[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.06,0:00:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Steve Bruner) \NAlright, welcome to the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.00,0:00:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New York City meetup! Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.68,0:00:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so tonight we are going to have Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.41,0:00:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sveta present about accessibility with websites. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.34,0:00:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NHi, everyone! Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.75,0:00:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Sveta. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.06,0:00:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually it's short for Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.77,0:00:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a longer version of my name. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.09,0:00:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm originally from Russia, \Nthat's why I have such a long name. Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.09,0:00:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And i'm presenting about web \Naccessibility - something i'm very Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.07,0:00:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in as a deaf person. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.06,0:00:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As someone who is disabled, \Nnaturally I'm very interested in Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.03,0:00:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,web accessibility. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.08,0:00:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is a logo created by some university Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.04,0:00:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that represent accessibility. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.04,0:00:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because not everyone uses a wheelchair, \Nthere are people who are blind or deaf, Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.05,0:01:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have cognitive disabilities Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.08,0:01:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well who aren't necessarily \Nrepresented by the wheelchair logo Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.07,0:01:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's usually used for accessibility. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.07,0:01:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have the eye, the hand, and the ear, \Nand the brain to represent cognitive abilities as well. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.05,0:01:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I am sure you all know who Tim Berners-Lee is. \NIs there anyone who doesn't know? Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.03,0:01:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who knows who he is? Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.00,0:01:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK many of you know who he is - \Nand this is a quote from him: Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.01,0:01:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The power of the web is in its \Nuniversality. Access by everyone Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.02,0:01:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regardless of disability is \Nan essential aspect." Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.03,0:01:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the early days of the web Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.06,0:01:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was actually more accessible than now Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.09,0:01:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because most of the websites were text and links, Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.08,0:01:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not very many images and videos. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.37,0:01:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there wasn't a lot of audio, but today Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.10,0:02:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,97% of websites are not accessible. Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.04,0:02:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many people who are blind. \NThey think: "Oh they can just Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.05,0:02:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use screen readers. That's good enough \Nfor them." But actually the web, Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.09,0:02:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sites must be coded Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.72,0:02:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to be compatible with screen \Nreaders, or people Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.00,0:02:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can't use a mouse, Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.35,0:02:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or who can't use a keyboard, \Nneed other devices. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.07,0:02:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Automatic captions are not very \Naccessible for deaf people. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.07,0:02:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So 97% of websites as a \Nresult are not accessible. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.69,0:02:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe people think that people with \Ndisabilities are a small group of people, Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.84,0:02:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually disabled people can \Nconstitute the largest minority group - Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.08,0:02:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than foreigners Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.61,0:02:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the market here for people \Nin the United States Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.36,0:02:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is $1 trillion. Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.64,0:02:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's double the spending power \Nof teenagers. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.47,0:02:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Worldwide, people with \Ndisabilities constitute Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.67,0:03:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a $ 4 trillion market place. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.20,0:03:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's almost the size of China. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.20,0:03:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's a really important group of \Npeople that should not be ignored. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.62,0:03:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just people with disabilities Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.74,0:03:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who benefit from web accessibility \Nas you see from these pictures. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.94,0:03:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have a mother with a stroller and \Nalso a businessperson carrying Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.89,0:03:24.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a roller suitcase. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.61,0:03:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ramps are actually very helpful \Nfor people in all these situations. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.46,0:03:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also benefits people who use carts \Nor any sort of wheeled devices. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.07,0:03:40.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ramps and elevators help Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.51,0:03:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people as well. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.10,0:03:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not just for people \Nwho are using wheelchairs. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.08,0:03:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also captions not only benefit people \Nwho are deaf. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.08,0:03:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speakers of foreign languages also Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.02,0:03:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benefit from captions. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.06,0:03:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who are developing \Ntheir literacy skills or Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.03,0:03:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if someone's in some sort \Nof noisy environment and Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.02,0:04:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to watch something \Nquietly on the web, Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.66,0:04:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's another reason why captions \Nfor videos are so important. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.10,0:04:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In talking about the spending power \Nof people who have disabilities Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.97,0:04:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't only affect people with \Ndisabilities, but their friends and Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.69,0:04:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family members as well. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.06,0:04:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If products and services are \Nnot accessible Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.27,0:04:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you lose those extra clientele \Nas well because Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.00,0:04:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have 2 billion people worldwide Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.03,0:04:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are connected to people with disabilities. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.21,0:04:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That constitutes a disposable income \Nof $8 trillion. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.43,0:04:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's another benefit. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.91,0:04:41.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The devices that can help Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.69,0:04:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people with independence in terms of \Ncomputers or mobile phones - Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.97,0:04:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have a large audience. \NThis participation, Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.09,0:04:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this increased market opportunity, Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.05,0:04:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also having a positive image, \Nnot just waiting for someone to sue you Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.65,0:04:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because your website is inaccessible. Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.09,0:05:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If u show that you're making \Nan investment for accessibility, Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.07,0:05:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a much better better investment than \Nspending money on a lawsuit later. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.50,0:05:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Improved visibility is another benefit, \Nand also higher search engines results. Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.03,0:05:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking of search engines - Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.16,0:05:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the largest accessibility needs \Nuser on the Internet, Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.04,0:05:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Google, Yahoo!, and Bing - Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.17,0:05:33.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those sites can't see images and \Nthey really rely on captioning Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.06,0:05:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the images. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.06,0:05:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If a video doesn't have captions it \Ndoes not appear in search results, Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.94,0:05:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Google can't hear a video. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.00,0:05:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thus captioning and the tags Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.02,0:05:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are very important for \Nsearch engines. Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.03,0:05:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with javascript... Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.26,0:06:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes the code in javascript is not \Ncompatible with some keyboards as well. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.29,0:06:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many of you are familiar with Web \NAccessibility Guidelines? Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.25,0:06:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems that there are a number of you. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.14,0:06:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps it might be very \Noverwhelming because the list Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.29,0:06:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of guidelines is quite long Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.10,0:06:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even for myself I can be quite \Noverwhelmed with that, so people tend Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.08,0:06:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make these categorizations Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.04,0:06:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and create basic guidelines Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.00,0:06:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are described as \Nthe acronym P.O.U.R. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.88,0:06:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perceivable. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.42,0:06:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meaning blind people who \Ncan perceive the image, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.09,0:06:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they might need an audio to supplement, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.23,0:06:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or for people who can't hear, \Nthey rely on captions. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.64,0:06:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Operable. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.08,0:06:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Means people who use a keyboard Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.17,0:06:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sure that everything - \Nall the functions can be used Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.04,0:06:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a keyboard not just by a mouse. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.01,0:07:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to hover over something \Nto be able to see the option. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.38,0:07:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People can't rely on a mouse would then Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.57,0:07:07.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not be able to use that function. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.07,0:07:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Understandability. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.00,0:07:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Understandable means if text is there \Nto make sure that text is easily Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.93,0:07:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understood by any user. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.06,0:07:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though maybe you might think: Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.73,0:07:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, there's a YouTube video - \NYouTube has automatic captions - Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.07,0:07:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that might be good enough." Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.19,0:07:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But automatic actions are \Nusually unintelligible. They really Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.01,0:07:29.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do need to be cleaned up Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.47,0:07:33.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise most deaf people will not \Nbe able to understand them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.41,0:07:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robust. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.01,0:07:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Means something that's compatible with \Ncurrent and possibly future technologies. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.66,0:07:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now talking a little bit about how to \Nmake a website accessible in terms of Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.94,0:07:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the technical aspects. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.63,0:07:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The semantic web. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.72,0:07:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of the semantic web, \Ncontent is king. Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.01,0:07:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps someone has Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.08,0:08:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a fabulously beautiful looking website Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.64,0:08:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the functionality in the content \Nis weak. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.98,0:08:08.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have these three elements: \Nhtml, css, and javascript. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.35,0:08:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The html provides a very strong \Nfoundation first, Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.08,0:08:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you can use style sheets \Nwith css, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.98,0:08:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then javascript - it's probably Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.32,0:08:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,best to use javascript only \Nwhen necessary. Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.98,0:08:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know it might seem fun to add some more \Nfun functions, but Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.04,0:08:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the less javascript, the more accessible \Na website could be. Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.02,0:08:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many of you are familiar with Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.01,0:08:34.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that WordPress has this word 'role' - R-O-L-E Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.09,0:08:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- how many of you have noticed that in WordPress? Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.09,0:08:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few of you? Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.03,0:08:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've noticed that role Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.10,0:08:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equals main role banner Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.88,0:08:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought that perhaps some people think \Nyou can just delete that but that's very Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.95,0:08:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important part of the web accessibility. Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.10,0:08:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's some examples of role - Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.04,0:08:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like body, Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.00,0:09:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the role document, Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.00,0:09:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,header Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.08,0:09:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a role, banner, Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.01,0:09:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if main will have a role, main, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.08,0:09:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,footer has its content info. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.09,0:09:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So on the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.08,0:09:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,template keep the role, \Ndon't get rid of that. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.08,0:09:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are more examples \Nof this role as well. Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.09,0:09:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of the html structure, \Nit's important to have a good structure Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.07,0:09:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the website. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.03,0:09:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of you might Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.01,0:09:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,skip links, but it's important Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.02,0:09:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's in the top of the html page, Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.03,0:09:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because many people who use screenreaders Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.00,0:09:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want to hear link over and over.\Nagain for every page. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.06,0:09:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they prefer to have the option\Nof 'skip link' Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.02,0:09:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the main content or other parts\Nof the webpage. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.02,0:09:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can also hide that Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.06,0:10:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the css style sheets, Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.06,0:10:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but don't use 'display none' Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.00,0:10:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or 'visible none' Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.07,0:10:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that will cause the screenreader\Nnot to show the content. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.10,0:10:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you indent over - Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.05,0:10:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over position - Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.08,0:10:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you can hide Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.03,0:10:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those commands that only the screenreader \Nwill be able to distinguish. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.01,0:10:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talking about images - Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.10,0:10:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,navigation - all the navigation buttons\Nmust have bullets Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.09,0:10:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, and Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.06,0:10:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the screenreader. Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.08,0:10:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can style with css, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.06,0:10:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's important to have those \Nbullet points. Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.01,0:10:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Drop-down menus - it's best if you use\Nhtml and css not javascript for those. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.06,0:10:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have the drop downs in css, Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.01,0:11:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's also important to keep the drop\Ndowns limited to maybe two levels, Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.06,0:11:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the screenreader is going to repeat Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.00,0:11:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that over and over again. Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.05,0:11:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Header , , - Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.09,0:11:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's best to use that Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.07,0:11:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the content organization, not for\Ndecoration. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.01,0:11:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The keep that just for \Nthe page title, Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.00,0:11:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for subcategories - Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.03,0:11:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not using that for the menu Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.07,0:11:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or for anything other than Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.03,0:11:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just the content. Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.02,0:11:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really annoying to see \N'click here'. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.09,0:11:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To download you don't need that. Just\Nclick here to download is very annoying. Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.01,0:11:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or click here to download with check list. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.02,0:11:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can just have download checklist and\Nthe kind of file that it is because the Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.06,0:11:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screenreader reads click here, click here,\Nand the screenreader isn't sure what Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.02,0:11:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're clicking for. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.04,0:12:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the message, if it's just very clear - \Ndownload to a pdf - Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.00,0:12:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the person who is using the website\Nwill know to expect the certain Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.00,0:12:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of document. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.01,0:12:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the content text, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.09,0:12:18.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sure it can be resized in terms\Nof a percentage, or Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.01,0:12:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the terms of em. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.02,0:12:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This way people who have low vision, Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.09,0:12:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have some vision but can't see very\Nwell, can resize the text. Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.01,0:12:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Similarly on mobile devices, Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.02,0:12:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't have frames, Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.09,0:12:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,image maps, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.03,0:12:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or layout tables. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.01,0:12:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are very hard for screenreaders\Nto be able to detect. Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.04,0:12:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Make sure that all functions can be\Naccessible all through the keyboard, Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.08,0:12:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that javascript - if you have to use it - Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.58,0:12:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's better if it's downgradable, Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.10,0:12:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then it there is a problem with\Njavascript the website is still functional. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.01,0:13:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Write in simple language using\Nbullet points. Most people - Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.04,0:13:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyone could have a disability,\Nor the general public doesn't Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.02,0:13:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily have as Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.02,0:13:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much time to spend reading Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.30,0:13:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of text on a web page. Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.09,0:13:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll also want to have the web\Nlayout consistent for each page. Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.05,0:13:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you need to, it's best to use\Nhtml 5 canvas instead of flash. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.06,0:13:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can make flash accessible, Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.02,0:13:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but html 5 is a better way to go. Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.07,0:13:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Flash is also not accessible\Nto users of iPhones and iPads anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.06,0:13:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about the images and logos. Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.06,0:13:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a lot of confusion between\N'alt' and 'title'. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.00,0:13:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alt means what you can't see. Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.04,0:13:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the title tag is an optional thing -\Nyou don't need to have that. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.06,0:13:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's an image that leads to \Nanother page, Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.66,0:14:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a logo on the top left of the\Nthe navigation, Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.50,0:14:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could have a description of what \Nthe image is. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.00,0:14:06.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Accessibility logo, for example, alt. Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.78,0:14:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the title will say "go to home page"\Nor going to a different website. Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.00,0:14:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the image is just decorative Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.04,0:14:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you can keep the alt empty, Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.01,0:14:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but don't remove it. \NJust had it there, but it doesn't need Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.98,0:14:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have anything in there. Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.05,0:14:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also no text in the graphics -\Nit's best to use Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.80,0:14:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,html for the text Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.53,0:14:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as screenreaders will not be able to\Nread the text inside of an image. Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.07,0:14:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Avoid image maps if possible, \Nthat would be the best. Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.06,0:14:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Providing text or shapes for a color button, Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.03,0:14:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i'll talk about color in a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.01,0:14:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't use strobing, flickering, or\Nany sort of optical illusion because Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.08,0:14:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who have seizures Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.54,0:14:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be sensitive to that, and they might not\Neven be able to see that or detect that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.04,0:14:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's something that's a slower Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.02,0:15:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pulsating type of image that could be ok, Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.31,0:15:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not something that's an optical illusion. Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.04,0:15:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I know maybe it's apropos \Nfor some websites but usually Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.06,0:15:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not very accessible. Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.06,0:15:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talking about color - Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.02,0:15:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one in ten men are color blind. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.00,0:15:18.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've met a lot of men Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.01,0:15:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are color blind,\Nbut actually I haven't met a woman Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.02,0:15:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is color blind, and statistically\Nit's only one in two hundred. Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.00,0:15:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you notice a subway map, Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.06,0:15:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,typically I'll say to my friend, oh I will take \Nthe green line, or take the red line, Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.10,0:15:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the orange line. Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.08,0:15:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I rarely will reference the number but if\Nsomeone's color blind it might be harder. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.04,0:15:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Red and green are typically colors\Nthat people who are color blind are Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.07,0:15:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sensitive to, Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.01,0:15:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yellow and blue not so much, Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.04,0:15:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and rare that you would see black \Nand white color blindness Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.09,0:15:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this is sort of an image \Nof what that might be like. Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.08,0:16:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you don't want to rely on color only. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.00,0:16:05.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example these buttons - Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.03,0:16:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stop and go here - Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.07,0:16:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can read it. It's a little hard, but\Nfor someone who is color blind, Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.09,0:16:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what it will look like. It just\Nlooks like brown on brown, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.08,0:16:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the text gets lost \Nin the color. Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.01,0:16:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Contrast is a better way to make\Nsomething more accessible. Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.09,0:16:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether or not you want to add an image Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.00,0:16:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sure that someone is not\Nreliant on the color of the Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.05,0:16:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information for the information. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.08,0:16:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure you're familiar\Nthat facebook is blue. Do you know why? Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.05,0:16:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Mark Zuckerberg is actually\Ncolor blind, that's why facebook is blue. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.07,0:16:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just read about about that. \NI thought that was cool. Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.02,0:16:51.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of tables I'm not going to go Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.01,0:16:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into great depth in terms of the code Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.00,0:16:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but here's a summary about it because Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.01,0:16:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some tables are more simple, some are more complex. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.06,0:17:03.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is a summary just so you have \Na heads up about this. Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.06,0:17:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of captions Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.41,0:17:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to explain what's in the table Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.00,0:17:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, must be there for the header, Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.03,0:17:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and scope should be included. Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.02,0:17:24.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also CSS has specific rules for\Nthe table. Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.67,0:17:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tables should only be used for \Ntabular data - Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.07,0:17:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a spreadsheet or something that's\Nin a matrix format. Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.08,0:17:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They shouldn't be be used for layout. Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.00,0:17:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should just use css for the layout. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.02,0:17:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the past tables were used much more\Ncommonly but now not so much. Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.02,0:17:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of these tags for the heads,\Nbody, footer, Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.07,0:18:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can find more of these \Nin google or online in other places. Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.01,0:18:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Forms. Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.08,0:18:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's important to have labels\Nfor the input. Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.10,0:18:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is also good because the screenreader\Nuser is reliant on the keyboard. Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.02,0:18:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of us are relying on the keyboard\Nas well. Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.06,0:18:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 'label for' tag Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.01,0:18:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might only be for Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.08,0:18:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these small radio buttons. Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.01,0:18:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you use Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.01,0:18:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that means that you can also include Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.05,0:18:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the entire text. So if you click on the\Nword - Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.06,0:18:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that also gives you the selection as well.\NIt's great for the keyboard users Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.04,0:18:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people using screenreaders. Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.05,0:18:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you use groups like radio buttons Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.05,0:18:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,checkbox Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.03,0:18:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or setting up a field - . Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.02,0:18:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and , Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.04,0:19:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are basic rules for tables. Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.10,0:19:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we're talking about video and audio\Nand as a deaf person this is something Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.06,0:19:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've experienced a lot of frustration with -\Nmost videos online are not captioned. Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.17,0:19:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many video broadcasts are not\Naccessible to deaf people. Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.03,0:19:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people think, well YouTube has Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.05,0:19:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,automatic captions - and I encorage people Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.04,0:19:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use YouTube not Vimeo. \NVimeo does not support captions at all, Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.15,0:19:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,YouTube has some captioning support. Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.06,0:19:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also recommend YouTube because\Nit's very easy to use and it's an easy way Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.05,0:19:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to add captions, but Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.01,0:19:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do not reply on the auto-captions Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.02,0:19:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.67,0:19:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really hard to understand, Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.10,0:19:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll show you in a moment an example. Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.01,0:19:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's important to have good quality \Ncaptions and transcript - Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.03,0:19:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just relying on speech recognition.\NYou could use that perhaps but make sure Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.03,0:19:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's cleaned up. Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.06,0:19:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or perhaps hire someone Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.07,0:20:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who can produce a good quality transcript Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.03,0:20:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beyond just what an automatic speech to\Ntext recognition can do. Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.67,0:20:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also if you use radio podcasts Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.17,0:20:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can have a good enough transcript for that, Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.10,0:20:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but make sure that you have \Nthe proper style - Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.06,0:20:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identifying speakers for example; \Nmake sure punctuation is correct; Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.07,0:20:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if there are any sound effects like \Nlaughter or playing music, that that Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.81,0:20:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information is included as well. \NBecause a deaf person is not going Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.00,0:20:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hear those audio cues. Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.03,0:20:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For videos you should have Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.01,0:20:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both captions and transcript\Navailable. Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.06,0:20:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reasoning is because if someone \Nis both deaf and blind Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.02,0:20:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're not going to be able to follow\Nthe transcripts - Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.08,0:20:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean the captions. Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.05,0:20:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They might be reliant on a braille\Ndisplay that pops up Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.03,0:21:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for them to be able to read the\Ntranscript as away to access the video. Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.08,0:21:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Transcripts benefit not only deaf Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.02,0:21:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people and deaf-blind people, \Nperhaps for an hour long video somebody Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.06,0:21:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be able to skim through the\Ntranscript a lot faster than watching Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.07,0:21:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the entire video. Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.09,0:21:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it really in general is best to have\Nboth the transcript and the captions. Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.01,0:21:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes you want to be able to watch\Nand hear the video, and then be able Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.04,0:21:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to read the captions, Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.07,0:21:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without first watching the video Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.04,0:21:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just read the transcript. Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.17,0:21:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as it's important to have \Nthe audio and video in sync, Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.03,0:21:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's important the captions \Nbe synced as well. Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.04,0:21:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of webinars Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.16,0:21:51.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's important to hire someone who's \Na professional transcriptionist, Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.09,0:21:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody who is professionally trained \Nfor that, Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.08,0:21:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they have 98% accuracy Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.06,0:22:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with 220 words per minute. Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.03,0:22:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the required speed and \Nnot everyone can do that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.01,0:22:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you want to have a video pick \Na player that supports captions, Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.08,0:22:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you want a transcript that may be \Ntoo much for you to do yourself - Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.06,0:22:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a popular service CastingWords - Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.02,0:22:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can use that for podcasts and Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.02,0:22:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also YouTube videos. Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.06,0:22:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's a time stamp, Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.07,0:22:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can then upload it to YouTube, Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.04,0:22:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they have a way that you can sync \Nticket options with the video. Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.10,0:22:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have more information on my own website. Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.02,0:22:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Usually I'll give a one hour \Npresentation on this kind of information Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.15,0:22:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm only touching on points here. Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.04,0:22:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to show you why automatic captions \Nare not reliable. Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.10,0:23:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no sound on purpose, \Njust for you to watch it. Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.06,0:23:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I've actually listened with a person Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.06,0:23:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who could hear whether the captions matched, Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.08,0:24:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said that it didn't. Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.07,0:24:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The speech recognition is just \Nrelying on a machine. Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.08,0:24:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's good that it does something, Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.01,0:24:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's hard to rely on the auto-captions. Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.03,0:24:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most people think that it's no big deal, Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.37,0:24:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can just use that, but they do really Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.09,0:24:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to be cleaned up by a person. Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.07,0:24:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here's some general information. Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.92,0:24:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WebAIM is a great resource Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.00,0:24:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for making your websites accessible, Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.09,0:24:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and very clearly presented, \Nthe information there. Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.92,0:24:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you'd like to have an evaluation tool Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.41,0:24:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a very popular site - WAVE - Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.05,0:24:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed by the WerbAIM team. Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.02,0:24:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do have that on my computer and \Nit's very helpful. Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.03,0:24:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not 100% reliable or accurate. Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.02,0:25:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes it might miss \Ncertain elements of the site. Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.02,0:25:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firefox also has accessibility \Nextensions, Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.08,0:25:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the WAI has a lot of \Ndifferent tools here. Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.07,0:25:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Captioning, if you're more curious \Nabout that, Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.92,0:25:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do have a website here with Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.01,0:25:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of information and my contact\Ninformation is there as well. Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.04,0:25:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If anyone has any questions? Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.08,0:25:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member)\NAre there any WordPress templates Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.54,0:25:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and/or plugins that you recommend\Nas being very accessible? Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.04,0:25:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter)\NI'd have to google it in terms of\Naccessibility and WordPress.. Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.02,0:25:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member)\NAnything that you've used or come across Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.05,0:25:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're really comfortable with? Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.08,0:26:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter)\NI've just started using WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.07,0:26:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,earlier this year so i'm not as familiar. Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.02,0:26:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member)\NWhat websites are potentially liable to being sued Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.00,0:26:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for not being accessible, and for what period? Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.06,0:26:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter)\NThere are so many. Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.55,0:26:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, ninety seven percent of web sites\Nare not accesible, Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.02,0:26:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, Netflix. Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.05,0:26:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The deaf community's actually suing,\Nin process with a lawsuit right now with Netflix Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.00,0:26:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they refused to caption Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.02,0:26:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their streaming videos. Their dvds have captions, \Nbut they don't have streaming captions. Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.05,0:26:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CNN is also involved in a lawsuit right now, Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.02,0:26:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have captions on television but they\Ndon't have captions on their web content. Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.01,0:26:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that blind people, they sued\NTarget. There was a blind community Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.68,0:27:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved in a lawsuit against \Nthe Target website. Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.04,0:27:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NSo there's some examples, and like I say \Nit's a better investment Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.02,0:27:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make their website accessible than \Nbe liable and possibly be spending money Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.01,0:27:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a lawsuit later. Are there any ways of tracking, Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.07,0:27:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using Google analytics, to see how many access-challenged \Nusers are coming to your site Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.02,0:27:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can say to a client, \Nyou need to address this? Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.10,0:27:45.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NI don't think there's any way Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.01,0:27:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to track using Google analytics. \NI think user testing is the only way Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.03,0:27:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really track accessibility, Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.02,0:27:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these accessibility valuation tools. Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.08,0:27:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NAren't there separate browsers Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.04,0:28:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can be used by accessibility... Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.08,0:28:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NWhat do you mean? Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.09,0:28:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NUh... for the speech, Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.01,0:28:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can read through.. Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.07,0:28:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are certain browsers that can.. Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.10,0:28:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, if you need it read to you, \N\N0:28:18.430,0:28:25.430\Nyou can..use that browser,but I'm not sure \Nif it's capturable in analytics. Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.10,0:28:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NNo, not that I'm aware. Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.09,0:28:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the same concept as if you \Ndesign a regular website, Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.06,0:28:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your user experience is not just \Nabout the people who are disabled but Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.06,0:28:51.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might try to have some user testing \Nto see whether or not Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.09,0:28:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the website conforms to the expectations Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.07,0:28:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a certain user group that's very similar Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.00,0:28:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to people who are disabled. Dialogue: 0,0:28:59.00,0:29:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only really way to find out is \Nthe survey people with Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.31,0:29:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disabilities and get their feedback. Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.04,0:29:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NThat's one of the questions I am asking about \Ndevelopers asking the disabled community Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.03,0:29:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to do certain things. \NI mean, I am beginning to lose my vision, Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.10,0:29:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've found it's very difficult \Nto get somebody to say, Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.02,0:29:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, it's very easy Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.06,0:29:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do this because I see other technology Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.07,0:29:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being used broadly and maybe \Nthe inference about ramps, Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.04,0:29:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well everybody uses ramps and \Nit's part of the culture Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.91,0:29:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just about accessibility and those \Nwho need it and it's really for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.01,0:30:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NI'm sorry. Is that a comment or a question? Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.01,0:30:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NThe question is ... Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.07,0:30:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you get people's minds Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.04,0:30:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrapped around that you should be \Ndeveloping for everybody all the time, Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.06,0:30:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than to step back and say \NI'm going to do this site for blind people, Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.05,0:30:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to do this site for deaf people. \NIt's just that why shouldn't you just Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.05,0:30:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,include all these accessibility tools \Nas part of your regular development? Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.05,0:30:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NWell, because people aren't aware Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.00,0:30:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless they have had that \Nexplicitly explained to them Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.07,0:30:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it a deaf person I might say well I need \Ncaptions, but I might be perceived Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.04,0:30:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being just one deaf person asking for that. Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.05,0:30:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People don't realize that captions \Nbenefit speakers of other languages. Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.09,0:30:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents have perfect hearing Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.02,0:30:55.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but their first language is Russian, \Nnot English, Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.01,0:30:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they watch television with the \Ncaptions on, Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.00,0:31:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it helps them understand and \Nlearn English better, Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.06,0:31:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The disability market is huge Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.00,0:31:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so they shouldn't be overlooked. Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.05,0:31:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who are becoming older, \Nyou'll notice the baby boomers Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.07,0:31:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are now a very large segment of the \Npopulation and and more and more of them Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.01,0:31:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are developing disabilities as they age. Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.00,0:31:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I mean it's not easy, Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.05,0:31:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can overload people with statistics. \NPeople who care tend to really Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.03,0:31:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make the investment, and others Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.01,0:31:32.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't, they won't. Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.01,0:31:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to do responsive, Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.01,0:31:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,type of reactive design, or \Nbe like people who want to Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.01,0:31:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,develop based on user experience? \NThose are two different Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.01,0:31:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approaches that people can take. Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.26,0:31:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NNo. I am just making, I guess, the comment \Nthat the very fact that you are here Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.02,0:32:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,raises the fact that a lot of people in \Nthis room probably never even thought about - Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.07,0:32:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean that may be just an assumption on my part, but - \NI think this is just a way of raising Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.07,0:32:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the awareness for the rest of the community. Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.03,0:32:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NYes, right. And, for me, I'm a sighted person Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.06,0:32:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but sometimes, if a page is slow to load, Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.05,0:32:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still like to have the description \Nof the image Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.56,0:32:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I might shut off images Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.20,0:32:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and still want to to be able \Nto see what it is to make it Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.77,0:32:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,load the page faster. \N\N0:32:33.270,0:32:36.429\NJust having "something dot jpg" Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.43,0:32:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't necessarily going to be very helpful. Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.78,0:32:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It helps the searchability Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.04,0:32:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well if those tags are there in the \Ndescriptions. Even though I am not Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.05,0:32:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blind I benefit Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.17,0:32:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from accessibility for blind users. Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.03,0:32:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even with captions, people think well \Nthey don't need that, Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.07,0:33:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then later on when they use them, \Nthey'll realize how they Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.00,0:33:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciate it and they wish \Nthey had used them earlier. Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.07,0:33:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there was some in the back \Nwith a question? Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.02,0:33:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NI was just wanting to respond to something that \Nthe gentleman up there said earlier Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.02,0:33:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about why include it in everything that you do \Nas kind of a default thing. Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.05,0:33:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well why do we include mobile versions \Nand responsive versions of sites \N\N0:33:25.770,0:33:28.210\Nby default? I think it should be treated \Nthe same way. I'm not arguing with you. (laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.02,0:33:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NThat's a good point. Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.09,0:33:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member)\NCould you speak more about \N\N0:33:40.419,0:33:43.200\Nresponsive design? Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.00,0:33:45.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you saying that responsive has Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.01,0:33:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a better capability for the disabled? Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.09,0:33:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NWell, not exactly. It can overlap, Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.92,0:34:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not exactly. Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.02,0:34:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if you use mobile phones Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.02,0:34:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the code is not compatible Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.12,0:34:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a mobile phone, I'm not sure how \Nexactly people with limited vision Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.56,0:34:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even use the mobile phone. That's still new \Nfor me but that's another example Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.53,0:34:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of having the code be compatible for Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.09,0:34:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what shows up on a mobile phone. Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.12,0:34:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know how people with disabilities use \Nan actual standard computer. I'm not as Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.38,0:34:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,familiar with people with disabilities \Nusing mobile devices. Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.44,0:34:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NThis is more in reference to \Nhow do we make accessibility Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.44,0:34:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more standard. I think we are \Nat a good time now with html 5, Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.44,0:34:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,css 3, and all these new additions. \NThey are still in the works of Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.44,0:35:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being the global rule of the land, \Ncompared to how html was very much Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.44,0:35:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do it until it looks right kind of thing, \Nso right now, if we do push for it Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.44,0:35:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in as many places as we can \NI think it will potentially be more.. Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.60,0:35:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NCorrect, but that isn't enough. Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.33,0:35:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to remember also about color - Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.56,0:35:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not just about coding, Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.72,0:35:26.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also about the design, \Nand the visual aspects Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.78,0:35:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the website as well. Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.07,0:35:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NThat's a good point, thanks. Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.89,0:35:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member)\NAre there tools? \NAs a designer and front end developer, Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.02,0:35:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm always using tools like browser stats and \Nfrom other devices because you can't Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.02,0:35:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibly have all the devices.. \Nand this is something I need Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.02,0:35:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to consider that there's even more \Ndevices that I'm designing for Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.02,0:35:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're not even looking at. \NSo I'm wondering if there are tools Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.02,0:35:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that as developers we can access to \Nget an experience of what Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.02,0:36:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a disabled person may be seeing. Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.26,0:36:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NYes. You can download the free tools. Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.79,0:36:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if you have a Mac, Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.32,0:36:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mac has screen reader software already \Nbuilt in. I just found this out. Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.27,0:36:28.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is captioning support too \Nwhich i was really amazed at. I'm curious Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.47,0:36:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as to what the screenreader with captioning is \Ngoing to look like. Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.80,0:36:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Mac screenreader also has captions, Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.34,0:36:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's telling me what it says. \NIt's really cool. So if you have a Mac Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.45,0:36:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you use the VoiceOver Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.07,0:36:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the Mac feature Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.05,0:36:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can select as an option. Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.50,0:36:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think in windows, I'm not sure what \Nit's called because i don't use windows Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.23,0:36:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there might be something that's Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.57,0:36:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,parallel that does Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.08,0:37:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same thing for windows. Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.05,0:37:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NCan I just comment, add to that? Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.05,0:37:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I do use windows, can I just \Nfollow up, is that ok? Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.29,0:37:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NSure, go ahead. Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.83,0:37:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Audience Member) \NOK. On windows there are a couple of speech Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.83,0:37:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detects software. One is called Natural \NReader, that will read the text on a page, Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.83,0:37:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detects software. One is called Natural \NReader, that will read the text on a page, Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.60,0:37:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also turn it into a wav file, so that \Nyou can automatically... Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.38,0:37:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it will read through the copy you've \Nwritten, turn it into a wav file, and Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.17,0:37:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can repost it on the site. So you've \Nautomatically turned it into something for Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.04,0:37:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who can't see but would like to \Nhear what you've just written. Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.60,0:37:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sveta voiced by an interpreter) \NThank you for saying, that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.57,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, I think that's it (Applause)