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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.44,0:00:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ellen Gallagher: Cutting]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.14,0:00:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in New England
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.70,0:00:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I live now between Rotterdam and New York.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.13,0:00:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm actually a big bird watcher in Rotterdam\Nnow
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.50,0:00:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's a great migratory space
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.32,0:00:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm there with my binoculars,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.91,0:00:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hiking around there.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.09,0:00:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm looking very precisely
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.73,0:00:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at these fleeting glimpses of birds.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.56,0:00:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You try to remember what you've seen,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.55,0:00:46.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's gone, and then you try to find it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.82,0:00:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the bird paintings,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.83,0:00:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I start with a more precise drawing,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.85,0:00:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then from that drawing,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.13,0:01:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I abstract the form.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.34,0:01:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has to be abstract.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.45,0:01:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wouldn't work if it was really like
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.60,0:01:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a completely believable, detailed,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.28,0:01:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precise rendering of the bird.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.98,0:01:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like radically cutting into the painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.88,0:01:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inserting these paper birds,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.05,0:01:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then trying to figure out how to believe\Nin it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.67,0:01:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd have to somehow, then,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.55,0:01:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weave them back into the paintings.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.09,0:01:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The things that separates the planes
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.95,0:01:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the incisions and the edges of the matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.75,0:01:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each separate layer of cutting or painting
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.13,0:01:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is visible
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.42,0:01:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and readable as an edge.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.80,0:01:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is interesting to see
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.03,0:01:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way content surfaces over time,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.00,0:02:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both in my mind and in the skin of the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.52,0:02:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Watery Ecstatic Series" (2001--2009)]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.80,0:02:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The "Watery Ecstatic" works were more kind\Nof
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.12,0:02:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,narrative--literary--relationship to the sea.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.84,0:02:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cut drawings were about
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.13,0:02:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bringing that biological surface
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.14,0:02:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the form of the drawing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.48,0:02:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to get these air bubbles that annoyed\Nme.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.29,0:02:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The slice I made when the paper was wet,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.31,0:02:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to release air bubbles,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.79,0:02:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opened up and became this sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.24,0:02:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cut that was fleshy.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.09,0:02:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's funny, then,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.93,0:02:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you move into the "Watery Ecstatic" works
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.98,0:02:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see that cut become so conscious.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.40,0:02:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, I found that to be a surprise.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.66,0:02:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cutting a graphic edge from the earlier works
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.43,0:02:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the newer works
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.56,0:02:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been, I think, consistent.