Now one really important thing 0:08:31.340,0:08:33.708 that not many know about assisted tubers 0:08:33.708,0:08:36.423 That they suffer from the same problem 0:08:36.423,0:08:38.334 as regular tubes 0:08:38.334,0:08:42.320 meaning that [br]if your hand is in up position 0:08:42.320,0:08:44.430 the device will not lock. 0:08:44.430,0:08:45.987 As you can see it's not locking 0:08:45.987,0:08:48.720 And if the climber would take a fall 0:08:48.720,0:08:51.040 the rope would just slide from my hand 0:08:51.040,0:08:54.160 and burn it. Oh, it's already burning. 0:08:54.160,0:08:56.540 However unlike regular tubes 0:08:56.540,0:08:58.240 Where you can get your hands sucked 0:08:58.240,0:08:59.963 even at very big angles 0:08:59.963,0:09:01.661 most assisted tubers 0:09:01.661,0:09:03.930 will only fail at the angles 0:09:03.930,0:09:06.272 that are very extremely high up. 0:09:06.272,0:09:08.519 And some actually don't fail at all. 0:09:08.519,0:09:10.879 I'm actually gonna make a separate video 0:09:10.879,0:09:12.699 where I was experimenting 0:09:12.699,0:09:15.830 at which angles which devices lock. 0:09:15.830,0:09:17.569 So stay tuned for that. 0:09:17.569,0:09:20.152 I can't put everything [br]into one video because 0:09:20.152,0:09:23.040 I need you to subscribe. 0:09:23.040,0:09:26.109 But independently of which [br]belaying device you're using 0:09:26.109,0:09:29.583 just develop a habit of keeping [br]your brake hand down. 0:09:29.583,0:09:32.730 Also good to know for people [br]who climb with two ropes 0:09:32.730,0:09:34.800 is that there are assisted tubers 0:09:34.800,0:09:36.389 that work with two ropes. 0:09:36.389,0:09:37.879 In case you go on a multi-pitch 0:09:37.879,0:09:41.439 and you want extra safety [br]you have some options. 0:09:41.439,0:09:44.320 All right let's move on to [br]cam assisted devices. 0:09:44.320,0:09:46.345 I'm sure everybody knows GriGri. 0:09:46.345,0:09:48.500 But there are more devices like 0:09:48.500,0:09:51.079 Trango Vergo and Birdie and others. 0:09:51.079,0:09:52.378 And the way they work is 0:09:52.378,0:09:54.658 that they have a camming [br]mechanism inside 0:09:54.658,0:09:56.308 which pinches on the rope. 0:09:56.308,0:09:58.197 Now in the case of GriGri 0:09:58.197,0:10:01.680 the cam is spring-loaded [br]meaning that as soon as 0:10:01.680,0:10:04.661 there is no more load [br]on the climber's end of the rope 0:10:04.661,0:10:06.399 the cam will disengage. 0:10:06.399,0:10:08.715 And you can belay normally. 0:10:08.715,0:10:10.397 While in the case of Vergo 0:10:10.397,0:10:11.760 it doesn't have a spring. 0:10:11.760,0:10:14.160 And you need to position the device 0:10:14.160,0:10:15.920 in a certain way 0:10:15.920,0:10:17.940 to be able to feed the slack. 0:10:17.940,0:10:19.977 All right back to GriGri. 0:10:19.977,0:10:22.219 If you press on GriGri's cam 0:10:22.219,0:10:25.200 but you ignore the rule number two 0:10:25.200,0:10:28.464 and you don't hold[br]the break side of the rope 0:10:28.464,0:10:32.279 this can happen... 0:10:37.920,0:10:40.880 Also if you ignore rule number two 0:10:40.880,0:10:45.200 and your GriGri gets trapped [br]in the first piece of gear 0:10:45.200,0:10:47.839 this can happen 0:10:51.360,0:10:53.279 Many of you asked 0:10:53.279,0:10:56.158 if this problem of [br]trapping in the first bolt 0:10:56.158,0:10:58.479 where it disengages the cam 0:10:58.479,0:11:01.981 is also applicable for assisted tubers. 0:11:01.981,0:11:04.780 So with most assisted devices 0:11:04.780,0:11:07.120 the answer is unlikely. 0:11:07.120,0:11:09.920 Since there is no cam that i could press 0:11:09.920,0:11:12.560 to disengage this locking. 0:11:12.560,0:11:16.079 Only if i would press on this end 0:11:16.079,0:11:18.800 it kind of slips a bit but still 0:11:18.800,0:11:21.600 stays locked. 0:11:25.920,0:11:29.120 This Click Up 0:11:29.120,0:11:33.040 doesn't even lock [br]if i don't hold the rope. 0:11:33.040,0:11:37.760 Amazing. Number two rule. Hold the rope. 0:11:38.959,0:11:40.480 Yeah. 0:11:40.480,0:11:44.560 There's no way I can unlock this 0:11:44.560,0:11:47.440 in this manner. 0:11:47.680,0:11:50.918 So no assisted tubers [br]don't have this risk. 0:11:50.918,0:11:53.040 Now this is a little future me 0:11:53.040,0:11:56.280 after I was editing this part [br]that you just seen. 0:11:56.280,0:11:58.480 And I saw this I realized that 0:11:58.480,0:12:00.960 I was using a wrong carabiner. 0:12:00.960,0:12:05.388 Turns out Click Ups need [br]their own specific carabiners 0:12:05.388,0:12:07.860 And that's a reason why [br]you should read the manual. 0:12:07.860,0:12:12.450 So that's the carabiner [br]you should use for a Click Up. 0:12:12.450,0:12:15.440 Let's see if it locks. 0:12:16.399,0:12:19.120 No difference. 0:12:19.760,0:12:22.240 So number two rule. 0:12:22.240,0:12:23.630 And read the manual 0:12:23.630,0:12:26.230 because some of [br]the assisted delaying devices 0:12:26.230,0:12:28.820 require you a specific belaying carabiner. 0:12:28.820,0:12:30.640 I don't know if it's just marketing 0:12:30.640,0:12:33.488 or the shape of the carabiner [br]is slightly different. 0:12:33.488,0:12:36.500 Just use what the manufacturers recommend. 0:12:36.500,0:12:38.484 And finally there is this guy. 0:12:38.484,0:12:41.120 It's a Revo from Wild Country. 0:12:41.120,0:12:43.782 It's an inertia based mechanism. 0:12:43.782,0:12:46.560 Which will lock once the climber starts 0:12:46.560,0:12:49.346 falling faster than 4 meters per second. 0:12:49.346,0:12:51.753 So if i pull slowly it doesn't lock. 0:12:51.753,0:12:56.320 I need to pull really fast [br]in order for it to lock. 0:12:56.320,0:12:57.940 So my goal of this video 0:12:57.940,0:13:00.320 is not to compare all [br]of the delaying devices 0:13:00.320,0:13:02.639 on the market and [br]tell you which one to buy. 0:13:02.639,0:13:03.755 Sorry for that. 0:13:03.755,0:13:09.010 Every device have its own [br]pros and cons, haters and lovers. 0:13:09.010,0:13:10.299 Full internet of that. 0:13:10.299,0:13:12.997 However if you would want such comparison 0:13:12.997,0:13:14.969 let me know in the comments and maybe 0:13:14.969,0:13:17.810 I will make a separate video on that. 0:13:17.810,0:13:19.870 OK now I have a tip for you 0:13:19.870,0:13:21.491 that will make your life [br]a little bit easier 0:13:21.491,0:13:23.790 and maybe will even save your ass 0:13:23.790,0:13:25.040 on a multi-pitch one day. 0:13:25.040,0:13:26.160 Humans, 0:13:26.160,0:13:28.409 we have two hands normally 0:13:28.409,0:13:32.399 and handling more than [br]two objects in two hands 0:13:32.399,0:13:33.430 is not ideal. 0:13:33.430,0:13:36.130 What I often see that people[br]take their belaying device, 0:13:36.130,0:13:37.773 their carabiner, the rope... 0:13:37.773,0:13:39.879 That's already three objects by the way. 0:13:39.879,0:13:42.639 And they try to connect everything 0:13:42.639,0:13:44.959 in space 0:13:44.959,0:13:48.440 like so... 0:13:49.440,0:13:50.443 Ready to belay. 0:13:50.443,0:13:52.170 So doing this 0:13:52.170,0:13:53.694 will greatly increase the chance 0:13:53.694,0:13:55.469 that one day you will drop something. 0:13:55.469,0:13:57.359 You will be trying to connect something 0:13:57.359,0:13:59.360 and then suddenly whoops... 0:13:59.360,0:14:01.010 Your belaying device flies down. 0:14:01.010,0:14:02.444 If you're not on a multi-pitch 0:14:02.444,0:14:03.994 if you're standing on the ground 0:14:03.994,0:14:05.279 that's not a big deal. 0:14:05.279,0:14:07.680 However if you drop your belaying device 0:14:07.680,0:14:09.199 on a multi-pitch 0:14:09.199,0:14:10.509 you are in big trouble. 0:14:10.509,0:14:12.696 So this is what you do to avoid that. 0:14:12.696,0:14:14.275 Normally your belaying device 0:14:14.275,0:14:15.920 will live with your carabiner 0:14:15.920,0:14:17.760 somewhere on the harness. 0:14:17.760,0:14:18.853 So step one. 0:14:18.853,0:14:22.422 You take both of them[br]together as one unit. 0:14:22.422,0:14:24.848 So I'm carrying only one unit. 0:14:24.848,0:14:28.800 And you immediately connect it [br]to belaying loop. 0:14:28.800,0:14:31.279 So you cannot drop anything right now, 0:14:31.279,0:14:32.316 everything is safe. 0:14:32.316,0:14:34.391 Step two. You take a bite of rope 0:14:34.391,0:14:37.600 and you insert into your belaying device. 0:14:37.600,0:14:40.284 Keep in mind of [br]the orientation of the rope 0:14:40.284,0:14:42.320 which end has to go to the climber 0:14:42.320,0:14:44.340 which end is your break hand. 0:14:44.340,0:14:45.618 If you're not sure 0:14:45.618,0:14:48.079 every belaying device has an image 0:14:48.079,0:14:49.496 on the side of it. 0:14:49.496,0:14:51.040 Which will remind you that. 0:14:51.040,0:14:53.696 And next. Open your carabiner 0:14:53.696,0:14:56.399 and hook your rope together 0:14:56.399,0:14:58.480 with the belaying device. 0:14:58.480,0:15:01.440 So at no point there was a chance for me 0:15:01.440,0:15:02.690 to drop anything. 0:15:02.690,0:15:04.720 And once you're done belaying 0:15:04.720,0:15:05.600 you simply reverse the process. 0:15:05.600,0:15:07.670 Where you open the carabiner, 0:15:07.670,0:15:08.887 you unhook the rope. 0:15:08.887,0:15:10.570 But you hook the belaying device. 0:15:10.570,0:15:13.351 And then you simply can [br]just pull out the rope. 0:15:13.351,0:15:16.480 And your belaying device stays[br]on your harness with the carabiner. 0:15:16.480,0:15:19.650 If you want to put it somewhere else [br]you put it somewhere else. 0:15:19.650,0:15:21.280 And the same works with assisted tubers. 0:15:21.280,0:15:22.800 So step one. 0:15:22.800,0:15:25.682 Connect your belaying device [br]to your harness, 0:15:25.682,0:15:27.206 take a bite of rope, 0:15:27.206,0:15:31.519 put that bite of rope [br]into belaying device, 0:15:31.519,0:15:36.399 open the carabiner and hook the rope [br]and belaying device together. 0:15:36.399,0:15:39.510 Now in case of the GriGri [br]it's slightly different. 0:15:39.510,0:15:41.513 So as always step one 0:15:41.513,0:15:44.092 clip your belaying device[br]to your belay loop. 0:15:44.092,0:15:45.627 So you cannot drop anything. 0:15:45.627,0:15:47.249 Now if you're not on a multi-pitch 0:15:47.249,0:15:49.281 and dropping your GriGri[br]is not a big deal 0:15:49.281,0:15:51.143 you simply take off your grigri, 0:15:51.143,0:15:53.199 open it in this cool way, 0:15:53.199,0:15:56.720 insert the rope, and clip it back. Simple. 0:15:56.720,0:15:59.759 Now if you are on a multi-pitch 0:15:59.759,0:16:01.036 there is a technique. 0:16:01.036,0:16:02.533 So this is what you do. 0:16:02.533,0:16:05.680 You open your carabiner 0:16:05.680,0:16:09.182 and hook only half of the GriGri together. 0:16:09.182,0:16:10.800 Then you can open the GriGri. 0:16:10.800,0:16:12.770 And it's connected to your carabiner. 0:16:12.770,0:16:13.831 You cannot drop it. 0:16:13.831,0:16:15.289 You insert the rope. 0:16:15.289,0:16:17.360 You close it. 0:16:17.360,0:16:19.600 And then you open your carabiner again 0:16:19.600,0:16:21.759 and hook the grigri back. 0:16:21.759,0:16:24.823 So this is as safe as you can do [br]with the grigri 0:16:24.823,0:16:25.953 on a multi-pitch. 0:16:25.953,0:16:27.691 And obviously once you're done 0:16:27.691,0:16:31.759 it's just simply reversing the process of 0:16:31.759,0:16:34.839 doing this 0:16:34.839,0:16:37.519 and doing that. 0:16:37.519,0:16:39.133 OK so I hope that by now 0:16:39.133,0:16:41.010 I gave you enough examples 0:16:41.010,0:16:43.448 how not to use belaying devices. 0:16:43.448,0:16:46.430 And now i'm gonna show you[br]proper techniques. 0:16:46.430,0:16:48.079 The good part is that 0:16:48.079,0:16:50.312 no matter what belaying device you use 0:16:50.312,0:16:52.714 good belaying techniques don't change. 0:16:52.714,0:16:55.230 There are slight differences[br]that i'm gonna mention. 0:16:55.230,0:16:57.440 But for majority it's the same. 0:16:57.440,0:16:58.320 All right. 0:16:58.320,0:16:59.739 So I hope that by now 0:16:59.739,0:17:02.974 number two rule is [br]strongly embedded into you. 0:17:02.974,0:17:04.731 However if for some reason 0:17:04.731,0:17:06.977 you really need to go hands-free 0:17:06.977,0:17:09.520 you can tie a backup knot 0:17:09.520,0:17:12.400 at your brake end. Like so. 0:17:12.400,0:17:14.640 And this is totally fine. 0:17:14.640,0:17:16.799 In case something happens and the rope 0:17:16.799,0:17:18.400 would slip all the way 0:17:18.400,0:17:20.400 the GriGri will lock. 0:17:20.400,0:17:22.040 However in the case of tube 0:17:22.040,0:17:23.299 it's slightly different. 0:17:23.299,0:17:25.120 If you would just simply 0:17:25.120,0:17:27.039 tie a knot here. 0:17:27.039,0:17:28.556 And the climber would fall. 0:17:28.556,0:17:29.660 There is a chance that 0:17:29.660,0:17:31.970 this knot will get jammed 0:17:31.970,0:17:33.717 in your belaying device so hard 0:17:33.717,0:17:37.675 that you will have trouble to unjam it. 0:17:37.675,0:17:39.740 Let's use a slightly different carabiner 0:17:39.740,0:17:42.172 so it's easier for you [br]to see what's happening. 0:17:42.172,0:17:44.510 So in the case of tube 0:17:44.510,0:17:45.793 you take a bite of rope 0:17:45.793,0:17:47.940 and then you take another bite of rope 0:17:47.940,0:17:50.559 and put through the first one 0:17:50.559,0:17:52.640 and you make it tight. 0:17:52.640,0:17:55.840 And make sure that[br]this loop is long enough. 0:17:55.840,0:17:56.960 Like so. 0:17:56.960,0:17:59.489 This will hold but this is not enough. 0:17:59.489,0:18:02.149 To make it extra safe 0:18:02.149,0:18:05.316 you tie in back up knot here. 0:18:05.316,0:18:07.292 So now i can go hands-free. 0:18:07.292,0:18:09.363 And in case my climber takes a fall 0:18:09.363,0:18:10.700 this will hold him. 0:18:10.700,0:18:13.200 And if i want to release all of that 0:18:13.200,0:18:15.840 hold the brake side of the rope, 0:18:15.840,0:18:19.200 untie the top backup knot, 0:18:19.200,0:18:22.799 and start pulling the rope 0:18:22.799,0:18:25.440 until you have a little loop left. 0:18:25.440,0:18:27.440 At this point inform your climber that 0:18:27.440,0:18:28.400 he might 0:18:28.400,0:18:30.160 feel a little bump 0:18:30.160,0:18:32.480 and tug fast. 0:18:32.480,0:18:34.280 Like so. If you do this correctly 0:18:34.280,0:18:36.227 your climber will not go down at all. 0:18:36.227,0:18:40.559 Now if you're not familiar [br]with slip slap slap... 0:18:40.559,0:18:43.439 this technique - good . 0:18:43.439,0:18:46.270 You can safely [br]ignore my next sentence. 0:18:46.270,0:18:48.325 However if you're using that technique 0:18:48.325,0:18:51.448 I would strongly advise you to reconsider. 0:18:51.448,0:18:53.000 Because in the case of the fall 0:18:53.000,0:18:54.605 your hand might get sucked 0:18:54.605,0:18:55.860 into the bellying device 0:18:55.860,0:18:57.770 faster than you might think. 0:18:57.770,0:18:59.600 So as a good rule of thumb keep 0:18:59.600,0:19:01.952 your break hand always down. 0:19:01.952,0:19:06.250 And do any hand swapping or sliding there. 0:19:06.250,0:19:07.788 So now a little disclaimer. 0:19:07.788,0:19:08.720 I'm gonna show you 0:19:08.720,0:19:11.097 three different techniques[br]of taking slack. 0:19:11.097,0:19:14.322 And depending on [br]where you are on the planet 0:19:14.322,0:19:15.360 some of them 0:19:15.360,0:19:17.981 might be not considered as acceptable. 0:19:17.981,0:19:19.457 So stick with me 0:19:19.457,0:19:20.603 I'm gonna explain. 0:19:20.603,0:19:23.360 Because i went really deep[br]in this rabbit hole. 0:19:23.360,0:19:25.303 So all the techniques start the same. 0:19:25.303,0:19:26.940 Your left hand reaches up 0:19:26.940,0:19:28.639 and pulls down on the rope. 0:19:28.639,0:19:30.613 While at the same time your break hand 0:19:30.613,0:19:33.280 pushes forward and locks it down. 0:19:33.280,0:19:35.360 And now at this point you need to bring 0:19:35.360,0:19:37.763 your right hand up the rope. 0:19:37.763,0:19:40.696 And there are [br]three different ways to do so. 0:19:40.696,0:19:41.600 The first one. 0:19:41.600,0:19:43.210 It's more popular in Europe. 0:19:43.210,0:19:45.063 And it's called hand over hand 0:19:45.063,0:19:46.640 or V to the knee. 0:19:46.640,0:19:49.515 So you simply take your left hand 0:19:49.515,0:19:52.560 and go over your right hand 0:19:52.560,0:19:53.760 and then right hand goes 0:19:53.760,0:19:54.875 over your left hand. 0:19:54.875,0:19:57.095 That's why it's called hand over hand. 0:19:57.095,0:19:59.936 So you take, .... hand over hand, 0:19:59.936,0:20:03.490 you take, ... hand over hand. 0:20:03.490,0:20:05.550 So I find myself using this technique 0:20:05.550,0:20:08.169 when the climber wants me[br]to take really hard 0:20:08.169,0:20:10.110 as he's moving up the rope. 0:20:10.110,0:20:11.566 Because you're always 0:20:11.566,0:20:13.529 pulling down on the rope. 0:20:13.529,0:20:15.039 You can... 0:20:15.039,0:20:16.908 It kind of feels like 0:20:16.908,0:20:19.039 climbing up the rope. 0:20:19.039,0:20:21.840 Very comfortable. 0:20:22.559,0:20:24.400 So the problem with this technique is 0:20:24.400,0:20:26.339 that when people get really good 0:20:26.339,0:20:29.200 and can do it really fast 0:20:29.200,0:20:32.320 they start letting go the brake hand 0:20:32.320,0:20:35.768 before the left hand goes [br]into the locking position. 0:20:35.768,0:20:36.884 So we do this. 0:20:36.884,0:20:40.400 We take this, let go already, 0:20:40.400,0:20:42.525 and then go into locking position. 0:20:42.525,0:20:44.561 If the climber would fall 0:20:44.561,0:20:46.990 in the moment where you let go this 0:20:46.990,0:20:49.785 and you don't lock the hand down 0:20:49.785,0:20:52.290 you probably know what would happen. 0:20:52.290,0:20:54.240 So obviously a simple solution - 0:20:54.240,0:20:55.039 lock, 0:20:55.039,0:20:56.903 and then in the locking position 0:20:56.903,0:20:58.347 do any hand swapping. 0:20:58.347,0:21:00.399 And another thing you need to be aware of 0:21:00.399,0:21:01.919 that sometimes if the 0:21:01.919,0:21:03.769 climber drops a bunch of slack 0:21:03.769,0:21:05.695 your belaying device falls down. 0:21:05.695,0:21:07.511 And here you need to be careful 0:21:07.511,0:21:09.440 to not take your left 0:21:09.440,0:21:11.669 hand over the belaying device. 0:21:11.669,0:21:13.553 Otherwise if you do so 0:21:13.553,0:21:15.382 and the climber falls 0:21:15.382,0:21:18.952 your hand gets into this awkward position. 0:21:18.952,0:21:21.280 So instead you reach [br]under your belaying device 0:21:21.280,0:21:23.150 and you grab the rope. 0:21:23.150,0:21:25.152 And now if the climber would fall 0:21:25.152,0:21:26.758 everything would be fine. 0:21:26.758,0:21:29.150 All right. Next technique is called PBUS. 0:21:29.150,0:21:31.290 Which is more commonly used in America. 0:21:31.290,0:21:33.430 Which means Pull, Break... 0:21:33.430,0:21:36.480 So basically the same stuff, as before. 0:21:36.480,0:21:40.080 But now instead of taking over the hand 0:21:40.080,0:21:42.888 you take Under and Slide. 0:21:42.888,0:21:46.480 So Pull, Brake, Under, Slide. 0:21:46.480,0:21:49.176 Pull Brake Under Slide. 0:21:49.176,0:21:50.920 So the benefit of this technique 0:21:50.920,0:21:53.624 is your strong hand never leaves the rope. 0:21:53.624,0:21:55.738 A little drawback of this technique 0:21:55.738,0:21:58.116 is when you have weight on the rope, 0:21:58.116,0:22:00.240 and you're trying to take hard, 0:22:00.240,0:22:02.880 now sliding up this hand 0:22:02.880,0:22:05.530 is not as comfortable as 0:22:05.530,0:22:09.520 in hand over hand technique. 0:22:09.520,0:22:12.000 so at some point as you will be 0:22:12.000,0:22:14.799 practicing your p-bus technique you will 0:22:14.799,0:22:17.520 realize that you don't actually need to 0:22:17.520,0:22:19.919 bring your left hand down there in order 0:22:19.919,0:22:23.120 to bring your big hand up you can simply 0:22:23.120,0:22:24.799 slide it up 0:22:24.799,0:22:27.039 and this is a third technique which is 0:22:27.039,0:22:29.520 called a tunnel technique and since your 0:22:29.520,0:22:32.320 left hand never leaves this rope 0:22:32.320,0:22:34.080 it's the most efficient technique 0:22:34.080,0:22:36.320 because you can always switch between 0:22:36.320,0:22:39.600 taking slack and giving slack instantly 0:22:39.600,0:22:42.559 so no matter in which moment of taking 0:22:42.559,0:22:45.360 slack i am i can always give slack 0:22:45.360,0:22:47.600 and contrary any other technique where 0:22:47.600,0:22:49.600 my left hand leaves 0:22:49.600,0:22:52.240 now it needs to go back in order for me 0:22:52.240,0:22:55.039 to give slack so it's an extra action 0:22:55.039,0:22:57.280 also tunnel technique is the best for 0:22:57.280,0:23:00.000 taking small amounts of slack 0:23:00.000,0:23:01.919 if i would try to take a small amount of 0:23:01.919,0:23:04.240 slack continuously with any other 0:23:04.240,0:23:06.559 technique it's 0:23:06.559,0:23:08.480 a lot of hand 0:23:08.480,0:23:09.840 movements 0:23:09.840,0:23:11.919 while the tunnel technique it's very 0:23:11.919,0:23:13.440 relaxed 0:23:13.440,0:23:15.600 and that's why it's the most efficient 0:23:15.600,0:23:18.080 technique however you might know or 0:23:18.080,0:23:20.159 maybe you don't this technique is 0:23:20.159,0:23:23.120 actually not considered acceptable in 0:23:23.120,0:23:25.120 some parts of the planet 0:23:25.120,0:23:27.760 with the argument that during the moment 0:23:27.760,0:23:30.080 where you slide the hand up 0:23:30.080,0:23:32.320 you don't have a firm grip on the brake 0:23:32.320,0:23:34.799 hand and during the fall maybe you will 0:23:34.799,0:23:37.280 not be able to catch the fall to which 0:23:37.280,0:23:39.600 here is my arguments 0:23:39.600,0:23:42.320 first of all if you use any assisted 0:23:42.320,0:23:45.600 belaying device you don't even need any 0:23:45.600,0:23:47.840 hard grip on the brake side of the rope 0:23:47.840,0:23:52.159 any light tug will make the device lock 0:23:52.159,0:23:54.799 so this is not an issue immediately now 0:23:54.799,0:23:57.200 if you are using a tube i actually went 0:23:57.200,0:23:59.440 out and did an experiment on this where 0:23:59.440,0:24:01.760 i asked inexperienced belayers to keep 0:24:01.760,0:24:04.640 moving the hand up and down while i was 0:24:04.640,0:24:07.120 distracting them and the climber was 0:24:07.120,0:24:10.159 taking unexpected falls for them 0:24:10.159,0:24:12.400 so stay tuned for that it's gonna be 0:24:12.400,0:24:14.159 really crazy and really interesting 0:24:14.159,0:24:16.720 episode but in general when sliding the 0:24:16.720,0:24:19.200 hand up don't make a big tunnel i don't 0:24:19.200,0:24:20.640 like that this technique is actually 0:24:20.640,0:24:22.400 called a tunnel method 0:24:22.400,0:24:25.200 it shouldn't be a tunnel you're barely 0:24:25.200,0:24:27.840 opening the hand just barely enough for 0:24:27.840,0:24:30.320 it to slide up the rope and if you are a 0:24:30.320,0:24:32.559 beginner it's really good idea to start 0:24:32.559,0:24:35.120 practicing with pbus technique because 0:24:35.120,0:24:37.520 you will be sliding your hand up the 0:24:37.520,0:24:39.039 rope a lot 0:24:39.039,0:24:42.159 with the backup of your other hand 0:24:42.159,0:24:44.240 and you will learn the feeling of the 0:24:44.240,0:24:46.640 rope going through your hand so start 0:24:46.640,0:24:49.200 with this and once you get really 0:24:49.200,0:24:51.200 comfortable with this 0:24:51.200,0:24:53.600 not bringing the left hand down and just 0:24:53.600,0:24:56.400 doing this will feel very natural by 0:24:56.400,0:24:58.000 that point 0:24:58.000,0:24:59.600 and just to make sure that i'm not 0:24:59.600,0:25:01.760 missing something in regards of safety 0:25:01.760,0:25:03.600 of these three techniques i wrote an 0:25:03.600,0:25:06.960 email to about 25 different climbing 0:25:06.960,0:25:09.120 safety related organizations and 0:25:09.120,0:25:11.360 associations and asked them to comment 0:25:11.360,0:25:13.440 on these techniques not all of them 0:25:13.440,0:25:15.919 replied unfortunately however out of 0:25:15.919,0:25:18.480 those who replied none of them said 0:25:18.480,0:25:20.880 anything against of any particular 0:25:20.880,0:25:23.200 technique so as long as you follow the 0:25:23.200,0:25:25.760 basic guidelines of proper belaying you 0:25:25.760,0:25:27.919 will be fine maybe with an exception if 0:25:27.919,0:25:29.440 you're in the united states and you need 0:25:29.440,0:25:32.080 to take a delaying exam then you might 0:25:32.080,0:25:35.039 be forced to use the pibas and few more 0:25:35.039,0:25:36.640 mistakes that people do when they're 0:25:36.640,0:25:39.360 taking slack first of all they take the 0:25:39.360,0:25:43.760 slack like this or like this 0:25:43.760,0:25:46.320 so unless you are using a assisted 0:25:46.320,0:25:48.320 building device and you're guaranteed 0:25:48.320,0:25:51.279 that that device will lock at this angle 0:25:51.279,0:25:53.440 which i will make a separate video on 0:25:53.440,0:25:56.000 that you might be in trouble second 0:25:56.000,0:25:58.559 mistake is people hold 0:25:58.559,0:26:01.039 both strands of the rope with the left 0:26:01.039,0:26:04.480 hand they do something like this 0:26:04.480,0:26:06.960 the reason why they do this is to 0:26:06.960,0:26:09.279 prevent the belaying device from falling 0:26:09.279,0:26:12.159 down there however to fix that you don't 0:26:12.159,0:26:14.000 need to hold both strands of the rope 0:26:14.000,0:26:15.919 you can just simply hold one strand of 0:26:15.919,0:26:17.600 the rope and you will have 0:26:17.600,0:26:20.640 exactly the same result 0:26:20.640,0:26:22.320 okay that's a lot of talking about 0:26:22.320,0:26:24.559 taking slack i just felt that that's the 0:26:24.559,0:26:27.200 most important part and the rest will be 0:26:27.200,0:26:29.600 much more simple so to give slack you 0:26:29.600,0:26:31.919 simply reverse the tunneling technique 0:26:31.919,0:26:34.240 where your left hand pulls up while your 0:26:34.240,0:26:36.880 right hand assists then the left hand 0:26:36.880,0:26:39.760 goes down and you slide the break hand 0:26:39.760,0:26:42.880 down and you repeat 0:26:43.679,0:26:46.480 and the same technique works with most 0:26:46.480,0:26:48.880 of assisted delaying devices while with 0:26:48.880,0:26:50.880 some of assisted devices you will need a 0:26:50.880,0:26:53.600 special action with assisted tubers it's 0:26:53.600,0:26:55.520 common to push them up while you're 0:26:55.520,0:26:58.320 giving slack 0:26:58.400,0:27:00.559 now in case of the grigri you can either 0:27:00.559,0:27:04.320 use that standard way of giving slack or 0:27:04.320,0:27:06.400 you can press and greek this cam and 0:27:06.400,0:27:07.840 pull the rope 0:27:07.840,0:27:10.240 just don't forget the rule number two 0:27:10.240,0:27:13.360 the rope stays in the hand all the time 0:27:13.360,0:27:15.440 now in case you need to give a lot of 0:27:15.440,0:27:17.679 slack quickly like if the climber is 0:27:17.679,0:27:20.320 about to clip you take your left hand 0:27:20.320,0:27:22.159 close to the laying device and your 0:27:22.159,0:27:24.399 break hand far from the laying device 0:27:24.399,0:27:26.799 this is important only then you can give 0:27:26.799,0:27:28.960 a lot of slack quickly 0:27:28.960,0:27:31.919 if your left hand is somewhere up you 0:27:31.919,0:27:35.840 will be limited by it how far up you can 0:27:35.840,0:27:38.640 raise this hand equally if your brick 0:27:38.640,0:27:41.039 hand is close you will be limited by 0:27:41.039,0:27:43.200 that hand how fast you can give slack 0:27:43.200,0:27:45.200 and then you will need to 0:27:45.200,0:27:48.320 do more actions so left hand close right 0:27:48.320,0:27:50.640 hand far anticipate and you can give a 0:27:50.640,0:27:52.880 lot of slack quickly and if things go 0:27:52.880,0:27:54.799 wrong you can take all of that slack 0:27:54.799,0:27:56.640 quickly back now when you need to lower 0:27:56.640,0:27:58.720 the climber you take both of the hands 0:27:58.720,0:28:01.039 on the brake side of the rope and you 0:28:01.039,0:28:03.919 use one hand to feed the rope to the 0:28:03.919,0:28:05.360 other hand 0:28:05.360,0:28:08.080 that's one way or if you're comfortable 0:28:08.080,0:28:10.000 you can let the rope slide through both 0:28:10.000,0:28:12.240 of your hands 0:28:12.240,0:28:14.840 the risk here is however if you go too 0:28:14.840,0:28:17.919 fast the rope will go so fast through 0:28:17.919,0:28:20.080 both of your hands that it can burn both 0:28:20.080,0:28:22.480 of them and then you will probably drop 0:28:22.480,0:28:24.960 your climber so simply don't go fast 0:28:24.960,0:28:27.279 there is absolutely no point of lowering 0:28:27.279,0:28:29.120 a climber fast there is nothing cool 0:28:29.120,0:28:31.760 about that it heats your equipment way 0:28:31.760,0:28:33.760 more wears down your equipment it's 0:28:33.760,0:28:36.159 expensive and go in a controlled manner 0:28:36.159,0:28:38.559 and if you're not sure you can always 0:28:38.559,0:28:40.720 feed the rope like so and in case your 0:28:40.720,0:28:43.679 climber takes a fall 0:28:43.679,0:28:46.720 just hold on the brake side of the rope 0:28:46.720,0:28:48.559 even if you have number two in your 0:28:48.559,0:28:52.159 pants hold it never let go and as soon 0:28:52.159,0:28:54.799 as your climber will regain the ground 0:28:54.799,0:28:57.440 and unload the rope most of the blank 0:28:57.440,0:28:59.360 devices will unlock themselves and 0:28:59.360,0:29:01.840 you're ready to continue delaying while 0:29:01.840,0:29:04.799 with some devices like click up 0:29:04.799,0:29:07.600 once it locks you need a special action 0:29:07.600,0:29:10.720 to unlock it to continue blaming so as i 0:29:10.720,0:29:12.320 already said it's a good idea to look 0:29:12.320,0:29:14.240 into the manual of your blank device to 0:29:14.240,0:29:17.360 know all these little nuances that there 0:29:17.360,0:29:19.600 might be now if you are teaching 0:29:19.600,0:29:22.159 beginners or you are a beginner yourself 0:29:22.159,0:29:24.480 practice using belaying device on the 0:29:24.480,0:29:27.840 ground without a climber and only once 0:29:27.840,0:29:29.600 you're completely comfortable and you're 0:29:29.600,0:29:32.000 ready to go and actually play somebody 0:29:32.000,0:29:33.919 then make sure to have somebody 0:29:33.919,0:29:36.559 experienced backing up holding on the 0:29:36.559,0:29:39.120 break side of the rope and giving you 0:29:39.120,0:29:42.000 guidance assistance on your technique 0:29:42.000,0:29:44.960 this is really important i actually once 0:29:44.960,0:29:47.279 saved a climber when inexperienced 0:29:47.279,0:29:49.919 belayer was using a grigri i was backing 0:29:49.919,0:29:51.520 up the rope 0:29:51.520,0:29:53.760 and actually i was the one who caught 0:29:53.760,0:29:55.840 the fall and the full story if you're 0:29:55.840,0:29:58.720 interested is in this video about grigri 0:29:58.720,0:30:00.640 and of course don't take this video as a 0:30:00.640,0:30:02.559 complete guide into delaying there is 0:30:02.559,0:30:04.880 way more things you need to know from 0:30:04.880,0:30:07.919 proper slack management to soft catches 0:30:07.919,0:30:10.080 to belayer movement to good 0:30:10.080,0:30:12.240 communication with your climber and all 0:30:12.240,0:30:14.559 of that is coming in the future episodes 0:30:14.559,0:30:17.840 of belay master class 0:30:18.000,0:30:19.520 that's a lot of 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