[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.10,0:00:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Former Los Angeles Zoo] Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.84,0:00:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always thought this might have been\Nwhere they kept the lions. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.20,0:00:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the '60s and '70s, my parents took us to zoos. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.43,0:00:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they always made me sad. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.52,0:00:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I had a friend who took his daughter\Nto the zoo, Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.14,0:00:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said,\N"Why would you do such a thing," Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.55,0:00:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and show someone--a child--" Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.27,0:00:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That this is the way we behave toward nature." Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.33,0:00:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said,\N"Well, where else will she see a giraffe?" Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.40,0:00:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said,\N"Well, maybe she shouldn't see a giraffe!" Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.90,0:00:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe the only place you should see a giraffe Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.80,0:00:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is on National Geographic. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.10,0:00:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe that's why we have National Geographic,\Nyou know? Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.32,0:00:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch nature documentaries. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.22,0:00:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ric O'Barry always says that it makes them\Nakin to psychotic Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.06,0:00:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you put an animal in a space like this-- Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.92,0:01:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That has a little bit of that, sort of,\NChernobyl-esque quality to it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.19,0:01:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's a… Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.18,0:01:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a different kind of disaster. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.55,0:01:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, this isn’t...\NThis is ongoing. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.13,0:01:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My life as an activist is one that is anti-captivity. Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.10,0:01:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Welcome to Taiji"]\N[Post-production and editing: Diana Thater] Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.24,0:01:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I worked for the Dolphin Project--\NRic O’Barry-- Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.80,0:01:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the work was to stop the capture and\Nsale of cetaceans Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.82,0:01:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to marine parks and animal amusements. Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.66,0:01:39.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't done any activist work since 2010. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.36,0:01:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I sort of feel a loss of that in my life. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.58,0:01:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Delphine" (1999)] Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.28,0:01:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't put the politics of activism and the\Npolitics of my work together. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.72,0:01:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it makes a muddle. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.32,0:02:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My life as an artist is a different one. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.54,0:02:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The politics are much more subtle. Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.66,0:02:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you make films about the natural world\Nthat aren't narrative Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.52,0:02:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the problem-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.96,0:02:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS] there's no narrative. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.90,0:02:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what are you editing for? Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.96,0:02:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you just put one image of a dolphin\Nafter another image of a dolphin? Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.45,0:02:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all great. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.72,0:02:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You film dolphins,\Nevery image you get is fantastic. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.19,0:02:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to figure out ways to put images\Nnext to one another Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.45,0:02:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that requires that you think about time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.26,0:02:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you keep throwing the viewer\Nback at themselves Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.78,0:02:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they don't get lost in something? Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.01,0:02:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want people to lose themselves\Nin a story. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.11,0:02:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's say an installation like "Delphine," Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.83,0:02:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything is trying to push or foreground-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.75,0:02:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or make possible-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.89,0:03:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherein you can see a dolphin spinning underwater Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.08,0:03:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can almost feel it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.29,0:03:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the kind of, sort of, sympathetic\Nresponse I'm interested in. Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.74,0:03:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People do often talk about pleasure, Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.07,0:03:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about beauty in the work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.14,0:03:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you're in that, sort of, ecstatic place Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.80,0:03:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that place where you're contemplating beauty, Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.62,0:03:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you are fully within yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.21,0:03:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to be conscious of your body. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.44,0:03:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like for humans to recognize Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.46,0:03:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they belong to a complicated\Nand complex ecosystem Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.59,0:03:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that includes all kinds of other beings. Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.46,0:03:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just because we can't communicate verbally Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.88,0:03:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't mean we can't\Ncommunicate in other ways. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.77,0:03:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I want to form a possible model\Nfor communication Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.96,0:04:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through this, kind of,\Nsympathetic bodily adventure. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.08,0:04:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really important to me to be able to\Ndo something Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.44,0:04:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to, sort of, better the conditions of animals, Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.81,0:04:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also to better the conditions of humanity.