WEBVTT 00:00:09.809 --> 00:00:13.434 As you are all well aware, 00:00:13.434 --> 00:00:18.534 there are only really two religions 00:00:18.534 --> 00:00:23.034 on the face of this earth. 00:00:23.034 --> 00:00:28.015 (Aside) Don't you have a shirt that says 00:00:28.015 --> 00:00:32.685 Christianity is not a religion? 00:00:32.685 --> 00:00:36.299 Religion in years past was not 00:00:36.299 --> 00:00:39.889 the negative and derogatory term that it is today, 00:00:39.889 --> 00:00:42.559 so I almost hesitate to call Christianity [that]. 00:00:42.589 --> 00:00:44.962 But you know what we're talking about, 00:00:44.962 --> 00:00:46.992 there are really only basically 00:00:46.992 --> 00:00:48.942 two basic religions that exist, 00:00:48.942 --> 00:00:50.589 that have ever really existed. 00:00:50.589 --> 00:00:53.214 One is divine accomplishment: 00:00:53.214 --> 00:00:59.144 God provides for everything man needs to be saved. 00:00:59.144 --> 00:01:04.402 Over against all the religions of human works 00:01:04.402 --> 00:01:08.902 that basically say I must do something to merit God's favor. 00:01:08.902 --> 00:01:11.115 And everything I just described, 00:01:11.115 --> 00:01:14.375 whether it's Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, 00:01:14.375 --> 00:01:17.083 Islam, and go down the line... 00:01:17.083 --> 00:01:19.483 Hinduism, Buddhism... 00:01:19.483 --> 00:01:24.090 they fall into this category of human works. 00:01:24.090 --> 00:01:31.399 Now I realize among those religions 00:01:31.399 --> 00:01:34.939 that fall into that category, 00:01:34.939 --> 00:01:42.649 some speak more highly of Christ than others. 00:01:42.649 --> 00:01:44.770 They don't honor Him, 00:01:44.770 --> 00:01:51.530 they just are not as derogatory towards Him as, say, Islam is. 00:01:51.530 --> 00:01:54.501 Catholicism will actually say some things 00:01:54.501 --> 00:01:57.831 that we would agree with, right? 00:01:57.831 --> 00:02:00.329 They would claim He's God. 00:02:00.329 --> 00:02:04.439 The problem is they make Mary out 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.999 as the one who did what He did. 00:02:07.999 --> 00:02:09.699 So they really dishonor Him. 00:02:09.699 --> 00:02:11.568 They do great disservice to Him. 00:02:11.568 --> 00:02:16.017 But can a true Christian continue as a Mormon? 00:02:16.017 --> 00:02:20.974 I would say to James, here's his actual question: 00:02:20.974 --> 00:02:23.390 Pastor Tim, I'm a member 00:02:23.390 --> 00:02:28.740 of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) 00:02:28.740 --> 00:02:31.084 who has recently come to know the Lord. 00:02:31.084 --> 00:02:32.924 I'm wondering if it's possible to 00:02:32.924 --> 00:02:36.337 still remain as an active member of this organization 00:02:36.337 --> 00:02:42.087 while having had the born again experience. Thank you. 00:02:42.087 --> 00:02:45.248 So help me out, guys. You answer it. 00:02:45.248 --> 00:02:47.907 Can he stay? (responses from the room) 00:02:47.907 --> 00:02:50.907 There's the question, right there. 00:02:50.907 --> 00:02:53.423 That's exactly where my mind went. 00:02:53.423 --> 00:02:59.734 Why would you want to? 00:02:59.734 --> 00:03:03.727 I don't know and he doesn't say. 00:03:03.727 --> 00:03:09.202 But I can tell you this, typically in Mormonism, 00:03:09.202 --> 00:03:18.959 in Catholicism, in Islam, there are strong families. Exactly. 00:03:18.959 --> 00:03:24.103 Typically, the reason you want to stay in a system 00:03:24.103 --> 00:03:28.673 that does not line up with true Christianity 00:03:28.673 --> 00:03:32.497 is because you're trying to please somebody. 00:03:32.497 --> 00:03:35.328 You're not wanting to suffer 00:03:35.328 --> 00:03:40.258 the consequences of having come to Christ. 00:03:40.258 --> 00:03:46.360 Listen: Revelation 18:2, 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.880 "And he called out with a mighty voice, 00:03:49.880 --> 00:03:52.790 'fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great." 00:03:52.790 --> 00:03:55.449 Let me say something to you, in the book of Revelation, 00:03:55.449 --> 00:03:58.549 do you know who Babylon the Great is? 00:03:58.549 --> 00:04:03.868 Do you remember that picture of a whore; 00:04:03.868 --> 00:04:11.838 what was she riding on? 00:04:11.838 --> 00:04:23.169 A beast? And it was called something, 00:04:23.169 --> 00:04:27.799 but the term Babylon is used. 00:04:27.799 --> 00:04:29.927 Folks, let me tell you something. 00:04:29.927 --> 00:04:32.667 A very symbolic book; 00:04:32.667 --> 00:04:38.307 what is the church described as? 00:04:38.307 --> 00:04:43.356 A bride. The bride of Christ. 00:04:43.356 --> 00:04:46.976 False religion is a whore. 00:04:46.976 --> 00:04:49.976 False religion is an adulteress. 00:04:49.976 --> 00:04:54.111 False religion is described as Babylon. 00:04:54.111 --> 00:04:58.281 Basically, false religion has become 00:04:58.281 --> 00:05:00.581 a dwelling place for demons, 00:05:00.581 --> 00:05:03.167 a haunt for every unclean spirit, 00:05:03.167 --> 00:05:05.427 a haunt for every unclean bird, 00:05:05.427 --> 00:05:08.427 a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast, 00:05:08.427 --> 00:05:10.403 all the nations have drunk 00:05:10.403 --> 00:05:14.623 the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality. 00:05:14.623 --> 00:05:17.567 False religion pervades every country 00:05:17.567 --> 00:05:20.567 on the face of this earth. Guaranteed. 00:05:20.567 --> 00:05:26.617 They have all drunk of the passion of her sexual immorality. 00:05:26.617 --> 00:05:29.079 How many governments in this world 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.899 are Catholic governments? Muslim governments? 00:05:32.899 --> 00:05:35.428 And even the ones like in Turkey 00:05:35.428 --> 00:05:39.228 who claim to be secular, 00:05:39.228 --> 00:05:44.573 they're drunk with the passions of the sexual immorality of Islam. 00:05:44.573 --> 00:05:46.259 No question about it. 00:05:46.259 --> 00:05:50.187 The kings of the earth have committed immorality with her, 00:05:50.187 --> 00:05:51.917 and the merchants of the earth 00:05:51.917 --> 00:05:55.183 have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living, 00:05:55.183 --> 00:05:58.148 then I heard another voice from heaven saying this, 00:05:58.148 --> 00:06:01.838 'Come out of her, My people, 00:06:01.838 --> 00:06:03.828 lest you take part in her sins, 00:06:03.828 --> 00:06:05.708 lest you share in her plagues, 00:06:05.708 --> 00:06:08.708 for her sins are heaped high as heaven, 00:06:08.708 --> 00:06:11.363 and God has remembered her iniquities.' 00:06:11.363 --> 00:06:15.147 Mormonism is taking multitudes to hell! 00:06:15.147 --> 00:06:17.537 Come out from among her. 00:06:17.537 --> 00:06:20.600 Or 2 Corinthians 6:16, we are the temple of the living God, 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.600 as God said, I will make my dwelling among them, 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:25.233 and walk among them, 00:06:25.233 --> 00:06:28.833 and I will be their God and they shall be My people. 00:06:28.833 --> 00:06:31.707 Therefore, go out from their midst 00:06:31.707 --> 00:06:34.347 and be separate from them, says the Lord, and 00:06:34.347 --> 00:06:36.790 touch no unclean thing and I will welcome you, 00:06:36.790 --> 00:06:38.660 and I will be a Father to you, 00:06:38.660 --> 00:06:40.663 and you shall be the sons and daughters to me, 00:06:40.663 --> 00:06:43.213 says the Lord Almighty. 00:06:43.213 --> 00:06:47.691 Listen: we know well Paul's words, do we not? 00:06:47.691 --> 00:06:50.691 Even if we or an angel, Galatians 1:8, 00:06:50.691 --> 00:06:53.559 even an angel from heaven should preach to you 00:06:53.559 --> 00:06:56.559 a gospel contrary to the one we preach to you, 00:06:56.559 --> 00:06:59.234 let him be accursed. 00:06:59.234 --> 00:07:01.433 Do you realize Mormonism falls 00:07:01.433 --> 00:07:06.673 under the accursement of this inspired apostle? 00:07:06.673 --> 00:07:10.948 His curse on all who proclaim another gospel. 00:07:10.948 --> 00:07:15.008 You say, does Mormonism preach another gospel? 00:07:15.008 --> 00:07:21.643 Listen: the 3rd article of faith of the Church of Latter Day Saints, 00:07:21.643 --> 00:07:26.443 one of the 13 points of their basic church doctrine: 00:07:26.443 --> 00:07:32.461 Anybody involved in the Church of Latter Day Saints can look this up, 00:07:32.461 --> 00:07:39.641 it is their 3rd article of their 13 basic points. 00:07:39.641 --> 00:07:45.380 They're collectively known in Mormonism as the articles of faith. 00:07:45.380 --> 00:07:49.620 They're included in the standard Latter Day Saints scriptures, 00:07:49.620 --> 00:07:53.981 and members are encouraged to become familiar or memorize them, 00:07:53.981 --> 00:07:59.315 the third article of faith reads verbatim: 00:07:59.315 --> 00:08:03.155 We believe that through the atonement of Christ, 00:08:03.155 --> 00:08:06.325 all mankind may be saved by obedience 00:08:06.325 --> 00:08:10.456 to the laws and ordinances of the gospel." 00:08:10.456 --> 00:08:12.111 And you better hear that... 00:08:12.111 --> 00:08:16.199 they're not saying we're saved by the atonement of Christ, 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.839 and everything He achieved there. 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.389 You are only saved by the atonement of Christ 00:08:22.389 --> 00:08:30.869 and maybe saved by obedience to the laws. 00:08:30.869 --> 00:08:36.406 I'm going to quote to you from the teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, 00:08:36.406 --> 00:08:46.276 13th president of the LDS in his teachings, pages 353-354, 00:08:46.276 --> 00:08:52.170 he says this, "Grace consists of God's gift to His children 00:08:52.170 --> 00:08:55.240 wherein He gave His only begotten Son 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.960 that whosoever would believe in Him, 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:03.408 and comply with His laws and ordinances would have everlasting life. 00:09:03.408 --> 00:09:08.998 Or Bruce Redd McConckie, an apostle of the LDS, 00:09:08.998 --> 00:09:13.098 in his book "Mormon Doctrine," page 408 00:09:13.098 --> 00:09:17.682 "As with all other doctrines of salvation, 00:09:17.682 --> 00:09:22.572 justification is available because of the atoning sacrifice of Christ, 00:09:22.572 --> 00:09:26.661 but it becomes operative in the life of an individual 00:09:26.661 --> 00:09:33.281 only on conditions of personal righteousness." 00:09:33.281 --> 00:09:41.459 That is a blatant and manifest denial of the Gospel. 00:09:41.459 --> 00:09:45.996 Romans 3:20 "For by works of the law, 00:09:45.996 --> 00:09:50.016 no human being will be justified in His sight." 00:09:50.016 --> 00:09:55.121 No, Mr. McConckie, it is not 00:09:55.121 --> 00:09:58.271 'it becomes operative in the life of an individual 00:09:58.271 --> 00:10:02.611 on conditions of personal righteousness.' 00:10:02.611 --> 00:10:07.728 The justification that we have from Jesus Christ 00:10:07.728 --> 00:10:12.238 becomes operative by faith. 00:10:12.238 --> 00:10:17.007 By faith, Abraham was declared righteous. 00:10:17.007 --> 00:10:20.007 By faith. 00:10:20.007 --> 00:10:27.381 Yes, faith will produce works, 00:10:27.381 --> 00:10:30.171 but the works do not merit our salvation. 00:10:30.171 --> 00:10:36.967 By works of the law, no human being will be justified in His sight. 00:10:36.967 --> 00:10:39.795 Or Titus 3:5, He saved us, 00:10:39.795 --> 00:10:45.045 not because of works done by us in righteousness, 00:10:45.045 --> 00:10:47.335 but according to His own mercy, 00:10:47.335 --> 00:10:51.475 by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit. 00:10:51.475 --> 00:10:58.089 What I would say to this man James, is this: 00:10:58.089 --> 00:11:08.210 Jesus Christ calls us to full, 00:11:08.210 --> 00:11:13.850 undiluted devotion to Him. 00:11:13.850 --> 00:11:16.704 Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to me and 00:11:16.704 --> 00:11:20.364 does not hate his own father, and mother, 00:11:20.364 --> 00:11:23.221 and wife, and children, and brothers, 00:11:23.221 --> 00:11:25.251 and sisters, yes, and even his own life, 00:11:25.251 --> 00:11:27.428 he cannot be my disciple." 00:11:27.428 --> 00:11:29.580 I would say to this man James: 00:11:29.580 --> 00:11:33.850 if you're seeking to stay in Mormonism, in a false religion, 00:11:33.850 --> 00:11:37.156 in a religion that God tells you to come out of, 00:11:37.156 --> 00:11:40.626 in a religion that the Apostle Paul cursed, 00:11:40.626 --> 00:11:42.782 if you are determined to stay there 00:11:42.782 --> 00:11:45.112 and it has to do with a greater affection 00:11:45.112 --> 00:11:48.212 for any family relationship than what you have for Christ 00:11:48.212 --> 00:11:53.545 He says, Christ Himself says, you cannot be His disciple. 00:11:53.545 --> 00:11:55.906 Whoever does not bear his own cross 00:11:55.906 --> 00:11:59.216 and come after Me cannot be My disciple. 00:11:59.216 --> 00:12:03.048 Luke 14:33, "so therefore any one of you 00:12:03.048 --> 00:12:07.068 who does not renounce all that he has 00:12:07.068 --> 00:12:11.458 cannot be My disciple." 00:12:11.458 --> 00:12:16.022 So we would call James and anybody else in that situation... 00:12:16.022 --> 00:12:23.006 Catholicism has a cursed message, 00:12:23.006 --> 00:12:27.116 Islam is a damnable religion, 00:12:27.116 --> 00:12:32.294 Jehovah's Witnesses deny the deity of Christ, 00:12:32.294 --> 00:12:36.526 all these religions deny that Jesus Christ 00:12:36.526 --> 00:12:40.516 in a perfect life, in a perfect obedience, 00:12:40.516 --> 00:12:43.787 according to Philippians 2, 00:12:43.787 --> 00:12:47.857 He took that obedience all the way to becoming a man, 00:12:47.857 --> 00:12:51.820 perfectly, coming and submitting to His Father, 00:12:51.820 --> 00:12:54.762 taking that obedience all the way to death, 00:12:54.762 --> 00:12:57.762 even death on a cross, 00:12:57.762 --> 00:13:02.402 Jesus Christ, through tears, He learned obedience, 00:13:02.402 --> 00:13:06.288 He suffered before His Father, 00:13:06.288 --> 00:13:09.568 He earned a righteousness whereby 00:13:09.568 --> 00:13:11.956 the righteousness of God, 00:13:11.956 --> 00:13:16.436 the righteousness God demands of us was earned, 00:13:16.436 --> 00:13:20.057 it was merited by Christ Himself. 00:13:20.057 --> 00:13:25.561 To John the Baptist, 00:13:25.561 --> 00:13:27.691 He says, "John, baptize Me." 00:13:27.691 --> 00:13:30.011 John says, "Lord, I need to be baptized of You. 00:13:30.011 --> 00:13:32.471 You come here to be baptized by me?" 00:13:32.471 --> 00:13:36.424 And He said that all righteousness might be fulfilled, 00:13:36.424 --> 00:13:42.123 Jesus Christ had to walk through life and do what we do, 00:13:42.123 --> 00:13:44.319 be involved in what we're involved with, 00:13:44.319 --> 00:13:47.319 and do it in absolute perfection, 00:13:47.319 --> 00:13:49.712 and fulfill all righteousness 00:13:49.712 --> 00:13:53.232 so that the law might be satisfied perfectly, 00:13:53.232 --> 00:13:56.923 and in so doing, He takes all of that obedience, 00:13:56.923 --> 00:13:59.923 all the way to obeying His Father, 00:13:59.923 --> 00:14:03.685 and going to give His life 00:14:03.685 --> 00:14:06.685 as a ransom for many on Calvary's cross, 00:14:06.685 --> 00:14:08.578 so that He could come to that very point 00:14:08.578 --> 00:14:11.128 where He breathed His last, 00:14:11.128 --> 00:14:14.042 and just giving up the spirit, 00:14:14.042 --> 00:14:18.242 He says, "It is finished," and it's done. 00:14:18.242 --> 00:14:20.851 He has accomplished salvation. 00:14:20.851 --> 00:14:24.791 He was stricken, He was smitten, He was afflicted of God, 00:14:24.791 --> 00:14:29.414 He was crushed by almighty wrath on that cross, 00:14:29.414 --> 00:14:35.582 so that in the end of it, it is finished. 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:47.167 And now, the most vile sinner, much like Luke 19, 00:14:47.167 --> 00:14:55.377 the tax collector beating on his breast, 00:14:55.377 --> 00:15:00.565 no works to offer God. 00:15:00.565 --> 00:15:03.565 Christ sets him off against the Pharisee, 00:15:03.565 --> 00:15:06.507 who was boasting - he fasts, he gives, 00:15:06.507 --> 00:15:11.817 he does, he works, he puts forth an effort; 00:15:11.817 --> 00:15:15.391 this man beat on his breast, 00:15:15.391 --> 00:15:18.391 wouldn't even raise his head, he simply said, 00:15:18.391 --> 00:15:21.420 "God, be merciful to me, a sinner." 00:15:21.420 --> 00:15:24.334 Jesus did not say He went out 00:15:24.334 --> 00:15:26.864 and did all these works 00:15:26.864 --> 00:15:30.024 to make justification possible. 00:15:30.024 --> 00:15:32.868 He specifically said this man 00:15:32.868 --> 00:15:35.868 had no works to offer God, 00:15:35.868 --> 00:15:37.882 totally contrary to the Pharisee, 00:15:37.882 --> 00:15:41.402 who is offering God all sorts of good works, 00:15:41.402 --> 00:15:46.437 and Jesus says, make no qualms about it, 00:15:46.437 --> 00:15:56.747 Jesus says, "This man went home justified, and not the other." 00:15:56.747 --> 00:16:01.929 Be certain of that. 00:16:01.929 --> 00:16:05.641 This Mormon is a liar. 00:16:05.641 --> 00:16:09.981 These Mormons I quoted, they are liars. 00:16:09.981 --> 00:16:15.812 You cannot be justified the way they say. 00:16:15.812 --> 00:16:20.642 They're liars. 00:16:20.642 --> 00:16:27.986 Paul was very specific in Romans 4, 00:16:27.986 --> 00:16:37.276 it was not works, it was not works... 00:16:37.276 --> 00:16:41.224 Abraham had no place to boast in works. 00:16:41.224 --> 00:16:43.832 And if anybody doubts that, 00:16:43.832 --> 00:16:52.582 you not only have Luke 19, you have Romans 4:5, 00:16:52.582 --> 00:16:55.426 and it is unmistakable. 00:16:55.426 --> 00:17:00.166 Who does God justify? 00:17:00.166 --> 00:17:06.569 He who justifies the ungodly. 00:17:06.569 --> 00:17:10.549 It doesn't say He justifies those who 00:17:10.549 --> 00:17:14.979 work and obey and keep laws. 00:17:14.979 --> 00:17:21.575 It says He justifies the ungodly. 00:17:21.575 --> 00:17:23.593 These Mormons are liars. 00:17:23.593 --> 00:17:25.443 It is a corrupt system. 00:17:25.443 --> 00:17:27.443 It is a damning system. 00:17:27.443 --> 00:17:29.721 And if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, 00:17:29.721 --> 00:17:34.331 God calls you, "Come out." 00:17:34.331 --> 00:17:37.249 So no, you do not want to stay. 00:17:37.249 --> 00:17:40.249 It is a haunt of demons. 00:17:40.249 --> 00:17:47.744 A man cannot be saved unless the most basic aspects 00:17:47.744 --> 00:17:50.744 of the Gospel are understood. 00:17:50.744 --> 00:17:55.545 You see, we're called to believe something. 00:17:55.545 --> 00:18:02.065 There are very concrete propositions, or truths, 00:18:02.065 --> 00:18:05.874 that are presented in the basic Christian message 00:18:05.874 --> 00:18:08.874 that must be adhered to, they must be believed, 00:18:08.874 --> 00:18:11.172 they must be laid hold on. 00:18:11.172 --> 00:18:14.842 You clearly see that in 1 Corinthians 15, do you not? 00:18:14.842 --> 00:18:22.170 Paul is laying down very basic tenets of the Gospel, 00:18:22.170 --> 00:18:29.530 and the thing is, false religions are not a little hazy 00:18:29.530 --> 00:18:32.520 in some obscure doctrine. 00:18:32.520 --> 00:18:36.035 False religions attack the foundations; 00:18:36.035 --> 00:18:39.525 they attack the very core message. 00:18:39.525 --> 00:18:42.351 That's what Paul's dealing with in Galatians 1:8, 00:18:42.351 --> 00:18:45.351 if somebody, even an angel from heaven, 00:18:45.351 --> 00:18:47.933 it doesn't matter who it is, if they come to you 00:18:47.933 --> 00:18:50.983 preaching another gospel than what we have preached, 00:18:50.983 --> 00:18:52.768 let them be accursed. 00:18:52.768 --> 00:18:57.459 And the thing is, the Gospel at its very root 00:18:57.459 --> 00:19:01.379 has to do to with Christ, His person, 00:19:01.379 --> 00:19:04.302 His character, who He is, 00:19:04.302 --> 00:19:08.182 and what He accomplished, in His life, on the cross, 00:19:08.182 --> 00:19:10.201 in His death. 00:19:10.201 --> 00:19:12.112 If a man does not have 00:19:12.112 --> 00:19:17.552 a basic understanding of that, he cannot be saved. 00:19:17.552 --> 00:19:20.721 There needs to be a basic comprehension of that. 00:19:20.721 --> 00:19:25.615 And the thing is these false religions attack on that level. 00:19:25.615 --> 00:19:27.414 Like I say it's not some obscure teaching 00:19:27.414 --> 00:19:30.414 about eschatology where they go wrong, 00:19:30.414 --> 00:19:33.735 they attack the very central message 00:19:33.735 --> 00:19:37.715 in a way that their message is damning. 00:19:37.715 --> 00:19:39.665 This is night and day, 00:19:39.665 --> 00:19:41.715 this is dark and light, 00:19:41.715 --> 00:19:45.455 this is the difference between life and death. 00:19:45.455 --> 00:19:47.602 This is truth and error. 00:19:47.602 --> 00:19:49.912 This is of God and of the devil. 00:19:49.912 --> 00:19:54.862 This is where the Spirit operates versus the haunt of demons. 00:19:54.862 --> 00:19:57.660 We're not talking some vague, small thing; 00:19:57.660 --> 00:20:01.700 we're talking about very foundational matters. 00:20:01.700 --> 00:20:05.700 Now look, I know there have been times in history 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:10.420 where there have been certain individuals 00:20:10.420 --> 00:20:18.671 that stayed in the Catholic church 00:20:18.671 --> 00:20:24.591 or they stayed in the Anglican church, 00:20:24.591 --> 00:20:28.014 and they held to the truth. 00:20:28.014 --> 00:20:35.132 Typically people who did that, Savrinola, they burned him. 00:20:35.132 --> 00:20:39.655 I mean, typically, the people that tried to hold on 00:20:39.655 --> 00:20:42.655 in the midst of those kinds of situations 00:20:42.655 --> 00:20:44.532 suffered great persecution; 00:20:44.532 --> 00:20:49.172 they were put to death, they were ostracized, you name it. 00:20:49.172 --> 00:20:51.963 Even the evangelicals that stayed in the Anglican church, 00:20:51.963 --> 00:20:53.713 they tended to be a minority, 00:20:53.713 --> 00:20:57.005 rocks were thrown at them, 00:20:57.005 --> 00:21:08.415 probably literally and not so literally. 00:21:08.415 --> 00:21:14.063 I guess the point is what we find here is 00:21:14.063 --> 00:21:18.593 God is calling His people out of false religion, 00:21:18.593 --> 00:21:21.128 and I really believe that if you study Babylon, 00:21:21.128 --> 00:21:23.338 if you study that harlot... 00:21:23.338 --> 00:21:26.182 A lot of our forefathers have thought 00:21:26.182 --> 00:21:29.902 it spoke of Catholicism and the priests. 00:21:29.902 --> 00:21:35.435 I would say Catholicism is just one among many antichrists 00:21:35.435 --> 00:21:38.435 that are representative of false religion. 00:21:38.435 --> 00:21:43.156 There was a day when the Pope and Catholicism 00:21:43.156 --> 00:21:46.156 seemed to be the main enemy. 00:21:46.156 --> 00:21:50.307 Today we might look at it and say Islam may be, 00:21:50.307 --> 00:21:54.347 although if you talk to Ryan, 00:21:54.347 --> 00:21:58.191 he probably still sees Catholicism... 00:21:58.191 --> 00:22:00.721 I think what we basically see is this: 00:22:00.721 --> 00:22:03.102 If you're in Romania, it's Eastern Orthodox; 00:22:03.102 --> 00:22:06.102 if you're in Russia, it's Eastern Orthodox, 00:22:06.102 --> 00:22:09.807 if you're in Tibet, it's Buddhism, 00:22:09.807 --> 00:22:12.807 if you're in India, it's Hinduism, 00:22:12.807 --> 00:22:17.740 Basically what you have is a picture of false religion, 00:22:17.740 --> 00:22:21.930 and God is calling His people out. 00:22:21.930 --> 00:22:26.286 And the truth is, 00:22:26.286 --> 00:22:29.506 that if somebody is in one of those systems 00:22:29.506 --> 00:22:33.776 and they simply do not have the ability to see the difference 00:22:33.776 --> 00:22:36.082 between the true Gospel 00:22:36.082 --> 00:22:39.062 and that which is a corrupt perversion, 00:22:39.062 --> 00:22:43.742 then there is probably a very great likelihood they're not converted, 00:22:43.742 --> 00:22:47.420 because one of the things we find that happens 00:22:47.420 --> 00:22:51.840 is that the Spirit of God opens men's eyes. 00:22:51.840 --> 00:22:55.825 They're no longer blind. They now have the ability to see. 00:22:55.825 --> 00:22:58.265 The Scriptures come alive. 00:22:58.265 --> 00:23:00.025 We actually find various Scriptures 00:23:00.025 --> 00:23:02.125 scattered through the New Testament 00:23:02.125 --> 00:23:07.687 that show us that we're taught of God. 00:23:07.687 --> 00:23:10.311 The problem is that if it's difficult for people 00:23:10.311 --> 00:23:13.311 to give up their old beliefs, 00:23:13.311 --> 00:23:16.146 it's because they have not come to a new belief. 00:23:16.146 --> 00:23:18.823 Because that's exactly what faith is: 00:23:18.823 --> 00:23:26.313 Faith is beholding in Christ the answer to my sin 00:23:26.313 --> 00:23:28.843 that I never found in anything else, 00:23:28.843 --> 00:23:33.445 the answer to my eternal glory, to my joy, 00:23:33.445 --> 00:23:36.755 to what is seen in Christ as something precious 00:23:36.755 --> 00:23:40.322 that I never found in anything else. 00:23:40.322 --> 00:23:43.335 What you're saying is no different than saying 00:23:43.335 --> 00:23:46.885 a guy given to pornography for his whole life 00:23:46.885 --> 00:23:49.719 it's very difficult for him to give up 00:23:49.719 --> 00:23:52.659 what he loved so much for all those years. 00:23:52.659 --> 00:23:55.275 It's the same thing. 00:23:55.275 --> 00:23:56.605 When Jesus Christ comes along, 00:23:56.605 --> 00:23:59.219 what in the world do we think salvation is? 00:23:59.219 --> 00:24:03.570 Salvation is being saved from those things. 00:24:03.570 --> 00:24:07.332 It's being saved from the power of sin. 00:24:07.347 --> 00:24:10.254 It says it very clearly in Romans 6, 00:24:10.254 --> 00:24:13.254 sin shall not have dominion over you. 00:24:13.254 --> 00:24:23.940 Jesus Christ comes along to save people to the uttermost. 00:24:23.940 --> 00:24:30.114 Not to leave them lingering, hovering over these things 00:24:30.114 --> 00:24:33.884 and going on with their spiritual adultery and fornication, 00:24:33.884 --> 00:24:36.740 that's why He says come out from among them. 00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:41.420 Come out from among all that whoredom, 00:24:41.420 --> 00:24:47.499 and that adultery and fornication in a spiritual sense, come out. 00:24:47.499 --> 00:24:53.271 Do you realize what's happening when the church of LDS meets? 00:24:53.271 --> 00:24:58.845 It's a room full of whores committing spiritual idolatry. 00:24:58.845 --> 00:25:07.096 When a Catholic church gets together, it is whoredom. 00:25:07.096 --> 00:25:11.126 It is spiritual adultery. 00:25:11.126 --> 00:25:16.568 People committing lewd acts of spiritual abomination. 00:25:16.568 --> 00:25:18.603 That's what it is. 00:25:18.603 --> 00:25:23.033 When people put their affection and attention 00:25:23.033 --> 00:25:26.033 on writings other than the Scriptures, 00:25:26.033 --> 00:25:28.537 saviors other than Christ, 00:25:28.537 --> 00:25:31.197 gods who are not the God of the Bible, 00:25:31.197 --> 00:25:34.447 the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 00:25:34.447 --> 00:25:40.099 when they turn and lay their trust and lay their hope, 00:25:40.099 --> 00:25:43.769 you just read what God says about the Jews 00:25:43.769 --> 00:25:47.839 when they worshiped other gods, 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.229 up under every green tree; 00:25:50.229 --> 00:25:54.229 He uses language that is graphic, 00:25:54.229 --> 00:25:57.229 because that's how it is to Him. 00:25:57.229 --> 00:26:01.426 It's like a married woman going out 00:26:01.426 --> 00:26:04.426 and finding another man not her husband 00:26:04.426 --> 00:26:08.119 and committing all sorts of lewd acts 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:14.089 and indescribable sexual abominations and perversions 00:26:14.089 --> 00:26:18.991 selling herself cheap, giving herself, 00:26:18.991 --> 00:26:23.651 and I'm not even coming up to Biblical descriptions 00:26:23.651 --> 00:26:34.749 (response from the room - inaudible) 00:26:34.749 --> 00:26:37.197 Yes, there's idolatry of all sorts. 00:26:37.197 --> 00:26:43.227 But the fact is, false religion is the devil's playground, 00:26:43.227 --> 00:26:48.742 and God calls us to come out from among it. 00:26:48.742 --> 00:26:51.441 But the thing is, false religion can be like Islam, 00:26:51.441 --> 00:26:53.751 or it can be like Joel Osteen. 00:26:53.751 --> 00:26:55.730 It can be the faith movement, 00:26:55.730 --> 00:27:00.420 health, wealth and prosperity, or it can be the Amish. 00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:03.168 I mean, it's got every look under the sun. 00:27:03.168 --> 00:27:05.067 The Wilkenson's were just telling us Sunday 00:27:05.067 --> 00:27:08.067 about the people who dress in grey; 00:27:08.067 --> 00:27:12.408 it can look like that or it can look like Benny Hinn. 00:27:12.408 --> 00:27:17.928 It's everything in between. 00:27:17.946 --> 00:27:25.560 Anyway, that's it for tonight.