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the 2015 polyglot gathering is brought

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to you by I talkie become fluent in any

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language

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ever Gaja on more games non mahir nobody

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gets people going actually when I start

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singing my dulcet tones okay so thank

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you all for for coming

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I feel very lucky to have so many people

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in the room and so some of you are

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probably sitting in this audience

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thinking I'm not I need to finger of

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English what the hell am I doing here

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hands are fifty fall into that category

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Oh actually okay not as many as I

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thought so they probably all gone to

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somewhere else more interesting so in

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case you didn't recognize me this is me

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my name is Richardson cop for those of

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you don't know who I am and then I quite

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like languages and that's why I'm here

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today and these are a few the things

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that I'm engaged in online speaking

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fluently actually the Facebook page is

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probably more active and the polyglot

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workshops and polyglot conference which

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I'm sure some of you in the room may

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have heard of and but my story today

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about learning language is a native

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English speaker that doesn't actually

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just hold true for speakers of English

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as a native language it actually goes

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beyond the borders of other countries as

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well where there's a dominant single

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language and they don't tend to learn

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many of the languages or any of the

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languages so hopefully they'll be

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relevance in this for other people the

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idea and the goal for me is to actually

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explain some of the difficulties in

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learning languages for people from these

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countries particularly from my

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experience as a native English speaker

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that from the United Kingdom

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and I hope that it will help to make

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people and/or understand and be more

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aware of of those difficulties so they

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can help language learners when they're

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speaking to them

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so that's the the goal for me for this

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talk but let me just demonstrate what I

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mean by this not being true just for

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native English speakers and for other

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people with a little story so a Spanish

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man walks into a clothes shop in London

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and he goes he wants to buy some socks

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so he walks in he says I'll allow one at

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the EM get a comparable didn't I put

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forward he's from the south of Spain and

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then the shopkeeper looks for in case

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I'm sorry I don't understand what you're

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talking about

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it's red posh and Spanish guys like

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quiero comprar una cadena sport for

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speaking out a little more clearly and

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the English guys well it's a closed shop

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so it's gonna want clothes isn't he so

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comes back with a shirt he goes no no no

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no no es una camisa yo quiero calafate

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Ynez por favor

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see okay pop see wrong so comes back

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with a pair of trousers no no no no no

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es un pantalones

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yo quiero calcetines por favor see Chris

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back again eventually comes back with a

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pair of socks he goes s o ck s because

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we bloody knew how to spell it in

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English why don't you do that in the

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first place so as you can see this isn't

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a thing just for the native English

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speakers so one thing that we always

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hear is what you call somebody who

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speaks many languages what we call them

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oh yeah first one up that was very good

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who would have known you'd have said

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that first Oh

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multilingual or Luxembourgish right

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representing the looks and burgers how

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many in the room there we go

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they don't need to be here they're

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already experts what you call somebody

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who speaks two or three languages well

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there we go look at this

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bilingual it's like you wrote these

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flies it's amazing okay I'll go thinking

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man thana but saying Apple and what do

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you call someone who speaks one language

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I love it it's like you really seriously

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oestrogen and there's a lovely flag that

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I found thank you google okay so but why

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why do English natives find it so hard

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to learn language why why is that a

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problem well through this presentation I

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wanted to discuss the following things

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grammar vocab accent pronunciation

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practice picking a language oops and

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we'll start with grammar but let's just

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look through that quickly

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whoa so these are all aspects of what

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makes it difficult and as I say this

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applies not just to native English

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speakers but to other people as well

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people who are native speakers of other

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languages but why why is this problem

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well from my point of view speaking as a

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native English speaker born and raised

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in the United Kingdom

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grama is a problem because in English we

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don't have gender in the same way as we

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do in other languages so when you get to

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Loula in French lessons and people say

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the wrong gender and then you get to

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German you think okay I've cracked this

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gender with French okay it's lawful as

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you see nota an old form yep a problema

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Mia

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duh skinned vow home why is it neuter

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why is it then change gender in German

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all of this is kind of weird for native

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English speakers and you often hear that

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they'll make mistakes with the gender

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because it's for this reason but this

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also applies to finish speakers to

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Turkish speakers who don't have gender

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as well in their languages verbs

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English speakers fluff the verbs that

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they already have and they don't change

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that much anyway and through the the

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pronoun so you know I see you see he

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sees oh wow big change but you know then

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you get to some of the Latin languages

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and the changes are huge they are

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there's beer very much

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etc etc etc in case oh I love the

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reaction in the roof who likes cases you

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sick sick sick individuals seriously

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there is something we can do for you

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later it's in the back room I think

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there's a talk on Esperanto it's only

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got one case so you'll be quite happy

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but it will make it a lot easier ok

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grammatical rules and terminology when I

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went to university in the UK I went to

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study languages so who here thinks that

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language students tend to be quite good

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at grammatical terminology and what

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things mean and getting nods you see

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it's the wrong audience for these things

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people going yeah definitely they're all

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fantastic one of the first things that

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they did is took us all aside and said

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ok we need to teach you English grammar

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because you don't get taught it in the

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school in the UK you're not taught

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English grammar in the same way as you

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you're taught French grammar or German

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grammar so often you have a better

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understanding of of a foreign languages

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grammar than you will of your own but

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that isn't that actually is is it is a

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problem because when you get to things

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like cases if you don't know what a

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direct object is then the accusative

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sounds really strange or an indirect

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object or who here is taught and what a

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verb is by saying it's a doing word what

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does that mean

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none of these or nouns and naming word

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ok and then you give a few examples that

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you need to write down in a test right

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that's it then you get to the vocabulary

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and it's vast it's often exotic unless

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you're talking about French and then

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it's basically 60% of English ok and

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this is my picture that I took in

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Albania just want to show you and such

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an attention [ __ ] that's terrible but

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it there the idea is the vastness you

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get me yet the imagery right but it is

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its vast I mean if you look at language

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and who has had people come up to you

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say ok I speak French or I speak German

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they go oh so you know everything right

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I get that all the time so so what's the

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word for this and then they'd like to

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test you so you can translate it but

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actually what they don't realize and

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what you don't realize yourself as a

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native speaker of a language is that

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sometimes what you need to do is a sort

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of a mind flip when you talk about

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vocabulary so you don't always have the

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words in the language that you're

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learning or language you're speaking

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just to give you an example I live in

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the Republic of Macedonia Macedonian is

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my home language but there's no word for

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bookmark they sell them they have them

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but there's no real word that people

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that use for bookmark there's no real

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word that everybody uses for chives

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there are these kind of bits of

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vocabulary that you want to say and then

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you don't really have a word so you have

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to bend your mind to express things in a

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way that the natives will understand and

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that is one of the big stumbling blocks

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for native English speakers because

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we're used to dominating with exact

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precision what we want to say and how we

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want to say it and you can't always do

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it the exotic thing relates to the

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sounds or how the word is made and and

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and whether it trips off the tongue

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whether it's easy to pronounce it can

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just sound weird to native English

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speakers and it can be confusing because

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sometimes very small change

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in a word means something completely

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different

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there's anyone got any good examples of

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words that they've heard there's a word

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for Cheers in Hungarian and a word that

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means something very different that's

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very close yes what is it come over and

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speak a con come on I take I take active

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volunteers you can come up you've just

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volunteered by saying it now here we go

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I know you love this I guess you gather

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- eggy zeg editor I guess sugar is

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choosing their gates check out those

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like to spank your ass person like that

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so look that's one Thank You Vlad okay

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thank you very much kissing him seven

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and one of the typical things I used to

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hear when I was at school as a school

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boy and in French was merci beaucoup

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instead of merci beaucoup so one is

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thank you beautiful bum and this leads

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me on to accent to pronunciation so

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especially for native English speakers

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but also again for other speakers of

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other languages this is true and there's

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kind of a sounding weird saying these

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things like saying these weird sounds

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that you sound it sounds a bit strange

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and to go and get it into the right word

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at the right time and then not

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overcompensate and say Mel C book you is

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not always easy for for a native English

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speaker because they don't always relate

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to okay how do I actually use this and

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make it sound normal and then when

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you're in a classroom environment

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especially at school you can be seen as

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putting on the talk so if you're the

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only child well where I grew up there's

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kind of a mix of accents but if you

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imagine a school in Liverpool with a

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learning French and they say yeah

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bonjour je m'appelle Richards and just

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SWE's to Liverpool

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your pal fronts area beyond and I've

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just gone over to Yorkshire by the way

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sorry but then the point is you've got

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this local accent and then you're the

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only kid that goes boardroom a perfect

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shot and the other kids can start

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laughing at you because they think oh my

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god what are you doing it's it's like

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you're giving up your identity so when I

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talk about prestige accents and keeping

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your identity

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it doesn't mean you sound posh and you

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sounds sort of all highfalutin in your

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language what it actually refers to is

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the group language the pack language and

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that is the accent and that's the

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vocabulary that you use so as soon as

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you move away from that especially in a

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language society like the English

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language in the world where we very much

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judge people on their accents from the

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standard to where they're from it can

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take you away from that group and it can

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it can make you feel isolated or people

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can make you feel isolated because of it

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so sometimes it's a badge that you wear

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with pride this strong accent and you

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think it's fun to do it especially as

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kids when we will learn the numbers in

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French I remember I had to go through

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the basics of French even though I'd

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studied it as a smaller child I had to

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go through it with with my peers and

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they were they got through the numbers

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and they were going on dicks twice,

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Quattro Cinque six

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tweet nerf dicks and that was hilarious

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still is actually my mum came over to

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actually talking on this my mum came

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over to visit me in Poland when I was

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staying there in Poznan and I've got

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into this really weird mindset if I

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don't see the natural English link

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always straight away so who here knows

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polish okay so it was a place where you

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sell alcohol in Poland and it will have

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written alcohol oh yeah

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in Polish my 24 alcoholic yeah and my

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mum came over he's a native speaker of

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English too and monolingual and she said

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I wasn't that really clever they've

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called it the alcohol so then practicing

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the language so you know this is a thing

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that native English speakers have a real

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issue with everybody speaks English

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everyone I mean that they want to speak

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it they want to practice and this can be

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an issue and the level of English in the

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target languages language etiquette and

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reactions so just to explain some of

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what I've written on on here and who

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here has been in a situation where you

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want to learn the language you go to the

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country and then it goes and yeah you

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get your your Dutch is very good sir

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sure it's really where were you from in

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England I

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okay explain a longsword this curve a

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fairly man a Lanza and the but they look

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in the game yes but I think is probably

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easier in English right

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and then it's not that they always want

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to force you to speak English it's that

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they enjoy it and sometimes it's native

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English because we forget this and you

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can get offended as I need to English

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speaker as well because you think oh god

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they won't even let me speak but it's

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not always the case so from the one side

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they're trying to make your life easier

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by speaking English because they know

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that you're not going to stress but from

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the other side you're seeing is Wow is

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it really that bad that I can't even

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speak to you for more than five minutes

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without you turning this conversation

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into English and it leaves the English

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speaker feeling very sad disappointed

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and bit embarrassed and oh dear maybe I

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should just not bother everyone speaks

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English and the level of English does

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play a part because sometimes when you

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go when I went to Poland the level of

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English is generally quite low compared

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to say the Netherlands or Sweden or

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Norway or Iceland or somewhere like that

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where I'd say the average level is a b2

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upper echelons of a b2 whereas in

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somewhere like Poland it's probably an

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a2 level the functional they get by is

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you can go to Poland n' and talk to

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people generally but you can quite

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quickly overcome like Alex was talking

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about yesterday you know when you get to

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that level you can then quite easily

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just speak in the target language that's

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more difficult for some languages than

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others and that can be intimidating but

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as a native English speaker as well

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we're always very used to having the

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upper hand and we use this to our

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advantage of course because you can

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dominate a conversation very easily

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because you have a rich vocabulary

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automatically because you is you're an

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educated native speaker of English you

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know you you're used to learning how to

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debate or or talk or put your points

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across in a very eloquent way whereas if

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you've learned English as a foreign

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language then naturally it's more of a

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struggle to get to that stage so as a

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native English speaker you can get

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complacent with this ability to express

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yourself without any boundaries and

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sometimes actually the practicing the

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language is an issue internally because

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you feel restricted for all the reasons

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we talked about before of grammar

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vocabulary that you don't have the same

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domination of the language that you do

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in English but then also some of the

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things come into place language

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etiquette has anybody heard me talk

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about language etiquette before no

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for me there is a real strict language

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etiquette that goes on with learning a

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language or speaking a language and

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practicing a language and it relates to

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where you are and what you're doing in

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who it's with

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so for me personally if I'm sitting at

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home in the United Kingdom and a German

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or a Spaniard or whoever else walks up

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to me and speaks to me in English maybe

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a low level of English but my instant

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reaction is not to go

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I had vamos vamos all learn it but

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you're not because I know how that feels

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from the other side so I sit there and I

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okay let's speak slowly take this slowly

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and help them out because they're making

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an effort to speak my language so this

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is the thing that native English

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speakers don't always get abroad because

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the reactions are what the hell are you

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learning my language for this is Iceland

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well the people is I want 300,000 you

430
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get it in all sorts of places waiting

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whales as well sometimes you'll get it

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where people you know a native English

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we call them Welsh and it's like why

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you're speaking Welsh it's like you can

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just be English in Wales some people are

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now the attitudes are changing slightly

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especially because of immigration and

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people wanting people to immigrate to

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assimilate into the culture so they

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don't know always but the the language

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etiquette of speaking the language of

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the country you're in I think should

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hold true so when I'm abroad I don't

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feel the need to have to speak English

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to accommodate somebody if they want to

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just practice their English but I can

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compromise I can be nice about it yeah

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visit Yeti and Iceland each kind of toy

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train

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you must be linked nor English bleedin

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either your masters I need NICs hours

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each mine explosions or weasel fish pond

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to house on does this me you have kind

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image manage can often low English so I

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don't really worry so much personally

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anymore I used to when I was learning

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the languages but now I live in in

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Skopje with my with my wife and my

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daughter we speak five languages at home

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on a daily basis and then other

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languages outside I don't worry so much

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but I understand why people do and and

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it is important to show that support for

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people learning your language

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the reactions actually in

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english-speaking countries particularly

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the UK there is soft and very strong

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reaction against speaking a foreign

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language socially it's I'm not going to

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say unacceptable but people and do do

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have a reaction Polish people definitely

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pick up on it in the UK and a lot more

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reluctant men to speak Polish to

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somebody who's not Polish speaking in

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public as well sometimes they feel the

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eyes going to them what are you talking

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about you're talking about me aren't you

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foreigner and I've experienced this

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myself

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and as a native British person and

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you're growing up speaking English as a

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first language when my wife and I moved

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to the UK to live for 3 years and we've

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only ever spoken Macedonian at home

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we've never used English when we went

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out into the city this is my home city

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of Chester and people actually almost

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psychologically there's a psychological

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barrier to refuse to believe that I was

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really British because they heard me

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speaking Polish Slavic language it

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sounds lovak and the amount of people

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that came up to me in the UK to say

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excuse me at which language you speaking

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there and I'd say Macedonian okay you're

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not polish then I thought you polish no

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I'm actually British no and you're

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speaking Macedonian because and people

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actually did this to me it's been in the

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curious realms to the blatant rude

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realms and it's it's a strange it's a

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strange thing to see of your own country

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so you think you know people have these

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great reactions all you speak all these

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languages fantastic but sometimes the

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reality of speaking all these languages

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it actually makes people a bit

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suspicious sometimes and why would you

509
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do it why would you actually speak all

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these languages why would you speak it

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in front of me when I can't understand

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and and it goes back to the language

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etiquette as well it's like hmm there's

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a tight sort of line to tread with with

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these kinds of things and you know I've

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had people say all sorts all sorts of

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things the only language in the UK that

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I found got really positive reactions

519
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generally was French because it's seen

520
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as a as either a cultural equal or

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slightly posh still but and the other

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language is Spanish and German so so but

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but speaking a Slavic language was

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definitely I got more negative reactions

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and positive unfortunately so that comes

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takes me to picking languages so how do

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you actually pick the languages you want

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to speak bearing in mind all of this you

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know the thing that we're talking about

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a you know pronunciation how easy it is

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for you to actually learn the vocabulary

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to learn the grammar to speak it for

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that to be then acceptable where you're

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living to get the practice that you need

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well sometimes the languages are picked

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for you so you go to school you start

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and you have in the UK French German

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possibly Spanish or some other language

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that's quite commonly used and they're

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picked for four good reasons there

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they're quite you know well spoken

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languages in the world and are useful

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for the job market later on so there is

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some some method to the madness but

545
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:40,470
there are also these prestige languages

546
00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:42,059
that you think of you know people will

547
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:43,769
talk about I want my child to speak this

548
00:24:42,059 --> 00:24:45,570
really good rationale or you get these

549
00:24:43,769 --> 00:24:47,669
you know posh private schools that will

550
00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:50,730
teach Japanese or Chinese because it's

551
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:53,659
seen as a prestige language in addition

552
00:24:50,730 --> 00:24:56,940
to the prestige language of French and

553
00:24:53,659 --> 00:24:59,639
then there's heritage so in places like

554
00:24:56,940 --> 00:25:01,799
Wales you have to learn Welsh to some

555
00:24:59,639 --> 00:25:04,559
degree if it's is the first language or

556
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:05,850
a second language its I think now

557
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:07,080
they've changed it so you only learn it

558
00:25:05,850 --> 00:25:09,440
till about fourteen or something like

559
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,940
that but you you have to do some Welsh

560
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:15,200
because it's obviously with the official

561
00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:18,659
language of the country next English and

562
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,710
but there's often a lot of stigma

563
00:25:18,659 --> 00:25:21,779
attached to some of these heritage

564
00:25:19,710 --> 00:25:24,809
language languages

565
00:25:21,779 --> 00:25:27,809
people don't want to seem different so

566
00:25:24,809 --> 00:25:29,309
I've met people who are either from

567
00:25:27,809 --> 00:25:32,639
Welsh extraction who are actually very

568
00:25:29,309 --> 00:25:36,509
against and the Welsh language I've met

569
00:25:32,639 --> 00:25:38,429
people who who speak languages from from

570
00:25:36,509 --> 00:25:41,099
India or penguin Bangladesh or Pakistan

571
00:25:38,429 --> 00:25:42,269
and their parents spoke them at home but

572
00:25:41,099 --> 00:25:45,509
they speak them with a very strong

573
00:25:42,269 --> 00:25:47,999
Yorkshire accent or but other regional

574
00:25:45,509 --> 00:25:50,489
accents and they become very British and

575
00:25:47,999 --> 00:25:51,690
it's it's not it's not that they shun

576
00:25:50,489 --> 00:25:54,059
the language because they use it at home

577
00:25:51,690 --> 00:25:56,279
but you you get these reactions of

578
00:25:54,059 --> 00:25:58,830
wanting to fit in so anyone seen East is

579
00:25:56,279 --> 00:26:01,589
East it's a really good film in the UK

580
00:25:58,830 --> 00:26:03,869
British film that demonstrates this this

581
00:26:01,589 --> 00:26:09,960
struggle between a Pakistani father and

582
00:26:03,869 --> 00:26:12,029
a Yorkshire nun who and the children are

583
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,249
sort of caught between the two cultures

584
00:26:12,029 --> 00:26:16,080
I like what they're speaking and they go

585
00:26:14,249 --> 00:26:18,719
to they go and they read the Koran and

586
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,609
they learn Arabic and they but they

587
00:26:18,719 --> 00:26:23,009
don't take the language so seriously

588
00:26:20,609 --> 00:26:25,259
because then I suppose the scene being

589
00:26:23,009 --> 00:26:27,779
seen is different to the local community

590
00:26:25,259 --> 00:26:30,929
and these are things that I find really

591
00:26:27,779 --> 00:26:32,879
quite sad because that the diversity and

592
00:26:30,929 --> 00:26:34,679
and actually having these these

593
00:26:32,879 --> 00:26:38,879
additional heritage things are really

594
00:26:34,679 --> 00:26:41,759
nice and and quite quite good for myself

595
00:26:38,879 --> 00:26:45,149
personally I actually I heard Welsh as a

596
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:47,519
child and nun and I always knew I grew

597
00:26:45,149 --> 00:26:50,279
up with speaking English but there were

598
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:51,839
always sort of elements of Welsh put

599
00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:55,710
into the English as well like we knew

600
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:57,440
Qaeda gag shut your mouth you know

601
00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:59,849
lovely lovely little things like that

602
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:04,320
like the Irish people that learn point

603
00:26:59,849 --> 00:27:05,429
Mahorn yeah gets my bum but they learn

604
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,450
all it's one of the first things that

605
00:27:05,429 --> 00:27:10,769
you learn right how'd you learn Irish

606
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:12,149
and but the there are other things that

607
00:27:10,769 --> 00:27:14,969
motivate you learning languages I mean

608
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:16,979
you know even in my later stages of

609
00:27:14,969 --> 00:27:19,249
language learning when I had who has

610
00:27:16,979 --> 00:27:21,599
language lists that they want to learn

611
00:27:19,249 --> 00:27:23,669
all right [ __ ] room isn't it's a

612
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:25,919
great audience for this and you've got

613
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:27,559
like Burmese you got more so just

614
00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:30,029
because you can say it

615
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:32,369
Zulu all these fantastic languages that

616
00:27:30,029 --> 00:27:35,750
you'll probably not learn but you dream

617
00:27:32,369 --> 00:27:39,370
of it and never in my wildest dream

618
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:43,130
did I ever put Macedonia on the list and

619
00:27:39,370 --> 00:27:45,380
because of this this last reason it's

620
00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:49,160
like one of the best languages that I

621
00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:53,150
speak and just because yeah not now my

622
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:55,510
family is half Macedonian and and we use

623
00:27:53,150 --> 00:28:00,080
it at home and we use it all the time

624
00:27:55,510 --> 00:28:01,520
the road ahead so the first one is the

625
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,800
hardest the first language so anybody

626
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,030
out there are notes like in this room

627
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,160
it's like preaching to the converted

628
00:28:05,030 --> 00:28:08,630
right but there are people that look on

629
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,250
this on YouTube look at the video and

630
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:13,310
they're struggling with the first

631
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:14,900
language and I think bear in mind the

632
00:28:13,310 --> 00:28:16,820
first one is is often the hardest one to

633
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:18,320
learn and people often come to you and

634
00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:24,020
say well isn't it really easy after that

635
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:26,000
and yes it is no it isn't it is because

636
00:28:24,020 --> 00:28:27,050
once you've learned one you can imagine

637
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,320
what it's like to speak another language

638
00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:32,690
and I think that mindset and that

639
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,850
ability to to consider what it is to

640
00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:39,020
speak another language stays with you

641
00:28:34,850 --> 00:28:40,190
then for further learning and the other

642
00:28:39,020 --> 00:28:41,570
thing that's really important when you

643
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:43,970
learn a language is language bridges

644
00:28:41,570 --> 00:28:47,420
created so when you go through the

645
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:49,940
process again grammatical terms often

646
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:51,980
repeat themselves or have similarities

647
00:28:49,940 --> 00:28:54,530
you can you can sort of associate things

648
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:56,360
better we go back to the vocabulary it

649
00:28:54,530 --> 00:28:59,150
doesn't seem as vast anymore I've learnt

650
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,950
French now I'm going to Spanish oh okay

651
00:28:59,150 --> 00:29:04,040
it's quite a lot of words here are the

652
00:29:00,950 --> 00:29:06,230
same or even if you go to Turkish and I

653
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:11,420
found lots and lots of French words in

654
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:12,230
Turkish so what the hell and the same in

655
00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:14,600
Russian you know you get all these

656
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:17,440
French words that go through because

657
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:21,740
it's it was a it was the English of

658
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:23,990
before English times right it was French

659
00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:26,240
so it's permeated all of these different

660
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:29,120
societies in different ways and and it

661
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,440
really helps my advice is always if

662
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,780
you're a native English speaker learn

663
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,280
French it helps you with English it

664
00:29:32,780 --> 00:29:37,010
helps you understand English literature

665
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,260
it helps you to expand your vocabulary

666
00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:40,580
without having to work very hard because

667
00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:42,230
you have French and you have a better

668
00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:43,910
vocabulary in your own native tongue and

669
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:45,800
it's one of the reasons I chose French

670
00:29:43,910 --> 00:29:47,900
as a native language for my daughter as

671
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,020
well because I knew that it would be

672
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:53,520
really important

673
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:54,809
and taking on new languages so when you

674
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,100
when you've got all of this you've got

675
00:29:54,809 --> 00:29:58,890
this new mindset you've got all these

676
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:00,570
links and bridges from the new language

677
00:29:58,890 --> 00:30:02,750
that you've learned then you don't feel

678
00:30:00,570 --> 00:30:05,340
so scared to take on a new language and

679
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:08,390
you can also pretend that you're no

680
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:08,390
longer a native English speaker

681
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:14,880
an interesting thing actually on this

682
00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:17,429
link to some of the cultural things we

683
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,490
talked about in the UK my wife and I

684
00:30:17,429 --> 00:30:23,640
were in Scotland I was working on the

685
00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:28,410
Antarctic Treaty and we went to a

686
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:30,000
restaurant and the the the guy working

687
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:32,790
there I came over to take our order and

688
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,170
he had he had a strong accent and at

689
00:30:32,790 --> 00:30:36,270
that time Polish people only started

690
00:30:34,170 --> 00:30:37,950
arriving into the UK so we weren't

691
00:30:36,270 --> 00:30:40,740
really clear we hadn't really been

692
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:43,920
following you know the immigration that

693
00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:45,330
was to follow and I think Poland only

694
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,050
been here for a little bit of time so it

695
00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:50,910
was anything possible to come over and

696
00:30:48,050 --> 00:30:52,890
the guy was speaking this Slavic accent

697
00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:55,710
my wife and I was speaking in Macedonian

698
00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:57,600
and we said excuse me where are you from

699
00:30:55,710 --> 00:31:00,090
because we thought maybe there's a

700
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:04,200
chance he's from the Balkans and he went

701
00:31:00,090 --> 00:31:06,540
and from Croatia had thought of Brad

702
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,490
there modulo the Givaudan joaquina

703
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:13,530
janosh gone we can speak our language

704
00:31:08,490 --> 00:31:18,090
and he just looked horrified as Annie

705
00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:20,070
went and then Alan had also mish-mosh

706
00:31:18,090 --> 00:31:21,090
died over well caught you what we

707
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:23,220
couldn't understand why didn't

708
00:31:21,090 --> 00:31:24,630
understand this Croatian guy was like we

709
00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:26,490
were speaking in the language why can't

710
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:27,870
you understand us and at first we

711
00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:32,520
thought maybe we were standing too

712
00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:34,470
serbian so we know have we crossed some

713
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,050
sort of line etiquette boundary here

714
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:40,860
that we shouldn't be doing with okay we

715
00:31:37,050 --> 00:31:43,440
didn't use the infinitive sorry and but

716
00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:44,820
we we had soon started to realize this

717
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:49,610
guy didn't understand the word we were

718
00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:49,610
saying anywhere actually I'm from Poland

719
00:31:49,690 --> 00:31:54,679
and then it clicked and we went why did

720
00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:56,719
you say you were from Croatia because

721
00:31:54,679 --> 00:32:00,979
because I get less negative reactions if

722
00:31:56,719 --> 00:32:03,589
I say I'm from Croatia than Poland yeah

723
00:32:00,979 --> 00:32:04,909
and you can you can use this trick but

724
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:07,909
make sure you speak the language that's

725
00:32:04,909 --> 00:32:09,559
kind of the moral of story so if you go

726
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:11,440
to a new country and you want to say I

727
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:13,729
don't speak English you want to pretend

728
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:17,959
just what one of my tricks

729
00:32:13,729 --> 00:32:19,489
was always I'd go I don't understand and

730
00:32:17,959 --> 00:32:20,719
then they just get they got to get

731
00:32:19,489 --> 00:32:21,979
nervous about their own level of English

732
00:32:20,719 --> 00:32:25,070
and then turn back to their native

733
00:32:21,979 --> 00:32:27,099
language there's a really good trick by

734
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:29,269
the way it works really well you go

735
00:32:27,099 --> 00:32:30,289
strain and then they may repeat it once

736
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:35,329
or twice now if you do it three times

737
00:32:30,289 --> 00:32:36,950
ago oh my god my English is crap should

738
00:32:35,329 --> 00:32:39,649
maybe stay with the language that he's

739
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:42,109
trying to speak to me instead but make

740
00:32:39,649 --> 00:32:43,579
sure you can speak hit me if you can and

741
00:32:42,109 --> 00:32:52,419
they happen to speak the language that

742
00:32:43,579 --> 00:32:54,559
you claim to be a native of ich and so

743
00:32:52,419 --> 00:32:56,149
if this is going to go for there we go

744
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,429
there's a lovely little thing I like

745
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:59,749
this I like bridges there they're a nice

746
00:32:58,429 --> 00:33:01,159
little thing to add on

747
00:32:59,749 --> 00:33:02,719
I thought pictures would make you

748
00:33:01,159 --> 00:33:07,359
interested in what I was saying was

749
00:33:02,719 --> 00:33:09,619
boring okay so multilingual vs. polyglot

750
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:11,599
does anybody else make this distinction

751
00:33:09,619 --> 00:33:13,190
nowadays for me these has changed in my

752
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,929
head so anybody else make the

753
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:18,950
distinction anymore you make

754
00:33:14,929 --> 00:33:21,079
distinctions yeah for me the

755
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:24,109
multilingual is the Luxembourgish person

756
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:26,690
who has had to speak three four

757
00:33:24,109 --> 00:33:28,099
languages through necessity they go to

758
00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:29,809
kindergarten in Luxembourgish than they

759
00:33:28,099 --> 00:33:31,159
do primary secondary school in French

760
00:33:29,809 --> 00:33:32,899
German German French whichever way

761
00:33:31,159 --> 00:33:34,459
around the duets and they learn English

762
00:33:32,899 --> 00:33:35,809
because everyone learns English and they

763
00:33:34,459 --> 00:33:37,429
may learn a foreign language like

764
00:33:35,809 --> 00:33:39,769
they've got the largest number of

765
00:33:37,429 --> 00:33:42,019
immigrants from Portugal in anywhere

766
00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:43,729
else in Europe outside Portugal and in

767
00:33:42,019 --> 00:33:45,200
Luxembourg I believe that wasn't a

768
00:33:43,729 --> 00:33:47,539
statistic ten years ago when I first

769
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,459
learnt it and I'm sticking with it it's

770
00:33:47,539 --> 00:33:51,619
a good one so they may have a home

771
00:33:49,459 --> 00:33:52,729
language like Portuguese or Serbian

772
00:33:51,619 --> 00:33:56,389
there's quite a lot of Serbian speakers

773
00:33:52,729 --> 00:33:58,159
that moved over during the war and so

774
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:59,839
they have four or five languages just

775
00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:02,179
without starting but does that make them

776
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:03,650
particularly a polyglot in the way we

777
00:34:02,179 --> 00:34:06,410
think of polyglots in all

778
00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:08,120
online community well the question I

779
00:34:06,410 --> 00:34:13,310
asked a minute ago who hears from

780
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:14,810
Luxembourg no one answered and I think

781
00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:16,399
there is one there's one person that I

782
00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:18,950
have met called Christine I think her

783
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:20,330
name is who is from Luxembourg and is in

784
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:22,970
the community but I don't come across

785
00:34:20,330 --> 00:34:25,070
them very often and I think because for

786
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:26,990
me polyglot doesn't just mean speaking

787
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:29,300
languages and people often ask how many

788
00:34:26,990 --> 00:34:31,000
languages is it for me it's not the

789
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:33,500
amount of languages per se

790
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,450
yes it's speaking more than maybe one or

791
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:37,970
two but beyond that is it really

792
00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:41,060
important no it's actually this

793
00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:43,760
deliberate action going forward and

794
00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:46,220
picking languages and learning them that

795
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,700
is what a polyglot is for me it's

796
00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:52,240
somebody who does this deliberately and

797
00:34:48,700 --> 00:34:52,240
for no apparent reason

798
00:34:53,050 --> 00:35:04,760
yeah am I right or am i right

799
00:34:56,380 --> 00:35:07,360
haha so we see people like these you

800
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:12,470
know natural multi linguist from America

801
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:13,750
you know professor aguas our very own

802
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:19,940
Alex

803
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:20,390
Benny Inman ola you did because Germany

804
00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:21,890
as well

805
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:23,600
pretty monolingual country you learn a

806
00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:24,890
bit of English but you don't always

807
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,810
learn the languages so for me these like

808
00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:29,120
all these countries count it's not just

809
00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:31,270
about english-speaking countries who

810
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,130
knows who that is

811
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:37,760
yeah Hungarian Katherine yeah

812
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:39,020
hunger Hungaria hungry is also one of

813
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,230
those countries where they tend just to

814
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:46,670
speak Hungarian right but these are the

815
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:52,090
people err Tim yeah there we go she's

816
00:35:46,670 --> 00:36:00,010
there at the back Lindsey at Lucca noses

817
00:35:52,090 --> 00:36:04,430
Steve Suzanna David its - Jay yeah oli

818
00:36:00,010 --> 00:36:06,380
Mike Campbell and Donovan and these are

819
00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:10,330
all people from pretty monolingual

820
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:11,740
backgrounds and yeah they may have

821
00:36:10,330 --> 00:36:14,770
had languages a little bit younger they

822
00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:16,150
may not but these people all went on to

823
00:36:14,770 --> 00:36:17,320
do something incredible with learning

824
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:19,570
lots and lots of languages these are

825
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,150
just examples that I chose randomly

826
00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:24,460
because of you know they're known in the

827
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:26,470
community and they're their faces that

828
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:29,770
you will instantly recognize and maybe

829
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:31,090
attach a meaning to straightaway but I

830
00:36:29,770 --> 00:36:33,940
could equally have used a number of

831
00:36:31,090 --> 00:36:43,270
faces in this room and have the same

832
00:36:33,940 --> 00:36:45,900
effect so really that is me and I'm

833
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:45,900
happy yes

834
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,420
okay let's take another country as an

835
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:19,279
idea instead of Luxembourg because they

836
00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:21,439
do education in in a number of languages

837
00:37:19,279 --> 00:37:22,999
so if anybody didn't hear that the

838
00:37:21,439 --> 00:37:24,160
argument was whether or not there are

839
00:37:22,999 --> 00:37:26,930
differences in levels between

840
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,489
multilingual and polyglot so whether or

841
00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:30,529
not you would have a bilingual as a

842
00:37:28,489 --> 00:37:32,299
perfect bilingual I'm guessing you mean

843
00:37:30,529 --> 00:37:33,650
by this or a trilingual perfect

844
00:37:32,299 --> 00:37:35,660
trilingual or multilingual

845
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:39,799
and extension of that beyond these three

846
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:41,689
languages and I think probably a better

847
00:37:39,799 --> 00:37:44,089
maybe maybe a better country to pick

848
00:37:41,689 --> 00:37:45,920
would be somewhere like India or some

849
00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:47,959
African countries as well where they

850
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,130
will learn languages of people around

851
00:37:47,959 --> 00:37:52,549
but they'll learn them for different

852
00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:54,349
reasons it will be for business for just

853
00:37:52,549 --> 00:37:56,269
having a coffee trade whatever they

854
00:37:54,349 --> 00:37:57,529
doing they'll do it for different

855
00:37:56,269 --> 00:37:59,989
reasons so they don't need the same

856
00:37:57,529 --> 00:38:01,519
level in the language and they didn't

857
00:37:59,989 --> 00:38:02,929
means necessarily they can't necessarily

858
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:05,539
say the same things in all of the

859
00:38:02,929 --> 00:38:08,900
languages either they may not even have

860
00:38:05,539 --> 00:38:12,229
one mother tongue that's very strong it

861
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:13,609
may be a mixture of languages and this

862
00:38:12,229 --> 00:38:16,789
happens in a lot of places outside

863
00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:18,199
Europe and even in Europe as well I know

864
00:38:16,789 --> 00:38:20,660
people in in the Republic of Macedonia

865
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:23,539
who who just go in a conversation

866
00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:25,429
between five languages and they do it

867
00:38:23,539 --> 00:38:27,199
because that's just the way they talk

868
00:38:25,429 --> 00:38:28,939
where they live because they'll mix

869
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,619
Turkish in with Albanian with Macedonian

870
00:38:28,939 --> 00:38:32,719
with Serbian and then they may know a

871
00:38:30,619 --> 00:38:36,949
smattering of German and whatever else

872
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,999
and but it's it's it's that's why I

873
00:38:36,949 --> 00:38:39,469
would say they were they are

874
00:38:37,999 --> 00:38:41,749
multilingual for me and there are

875
00:38:39,469 --> 00:38:45,019
different levels so I wouldn't make that

876
00:38:41,749 --> 00:38:47,029
distinction myself and if you talk about

877
00:38:45,019 --> 00:38:48,589
other languages like French Belanger

878
00:38:47,029 --> 00:38:50,119
everyone's belonging French if they

879
00:38:48,589 --> 00:38:53,509
speak about in three words of English

880
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:55,069
they belong who I mean I remember people

881
00:38:53,509 --> 00:38:58,240
saying that all the time I teach younger

882
00:38:55,069 --> 00:39:01,010
let go my OC yeah

883
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:05,320
okay so which one of your parents is

884
00:39:01,010 --> 00:39:08,240
from is from the UK oh no more clearly :

885
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:12,680
okay so your you'll be lying you'll

886
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:14,030
that'd be lying you and it's nothing

887
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,850
nothing wrong with being belong in that

888
00:39:14,030 --> 00:39:19,010
way but it's a it's not all in English

889
00:39:16,850 --> 00:39:21,020
term bilingual it's not what we

890
00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:23,150
understand we understand and assume that

891
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:25,160
it's a perfect bilingualism but actually

892
00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:26,360
even in even in these countries where it

893
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,990
seems like a very good bilingualism

894
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:32,540
almost perfect it doesn't take long to

895
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:34,820
scratch the surface as a very competent

896
00:39:32,540 --> 00:39:38,480
fluent speaker of a language to see that

897
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:40,670
it's not quite the reality even for the

898
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,890
people that seem very very very

899
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:45,380
bilingual there is often a stronger

900
00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:47,210
language in areas and it will it will do

901
00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:48,800
the same thing as happening in India or

902
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:50,990
African countries where where this is

903
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,320
the norm between tribes or between

904
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:56,270
regions of the country for just general

905
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,130
conversation but it will be be maybe a

906
00:39:56,270 --> 00:40:01,850
high educated level because they've

907
00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:06,800
studied maybe in all the languages okay

908
00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:09,070
I'm open to other questions as well yeah

909
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,070
please

910
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:20,990
hello hello and you said that mmm

911
00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:23,870
do you mind the second language was the

912
00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:25,430
most difficult and then after that it

913
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:27,680
got easier

914
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:29,930
I actually thought perhaps the third

915
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,880
language was the challenge because this

916
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:34,570
is the point at which you consolidate

917
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,040
how to learn a language

918
00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:39,740
yeah I know what you're talking about

919
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:43,160
and it's kind of went up when I said I

920
00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:46,310
kind of went ish and sort of winced a

921
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,900
little bit because it's true that it's

922
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:50,600
the first is the hardest in terms of

923
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:52,160
that mental barrier of understanding how

924
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,990
to speak and communicate in a different

925
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,160
language and that's the one thing that

926
00:40:53,990 --> 00:41:01,400
you do you do once in terms of that

927
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,960
mental flip but you're right and this

928
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,120
happened to me when I started off with

929
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,340
the Romance languages and that was my

930
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,960
first group of languages and when I

931
00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:10,640
started learning Germanic languages I

932
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440
started Swedish from my first Germanic

933
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:17,330
language

934
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:18,800
naturally so I I had Swedish at

935
00:41:17,330 --> 00:41:19,550
university but I didn't have German at

936
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,310
school at all

937
00:41:19,550 --> 00:41:27,920
I spoke no German until I was 22 and

938
00:41:24,310 --> 00:41:30,320
never studied it but Swedish I found

939
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,200
more similar to English because of the

940
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,610
structure and the way it was flowing and

941
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,590
the the putting different article the

942
00:41:34,610 --> 00:41:39,380
end was a bit weird but it was more or

943
00:41:36,590 --> 00:41:41,869
less okay when I got to German and this

944
00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:43,940
whole flippin Lee the sentence round and

945
00:41:41,869 --> 00:41:45,170
putting verbs at the end of the sentence

946
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:47,869
yeah we do it in English as well

947
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:49,460
sometimes but in German the way of doing

948
00:41:47,869 --> 00:41:52,700
it was a bit of a mind flip

949
00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:54,470
and for me there was a real I felt I

950
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:56,960
would describe it as a physiological

951
00:41:54,470 --> 00:42:00,200
change in my brain from the the Romance

952
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,490
language set to the Germanic and once

953
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,150
you go through that change there's no

954
00:42:01,490 --> 00:42:05,270
going back

955
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:06,350
and so that's that's kind of what I'm

956
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:08,720
getting out with the first ones the

957
00:42:06,350 --> 00:42:09,920
hardest because that going forwards and

958
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,869
then not being able to go back from

959
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,850
understanding that and and visualizing

960
00:42:11,869 --> 00:42:15,470
speaking in a language that's why I say

961
00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:17,720
it's the hardest but there's definitely

962
00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:19,520
struggles with each new family because

963
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:23,359
there are new grow new ways of thinking

964
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:25,400
that that change completely and you have

965
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:26,660
to make that flip again interesting that

966
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,220
you should mention German I think

967
00:42:26,660 --> 00:42:29,810
because that was actually my third

968
00:42:28,220 --> 00:42:31,760
language it's sort of like tasting from

969
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:34,670
the tree of knowledge mm-hmm yeah yeah

970
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:43,490
exactly yep

971
00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:46,040
thank you great presentation loved it

972
00:42:43,490 --> 00:42:47,780
thank you I wanted to ask you I'm not

973
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:52,330
I'm definitely I'm Italian not a native

974
00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:54,830
English speaker and not Anna but I've

975
00:42:52,330 --> 00:42:56,660
lived there before I lived in Finland

976
00:42:54,830 --> 00:43:00,140
and now I've been living in Lavinia and

977
00:42:56,660 --> 00:43:02,090
I like this the concept of dominance

978
00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:03,859
that I use English you know to dominate

979
00:43:02,090 --> 00:43:05,840
conversation because both literally and

980
00:43:03,859 --> 00:43:08,540
finish are never strong but I also found

981
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,150
out that Lithuanian and Finnish they're

982
00:43:08,540 --> 00:43:13,310
not used to people speaking their

983
00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:15,080
language as a second language so for

984
00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:17,780
them it's very awkward and when I try to

985
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,820
learn Russian in Lithuanian for me was

986
00:43:17,780 --> 00:43:22,130
way easier to practice Russian because

987
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:25,180
Russian as Italian I think they're used

988
00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:27,819
maybe to see other people

989
00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:30,790
struggling so themselves they're used to

990
00:43:27,819 --> 00:43:32,349
adapt in a way to somebody speaking

991
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:36,040
their language as a second language so

992
00:43:32,349 --> 00:43:38,530
my question is what can we how can we

993
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,450
help these societies maybe to open their

994
00:43:38,530 --> 00:43:42,190
eyes and to realize that look there are

995
00:43:40,450 --> 00:43:43,690
lots of people that would love to speak

996
00:43:42,190 --> 00:43:49,210
your language and what can you do

997
00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:51,809
natives - yeah this is really true as an

998
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:55,839
English language native we're used to a

999
00:43:51,809 --> 00:43:57,099
huge wide variety of different accents

1000
00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:59,380
and people from different cultures

1001
00:43:57,099 --> 00:44:01,480
speaking our language so our air can

1002
00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:03,369
tune in and can adapt quite quickly and

1003
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,480
a lot of other smaller countries where

1004
00:44:03,369 --> 00:44:06,460
they're not used to people learning the

1005
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,589
language and I live in a country exactly

1006
00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:10,990
the same you know in the Republic of

1007
00:44:08,589 --> 00:44:13,240
Macedonia people didn't really study

1008
00:44:10,990 --> 00:44:15,490
Macedonian and it's it's there aren't

1009
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:19,420
many that speak it well you know now

1010
00:44:15,490 --> 00:44:21,670
from abroad that come in and I remember

1011
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:23,530
when I first went there and they that I

1012
00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:25,900
went to the school to try and learn

1013
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:27,609
Macedonian that way to have proper

1014
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:28,900
lessons and they went yeah we've we've

1015
00:44:27,609 --> 00:44:30,670
taught really successfully beyond the

1016
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:33,040
basics we've got this American guys been

1017
00:44:30,670 --> 00:44:36,309
over two years he's fantastic but he

1018
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,260
calls we don't stand a word he says but

1019
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:42,069
it's because it's because of the accent

1020
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:43,540
how you can combat that it's tough it's

1021
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:45,220
this is one of the reasons why I wanted

1022
00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:46,450
to make this presentation because I know

1023
00:44:45,220 --> 00:44:49,240
it will go on YouTube but I know that

1024
00:44:46,450 --> 00:44:50,500
within the community people will see it

1025
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:52,480
and they'll understand this struggle and

1026
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:55,630
it's taking the time to be patient and

1027
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:58,329
listening to it and sometimes I find it

1028
00:44:55,630 --> 00:45:00,549
quite hard to understand why a native

1029
00:44:58,329 --> 00:45:02,890
can't bend their ear a little bit to

1030
00:45:00,549 --> 00:45:07,329
understand but it's it does seem to be

1031
00:45:02,890 --> 00:45:08,829
something that's pre-programmed and how

1032
00:45:07,329 --> 00:45:11,500
you would do it I think is just with

1033
00:45:08,829 --> 00:45:13,990
with actually making people more aware

1034
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:15,609
that this is okay to do and and and

1035
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:17,440
getting more used to people learning the

1036
00:45:15,609 --> 00:45:20,049
minority languages and you as a

1037
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,880
foreigner living in Lithuania speaking

1038
00:45:20,049 --> 00:45:23,710
to more people in Lithuanian so that

1039
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,630
then because you are an ambassador for

1040
00:45:23,710 --> 00:45:27,400
foreigner speaking Lithuanian when you

1041
00:45:25,630 --> 00:45:29,799
learn any language you will then an

1042
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,660
ambassador for a foreigner learning that

1043
00:45:29,799 --> 00:45:34,420
language and that's how you need to see

1044
00:45:31,660 --> 00:45:35,799
yourself so don't get scared when they

1045
00:45:34,420 --> 00:45:36,359
reply to you in English or in another

1046
00:45:35,799 --> 00:45:41,299
language

1047
00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:44,249
that you may speak just you know be

1048
00:45:41,299 --> 00:45:47,730
important as you say just carry on and

1049
00:45:44,249 --> 00:45:49,039
and and and you know and actually stand

1050
00:45:47,730 --> 00:45:55,589
by what you're trying to do and

1051
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:57,239
represent represent so hi

1052
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:59,670
Richard thank you for the go talk I

1053
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,559
would like to dig into a little bit

1054
00:45:59,670 --> 00:46:03,269
about this distinction between Multi

1055
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:05,130
multi lingual and polyglots

1056
00:46:03,269 --> 00:46:08,009
and we've had this conversation before I

1057
00:46:05,130 --> 00:46:11,609
self identify as a multi lingual I call

1058
00:46:08,009 --> 00:46:14,249
it accident or polyglots but I like it

1059
00:46:11,609 --> 00:46:18,150
but for the sake of clarity I would call

1060
00:46:14,249 --> 00:46:20,700
them circumstantial language or

1061
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:24,180
circumstantial polyglot or intentional

1062
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:27,480
polyglot and I find as a circumstantial

1063
00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:30,390
polyglot I would love to be intentional

1064
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,609
polyglot and from from what I've heard

1065
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:35,640
from many intentional polyglots how they

1066
00:46:32,609 --> 00:46:37,079
managed to become poly or how sorry how

1067
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,759
intentional polyglots managed to become

1068
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:41,309
in terms of public polyglots is they

1069
00:46:38,759 --> 00:46:42,839
check themselves into being

1070
00:46:41,309 --> 00:46:45,210
circumstantial polyglots you know they

1071
00:46:42,839 --> 00:46:47,940
create environment but they create this

1072
00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:49,259
as it includes the the things that you

1073
00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:51,029
mentioned yourself you know these are

1074
00:46:49,259 --> 00:46:54,359
all the different reasons people learn

1075
00:46:51,029 --> 00:46:55,950
languages so I think maybe the the

1076
00:46:54,359 --> 00:46:57,829
distinction really isn't that clear and

1077
00:46:55,950 --> 00:47:00,869
there's a lot of back and forth between

1078
00:46:57,829 --> 00:47:02,730
yeah the two domains oh I agree that

1079
00:47:00,869 --> 00:47:05,249
this isn't a clear distinction it's just

1080
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:08,819
something I perceive and I wanted to

1081
00:47:05,249 --> 00:47:11,130
express in a public way because I this

1082
00:47:08,819 --> 00:47:12,869
is a shift in in my thinking

1083
00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:14,819
more recently actually a process in the

1084
00:47:12,869 --> 00:47:16,559
last year or so I started making this

1085
00:47:14,819 --> 00:47:19,079
distinction in my head and I think it

1086
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:22,109
comes from people asking am i a polyglot

1087
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:24,029
and probably yeah there's probably a

1088
00:47:22,109 --> 00:47:25,829
crossover it's like when people talk

1089
00:47:24,029 --> 00:47:28,859
about being as agnostic theist and

1090
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:32,690
atheist you can actually be an agnostic

1091
00:47:28,859 --> 00:47:32,690
theist and an agnostic atheist

1092
00:47:32,930 --> 00:47:38,940
it's not it's not one of the other it's

1093
00:47:36,299 --> 00:47:41,430
it's all and I think probably this may

1094
00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:43,170
fit into that kind of category of you

1095
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:47,160
could be a polyglot multilingual

1096
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:48,239
polyglot why not you I said there's one

1097
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,980
person from Luxembourg who would

1098
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,530
probably I would define as that

1099
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:55,830
a natural multilingual because of

1100
00:47:52,530 --> 00:47:59,400
environment because of heritage who then

1101
00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:59,880
also went on to learn other languages hi

1102
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,700
Richard

1103
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,140
hello this behind him thank you so much

1104
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:07,260
for this presentation I wanted to ask

1105
00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:09,150
you since I'm a native English speaker

1106
00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:11,520
from America and there's several of us

1107
00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:14,700
in the room now which is great I think

1108
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:17,160
it's amazing I was wondering if you have

1109
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:19,470
experienced or if you'd like could share

1110
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,930
with us any psychological boundaries or

1111
00:48:19,470 --> 00:48:23,490
like obstacles you faced being a native

1112
00:48:21,930 --> 00:48:26,940
English speaker because I know for

1113
00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:28,859
Americans there's a reputation around

1114
00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:30,510
the world for being either unable or

1115
00:48:28,859 --> 00:48:32,850
unwilling to learn other languages and

1116
00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:34,350
so it kind of comes to my mind every now

1117
00:48:32,850 --> 00:48:35,730
and then like while you're American so

1118
00:48:34,350 --> 00:48:37,440
you're supposed to have these problems

1119
00:48:35,730 --> 00:48:42,450
have you experienced anything like that

1120
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:44,460
um yeah kind of I suffer the thing that

1121
00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:46,980
I think many of us native English

1122
00:48:44,460 --> 00:48:48,450
speakers suffer and that you take this

1123
00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:50,730
time and you make this effort to learn

1124
00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:52,650
languages but actually the picking the

1125
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:55,470
language is very difficult because

1126
00:48:52,650 --> 00:48:58,740
there's not always a natural language to

1127
00:48:55,470 --> 00:49:00,990
pick and it doesn't matter how many you

1128
00:48:58,740 --> 00:49:02,190
pick you'll still learn a native English

1129
00:49:00,990 --> 00:49:04,530
speaker when you go to the country that

1130
00:49:02,190 --> 00:49:06,810
you don't speak the language of and you

1131
00:49:04,530 --> 00:49:09,960
still feel lazy and you still feel that

1132
00:49:06,810 --> 00:49:11,640
you're representing a stereotype and I

1133
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,830
definitely feel that as well when I go

1134
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,800
to like when I go to hungry and I just

1135
00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:19,350
know like you know a few words and I

1136
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,119
feel are why can't I just become Gareth

1137
00:49:19,350 --> 00:49:22,170
but then you think like I can't do this

1138
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:25,200
in every single country in the world

1139
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:26,760
either that's to me one psychological

1140
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,310
barrier potentially not what you were

1141
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,660
getting out with your question but one

1142
00:49:29,310 --> 00:49:33,300
of the things that for me is is an

1143
00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:36,210
important thing sort of linked to that

1144
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,780
idea in terms of people people's

1145
00:49:36,210 --> 00:49:39,630
reactions

1146
00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:41,400
yeah I've certainly had like in the

1147
00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:43,980
Netherlands when I lived there first six

1148
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,530
months were very hard for speaking Dutch

1149
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:49,410
because I didn't have the vocabulary to

1150
00:49:46,530 --> 00:49:50,820
say everything I wanted and I didn't

1151
00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:53,070
have maybe the right grammar and maybe

1152
00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:55,680
maxint was a bit off and I don't know I

1153
00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:58,140
mean I don't worry too much of accent to

1154
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:01,349
be honest I like to go to be clear in my

1155
00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:05,420
pronunciation if I can and

1156
00:50:01,349 --> 00:50:08,539
but after the six-month period of people

1157
00:50:05,420 --> 00:50:13,170
constantly turning back to English and

1158
00:50:08,539 --> 00:50:15,839
it started to ease off but if ever I got

1159
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:16,890
to a point where I went to buy tickets

1160
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:19,470
or anything that I had to show my

1161
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:22,229
passport to write my passport thing they

1162
00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:23,670
go oh yeah we're speaking in Dutch for

1163
00:50:22,229 --> 00:50:25,349
like half an hour about where I'm going

1164
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:28,049
to fly to what I'm going to do and why

1165
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:31,589
need it and they go oh show her you're

1166
00:50:28,049 --> 00:50:33,390
from United Kingdom yeah and they only

1167
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:36,239
give manator long side leg needs the

1168
00:50:33,390 --> 00:50:37,739
hater and I can still speak Dutch

1169
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,299
haven't forgot met just because I gave

1170
00:50:37,739 --> 00:50:41,190
you a passport and it says I'm British

1171
00:50:39,299 --> 00:50:46,319
does not mean I can no longer speak

1172
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:48,239
Dutch and they went our sorry old so but

1173
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:50,519
it's a natural thing that you get as a

1174
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,559
native English speaker people like to

1175
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:55,410
speak to native speakers it's just the

1176
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:57,059
way it is I mean it's it's a rare thing

1177
00:50:55,410 --> 00:51:00,119
for a lot of people a lot of communities

1178
00:50:57,059 --> 00:51:01,859
so they go oh you're from the US or

1179
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,940
you're from the UK you're from Australia

1180
00:51:01,859 --> 00:51:05,369
Wow we can practice English with

1181
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:08,400
somebody who speaks it really well and

1182
00:51:05,369 --> 00:51:11,849
you know don't judge me on that could be

1183
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:14,279
awful but it's it is an issue and I

1184
00:51:11,849 --> 00:51:16,529
think it's being polite and saying you

1185
00:51:14,279 --> 00:51:17,640
know yeah if you you know it's really

1186
00:51:16,529 --> 00:51:19,410
good you want to speak English it's

1187
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,999
great you know what I really like your

1188
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:22,950
language and I really like your culture

1189
00:51:20,999 --> 00:51:25,559
and I'd love to speak to you and

1190
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:27,150
actually improve and most people are

1191
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:28,799
actually quite nice when you say that

1192
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:30,839
you know I've taken the time to come

1193
00:51:28,799 --> 00:51:32,579
here it's really nice if you could carry

1194
00:51:30,839 --> 00:51:35,369
on in your language that I can improve

1195
00:51:32,579 --> 00:51:37,890
and that's kind of what I do that's my

1196
00:51:35,369 --> 00:51:39,450
trick when I first go to a country even

1197
00:51:37,890 --> 00:51:43,079
if I know they speak better English than

1198
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:44,219
I speak their language I don't think

1199
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:46,680
that should be an issue I think it

1200
00:51:44,219 --> 00:51:47,489
should be a language etiquette thing and

1201
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,499
that takes me back to the language

1202
00:51:47,489 --> 00:51:51,930
etiquette because I think that even if

1203
00:51:49,499 --> 00:51:56,279
people unaware of that to themselves you

1204
00:51:51,930 --> 00:51:57,299
can you know sort of passively show that

1205
00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:58,710
there's a language there to get here

1206
00:51:57,299 --> 00:52:01,499
this is the boundary I've come to your

1207
00:51:58,710 --> 00:52:03,960
country and and I've come for the for

1208
00:52:01,499 --> 00:52:06,869
the reason of learning your language so

1209
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:11,309
therefore please do me that favor and

1210
00:52:06,869 --> 00:52:13,650
speak to me in your language hello hello

1211
00:52:11,309 --> 00:52:15,510
um this is relating to what you said

1212
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:17,670
about language etiquette

1213
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:20,390
one situation that always feels really

1214
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:23,100
awkward to me is being on an airplane

1215
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:25,800
especially if it's like a Japanese or

1216
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:28,380
Chinese airline and everybody around me

1217
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,240
is Asian and so of course the flight

1218
00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:33,150
attendants take one look at my face and

1219
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:34,590
they speak to me in English this always

1220
00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:36,300
makes me feel just really awkward

1221
00:52:34,590 --> 00:52:38,370
because I don't want to be like you know

1222
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:40,500
the foreigner on the plane

1223
00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:44,370
who needs to be spoken to in English and

1224
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:47,670
my ex my instinct is to reply to them in

1225
00:52:44,370 --> 00:52:49,470
their language but at the same time I

1226
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:51,360
don't want to make this person feel bad

1227
00:52:49,470 --> 00:52:52,980
you know feel like maybe their English

1228
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,200
isn't good enough and I know you know

1229
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:57,270
they're only doing their job it's only

1230
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,190
natural for them to think that you know

1231
00:52:57,270 --> 00:53:02,550
I would prefer to speak English and so

1232
00:52:59,190 --> 00:53:04,580
I'm just wondering if you have any sort

1233
00:53:02,550 --> 00:53:07,410
of protocol for this type of situation

1234
00:53:04,580 --> 00:53:08,820
okay a good question I think of the very

1235
00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:10,080
short interactions and you know that

1236
00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:12,480
it's not going to be a comic become a

1237
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:15,090
conversation depending on how confident

1238
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,670
you feel or how uneasy you feel about

1239
00:53:15,090 --> 00:53:20,640
the situation you could do one of two

1240
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:22,410
things just say okay I'm just going to

1241
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,980
say something back in English and be

1242
00:53:22,410 --> 00:53:27,000
done with it

1243
00:53:22,980 --> 00:53:29,460
or you could say in English and then say

1244
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,710
something nice like thank you or just a

1245
00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:34,800
couple of words in that language after

1246
00:53:31,710 --> 00:53:35,880
the English to show that you have an

1247
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,900
awareness of their culture in their

1248
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:42,090
language and that night spark and a

1249
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:44,100
reaction in return that they say oh

1250
00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:46,350
you've learned some some Japanese or

1251
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:48,450
you've learned some Chinese and that's

1252
00:53:46,350 --> 00:53:50,130
really nice and then you go then you say

1253
00:53:48,450 --> 00:53:51,870
oh yeah I studied it over Beauvoir and

1254
00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:53,820
they may it may spark a tiny

1255
00:53:51,870 --> 00:53:56,460
conversation in those situations it's

1256
00:53:53,820 --> 00:53:58,650
unlikely to spark a huge dialogue

1257
00:53:56,460 --> 00:53:59,970
because it's it's a plane ride right and

1258
00:53:58,650 --> 00:54:01,260
they've got a job to do and they're

1259
00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:03,450
doing their job to the best of their

1260
00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:05,670
ability and if they went up to some

1261
00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:09,120
every every every person on the plane

1262
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:10,680
white who was white or or black and just

1263
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,440
randomly spoke to them in Chinese or

1264
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,170
Japanese they probably make more enemies

1265
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,630
than friends

1266
00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:20,760
do you like what the hell you know and

1267
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:23,160
it is the language of the sky English is

1268
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,350
used in the sky so they're trained to

1269
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,390
make the announcements in English so

1270
00:54:25,350 --> 00:54:28,280
there's kind of that mindset going on in

1271
00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:33,830
that space

1272
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:35,660
pick environment but that's what I yeah

1273
00:54:33,830 --> 00:54:39,260
but that's not I mean it's a natural

1274
00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:40,430
thing to do right I mean were the only

1275
00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:42,680
sort of language is where you wouldn't

1276
00:54:40,430 --> 00:54:45,140
do that as English because anyone can be

1277
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,510
British anyone can be American

1278
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:50,450
it doesn't really depend on your outward

1279
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:53,660
appearance because we're all mixed right

1280
00:54:50,450 --> 00:54:57,170
but but how many white Japanese people

1281
00:54:53,660 --> 00:55:00,470
do you see you just don't you just don't

1282
00:54:57,170 --> 00:55:01,880
come across them it's it's not it's not

1283
00:55:00,470 --> 00:55:06,020
them yeah there we go got one in the

1284
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:09,890
back there but you you don't get that

1285
00:55:06,020 --> 00:55:11,330
many and and so it's it's fair it's fair

1286
00:55:09,890 --> 00:55:14,090
enough today I mean I get that every day

1287
00:55:11,330 --> 00:55:16,060
pretty much in the Balkans people look

1288
00:55:14,090 --> 00:55:19,010
at me and I'm too white to be Balkan I

1289
00:55:16,060 --> 00:55:21,500
am I mean you know it's like I went

1290
00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:23,330
round with and I'm sure Danny won't mind

1291
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,800
me saying this but I went round Skokie

1292
00:55:23,330 --> 00:55:28,340
with Danny Ferguson and Danny Ferguson

1293
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,020
as as black as I am white and and we

1294
00:55:28,340 --> 00:55:33,770
went round and it was like the circus

1295
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:35,750
had come to town ha ha ha everyone's

1296
00:55:33,770 --> 00:55:39,980
heads were turning who are these people

1297
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:41,870
and then you know we started speaking in

1298
00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:46,190
Serbian which freaked them out even more

1299
00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:49,520
ha ha these policemen went speaking

1300
00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:53,810
Serbian what's going on the world's gone

1301
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:56,210
crazy but it was late time's up returned

1302
00:55:53,810 --> 00:55:59,510
yeah sorry yeah we have to finish oh

1303
00:55:56,210 --> 00:56:02,290
sorry ok I can't see where you are okay

1304
00:55:59,510 --> 00:56:02,290
okay

1305
00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:07,900
thank you