0:00:07.500,0:00:14.369 the 2015 polyglot gathering is brought 0:00:10.860,0:00:16.670 to you by I talkie become fluent in any 0:00:14.369,0:00:16.670 language 0:00:16.820,0:00:24.660 ever Gaja on more games non mahir nobody 0:00:23.160,0:00:30.929 gets people going actually when I start 0:00:24.660,0:00:32.250 singing my dulcet tones okay so thank 0:00:30.929,0:00:34.170 you all for for coming 0:00:32.250,0:00:37.440 I feel very lucky to have so many people 0:00:34.170,0:00:38.430 in the room and so some of you are 0:00:37.440,0:00:40.260 probably sitting in this audience 0:00:38.430,0:00:42.750 thinking I'm not I need to finger of 0:00:40.260,0:00:45.000 English what the hell am I doing here 0:00:42.750,0:00:51.060 hands are fifty fall into that category 0:00:45.000,0:00:52.500 Oh actually okay not as many as I 0:00:51.060,0:00:57.120 thought so they probably all gone to 0:00:52.500,0:01:00.920 somewhere else more interesting so in 0:00:57.120,0:01:00.920 case you didn't recognize me this is me 0:01:01.430,0:01:06.960 my name is Richardson cop for those of 0:01:03.840,0:01:09.509 you don't know who I am and then I quite 0:01:06.960,0:01:13.380 like languages and that's why I'm here 0:01:09.509,0:01:15.630 today and these are a few the things 0:01:13.380,0:01:17.580 that I'm engaged in online speaking 0:01:15.630,0:01:20.370 fluently actually the Facebook page is 0:01:17.580,0:01:22.170 probably more active and the polyglot 0:01:20.370,0:01:23.790 workshops and polyglot conference which 0:01:22.170,0:01:27.510 I'm sure some of you in the room may 0:01:23.790,0:01:28.979 have heard of and but my story today 0:01:27.510,0:01:30.510 about learning language is a native 0:01:28.979,0:01:34.380 English speaker that doesn't actually 0:01:30.510,0:01:38.070 just hold true for speakers of English 0:01:34.380,0:01:39.690 as a native language it actually goes 0:01:38.070,0:01:42.510 beyond the borders of other countries as 0:01:39.690,0:01:44.780 well where there's a dominant single 0:01:42.510,0:01:47.340 language and they don't tend to learn 0:01:44.780,0:01:50.159 many of the languages or any of the 0:01:47.340,0:01:52.920 languages so hopefully they'll be 0:01:50.159,0:01:54.930 relevance in this for other people the 0:01:52.920,0:01:57.590 idea and the goal for me is to actually 0:01:54.930,0:02:00.750 explain some of the difficulties in 0:01:57.590,0:02:02.580 learning languages for people from these 0:02:00.750,0:02:03.860 countries particularly from my 0:02:02.580,0:02:05.990 experience as a native English speaker 0:02:03.860,0:02:10.340 that from the United Kingdom 0:02:05.990,0:02:12.720 and I hope that it will help to make 0:02:10.340,0:02:16.290 people and/or understand and be more 0:02:12.720,0:02:18.510 aware of of those difficulties so they 0:02:16.290,0:02:19.569 can help language learners when they're 0:02:18.510,0:02:21.400 speaking to them 0:02:19.569,0:02:25.959 so that's the the goal for me for this 0:02:21.400,0:02:29.560 talk but let me just demonstrate what I 0:02:25.959,0:02:31.750 mean by this not being true just for 0:02:29.560,0:02:36.700 native English speakers and for other 0:02:31.750,0:02:39.489 people with a little story so a Spanish 0:02:36.700,0:02:42.989 man walks into a clothes shop in London 0:02:39.489,0:02:46.510 and he goes he wants to buy some socks 0:02:42.989,0:02:48.340 so he walks in he says I'll allow one at 0:02:46.510,0:02:51.420 the EM get a comparable didn't I put 0:02:48.340,0:02:55.359 forward he's from the south of Spain and 0:02:51.420,0:02:58.359 then the shopkeeper looks for in case 0:02:55.359,0:02:59.019 I'm sorry I don't understand what you're 0:02:58.359,0:03:03.370 talking about 0:02:59.019,0:03:06.090 it's red posh and Spanish guys like 0:03:03.370,0:03:09.209 quiero comprar una cadena sport for 0:03:06.090,0:03:12.700 speaking out a little more clearly and 0:03:09.209,0:03:14.650 the English guys well it's a closed shop 0:03:12.700,0:03:17.139 so it's gonna want clothes isn't he so 0:03:14.650,0:03:19.629 comes back with a shirt he goes no no no 0:03:17.139,0:03:20.639 no no es una camisa yo quiero calafate 0:03:19.629,0:03:23.560 Ynez por favor 0:03:20.639,0:03:25.299 see okay pop see wrong so comes back 0:03:23.560,0:03:27.040 with a pair of trousers no no no no no 0:03:25.299,0:03:30.849 es un pantalones 0:03:27.040,0:03:32.169 yo quiero calcetines por favor see Chris 0:03:30.849,0:03:35.440 back again eventually comes back with a 0:03:32.169,0:03:37.090 pair of socks he goes s o ck s because 0:03:35.440,0:03:38.109 we bloody knew how to spell it in 0:03:37.090,0:03:48.549 English why don't you do that in the 0:03:38.109,0:03:50.199 first place so as you can see this isn't 0:03:48.549,0:03:56.109 a thing just for the native English 0:03:50.199,0:03:58.569 speakers so one thing that we always 0:03:56.109,0:04:02.709 hear is what you call somebody who 0:03:58.569,0:04:06.849 speaks many languages what we call them 0:04:02.709,0:04:08.769 oh yeah first one up that was very good 0:04:06.849,0:04:10.510 who would have known you'd have said 0:04:08.769,0:04:16.199 that first Oh 0:04:10.510,0:04:18.430 multilingual or Luxembourgish right 0:04:16.199,0:04:22.889 representing the looks and burgers how 0:04:18.430,0:04:24.120 many in the room there we go 0:04:22.889,0:04:28.110 they don't need to be here they're 0:04:24.120,0:04:32.189 already experts what you call somebody 0:04:28.110,0:04:33.330 who speaks two or three languages well 0:04:32.189,0:04:34.680 there we go look at this 0:04:33.330,0:04:38.430 bilingual it's like you wrote these 0:04:34.680,0:04:43.349 flies it's amazing okay I'll go thinking 0:04:38.430,0:04:44.939 man thana but saying Apple and what do 0:04:43.349,0:04:51.740 you call someone who speaks one language 0:04:44.939,0:04:51.740 I love it it's like you really seriously 0:04:52.370,0:05:02.400 oestrogen and there's a lovely flag that 0:04:56.819,0:05:04.349 I found thank you google okay so but why 0:05:02.400,0:05:06.060 why do English natives find it so hard 0:05:04.349,0:05:08.819 to learn language why why is that a 0:05:06.060,0:05:10.500 problem well through this presentation I 0:05:08.819,0:05:16.069 wanted to discuss the following things 0:05:10.500,0:05:21.210 grammar vocab accent pronunciation 0:05:16.069,0:05:22.650 practice picking a language oops and 0:05:21.210,0:05:24.349 we'll start with grammar but let's just 0:05:22.650,0:05:29.460 look through that quickly 0:05:24.349,0:05:30.990 whoa so these are all aspects of what 0:05:29.460,0:05:32.460 makes it difficult and as I say this 0:05:30.990,0:05:33.779 applies not just to native English 0:05:32.460,0:05:35.580 speakers but to other people as well 0:05:33.779,0:05:39.020 people who are native speakers of other 0:05:35.580,0:05:41.430 languages but why why is this problem 0:05:39.020,0:05:43.710 well from my point of view speaking as a 0:05:41.430,0:05:46.339 native English speaker born and raised 0:05:43.710,0:05:46.339 in the United Kingdom 0:05:46.379,0:05:51.899 grama is a problem because in English we 0:05:49.169,0:05:54.120 don't have gender in the same way as we 0:05:51.899,0:05:57.689 do in other languages so when you get to 0:05:54.120,0:05:59.729 Loula in French lessons and people say 0:05:57.689,0:06:01.050 the wrong gender and then you get to 0:05:59.729,0:06:05.849 German you think okay I've cracked this 0:06:01.050,0:06:08.520 gender with French okay it's lawful as 0:06:05.849,0:06:09.629 you see nota an old form yep a problema 0:06:08.520,0:06:14.009 Mia 0:06:09.629,0:06:15.779 duh skinned vow home why is it neuter 0:06:14.009,0:06:18.750 why is it then change gender in German 0:06:15.779,0:06:20.399 all of this is kind of weird for native 0:06:18.750,0:06:21.479 English speakers and you often hear that 0:06:20.399,0:06:24.419 they'll make mistakes with the gender 0:06:21.479,0:06:26.669 because it's for this reason but this 0:06:24.419,0:06:28.680 also applies to finish speakers to 0:06:26.669,0:06:33.150 Turkish speakers who don't have gender 0:06:28.680,0:06:35.850 as well in their languages verbs 0:06:33.150,0:06:37.680 English speakers fluff the verbs that 0:06:35.850,0:06:40.020 they already have and they don't change 0:06:37.680,0:06:44.160 that much anyway and through the the 0:06:40.020,0:06:48.660 pronoun so you know I see you see he 0:06:44.160,0:06:50.730 sees oh wow big change but you know then 0:06:48.660,0:06:54.780 you get to some of the Latin languages 0:06:50.730,0:06:56.400 and the changes are huge they are 0:06:54.780,0:07:02.639 there's beer very much 0:06:56.400,0:07:07.020 etc etc etc in case oh I love the 0:07:02.639,0:07:12.470 reaction in the roof who likes cases you 0:07:07.020,0:07:14.520 sick sick sick individuals seriously 0:07:12.470,0:07:16.500 there is something we can do for you 0:07:14.520,0:07:18.810 later it's in the back room I think 0:07:16.500,0:07:20.610 there's a talk on Esperanto it's only 0:07:18.810,0:07:24.210 got one case so you'll be quite happy 0:07:20.610,0:07:27.840 but it will make it a lot easier ok 0:07:24.210,0:07:30.479 grammatical rules and terminology when I 0:07:27.840,0:07:33.419 went to university in the UK I went to 0:07:30.479,0:07:35.600 study languages so who here thinks that 0:07:33.419,0:07:38.460 language students tend to be quite good 0:07:35.600,0:07:41.910 at grammatical terminology and what 0:07:38.460,0:07:43.680 things mean and getting nods you see 0:07:41.910,0:07:44.970 it's the wrong audience for these things 0:07:43.680,0:07:48.360 people going yeah definitely they're all 0:07:44.970,0:07:50.430 fantastic one of the first things that 0:07:48.360,0:07:53.510 they did is took us all aside and said 0:07:50.430,0:07:55.590 ok we need to teach you English grammar 0:07:53.510,0:07:57.780 because you don't get taught it in the 0:07:55.590,0:07:59.970 school in the UK you're not taught 0:07:57.780,0:08:02.130 English grammar in the same way as you 0:07:59.970,0:08:03.660 you're taught French grammar or German 0:08:02.130,0:08:05.970 grammar so often you have a better 0:08:03.660,0:08:09.210 understanding of of a foreign languages 0:08:05.970,0:08:11.970 grammar than you will of your own but 0:08:09.210,0:08:13.650 that isn't that actually is is it is a 0:08:11.970,0:08:16.080 problem because when you get to things 0:08:13.650,0:08:19.110 like cases if you don't know what a 0:08:16.080,0:08:21.660 direct object is then the accusative 0:08:19.110,0:08:24.840 sounds really strange or an indirect 0:08:21.660,0:08:28.889 object or who here is taught and what a 0:08:24.840,0:08:31.039 verb is by saying it's a doing word what 0:08:28.889,0:08:34.130 does that mean 0:08:31.039,0:08:37.589 none of these or nouns and naming word 0:08:34.130,0:08:38.760 ok and then you give a few examples that 0:08:37.589,0:08:42.360 you need to write down in a test right 0:08:38.760,0:08:48.780 that's it then you get to the vocabulary 0:08:42.360,0:08:49.860 and it's vast it's often exotic unless 0:08:48.780,0:08:54.720 you're talking about French and then 0:08:49.860,0:08:55.770 it's basically 60% of English ok and 0:08:54.720,0:08:59.370 this is my picture that I took in 0:08:55.770,0:09:02.880 Albania just want to show you and such 0:08:59.370,0:09:04.800 an attention [ __ ] that's terrible but 0:09:02.880,0:09:07.800 it there the idea is the vastness you 0:09:04.800,0:09:10.230 get me yet the imagery right but it is 0:09:07.800,0:09:12.990 its vast I mean if you look at language 0:09:10.230,0:09:14.490 and who has had people come up to you 0:09:12.990,0:09:19.230 say ok I speak French or I speak German 0:09:14.490,0:09:21.839 they go oh so you know everything right 0:09:19.230,0:09:23.520 I get that all the time so so what's the 0:09:21.839,0:09:26.730 word for this and then they'd like to 0:09:23.520,0:09:27.810 test you so you can translate it but 0:09:26.730,0:09:29.190 actually what they don't realize and 0:09:27.810,0:09:31.100 what you don't realize yourself as a 0:09:29.190,0:09:33.270 native speaker of a language is that 0:09:31.100,0:09:35.130 sometimes what you need to do is a sort 0:09:33.270,0:09:37.589 of a mind flip when you talk about 0:09:35.130,0:09:39.030 vocabulary so you don't always have the 0:09:37.589,0:09:40.459 words in the language that you're 0:09:39.030,0:09:42.959 learning or language you're speaking 0:09:40.459,0:09:45.060 just to give you an example I live in 0:09:42.959,0:09:48.030 the Republic of Macedonia Macedonian is 0:09:45.060,0:09:52.400 my home language but there's no word for 0:09:48.030,0:09:55.380 bookmark they sell them they have them 0:09:52.400,0:09:58.500 but there's no real word that people 0:09:55.380,0:10:01.550 that use for bookmark there's no real 0:09:58.500,0:10:03.810 word that everybody uses for chives 0:10:01.550,0:10:05.550 there are these kind of bits of 0:10:03.810,0:10:09.060 vocabulary that you want to say and then 0:10:05.550,0:10:13.200 you don't really have a word so you have 0:10:09.060,0:10:14.790 to bend your mind to express things in a 0:10:13.200,0:10:18.000 way that the natives will understand and 0:10:14.790,0:10:20.130 that is one of the big stumbling blocks 0:10:18.000,0:10:22.470 for native English speakers because 0:10:20.130,0:10:24.660 we're used to dominating with exact 0:10:22.470,0:10:26.430 precision what we want to say and how we 0:10:24.660,0:10:30.360 want to say it and you can't always do 0:10:26.430,0:10:33.750 it the exotic thing relates to the 0:10:30.360,0:10:35.520 sounds or how the word is made and and 0:10:33.750,0:10:37.050 and whether it trips off the tongue 0:10:35.520,0:10:39.089 whether it's easy to pronounce it can 0:10:37.050,0:10:41.370 just sound weird to native English 0:10:39.089,0:10:44.400 speakers and it can be confusing because 0:10:41.370,0:10:46.680 sometimes very small change 0:10:44.400,0:10:48.320 in a word means something completely 0:10:46.680,0:10:50.670 different 0:10:48.320,0:10:52.500 there's anyone got any good examples of 0:10:50.670,0:10:54.450 words that they've heard there's a word 0:10:52.500,0:10:55.710 for Cheers in Hungarian and a word that 0:10:54.450,0:11:01.470 means something very different that's 0:10:55.710,0:11:04.500 very close yes what is it come over and 0:11:01.470,0:11:06.360 speak a con come on I take I take active 0:11:04.500,0:11:09.210 volunteers you can come up you've just 0:11:06.360,0:11:16.710 volunteered by saying it now here we go 0:11:09.210,0:11:19.860 I know you love this I guess you gather 0:11:16.710,0:11:22.940 - eggy zeg editor I guess sugar is 0:11:19.860,0:11:22.940 choosing their gates check out those 0:11:23.210,0:11:36.660 like to spank your ass person like that 0:11:28.070,0:11:38.040 so look that's one Thank You Vlad okay 0:11:36.660,0:11:41.940 thank you very much kissing him seven 0:11:38.040,0:11:43.800 and one of the typical things I used to 0:11:41.940,0:11:47.490 hear when I was at school as a school 0:11:43.800,0:11:51.990 boy and in French was merci beaucoup 0:11:47.490,0:11:55.620 instead of merci beaucoup so one is 0:11:51.990,0:11:59.250 thank you beautiful bum and this leads 0:11:55.620,0:12:01.730 me on to accent to pronunciation so 0:11:59.250,0:12:05.310 especially for native English speakers 0:12:01.730,0:12:08.310 but also again for other speakers of 0:12:05.310,0:12:10.920 other languages this is true and there's 0:12:08.310,0:12:13.110 kind of a sounding weird saying these 0:12:10.920,0:12:16.410 things like saying these weird sounds 0:12:13.110,0:12:18.839 that you sound it sounds a bit strange 0:12:16.410,0:12:20.459 and to go and get it into the right word 0:12:18.839,0:12:22.940 at the right time and then not 0:12:20.459,0:12:25.890 overcompensate and say Mel C book you is 0:12:22.940,0:12:28.680 not always easy for for a native English 0:12:25.890,0:12:31.650 speaker because they don't always relate 0:12:28.680,0:12:34.920 to okay how do I actually use this and 0:12:31.650,0:12:35.670 make it sound normal and then when 0:12:34.920,0:12:37.560 you're in a classroom environment 0:12:35.670,0:12:40.800 especially at school you can be seen as 0:12:37.560,0:12:43.260 putting on the talk so if you're the 0:12:40.800,0:12:45.270 only child well where I grew up there's 0:12:43.260,0:12:46.920 kind of a mix of accents but if you 0:12:45.270,0:12:49.200 imagine a school in Liverpool with a 0:12:46.920,0:12:51.900 learning French and they say yeah 0:12:49.200,0:12:54.279 bonjour je m'appelle Richards and just 0:12:51.900,0:12:57.519 SWE's to Liverpool 0:12:54.279,0:12:58.720 your pal fronts area beyond and I've 0:12:57.519,0:13:01.089 just gone over to Yorkshire by the way 0:12:58.720,0:13:02.920 sorry but then the point is you've got 0:13:01.089,0:13:04.959 this local accent and then you're the 0:13:02.920,0:13:07.569 only kid that goes boardroom a perfect 0:13:04.959,0:13:09.999 shot and the other kids can start 0:13:07.569,0:13:12.430 laughing at you because they think oh my 0:13:09.999,0:13:15.370 god what are you doing it's it's like 0:13:12.430,0:13:17.559 you're giving up your identity so when I 0:13:15.370,0:13:18.309 talk about prestige accents and keeping 0:13:17.559,0:13:20.740 your identity 0:13:18.309,0:13:22.629 it doesn't mean you sound posh and you 0:13:20.740,0:13:24.579 sounds sort of all highfalutin in your 0:13:22.629,0:13:26.879 language what it actually refers to is 0:13:24.579,0:13:30.430 the group language the pack language and 0:13:26.879,0:13:32.079 that is the accent and that's the 0:13:30.430,0:13:33.999 vocabulary that you use so as soon as 0:13:32.079,0:13:36.879 you move away from that especially in a 0:13:33.999,0:13:40.360 language society like the English 0:13:36.879,0:13:42.339 language in the world where we very much 0:13:40.360,0:13:46.240 judge people on their accents from the 0:13:42.339,0:13:48.370 standard to where they're from it can 0:13:46.240,0:13:50.559 take you away from that group and it can 0:13:48.370,0:13:52.360 it can make you feel isolated or people 0:13:50.559,0:13:55.120 can make you feel isolated because of it 0:13:52.360,0:13:58.629 so sometimes it's a badge that you wear 0:13:55.120,0:14:01.240 with pride this strong accent and you 0:13:58.629,0:14:04.120 think it's fun to do it especially as 0:14:01.240,0:14:06.759 kids when we will learn the numbers in 0:14:04.120,0:14:08.589 French I remember I had to go through 0:14:06.759,0:14:11.050 the basics of French even though I'd 0:14:08.589,0:14:12.670 studied it as a smaller child I had to 0:14:11.050,0:14:15.189 go through it with with my peers and 0:14:12.670,0:14:17.819 they were they got through the numbers 0:14:15.189,0:14:23.370 and they were going on dicks twice, 0:14:17.819,0:14:23.370 Quattro Cinque six 0:14:23.630,0:14:36.740 tweet nerf dicks and that was hilarious 0:14:31.569,0:14:38.509 still is actually my mum came over to 0:14:36.740,0:14:41.240 actually talking on this my mum came 0:14:38.509,0:14:44.300 over to visit me in Poland when I was 0:14:41.240,0:14:45.649 staying there in Poznan and I've got 0:14:44.300,0:14:47.449 into this really weird mindset if I 0:14:45.649,0:14:50.600 don't see the natural English link 0:14:47.449,0:14:54.199 always straight away so who here knows 0:14:50.600,0:14:56.779 polish okay so it was a place where you 0:14:54.199,0:14:59.089 sell alcohol in Poland and it will have 0:14:56.779,0:15:06.110 written alcohol oh yeah 0:14:59.089,0:15:08.120 in Polish my 24 alcoholic yeah and my 0:15:06.110,0:15:11.480 mum came over he's a native speaker of 0:15:08.120,0:15:12.860 English too and monolingual and she said 0:15:11.480,0:15:22.519 I wasn't that really clever they've 0:15:12.860,0:15:24.199 called it the alcohol so then practicing 0:15:22.519,0:15:25.880 the language so you know this is a thing 0:15:24.199,0:15:29.269 that native English speakers have a real 0:15:25.880,0:15:31.639 issue with everybody speaks English 0:15:29.269,0:15:34.310 everyone I mean that they want to speak 0:15:31.639,0:15:37.819 it they want to practice and this can be 0:15:34.310,0:15:41.259 an issue and the level of English in the 0:15:37.819,0:15:45.500 target languages language etiquette and 0:15:41.259,0:15:49.130 reactions so just to explain some of 0:15:45.500,0:15:51.380 what I've written on on here and who 0:15:49.130,0:15:53.000 here has been in a situation where you 0:15:51.380,0:15:56.750 want to learn the language you go to the 0:15:53.000,0:15:59.509 country and then it goes and yeah you 0:15:56.750,0:16:01.550 get your your Dutch is very good sir 0:15:59.509,0:16:03.920 sure it's really where were you from in 0:16:01.550,0:16:07.040 England I 0:16:03.920,0:16:10.639 okay explain a longsword this curve a 0:16:07.040,0:16:13.189 fairly man a Lanza and the but they look 0:16:10.639,0:16:15.529 in the game yes but I think is probably 0:16:13.189,0:16:20.630 easier in English right 0:16:15.529,0:16:22.759 and then it's not that they always want 0:16:20.630,0:16:24.860 to force you to speak English it's that 0:16:22.759,0:16:26.930 they enjoy it and sometimes it's native 0:16:24.860,0:16:28.639 English because we forget this and you 0:16:26.930,0:16:30.680 can get offended as I need to English 0:16:28.639,0:16:33.199 speaker as well because you think oh god 0:16:30.680,0:16:35.449 they won't even let me speak but it's 0:16:33.199,0:16:37.370 not always the case so from the one side 0:16:35.449,0:16:38.900 they're trying to make your life easier 0:16:37.370,0:16:41.540 by speaking English because they know 0:16:38.900,0:16:44.060 that you're not going to stress but from 0:16:41.540,0:16:46.520 the other side you're seeing is Wow is 0:16:44.060,0:16:48.110 it really that bad that I can't even 0:16:46.520,0:16:49.520 speak to you for more than five minutes 0:16:48.110,0:16:53.210 without you turning this conversation 0:16:49.520,0:16:56.180 into English and it leaves the English 0:16:53.210,0:17:01.070 speaker feeling very sad disappointed 0:16:56.180,0:17:03.200 and bit embarrassed and oh dear maybe I 0:17:01.070,0:17:06.290 should just not bother everyone speaks 0:17:03.200,0:17:07.610 English and the level of English does 0:17:06.290,0:17:10.550 play a part because sometimes when you 0:17:07.610,0:17:13.670 go when I went to Poland the level of 0:17:10.550,0:17:15.260 English is generally quite low compared 0:17:13.670,0:17:17.270 to say the Netherlands or Sweden or 0:17:15.260,0:17:20.140 Norway or Iceland or somewhere like that 0:17:17.270,0:17:23.120 where I'd say the average level is a b2 0:17:20.140,0:17:24.890 upper echelons of a b2 whereas in 0:17:23.120,0:17:27.020 somewhere like Poland it's probably an 0:17:24.890,0:17:29.240 a2 level the functional they get by is 0:17:27.020,0:17:31.490 you can go to Poland n' and talk to 0:17:29.240,0:17:34.130 people generally but you can quite 0:17:31.490,0:17:36.110 quickly overcome like Alex was talking 0:17:34.130,0:17:37.790 about yesterday you know when you get to 0:17:36.110,0:17:39.980 that level you can then quite easily 0:17:37.790,0:17:41.510 just speak in the target language that's 0:17:39.980,0:17:45.770 more difficult for some languages than 0:17:41.510,0:17:47.030 others and that can be intimidating but 0:17:45.770,0:17:48.500 as a native English speaker as well 0:17:47.030,0:17:51.170 we're always very used to having the 0:17:48.500,0:17:54.170 upper hand and we use this to our 0:17:51.170,0:17:55.460 advantage of course because you can 0:17:54.170,0:17:57.940 dominate a conversation very easily 0:17:55.460,0:18:00.110 because you have a rich vocabulary 0:17:57.940,0:18:02.480 automatically because you is you're an 0:18:00.110,0:18:04.700 educated native speaker of English you 0:18:02.480,0:18:07.010 know you you're used to learning how to 0:18:04.700,0:18:10.820 debate or or talk or put your points 0:18:07.010,0:18:12.020 across in a very eloquent way whereas if 0:18:10.820,0:18:14.420 you've learned English as a foreign 0:18:12.020,0:18:16.610 language then naturally it's more of a 0:18:14.420,0:18:18.410 struggle to get to that stage so as a 0:18:16.610,0:18:20.570 native English speaker you can get 0:18:18.410,0:18:22.520 complacent with this ability to express 0:18:20.570,0:18:25.250 yourself without any boundaries and 0:18:22.520,0:18:28.150 sometimes actually the practicing the 0:18:25.250,0:18:30.770 language is an issue internally because 0:18:28.150,0:18:32.510 you feel restricted for all the reasons 0:18:30.770,0:18:34.960 we talked about before of grammar 0:18:32.510,0:18:36.830 vocabulary that you don't have the same 0:18:34.960,0:18:40.310 domination of the language that you do 0:18:36.830,0:18:42.380 in English but then also some of the 0:18:40.310,0:18:43.910 things come into place language 0:18:42.380,0:18:47.559 etiquette has anybody heard me talk 0:18:43.910,0:18:49.749 about language etiquette before no 0:18:47.559,0:18:53.110 for me there is a real strict language 0:18:49.749,0:18:54.580 etiquette that goes on with learning a 0:18:53.110,0:18:57.159 language or speaking a language and 0:18:54.580,0:18:59.470 practicing a language and it relates to 0:18:57.159,0:18:59.950 where you are and what you're doing in 0:18:59.470,0:19:03.220 who it's with 0:18:59.950,0:19:06.340 so for me personally if I'm sitting at 0:19:03.220,0:19:09.279 home in the United Kingdom and a German 0:19:06.340,0:19:13.120 or a Spaniard or whoever else walks up 0:19:09.279,0:19:16.570 to me and speaks to me in English maybe 0:19:13.120,0:19:17.679 a low level of English but my instant 0:19:16.570,0:19:19.899 reaction is not to go 0:19:17.679,0:19:22.509 I had vamos vamos all learn it but 0:19:19.899,0:19:25.960 you're not because I know how that feels 0:19:22.509,0:19:28.389 from the other side so I sit there and I 0:19:25.960,0:19:29.889 okay let's speak slowly take this slowly 0:19:28.389,0:19:33.070 and help them out because they're making 0:19:29.889,0:19:34.360 an effort to speak my language so this 0:19:33.070,0:19:36.850 is the thing that native English 0:19:34.360,0:19:38.379 speakers don't always get abroad because 0:19:36.850,0:19:41.759 the reactions are what the hell are you 0:19:38.379,0:19:47.769 learning my language for this is Iceland 0:19:41.759,0:19:49.600 well the people is I want 300,000 you 0:19:47.769,0:19:51.039 get it in all sorts of places waiting 0:19:49.600,0:19:52.720 whales as well sometimes you'll get it 0:19:51.039,0:19:55.869 where people you know a native English 0:19:52.720,0:19:58.240 we call them Welsh and it's like why 0:19:55.869,0:20:00.789 you're speaking Welsh it's like you can 0:19:58.240,0:20:03.059 just be English in Wales some people are 0:20:00.789,0:20:05.049 now the attitudes are changing slightly 0:20:03.059,0:20:06.249 especially because of immigration and 0:20:05.049,0:20:08.019 people wanting people to immigrate to 0:20:06.249,0:20:11.529 assimilate into the culture so they 0:20:08.019,0:20:13.779 don't know always but the the language 0:20:11.529,0:20:15.639 etiquette of speaking the language of 0:20:13.779,0:20:19.029 the country you're in I think should 0:20:15.639,0:20:20.980 hold true so when I'm abroad I don't 0:20:19.029,0:20:22.840 feel the need to have to speak English 0:20:20.980,0:20:25.440 to accommodate somebody if they want to 0:20:22.840,0:20:28.960 just practice their English but I can 0:20:25.440,0:20:30.789 compromise I can be nice about it yeah 0:20:28.960,0:20:31.330 visit Yeti and Iceland each kind of toy 0:20:30.789,0:20:34.269 train 0:20:31.330,0:20:38.019 you must be linked nor English bleedin 0:20:34.269,0:20:40.450 either your masters I need NICs hours 0:20:38.019,0:20:42.340 each mine explosions or weasel fish pond 0:20:40.450,0:20:45.820 to house on does this me you have kind 0:20:42.340,0:20:48.820 image manage can often low English so I 0:20:45.820,0:20:51.369 don't really worry so much personally 0:20:48.820,0:20:52.960 anymore I used to when I was learning 0:20:51.369,0:20:54.940 the languages but now I live in in 0:20:52.960,0:20:56.470 Skopje with my with my wife and my 0:20:54.940,0:20:58.149 daughter we speak five languages at home 0:20:56.470,0:21:00.710 on a daily basis and then other 0:20:58.149,0:21:02.480 languages outside I don't worry so much 0:21:00.710,0:21:05.929 but I understand why people do and and 0:21:02.480,0:21:07.130 it is important to show that support for 0:21:05.929,0:21:12.010 people learning your language 0:21:07.130,0:21:14.179 the reactions actually in 0:21:12.010,0:21:16.850 english-speaking countries particularly 0:21:14.179,0:21:18.770 the UK there is soft and very strong 0:21:16.850,0:21:23.330 reaction against speaking a foreign 0:21:18.770,0:21:27.110 language socially it's I'm not going to 0:21:23.330,0:21:28.700 say unacceptable but people and do do 0:21:27.110,0:21:31.730 have a reaction Polish people definitely 0:21:28.700,0:21:33.320 pick up on it in the UK and a lot more 0:21:31.730,0:21:35.510 reluctant men to speak Polish to 0:21:33.320,0:21:37.640 somebody who's not Polish speaking in 0:21:35.510,0:21:40.190 public as well sometimes they feel the 0:21:37.640,0:21:42.100 eyes going to them what are you talking 0:21:40.190,0:21:45.409 about you're talking about me aren't you 0:21:42.100,0:21:46.039 foreigner and I've experienced this 0:21:45.409,0:21:48.580 myself 0:21:46.039,0:21:50.779 and as a native British person and 0:21:48.580,0:21:53.450 you're growing up speaking English as a 0:21:50.779,0:21:56.510 first language when my wife and I moved 0:21:53.450,0:21:57.980 to the UK to live for 3 years and we've 0:21:56.510,0:22:01.070 only ever spoken Macedonian at home 0:21:57.980,0:22:02.990 we've never used English when we went 0:22:01.070,0:22:07.190 out into the city this is my home city 0:22:02.990,0:22:08.720 of Chester and people actually almost 0:22:07.190,0:22:10.370 psychologically there's a psychological 0:22:08.720,0:22:12.320 barrier to refuse to believe that I was 0:22:10.370,0:22:16.130 really British because they heard me 0:22:12.320,0:22:17.870 speaking Polish Slavic language it 0:22:16.130,0:22:20.169 sounds lovak and the amount of people 0:22:17.870,0:22:22.460 that came up to me in the UK to say 0:22:20.169,0:22:28.039 excuse me at which language you speaking 0:22:22.460,0:22:31.669 there and I'd say Macedonian okay you're 0:22:28.039,0:22:35.419 not polish then I thought you polish no 0:22:31.669,0:22:40.010 I'm actually British no and you're 0:22:35.419,0:22:43.190 speaking Macedonian because and people 0:22:40.010,0:22:46.390 actually did this to me it's been in the 0:22:43.190,0:22:50.029 curious realms to the blatant rude 0:22:46.390,0:22:52.059 realms and it's it's a strange it's a 0:22:50.029,0:22:55.460 strange thing to see of your own country 0:22:52.059,0:22:56.720 so you think you know people have these 0:22:55.460,0:22:58.940 great reactions all you speak all these 0:22:56.720,0:23:00.649 languages fantastic but sometimes the 0:22:58.940,0:23:02.630 reality of speaking all these languages 0:23:00.649,0:23:05.090 it actually makes people a bit 0:23:02.630,0:23:06.799 suspicious sometimes and why would you 0:23:05.090,0:23:08.029 do it why would you actually speak all 0:23:06.799,0:23:10.559 these languages why would you speak it 0:23:08.029,0:23:13.049 in front of me when I can't understand 0:23:10.559,0:23:15.419 and and it goes back to the language 0:23:13.049,0:23:19.740 etiquette as well it's like hmm there's 0:23:15.419,0:23:23.610 a tight sort of line to tread with with 0:23:19.740,0:23:25.769 these kinds of things and you know I've 0:23:23.610,0:23:27.539 had people say all sorts all sorts of 0:23:25.769,0:23:29.820 things the only language in the UK that 0:23:27.539,0:23:32.999 I found got really positive reactions 0:23:29.820,0:23:35.340 generally was French because it's seen 0:23:32.999,0:23:40.440 as a as either a cultural equal or 0:23:35.340,0:23:43.440 slightly posh still but and the other 0:23:40.440,0:23:45.419 language is Spanish and German so so but 0:23:43.440,0:23:47.759 but speaking a Slavic language was 0:23:45.419,0:23:51.240 definitely I got more negative reactions 0:23:47.759,0:23:52.919 and positive unfortunately so that comes 0:23:51.240,0:23:54.539 takes me to picking languages so how do 0:23:52.919,0:23:56.879 you actually pick the languages you want 0:23:54.539,0:23:57.749 to speak bearing in mind all of this you 0:23:56.879,0:24:00.360 know the thing that we're talking about 0:23:57.749,0:24:02.220 a you know pronunciation how easy it is 0:24:00.360,0:24:04.950 for you to actually learn the vocabulary 0:24:02.220,0:24:06.240 to learn the grammar to speak it for 0:24:04.950,0:24:09.470 that to be then acceptable where you're 0:24:06.240,0:24:12.809 living to get the practice that you need 0:24:09.470,0:24:16.230 well sometimes the languages are picked 0:24:12.809,0:24:18.980 for you so you go to school you start 0:24:16.230,0:24:21.629 and you have in the UK French German 0:24:18.980,0:24:24.179 possibly Spanish or some other language 0:24:21.629,0:24:26.039 that's quite commonly used and they're 0:24:24.179,0:24:28.049 picked for four good reasons there 0:24:26.039,0:24:29.970 they're quite you know well spoken 0:24:28.049,0:24:32.460 languages in the world and are useful 0:24:29.970,0:24:37.110 for the job market later on so there is 0:24:32.460,0:24:39.330 some some method to the madness but 0:24:37.110,0:24:40.470 there are also these prestige languages 0:24:39.330,0:24:42.059 that you think of you know people will 0:24:40.470,0:24:43.769 talk about I want my child to speak this 0:24:42.059,0:24:45.570 really good rationale or you get these 0:24:43.769,0:24:47.669 you know posh private schools that will 0:24:45.570,0:24:50.730 teach Japanese or Chinese because it's 0:24:47.669,0:24:53.659 seen as a prestige language in addition 0:24:50.730,0:24:56.940 to the prestige language of French and 0:24:53.659,0:24:59.639 then there's heritage so in places like 0:24:56.940,0:25:01.799 Wales you have to learn Welsh to some 0:24:59.639,0:25:04.559 degree if it's is the first language or 0:25:01.799,0:25:05.850 a second language its I think now 0:25:04.559,0:25:07.080 they've changed it so you only learn it 0:25:05.850,0:25:09.440 till about fourteen or something like 0:25:07.080,0:25:11.940 that but you you have to do some Welsh 0:25:09.440,0:25:15.200 because it's obviously with the official 0:25:11.940,0:25:18.659 language of the country next English and 0:25:15.200,0:25:19.710 but there's often a lot of stigma 0:25:18.659,0:25:21.779 attached to some of these heritage 0:25:19.710,0:25:24.809 language languages 0:25:21.779,0:25:27.809 people don't want to seem different so 0:25:24.809,0:25:29.309 I've met people who are either from 0:25:27.809,0:25:32.639 Welsh extraction who are actually very 0:25:29.309,0:25:36.509 against and the Welsh language I've met 0:25:32.639,0:25:38.429 people who who speak languages from from 0:25:36.509,0:25:41.099 India or penguin Bangladesh or Pakistan 0:25:38.429,0:25:42.269 and their parents spoke them at home but 0:25:41.099,0:25:45.509 they speak them with a very strong 0:25:42.269,0:25:47.999 Yorkshire accent or but other regional 0:25:45.509,0:25:50.489 accents and they become very British and 0:25:47.999,0:25:51.690 it's it's not it's not that they shun 0:25:50.489,0:25:54.059 the language because they use it at home 0:25:51.690,0:25:56.279 but you you get these reactions of 0:25:54.059,0:25:58.830 wanting to fit in so anyone seen East is 0:25:56.279,0:26:01.589 East it's a really good film in the UK 0:25:58.830,0:26:03.869 British film that demonstrates this this 0:26:01.589,0:26:09.960 struggle between a Pakistani father and 0:26:03.869,0:26:12.029 a Yorkshire nun who and the children are 0:26:09.960,0:26:14.249 sort of caught between the two cultures 0:26:12.029,0:26:16.080 I like what they're speaking and they go 0:26:14.249,0:26:18.719 to they go and they read the Koran and 0:26:16.080,0:26:20.609 they learn Arabic and they but they 0:26:18.719,0:26:23.009 don't take the language so seriously 0:26:20.609,0:26:25.259 because then I suppose the scene being 0:26:23.009,0:26:27.779 seen is different to the local community 0:26:25.259,0:26:30.929 and these are things that I find really 0:26:27.779,0:26:32.879 quite sad because that the diversity and 0:26:30.929,0:26:34.679 and actually having these these 0:26:32.879,0:26:38.879 additional heritage things are really 0:26:34.679,0:26:41.759 nice and and quite quite good for myself 0:26:38.879,0:26:45.149 personally I actually I heard Welsh as a 0:26:41.759,0:26:47.519 child and nun and I always knew I grew 0:26:45.149,0:26:50.279 up with speaking English but there were 0:26:47.519,0:26:51.839 always sort of elements of Welsh put 0:26:50.279,0:26:55.710 into the English as well like we knew 0:26:51.839,0:26:57.440 Qaeda gag shut your mouth you know 0:26:55.710,0:26:59.849 lovely lovely little things like that 0:26:57.440,0:27:04.320 like the Irish people that learn point 0:26:59.849,0:27:05.429 Mahorn yeah gets my bum but they learn 0:27:04.320,0:27:06.450 all it's one of the first things that 0:27:05.429,0:27:10.769 you learn right how'd you learn Irish 0:27:06.450,0:27:12.149 and but the there are other things that 0:27:10.769,0:27:14.969 motivate you learning languages I mean 0:27:12.149,0:27:16.979 you know even in my later stages of 0:27:14.969,0:27:19.249 language learning when I had who has 0:27:16.979,0:27:21.599 language lists that they want to learn 0:27:19.249,0:27:23.669 all right [ __ ] room isn't it's a 0:27:21.599,0:27:25.919 great audience for this and you've got 0:27:23.669,0:27:27.559 like Burmese you got more so just 0:27:25.919,0:27:30.029 because you can say it 0:27:27.559,0:27:32.369 Zulu all these fantastic languages that 0:27:30.029,0:27:35.750 you'll probably not learn but you dream 0:27:32.369,0:27:39.370 of it and never in my wildest dream 0:27:35.750,0:27:43.130 did I ever put Macedonia on the list and 0:27:39.370,0:27:45.380 because of this this last reason it's 0:27:43.130,0:27:49.160 like one of the best languages that I 0:27:45.380,0:27:53.150 speak and just because yeah not now my 0:27:49.160,0:27:55.510 family is half Macedonian and and we use 0:27:53.150,0:28:00.080 it at home and we use it all the time 0:27:55.510,0:28:01.520 the road ahead so the first one is the 0:28:00.080,0:28:03.800 hardest the first language so anybody 0:28:01.520,0:28:05.030 out there are notes like in this room 0:28:03.800,0:28:07.160 it's like preaching to the converted 0:28:05.030,0:28:08.630 right but there are people that look on 0:28:07.160,0:28:10.250 this on YouTube look at the video and 0:28:08.630,0:28:13.310 they're struggling with the first 0:28:10.250,0:28:14.900 language and I think bear in mind the 0:28:13.310,0:28:16.820 first one is is often the hardest one to 0:28:14.900,0:28:18.320 learn and people often come to you and 0:28:16.820,0:28:24.020 say well isn't it really easy after that 0:28:18.320,0:28:26.000 and yes it is no it isn't it is because 0:28:24.020,0:28:27.050 once you've learned one you can imagine 0:28:26.000,0:28:30.320 what it's like to speak another language 0:28:27.050,0:28:32.690 and I think that mindset and that 0:28:30.320,0:28:34.850 ability to to consider what it is to 0:28:32.690,0:28:39.020 speak another language stays with you 0:28:34.850,0:28:40.190 then for further learning and the other 0:28:39.020,0:28:41.570 thing that's really important when you 0:28:40.190,0:28:43.970 learn a language is language bridges 0:28:41.570,0:28:47.420 created so when you go through the 0:28:43.970,0:28:49.940 process again grammatical terms often 0:28:47.420,0:28:51.980 repeat themselves or have similarities 0:28:49.940,0:28:54.530 you can you can sort of associate things 0:28:51.980,0:28:56.360 better we go back to the vocabulary it 0:28:54.530,0:28:59.150 doesn't seem as vast anymore I've learnt 0:28:56.360,0:29:00.950 French now I'm going to Spanish oh okay 0:28:59.150,0:29:04.040 it's quite a lot of words here are the 0:29:00.950,0:29:06.230 same or even if you go to Turkish and I 0:29:04.040,0:29:11.420 found lots and lots of French words in 0:29:06.230,0:29:12.230 Turkish so what the hell and the same in 0:29:11.420,0:29:14.600 Russian you know you get all these 0:29:12.230,0:29:17.440 French words that go through because 0:29:14.600,0:29:21.740 it's it was a it was the English of 0:29:17.440,0:29:23.990 before English times right it was French 0:29:21.740,0:29:26.240 so it's permeated all of these different 0:29:23.990,0:29:29.120 societies in different ways and and it 0:29:26.240,0:29:30.440 really helps my advice is always if 0:29:29.120,0:29:32.780 you're a native English speaker learn 0:29:30.440,0:29:34.280 French it helps you with English it 0:29:32.780,0:29:37.010 helps you understand English literature 0:29:34.280,0:29:39.260 it helps you to expand your vocabulary 0:29:37.010,0:29:40.580 without having to work very hard because 0:29:39.260,0:29:42.230 you have French and you have a better 0:29:40.580,0:29:43.910 vocabulary in your own native tongue and 0:29:42.230,0:29:45.800 it's one of the reasons I chose French 0:29:43.910,0:29:47.900 as a native language for my daughter as 0:29:45.800,0:29:49.020 well because I knew that it would be 0:29:47.900,0:29:53.520 really important 0:29:49.020,0:29:54.809 and taking on new languages so when you 0:29:53.520,0:29:56.100 when you've got all of this you've got 0:29:54.809,0:29:58.890 this new mindset you've got all these 0:29:56.100,0:30:00.570 links and bridges from the new language 0:29:58.890,0:30:02.750 that you've learned then you don't feel 0:30:00.570,0:30:05.340 so scared to take on a new language and 0:30:02.750,0:30:08.390 you can also pretend that you're no 0:30:05.340,0:30:08.390 longer a native English speaker 0:30:08.420,0:30:14.880 an interesting thing actually on this 0:30:10.970,0:30:17.429 link to some of the cultural things we 0:30:14.880,0:30:20.490 talked about in the UK my wife and I 0:30:17.429,0:30:23.640 were in Scotland I was working on the 0:30:20.490,0:30:28.410 Antarctic Treaty and we went to a 0:30:23.640,0:30:30.000 restaurant and the the the guy working 0:30:28.410,0:30:32.790 there I came over to take our order and 0:30:30.000,0:30:34.170 he had he had a strong accent and at 0:30:32.790,0:30:36.270 that time Polish people only started 0:30:34.170,0:30:37.950 arriving into the UK so we weren't 0:30:36.270,0:30:40.740 really clear we hadn't really been 0:30:37.950,0:30:43.920 following you know the immigration that 0:30:40.740,0:30:45.330 was to follow and I think Poland only 0:30:43.920,0:30:48.050 been here for a little bit of time so it 0:30:45.330,0:30:50.910 was anything possible to come over and 0:30:48.050,0:30:52.890 the guy was speaking this Slavic accent 0:30:50.910,0:30:55.710 my wife and I was speaking in Macedonian 0:30:52.890,0:30:57.600 and we said excuse me where are you from 0:30:55.710,0:31:00.090 because we thought maybe there's a 0:30:57.600,0:31:04.200 chance he's from the Balkans and he went 0:31:00.090,0:31:06.540 and from Croatia had thought of Brad 0:31:04.200,0:31:08.490 there modulo the Givaudan joaquina 0:31:06.540,0:31:13.530 janosh gone we can speak our language 0:31:08.490,0:31:18.090 and he just looked horrified as Annie 0:31:13.530,0:31:20.070 went and then Alan had also mish-mosh 0:31:18.090,0:31:21.090 died over well caught you what we 0:31:20.070,0:31:23.220 couldn't understand why didn't 0:31:21.090,0:31:24.630 understand this Croatian guy was like we 0:31:23.220,0:31:26.490 were speaking in the language why can't 0:31:24.630,0:31:27.870 you understand us and at first we 0:31:26.490,0:31:32.520 thought maybe we were standing too 0:31:27.870,0:31:34.470 serbian so we know have we crossed some 0:31:32.520,0:31:37.050 sort of line etiquette boundary here 0:31:34.470,0:31:40.860 that we shouldn't be doing with okay we 0:31:37.050,0:31:43.440 didn't use the infinitive sorry and but 0:31:40.860,0:31:44.820 we we had soon started to realize this 0:31:43.440,0:31:49.610 guy didn't understand the word we were 0:31:44.820,0:31:49.610 saying anywhere actually I'm from Poland 0:31:49.690,0:31:54.679 and then it clicked and we went why did 0:31:52.669,0:31:56.719 you say you were from Croatia because 0:31:54.679,0:32:00.979 because I get less negative reactions if 0:31:56.719,0:32:03.589 I say I'm from Croatia than Poland yeah 0:32:00.979,0:32:04.909 and you can you can use this trick but 0:32:03.589,0:32:07.909 make sure you speak the language that's 0:32:04.909,0:32:09.559 kind of the moral of story so if you go 0:32:07.909,0:32:11.440 to a new country and you want to say I 0:32:09.559,0:32:13.729 don't speak English you want to pretend 0:32:11.440,0:32:17.959 just what one of my tricks 0:32:13.729,0:32:19.489 was always I'd go I don't understand and 0:32:17.959,0:32:20.719 then they just get they got to get 0:32:19.489,0:32:21.979 nervous about their own level of English 0:32:20.719,0:32:25.070 and then turn back to their native 0:32:21.979,0:32:27.099 language there's a really good trick by 0:32:25.070,0:32:29.269 the way it works really well you go 0:32:27.099,0:32:30.289 strain and then they may repeat it once 0:32:29.269,0:32:35.329 or twice now if you do it three times 0:32:30.289,0:32:36.950 ago oh my god my English is crap should 0:32:35.329,0:32:39.649 maybe stay with the language that he's 0:32:36.950,0:32:42.109 trying to speak to me instead but make 0:32:39.649,0:32:43.579 sure you can speak hit me if you can and 0:32:42.109,0:32:52.419 they happen to speak the language that 0:32:43.579,0:32:54.559 you claim to be a native of ich and so 0:32:52.419,0:32:56.149 if this is going to go for there we go 0:32:54.559,0:32:58.429 there's a lovely little thing I like 0:32:56.149,0:32:59.749 this I like bridges there they're a nice 0:32:58.429,0:33:01.159 little thing to add on 0:32:59.749,0:33:02.719 I thought pictures would make you 0:33:01.159,0:33:07.359 interested in what I was saying was 0:33:02.719,0:33:09.619 boring okay so multilingual vs. polyglot 0:33:07.359,0:33:11.599 does anybody else make this distinction 0:33:09.619,0:33:13.190 nowadays for me these has changed in my 0:33:11.599,0:33:14.929 head so anybody else make the 0:33:13.190,0:33:18.950 distinction anymore you make 0:33:14.929,0:33:21.079 distinctions yeah for me the 0:33:18.950,0:33:24.109 multilingual is the Luxembourgish person 0:33:21.079,0:33:26.690 who has had to speak three four 0:33:24.109,0:33:28.099 languages through necessity they go to 0:33:26.690,0:33:29.809 kindergarten in Luxembourgish than they 0:33:28.099,0:33:31.159 do primary secondary school in French 0:33:29.809,0:33:32.899 German German French whichever way 0:33:31.159,0:33:34.459 around the duets and they learn English 0:33:32.899,0:33:35.809 because everyone learns English and they 0:33:34.459,0:33:37.429 may learn a foreign language like 0:33:35.809,0:33:39.769 they've got the largest number of 0:33:37.429,0:33:42.019 immigrants from Portugal in anywhere 0:33:39.769,0:33:43.729 else in Europe outside Portugal and in 0:33:42.019,0:33:45.200 Luxembourg I believe that wasn't a 0:33:43.729,0:33:47.539 statistic ten years ago when I first 0:33:45.200,0:33:49.459 learnt it and I'm sticking with it it's 0:33:47.539,0:33:51.619 a good one so they may have a home 0:33:49.459,0:33:52.729 language like Portuguese or Serbian 0:33:51.619,0:33:56.389 there's quite a lot of Serbian speakers 0:33:52.729,0:33:58.159 that moved over during the war and so 0:33:56.389,0:33:59.839 they have four or five languages just 0:33:58.159,0:34:02.179 without starting but does that make them 0:33:59.839,0:34:03.650 particularly a polyglot in the way we 0:34:02.179,0:34:06.410 think of polyglots in all 0:34:03.650,0:34:08.120 online community well the question I 0:34:06.410,0:34:13.310 asked a minute ago who hears from 0:34:08.120,0:34:14.810 Luxembourg no one answered and I think 0:34:13.310,0:34:16.399 there is one there's one person that I 0:34:14.810,0:34:18.950 have met called Christine I think her 0:34:16.399,0:34:20.330 name is who is from Luxembourg and is in 0:34:18.950,0:34:22.970 the community but I don't come across 0:34:20.330,0:34:25.070 them very often and I think because for 0:34:22.970,0:34:26.990 me polyglot doesn't just mean speaking 0:34:25.070,0:34:29.300 languages and people often ask how many 0:34:26.990,0:34:31.000 languages is it for me it's not the 0:34:29.300,0:34:33.500 amount of languages per se 0:34:31.000,0:34:35.450 yes it's speaking more than maybe one or 0:34:33.500,0:34:37.970 two but beyond that is it really 0:34:35.450,0:34:41.060 important no it's actually this 0:34:37.970,0:34:43.760 deliberate action going forward and 0:34:41.060,0:34:46.220 picking languages and learning them that 0:34:43.760,0:34:48.700 is what a polyglot is for me it's 0:34:46.220,0:34:52.240 somebody who does this deliberately and 0:34:48.700,0:34:52.240 for no apparent reason 0:34:53.050,0:35:04.760 yeah am I right or am i right 0:34:56.380,0:35:07.360 haha so we see people like these you 0:35:04.760,0:35:12.470 know natural multi linguist from America 0:35:07.360,0:35:13.750 you know professor aguas our very own 0:35:12.470,0:35:19.940 Alex 0:35:13.750,0:35:20.390 Benny Inman ola you did because Germany 0:35:19.940,0:35:21.890 as well 0:35:20.390,0:35:23.600 pretty monolingual country you learn a 0:35:21.890,0:35:24.890 bit of English but you don't always 0:35:23.600,0:35:26.810 learn the languages so for me these like 0:35:24.890,0:35:29.120 all these countries count it's not just 0:35:26.810,0:35:31.270 about english-speaking countries who 0:35:29.120,0:35:34.130 knows who that is 0:35:31.270,0:35:37.760 yeah Hungarian Katherine yeah 0:35:34.130,0:35:39.020 hunger Hungaria hungry is also one of 0:35:37.760,0:35:42.230 those countries where they tend just to 0:35:39.020,0:35:46.670 speak Hungarian right but these are the 0:35:42.230,0:35:52.090 people err Tim yeah there we go she's 0:35:46.670,0:36:00.010 there at the back Lindsey at Lucca noses 0:35:52.090,0:36:04.430 Steve Suzanna David its - Jay yeah oli 0:36:00.010,0:36:06.380 Mike Campbell and Donovan and these are 0:36:04.430,0:36:10.330 all people from pretty monolingual 0:36:06.380,0:36:11.740 backgrounds and yeah they may have 0:36:10.330,0:36:14.770 had languages a little bit younger they 0:36:11.740,0:36:16.150 may not but these people all went on to 0:36:14.770,0:36:17.320 do something incredible with learning 0:36:16.150,0:36:19.570 lots and lots of languages these are 0:36:17.320,0:36:22.150 just examples that I chose randomly 0:36:19.570,0:36:24.460 because of you know they're known in the 0:36:22.150,0:36:26.470 community and they're their faces that 0:36:24.460,0:36:29.770 you will instantly recognize and maybe 0:36:26.470,0:36:31.090 attach a meaning to straightaway but I 0:36:29.770,0:36:33.940 could equally have used a number of 0:36:31.090,0:36:43.270 faces in this room and have the same 0:36:33.940,0:36:45.900 effect so really that is me and I'm 0:36:43.270,0:36:45.900 happy yes 0:37:12.880,0:37:17.420 okay let's take another country as an 0:37:15.829,0:37:19.279 idea instead of Luxembourg because they 0:37:17.420,0:37:21.439 do education in in a number of languages 0:37:19.279,0:37:22.999 so if anybody didn't hear that the 0:37:21.439,0:37:24.160 argument was whether or not there are 0:37:22.999,0:37:26.930 differences in levels between 0:37:24.160,0:37:28.489 multilingual and polyglot so whether or 0:37:26.930,0:37:30.529 not you would have a bilingual as a 0:37:28.489,0:37:32.299 perfect bilingual I'm guessing you mean 0:37:30.529,0:37:33.650 by this or a trilingual perfect 0:37:32.299,0:37:35.660 trilingual or multilingual 0:37:33.650,0:37:39.799 and extension of that beyond these three 0:37:35.660,0:37:41.689 languages and I think probably a better 0:37:39.799,0:37:44.089 maybe maybe a better country to pick 0:37:41.689,0:37:45.920 would be somewhere like India or some 0:37:44.089,0:37:47.959 African countries as well where they 0:37:45.920,0:37:49.130 will learn languages of people around 0:37:47.959,0:37:52.549 but they'll learn them for different 0:37:49.130,0:37:54.349 reasons it will be for business for just 0:37:52.549,0:37:56.269 having a coffee trade whatever they 0:37:54.349,0:37:57.529 doing they'll do it for different 0:37:56.269,0:37:59.989 reasons so they don't need the same 0:37:57.529,0:38:01.519 level in the language and they didn't 0:37:59.989,0:38:02.929 means necessarily they can't necessarily 0:38:01.519,0:38:05.539 say the same things in all of the 0:38:02.929,0:38:08.900 languages either they may not even have 0:38:05.539,0:38:12.229 one mother tongue that's very strong it 0:38:08.900,0:38:13.609 may be a mixture of languages and this 0:38:12.229,0:38:16.789 happens in a lot of places outside 0:38:13.609,0:38:18.199 Europe and even in Europe as well I know 0:38:16.789,0:38:20.660 people in in the Republic of Macedonia 0:38:18.199,0:38:23.539 who who just go in a conversation 0:38:20.660,0:38:25.429 between five languages and they do it 0:38:23.539,0:38:27.199 because that's just the way they talk 0:38:25.429,0:38:28.939 where they live because they'll mix 0:38:27.199,0:38:30.619 Turkish in with Albanian with Macedonian 0:38:28.939,0:38:32.719 with Serbian and then they may know a 0:38:30.619,0:38:36.949 smattering of German and whatever else 0:38:32.719,0:38:37.999 and but it's it's it's that's why I 0:38:36.949,0:38:39.469 would say they were they are 0:38:37.999,0:38:41.749 multilingual for me and there are 0:38:39.469,0:38:45.019 different levels so I wouldn't make that 0:38:41.749,0:38:47.029 distinction myself and if you talk about 0:38:45.019,0:38:48.589 other languages like French Belanger 0:38:47.029,0:38:50.119 everyone's belonging French if they 0:38:48.589,0:38:53.509 speak about in three words of English 0:38:50.119,0:38:55.069 they belong who I mean I remember people 0:38:53.509,0:38:58.240 saying that all the time I teach younger 0:38:55.069,0:39:01.010 let go my OC yeah 0:38:58.240,0:39:05.320 okay so which one of your parents is 0:39:01.010,0:39:08.240 from is from the UK oh no more clearly : 0:39:05.320,0:39:12.680 okay so your you'll be lying you'll 0:39:08.240,0:39:14.030 that'd be lying you and it's nothing 0:39:12.680,0:39:16.850 nothing wrong with being belong in that 0:39:14.030,0:39:19.010 way but it's a it's not all in English 0:39:16.850,0:39:21.020 term bilingual it's not what we 0:39:19.010,0:39:23.150 understand we understand and assume that 0:39:21.020,0:39:25.160 it's a perfect bilingualism but actually 0:39:23.150,0:39:26.360 even in even in these countries where it 0:39:25.160,0:39:29.990 seems like a very good bilingualism 0:39:26.360,0:39:32.540 almost perfect it doesn't take long to 0:39:29.990,0:39:34.820 scratch the surface as a very competent 0:39:32.540,0:39:38.480 fluent speaker of a language to see that 0:39:34.820,0:39:40.670 it's not quite the reality even for the 0:39:38.480,0:39:42.890 people that seem very very very 0:39:40.670,0:39:45.380 bilingual there is often a stronger 0:39:42.890,0:39:47.210 language in areas and it will it will do 0:39:45.380,0:39:48.800 the same thing as happening in India or 0:39:47.210,0:39:50.990 African countries where where this is 0:39:48.800,0:39:54.320 the norm between tribes or between 0:39:50.990,0:39:56.270 regions of the country for just general 0:39:54.320,0:39:58.130 conversation but it will be be maybe a 0:39:56.270,0:40:01.850 high educated level because they've 0:39:58.130,0:40:06.800 studied maybe in all the languages okay 0:40:01.850,0:40:09.070 I'm open to other questions as well yeah 0:40:06.800,0:40:09.070 please 0:40:11.380,0:40:20.990 hello hello and you said that mmm 0:40:18.170,0:40:23.870 do you mind the second language was the 0:40:20.990,0:40:25.430 most difficult and then after that it 0:40:23.870,0:40:27.680 got easier 0:40:25.430,0:40:29.930 I actually thought perhaps the third 0:40:27.680,0:40:31.880 language was the challenge because this 0:40:29.930,0:40:34.570 is the point at which you consolidate 0:40:31.880,0:40:37.040 how to learn a language 0:40:34.570,0:40:39.740 yeah I know what you're talking about 0:40:37.040,0:40:43.160 and it's kind of went up when I said I 0:40:39.740,0:40:46.310 kind of went ish and sort of winced a 0:40:43.160,0:40:47.900 little bit because it's true that it's 0:40:46.310,0:40:50.600 the first is the hardest in terms of 0:40:47.900,0:40:52.160 that mental barrier of understanding how 0:40:50.600,0:40:53.990 to speak and communicate in a different 0:40:52.160,0:40:57.160 language and that's the one thing that 0:40:53.990,0:41:01.400 you do you do once in terms of that 0:40:57.160,0:41:02.960 mental flip but you're right and this 0:41:01.400,0:41:05.120 happened to me when I started off with 0:41:02.960,0:41:07.340 the Romance languages and that was my 0:41:05.120,0:41:08.960 first group of languages and when I 0:41:07.340,0:41:10.640 started learning Germanic languages I 0:41:08.960,0:41:11.440 started Swedish from my first Germanic 0:41:10.640,0:41:17.330 language 0:41:11.440,0:41:18.800 naturally so I I had Swedish at 0:41:17.330,0:41:19.550 university but I didn't have German at 0:41:18.800,0:41:24.310 school at all 0:41:19.550,0:41:27.920 I spoke no German until I was 22 and 0:41:24.310,0:41:30.320 never studied it but Swedish I found 0:41:27.920,0:41:32.200 more similar to English because of the 0:41:30.320,0:41:34.610 structure and the way it was flowing and 0:41:32.200,0:41:36.590 the the putting different article the 0:41:34.610,0:41:39.380 end was a bit weird but it was more or 0:41:36.590,0:41:41.869 less okay when I got to German and this 0:41:39.380,0:41:43.940 whole flippin Lee the sentence round and 0:41:41.869,0:41:45.170 putting verbs at the end of the sentence 0:41:43.940,0:41:47.869 yeah we do it in English as well 0:41:45.170,0:41:49.460 sometimes but in German the way of doing 0:41:47.869,0:41:52.700 it was a bit of a mind flip 0:41:49.460,0:41:54.470 and for me there was a real I felt I 0:41:52.700,0:41:56.960 would describe it as a physiological 0:41:54.470,0:42:00.200 change in my brain from the the Romance 0:41:56.960,0:42:01.490 language set to the Germanic and once 0:42:00.200,0:42:02.150 you go through that change there's no 0:42:01.490,0:42:05.270 going back 0:42:02.150,0:42:06.350 and so that's that's kind of what I'm 0:42:05.270,0:42:08.720 getting out with the first ones the 0:42:06.350,0:42:09.920 hardest because that going forwards and 0:42:08.720,0:42:11.869 then not being able to go back from 0:42:09.920,0:42:13.850 understanding that and and visualizing 0:42:11.869,0:42:15.470 speaking in a language that's why I say 0:42:13.850,0:42:17.720 it's the hardest but there's definitely 0:42:15.470,0:42:19.520 struggles with each new family because 0:42:17.720,0:42:23.359 there are new grow new ways of thinking 0:42:19.520,0:42:25.400 that that change completely and you have 0:42:23.359,0:42:26.660 to make that flip again interesting that 0:42:25.400,0:42:28.220 you should mention German I think 0:42:26.660,0:42:29.810 because that was actually my third 0:42:28.220,0:42:31.760 language it's sort of like tasting from 0:42:29.810,0:42:34.670 the tree of knowledge mm-hmm yeah yeah 0:42:31.760,0:42:43.490 exactly yep 0:42:34.670,0:42:46.040 thank you great presentation loved it 0:42:43.490,0:42:47.780 thank you I wanted to ask you I'm not 0:42:46.040,0:42:52.330 I'm definitely I'm Italian not a native 0:42:47.780,0:42:54.830 English speaker and not Anna but I've 0:42:52.330,0:42:56.660 lived there before I lived in Finland 0:42:54.830,0:43:00.140 and now I've been living in Lavinia and 0:42:56.660,0:43:02.090 I like this the concept of dominance 0:43:00.140,0:43:03.859 that I use English you know to dominate 0:43:02.090,0:43:05.840 conversation because both literally and 0:43:03.859,0:43:08.540 finish are never strong but I also found 0:43:05.840,0:43:11.150 out that Lithuanian and Finnish they're 0:43:08.540,0:43:13.310 not used to people speaking their 0:43:11.150,0:43:15.080 language as a second language so for 0:43:13.310,0:43:17.780 them it's very awkward and when I try to 0:43:15.080,0:43:19.820 learn Russian in Lithuanian for me was 0:43:17.780,0:43:22.130 way easier to practice Russian because 0:43:19.820,0:43:25.180 Russian as Italian I think they're used 0:43:22.130,0:43:27.819 maybe to see other people 0:43:25.180,0:43:30.790 struggling so themselves they're used to 0:43:27.819,0:43:32.349 adapt in a way to somebody speaking 0:43:30.790,0:43:36.040 their language as a second language so 0:43:32.349,0:43:38.530 my question is what can we how can we 0:43:36.040,0:43:40.450 help these societies maybe to open their 0:43:38.530,0:43:42.190 eyes and to realize that look there are 0:43:40.450,0:43:43.690 lots of people that would love to speak 0:43:42.190,0:43:49.210 your language and what can you do 0:43:43.690,0:43:51.809 natives - yeah this is really true as an 0:43:49.210,0:43:55.839 English language native we're used to a 0:43:51.809,0:43:57.099 huge wide variety of different accents 0:43:55.839,0:43:59.380 and people from different cultures 0:43:57.099,0:44:01.480 speaking our language so our air can 0:43:59.380,0:44:03.369 tune in and can adapt quite quickly and 0:44:01.480,0:44:04.480 a lot of other smaller countries where 0:44:03.369,0:44:06.460 they're not used to people learning the 0:44:04.480,0:44:08.589 language and I live in a country exactly 0:44:06.460,0:44:10.990 the same you know in the Republic of 0:44:08.589,0:44:13.240 Macedonia people didn't really study 0:44:10.990,0:44:15.490 Macedonian and it's it's there aren't 0:44:13.240,0:44:19.420 many that speak it well you know now 0:44:15.490,0:44:21.670 from abroad that come in and I remember 0:44:19.420,0:44:23.530 when I first went there and they that I 0:44:21.670,0:44:25.900 went to the school to try and learn 0:44:23.530,0:44:27.609 Macedonian that way to have proper 0:44:25.900,0:44:28.900 lessons and they went yeah we've we've 0:44:27.609,0:44:30.670 taught really successfully beyond the 0:44:28.900,0:44:33.040 basics we've got this American guys been 0:44:30.670,0:44:36.309 over two years he's fantastic but he 0:44:33.040,0:44:38.260 calls we don't stand a word he says but 0:44:36.309,0:44:42.069 it's because it's because of the accent 0:44:38.260,0:44:43.540 how you can combat that it's tough it's 0:44:42.069,0:44:45.220 this is one of the reasons why I wanted 0:44:43.540,0:44:46.450 to make this presentation because I know 0:44:45.220,0:44:49.240 it will go on YouTube but I know that 0:44:46.450,0:44:50.500 within the community people will see it 0:44:49.240,0:44:52.480 and they'll understand this struggle and 0:44:50.500,0:44:55.630 it's taking the time to be patient and 0:44:52.480,0:44:58.329 listening to it and sometimes I find it 0:44:55.630,0:45:00.549 quite hard to understand why a native 0:44:58.329,0:45:02.890 can't bend their ear a little bit to 0:45:00.549,0:45:07.329 understand but it's it does seem to be 0:45:02.890,0:45:08.829 something that's pre-programmed and how 0:45:07.329,0:45:11.500 you would do it I think is just with 0:45:08.829,0:45:13.990 with actually making people more aware 0:45:11.500,0:45:15.609 that this is okay to do and and and 0:45:13.990,0:45:17.440 getting more used to people learning the 0:45:15.609,0:45:20.049 minority languages and you as a 0:45:17.440,0:45:21.880 foreigner living in Lithuania speaking 0:45:20.049,0:45:23.710 to more people in Lithuanian so that 0:45:21.880,0:45:25.630 then because you are an ambassador for 0:45:23.710,0:45:27.400 foreigner speaking Lithuanian when you 0:45:25.630,0:45:29.799 learn any language you will then an 0:45:27.400,0:45:31.660 ambassador for a foreigner learning that 0:45:29.799,0:45:34.420 language and that's how you need to see 0:45:31.660,0:45:35.799 yourself so don't get scared when they 0:45:34.420,0:45:36.359 reply to you in English or in another 0:45:35.799,0:45:41.299 language 0:45:36.359,0:45:44.249 that you may speak just you know be 0:45:41.299,0:45:47.730 important as you say just carry on and 0:45:44.249,0:45:49.039 and and and you know and actually stand 0:45:47.730,0:45:55.589 by what you're trying to do and 0:45:49.039,0:45:57.239 represent represent so hi 0:45:55.589,0:45:59.670 Richard thank you for the go talk I 0:45:57.239,0:46:01.559 would like to dig into a little bit 0:45:59.670,0:46:03.269 about this distinction between Multi 0:46:01.559,0:46:05.130 multi lingual and polyglots 0:46:03.269,0:46:08.009 and we've had this conversation before I 0:46:05.130,0:46:11.609 self identify as a multi lingual I call 0:46:08.009,0:46:14.249 it accident or polyglots but I like it 0:46:11.609,0:46:18.150 but for the sake of clarity I would call 0:46:14.249,0:46:20.700 them circumstantial language or 0:46:18.150,0:46:24.180 circumstantial polyglot or intentional 0:46:20.700,0:46:27.480 polyglot and I find as a circumstantial 0:46:24.180,0:46:30.390 polyglot I would love to be intentional 0:46:27.480,0:46:32.609 polyglot and from from what I've heard 0:46:30.390,0:46:35.640 from many intentional polyglots how they 0:46:32.609,0:46:37.079 managed to become poly or how sorry how 0:46:35.640,0:46:38.759 intentional polyglots managed to become 0:46:37.079,0:46:41.309 in terms of public polyglots is they 0:46:38.759,0:46:42.839 check themselves into being 0:46:41.309,0:46:45.210 circumstantial polyglots you know they 0:46:42.839,0:46:47.940 create environment but they create this 0:46:45.210,0:46:49.259 as it includes the the things that you 0:46:47.940,0:46:51.029 mentioned yourself you know these are 0:46:49.259,0:46:54.359 all the different reasons people learn 0:46:51.029,0:46:55.950 languages so I think maybe the the 0:46:54.359,0:46:57.829 distinction really isn't that clear and 0:46:55.950,0:47:00.869 there's a lot of back and forth between 0:46:57.829,0:47:02.730 yeah the two domains oh I agree that 0:47:00.869,0:47:05.249 this isn't a clear distinction it's just 0:47:02.730,0:47:08.819 something I perceive and I wanted to 0:47:05.249,0:47:11.130 express in a public way because I this 0:47:08.819,0:47:12.869 is a shift in in my thinking 0:47:11.130,0:47:14.819 more recently actually a process in the 0:47:12.869,0:47:16.559 last year or so I started making this 0:47:14.819,0:47:19.079 distinction in my head and I think it 0:47:16.559,0:47:22.109 comes from people asking am i a polyglot 0:47:19.079,0:47:24.029 and probably yeah there's probably a 0:47:22.109,0:47:25.829 crossover it's like when people talk 0:47:24.029,0:47:28.859 about being as agnostic theist and 0:47:25.829,0:47:32.690 atheist you can actually be an agnostic 0:47:28.859,0:47:32.690 theist and an agnostic atheist 0:47:32.930,0:47:38.940 it's not it's not one of the other it's 0:47:36.299,0:47:41.430 it's all and I think probably this may 0:47:38.940,0:47:43.170 fit into that kind of category of you 0:47:41.430,0:47:47.160 could be a polyglot multilingual 0:47:43.170,0:47:48.239 polyglot why not you I said there's one 0:47:47.160,0:47:49.980 person from Luxembourg who would 0:47:48.239,0:47:52.530 probably I would define as that 0:47:49.980,0:47:55.830 a natural multilingual because of 0:47:52.530,0:47:59.400 environment because of heritage who then 0:47:55.830,0:47:59.880 also went on to learn other languages hi 0:47:59.400,0:48:02.700 Richard 0:47:59.880,0:48:04.140 hello this behind him thank you so much 0:48:02.700,0:48:07.260 for this presentation I wanted to ask 0:48:04.140,0:48:09.150 you since I'm a native English speaker 0:48:07.260,0:48:11.520 from America and there's several of us 0:48:09.150,0:48:14.700 in the room now which is great I think 0:48:11.520,0:48:17.160 it's amazing I was wondering if you have 0:48:14.700,0:48:19.470 experienced or if you'd like could share 0:48:17.160,0:48:21.930 with us any psychological boundaries or 0:48:19.470,0:48:23.490 like obstacles you faced being a native 0:48:21.930,0:48:26.940 English speaker because I know for 0:48:23.490,0:48:28.859 Americans there's a reputation around 0:48:26.940,0:48:30.510 the world for being either unable or 0:48:28.859,0:48:32.850 unwilling to learn other languages and 0:48:30.510,0:48:34.350 so it kind of comes to my mind every now 0:48:32.850,0:48:35.730 and then like while you're American so 0:48:34.350,0:48:37.440 you're supposed to have these problems 0:48:35.730,0:48:42.450 have you experienced anything like that 0:48:37.440,0:48:44.460 um yeah kind of I suffer the thing that 0:48:42.450,0:48:46.980 I think many of us native English 0:48:44.460,0:48:48.450 speakers suffer and that you take this 0:48:46.980,0:48:50.730 time and you make this effort to learn 0:48:48.450,0:48:52.650 languages but actually the picking the 0:48:50.730,0:48:55.470 language is very difficult because 0:48:52.650,0:48:58.740 there's not always a natural language to 0:48:55.470,0:49:00.990 pick and it doesn't matter how many you 0:48:58.740,0:49:02.190 pick you'll still learn a native English 0:49:00.990,0:49:04.530 speaker when you go to the country that 0:49:02.190,0:49:06.810 you don't speak the language of and you 0:49:04.530,0:49:09.960 still feel lazy and you still feel that 0:49:06.810,0:49:11.640 you're representing a stereotype and I 0:49:09.960,0:49:13.830 definitely feel that as well when I go 0:49:11.640,0:49:16.800 to like when I go to hungry and I just 0:49:13.830,0:49:19.350 know like you know a few words and I 0:49:16.800,0:49:21.119 feel are why can't I just become Gareth 0:49:19.350,0:49:22.170 but then you think like I can't do this 0:49:21.119,0:49:25.200 in every single country in the world 0:49:22.170,0:49:26.760 either that's to me one psychological 0:49:25.200,0:49:29.310 barrier potentially not what you were 0:49:26.760,0:49:30.660 getting out with your question but one 0:49:29.310,0:49:33.300 of the things that for me is is an 0:49:30.660,0:49:36.210 important thing sort of linked to that 0:49:33.300,0:49:36.780 idea in terms of people people's 0:49:36.210,0:49:39.630 reactions 0:49:36.780,0:49:41.400 yeah I've certainly had like in the 0:49:39.630,0:49:43.980 Netherlands when I lived there first six 0:49:41.400,0:49:46.530 months were very hard for speaking Dutch 0:49:43.980,0:49:49.410 because I didn't have the vocabulary to 0:49:46.530,0:49:50.820 say everything I wanted and I didn't 0:49:49.410,0:49:53.070 have maybe the right grammar and maybe 0:49:50.820,0:49:55.680 maxint was a bit off and I don't know I 0:49:53.070,0:49:58.140 mean I don't worry too much of accent to 0:49:55.680,0:50:01.349 be honest I like to go to be clear in my 0:49:58.140,0:50:05.420 pronunciation if I can and 0:50:01.349,0:50:08.539 but after the six-month period of people 0:50:05.420,0:50:13.170 constantly turning back to English and 0:50:08.539,0:50:15.839 it started to ease off but if ever I got 0:50:13.170,0:50:16.890 to a point where I went to buy tickets 0:50:15.839,0:50:19.470 or anything that I had to show my 0:50:16.890,0:50:22.229 passport to write my passport thing they 0:50:19.470,0:50:23.670 go oh yeah we're speaking in Dutch for 0:50:22.229,0:50:25.349 like half an hour about where I'm going 0:50:23.670,0:50:28.049 to fly to what I'm going to do and why 0:50:25.349,0:50:31.589 need it and they go oh show her you're 0:50:28.049,0:50:33.390 from United Kingdom yeah and they only 0:50:31.589,0:50:36.239 give manator long side leg needs the 0:50:33.390,0:50:37.739 hater and I can still speak Dutch 0:50:36.239,0:50:39.299 haven't forgot met just because I gave 0:50:37.739,0:50:41.190 you a passport and it says I'm British 0:50:39.299,0:50:46.319 does not mean I can no longer speak 0:50:41.190,0:50:48.239 Dutch and they went our sorry old so but 0:50:46.319,0:50:50.519 it's a natural thing that you get as a 0:50:48.239,0:50:52.559 native English speaker people like to 0:50:50.519,0:50:55.410 speak to native speakers it's just the 0:50:52.559,0:50:57.059 way it is I mean it's it's a rare thing 0:50:55.410,0:51:00.119 for a lot of people a lot of communities 0:50:57.059,0:51:01.859 so they go oh you're from the US or 0:51:00.119,0:51:02.940 you're from the UK you're from Australia 0:51:01.859,0:51:05.369 Wow we can practice English with 0:51:02.940,0:51:08.400 somebody who speaks it really well and 0:51:05.369,0:51:11.849 you know don't judge me on that could be 0:51:08.400,0:51:14.279 awful but it's it is an issue and I 0:51:11.849,0:51:16.529 think it's being polite and saying you 0:51:14.279,0:51:17.640 know yeah if you you know it's really 0:51:16.529,0:51:19.410 good you want to speak English it's 0:51:17.640,0:51:20.999 great you know what I really like your 0:51:19.410,0:51:22.950 language and I really like your culture 0:51:20.999,0:51:25.559 and I'd love to speak to you and 0:51:22.950,0:51:27.150 actually improve and most people are 0:51:25.559,0:51:28.799 actually quite nice when you say that 0:51:27.150,0:51:30.839 you know I've taken the time to come 0:51:28.799,0:51:32.579 here it's really nice if you could carry 0:51:30.839,0:51:35.369 on in your language that I can improve 0:51:32.579,0:51:37.890 and that's kind of what I do that's my 0:51:35.369,0:51:39.450 trick when I first go to a country even 0:51:37.890,0:51:43.079 if I know they speak better English than 0:51:39.450,0:51:44.219 I speak their language I don't think 0:51:43.079,0:51:46.680 that should be an issue I think it 0:51:44.219,0:51:47.489 should be a language etiquette thing and 0:51:46.680,0:51:49.499 that takes me back to the language 0:51:47.489,0:51:51.930 etiquette because I think that even if 0:51:49.499,0:51:56.279 people unaware of that to themselves you 0:51:51.930,0:51:57.299 can you know sort of passively show that 0:51:56.279,0:51:58.710 there's a language there to get here 0:51:57.299,0:52:01.499 this is the boundary I've come to your 0:51:58.710,0:52:03.960 country and and I've come for the for 0:52:01.499,0:52:06.869 the reason of learning your language so 0:52:03.960,0:52:11.309 therefore please do me that favor and 0:52:06.869,0:52:13.650 speak to me in your language hello hello 0:52:11.309,0:52:15.510 um this is relating to what you said 0:52:13.650,0:52:17.670 about language etiquette 0:52:15.510,0:52:20.390 one situation that always feels really 0:52:17.670,0:52:23.100 awkward to me is being on an airplane 0:52:20.390,0:52:25.800 especially if it's like a Japanese or 0:52:23.100,0:52:28.380 Chinese airline and everybody around me 0:52:25.800,0:52:30.240 is Asian and so of course the flight 0:52:28.380,0:52:33.150 attendants take one look at my face and 0:52:30.240,0:52:34.590 they speak to me in English this always 0:52:33.150,0:52:36.300 makes me feel just really awkward 0:52:34.590,0:52:38.370 because I don't want to be like you know 0:52:36.300,0:52:40.500 the foreigner on the plane 0:52:38.370,0:52:44.370 who needs to be spoken to in English and 0:52:40.500,0:52:47.670 my ex my instinct is to reply to them in 0:52:44.370,0:52:49.470 their language but at the same time I 0:52:47.670,0:52:51.360 don't want to make this person feel bad 0:52:49.470,0:52:52.980 you know feel like maybe their English 0:52:51.360,0:52:55.200 isn't good enough and I know you know 0:52:52.980,0:52:57.270 they're only doing their job it's only 0:52:55.200,0:52:59.190 natural for them to think that you know 0:52:57.270,0:53:02.550 I would prefer to speak English and so 0:52:59.190,0:53:04.580 I'm just wondering if you have any sort 0:53:02.550,0:53:07.410 of protocol for this type of situation 0:53:04.580,0:53:08.820 okay a good question I think of the very 0:53:07.410,0:53:10.080 short interactions and you know that 0:53:08.820,0:53:12.480 it's not going to be a comic become a 0:53:10.080,0:53:15.090 conversation depending on how confident 0:53:12.480,0:53:17.670 you feel or how uneasy you feel about 0:53:15.090,0:53:20.640 the situation you could do one of two 0:53:17.670,0:53:22.410 things just say okay I'm just going to 0:53:20.640,0:53:22.980 say something back in English and be 0:53:22.410,0:53:27.000 done with it 0:53:22.980,0:53:29.460 or you could say in English and then say 0:53:27.000,0:53:31.710 something nice like thank you or just a 0:53:29.460,0:53:34.800 couple of words in that language after 0:53:31.710,0:53:35.880 the English to show that you have an 0:53:34.800,0:53:39.900 awareness of their culture in their 0:53:35.880,0:53:42.090 language and that night spark and a 0:53:39.900,0:53:44.100 reaction in return that they say oh 0:53:42.090,0:53:46.350 you've learned some some Japanese or 0:53:44.100,0:53:48.450 you've learned some Chinese and that's 0:53:46.350,0:53:50.130 really nice and then you go then you say 0:53:48.450,0:53:51.870 oh yeah I studied it over Beauvoir and 0:53:50.130,0:53:53.820 they may it may spark a tiny 0:53:51.870,0:53:56.460 conversation in those situations it's 0:53:53.820,0:53:58.650 unlikely to spark a huge dialogue 0:53:56.460,0:53:59.970 because it's it's a plane ride right and 0:53:58.650,0:54:01.260 they've got a job to do and they're 0:53:59.970,0:54:03.450 doing their job to the best of their 0:54:01.260,0:54:05.670 ability and if they went up to some 0:54:03.450,0:54:09.120 every every every person on the plane 0:54:05.670,0:54:10.680 white who was white or or black and just 0:54:09.120,0:54:13.440 randomly spoke to them in Chinese or 0:54:10.680,0:54:15.170 Japanese they probably make more enemies 0:54:13.440,0:54:18.630 than friends 0:54:15.170,0:54:20.760 do you like what the hell you know and 0:54:18.630,0:54:23.160 it is the language of the sky English is 0:54:20.760,0:54:25.350 used in the sky so they're trained to 0:54:23.160,0:54:27.390 make the announcements in English so 0:54:25.350,0:54:28.280 there's kind of that mindset going on in 0:54:27.390,0:54:33.830 that space 0:54:28.280,0:54:35.660 pick environment but that's what I yeah 0:54:33.830,0:54:39.260 but that's not I mean it's a natural 0:54:35.660,0:54:40.430 thing to do right I mean were the only 0:54:39.260,0:54:42.680 sort of language is where you wouldn't 0:54:40.430,0:54:45.140 do that as English because anyone can be 0:54:42.680,0:54:47.510 British anyone can be American 0:54:45.140,0:54:50.450 it doesn't really depend on your outward 0:54:47.510,0:54:53.660 appearance because we're all mixed right 0:54:50.450,0:54:57.170 but but how many white Japanese people 0:54:53.660,0:55:00.470 do you see you just don't you just don't 0:54:57.170,0:55:01.880 come across them it's it's not it's not 0:55:00.470,0:55:06.020 them yeah there we go got one in the 0:55:01.880,0:55:09.890 back there but you you don't get that 0:55:06.020,0:55:11.330 many and and so it's it's fair it's fair 0:55:09.890,0:55:14.090 enough today I mean I get that every day 0:55:11.330,0:55:16.060 pretty much in the Balkans people look 0:55:14.090,0:55:19.010 at me and I'm too white to be Balkan I 0:55:16.060,0:55:21.500 am I mean you know it's like I went 0:55:19.010,0:55:23.330 round with and I'm sure Danny won't mind 0:55:21.500,0:55:24.800 me saying this but I went round Skokie 0:55:23.330,0:55:28.340 with Danny Ferguson and Danny Ferguson 0:55:24.800,0:55:30.020 as as black as I am white and and we 0:55:28.340,0:55:33.770 went round and it was like the circus 0:55:30.020,0:55:35.750 had come to town ha ha ha everyone's 0:55:33.770,0:55:39.980 heads were turning who are these people 0:55:35.750,0:55:41.870 and then you know we started speaking in 0:55:39.980,0:55:46.190 Serbian which freaked them out even more 0:55:41.870,0:55:49.520 ha ha these policemen went speaking 0:55:46.190,0:55:53.810 Serbian what's going on the world's gone 0:55:49.520,0:55:56.210 crazy but it was late time's up returned 0:55:53.810,0:55:59.510 yeah sorry yeah we have to finish oh 0:55:56.210,0:56:02.290 sorry ok I can't see where you are okay 0:55:59.510,0:56:02.290 okay 0:56:04.690,0:56:07.900 thank you